Random Orbital Sander Pad Replacement - WoodWorkWeb
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- If you own a random orbital sander like a Porter-Cable, Bosch, DeWalt, Craftsman, Milwaukee, Makita or others, at some point you probably WILL need to replace the bottom pad because the little hooks that hold the sandpaper discs will begin to fail. Changing the pad is easy, as is cleaning up and refurbishing your sander so it will give you years more of dedicated service.
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My Bosch sander is about 25 years old, and they still sell the exact same model number (but its exterior plastic is entirely different now), and they still use the same pads. My pad didn't lose its hooks, but it just crumbled apart from old age. There seems to be two kinds of replacement: soft and hard.
A few years ago, I had to replace the pad on my sander. I made some pointed studs that would slip nicely into the dust collection holes on the old pad and epoxied them in place. Now I buy my paper from my local auto body & paint store (a substantial $$ saving) and use my homemade hole punch on the solid discs ... Works great and saves $$$.
Hi Dave, thanks for the note, good to know that. I will do the same next time. I also checked with the Bosch Rep on replacement filters, and it looks like they are available, but you have to buy the whole thing, apparently you can't just replace the inside filter because it is fused (glued) to the outer shell. And with a list price of something like $69 ... I think I will continue to clean mine, just like you suggest :)
Thanks again ... great tip !!
Colin
The dust collector is supposed to be clipped open, then you just knock the cover against the other side a couple of times. Takes like 5 seconds, and I do it every 15-30 minutes of sanding to keep the sanding performance good. Doesn't take even a minute.
One thing I'd recommend is NEVER put it down on the pad without a sandpaper attached. Even if the paper is badly worn, I never take it off unless I'm replacing it with a new one.
Oh ... there is is on your site for all of us to view
Thanks again Taylor ...
Hi Colin, Thanks for posting the clip.
I have a Bosch sander which looks very similar to yours. When cleaning the filter I found that by removing it from the machine then taking the plastic plate from the bottom side of it off I could get the filter absolutely clean. It works a treat mate. Give it a go.
Dave
That is an interesting problem that happened with yours, I had not heard of that before. Thanks for sharing that, I'm sure there will be others with the same problem, so nice to know what the fix is :)
THANK YOU FOR YOUR DETAILED AND CLEAR EXPLANATION
I had to do that with mine. The screw holes rounded out and cracked .A new pad solved the problem.
Thanks Colin
Go Colin Go !!!
You can do mine next.
Great vid and thanks.
Derek
Hi. I’m having a hard time removing the screw for the backing pad. Did u say there’s a clip to hold the pad?
Same here I was curious if some were possible anticlockwise tightening
MyMy pad and break assemble came loose while I was sanding, and I lost one of the three screws holding the pad in place. Found them at Lowe's....Stainless Steel, Pan Phillips Machine Screws, 8-32 x 3/4. Worked perfect! Couldn't find these anywhere on the web and Dewalt doesn't offer them as well.
Excellent just what needed!
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE
Hi Colin,.
You can also replace the inner part of the filter (folding filter), because this area of the filter pores close up after some time by resin particles. Tapping is not sufficient. Change doesn't cost much and improves the machines and filter performance!
A very concise and helpful video... Thank you.
John Anthony West thanks for commenting John
Hi Colin
On the dust box, the lid is removable it enables access to the baffles for more efficient cleaning..
With my dust box I removed the insides, drilled a hole in the rear and glued a pvc pipe that fits my vacuum cleaner hose, no dust in the air, I don't have to clean the dust box and most of all I don't breath all that dust. I did this some years ago when I put some walls up and had to sand the plaster, my respirator was getting clogged with that fine dust only after a few minutes of sanding.
Great instruction
Thank you.
Hi Taylor, thanks for the note. I can't remember what I pay but I usually purchase them by the box of 100 for around $20 - $25 if my memory is right, but I would love to know what you do, email me the link if you can.
Thanks again for the now
Colin
I just replaced the pad on my trusty old Bosch 3283 DVS. Now, it seems like it's off balance when sanding. It's fine and smooth without the sandpaper on, but once I start to sand, it's out of balance. I noticed the small "dogs" on the sander which need to line up with the holes in the pad, and I made sure to line those up. Any ideas why off balance now? Thanks. Nice video, BTW.
Hi Colin
Please Do a video on how to make a wooden pad without the original pad,Because i saw a video on how to make a template but i dont have the original pad Thanks
I've done a new pad sometime ago. Those pads are not cheap and don’t last long, two pads you might as well get a new sander. I think changing pads often will ware it out faster so it might be more economical just have a few sanders with different grids and not bother to change it that often. When the pad wares out and become useless, I use hot glue and that eems to work fine if you don't need to change the paper then reglue again.
Use a blow gun to clean it, including the inside of the motor to reduce heat buildup.
Thanks for all the tips ... will put them to good use
Do you need to lubricate the rubber Friction Ring? AFAIK it was lubed by something when new
Sure, send it on through :) ... actually, I must say I enjoyed doing this. I think there is something about re-furbing a tool, and when you see it working like it was when it was new. I can't say that about everything, but this one was quick and easy.
Make sure you send enough for return postage ;)
Colin
Where do you get the pads? Thanks
hi colin I am not to sure what you pay for Velcro backed sandpaper in the states but in nz the papers only come precut and are very expensive. I make my own for less than 10% of what I would pay here in nz. I have a video explaining the process on my site here.
My belief and also from seeing many of these videos is that its always a Bosch needing a new backer pad and is a Bosch problem as I don't have issues with any of my other sanders! Note the difference between Bosch's backer pads ( "Hook" system) and say DeWalt s backer pad ??
I liked your solution, but do not know where I can find such gripping material
Random Orbital Sander Pad Replacement
Colin, when you were describing removing the blue locking glue you sound disappeared for a second. Are you suggesting to replace the blue locking glue with the same or did you recommend an alternate solution. Thanks.
Colin, disregard. I watched the video to the end, as I should have, and lo and behold you did reuse the loctite. Thanks again. Sorry for the dumb question.
Great video. I didn't realise the hooks broke off I assumed they got flattend. I generally use pad savers ontop of the backing pad. They cost around £5 for Mirka ones in the Uk so definately worth the money as to replace my 125mm Makita machines cost me £25 each per backing pad!!! ( These are the cheapest I can find in the Uk.) So when choosing an orbital sander now I first check out to see how much the backing pads are before purchasing sanders, as some machines backing pads cost a lot more money to replace compared to others...So take note when purchasing!!!
Hey Andrew ....so excellent points, thanks for taking the time, and especially for the tip on the pad savers ... honestly, I had never heard of them before (I guess I must have grown up on Mars??) ... but looked them up and they seem like a great device. I cannot recall ever seeing anything like this hear in North America ... thanks again, am going to try and source these.
Colin
WoodWorkWeb No probs Colin. I only came across them about a year ago when I realised I was spending a hell of a lot on new backing pads. I am sure you can pick them up your neck of the woods if not give me a shout and will point you in the right direction and can get some shipped over. Ps For professional hard usage I use zirconium hook and loop discs. I got advised they will clog but they work sooooo much better than alu oxide on wood. Also Abranet although good for dustless sanding are quite poor on durabilty so gave up on them very quickly . Part cermamic-alu oxide discs work well on wood too but once you go zirconium you will never look back!!! Cheers!!!
Hi. Can you help, please? I have a Black & Decker random orbital sander (about 8 yrs old) and the central allan screw holding the sanding disc to the spindle came loose and the black velcro pad fell off. I tried to re-mount the pad & re-tighten the allan screw only to find that the boss into which the screw was secured just spun around with no visible means of holding it. This boss is independant of the motor shaft as it is mounted in an free-turning bearing, so just holding the shaft still by the fan-disc has absolutely no effect. I have now stripped down the sander and removed the motor for closer inspection, but still there seems to be no visible way that you can lock the freely spinning boss on the motor shaft. There are 2 flats on the boss where it looks as though it could be held in some way, but the clearances are so tight there is no way that you can get even a 2mm thick spanner (made from steel plate) in there to hold the boss still whilst you tighten the allan screw. I fell sure that this is a very common problem for owners of this type of sander. Please help if you can! Thank you.
enjoyed the review and would have liked to know more about the dust collection
Roberto Ayala Thank you for your comments and suggestions ... tough sometime to make those decisions on what to cover and what to make a different video of another time, but feedback always welcome :)
I need a replacement backing pad for a Bosch 1295 dvs sander...where can I get it in the daytona beach area ans how do I replace it?
J L Schroeder Not sure where in your area, but if you have a Rockler or Woodcraft store around, I would try there first of all. The big box home reno stores will likely not stock an item like this. I have not replaced that exact unit, but it looks similar to the one I replaced in this video ...
I destroyed my pad by using the edge near a joint and the material melted while using out while in temp of 31centigade and hence pad flies off and does not stick
Thank you sir for your video
Sir please tell us the new ideas for how to make orbital sander at home.
Thanks for watching!
good coverage tx
+WoodWorkWeb Hi my name is Marshall I have a few questions for you regarding the Bosch Orbital Sander I have the same sander as in the video. My First question is this in 4:34 how does the friction ring attach to the sander? See I took my sander apart to blow dust it, due to build up of sand particles, not sure if that was such a great idea. But it is clean now, the only problem is I don't know how to get the Friction ring back on, how do I do that? Second question is where did you get the thread locking fluid for the screw that goes in the middle hole of the Sander pad? Last question why put the micro filter system upside down? Please be sure to get back to me. Thanks.
The pad is held onto the sander by the screw.
The thread lock is LocTite. You can get it at Home Depot, auto parts store, Amazon or hardware store.
Put the filter on exhaust ports down to protect your eyes and lungs. Small particles of dust proliferate from the high speed of the disk.
In this video a five hole disk was put on an 8 hole pad. this severely reduces the dust removal ability. When I bought this sander I happened to have many boxes of five hole disks from my old sander. I wonder if Ryobi offers a five hole pad.
G Black To be honest, I haven't really noticed much, if any difference with my sander.
I'm trying to picture someone who's used their sander enough that the hook & loop is worn out, yet they've never ever cleaned the dust out of the dust bag. Do these people exist?
Hey, I just noticed that the splash music is the Halo theme, first few seconds. :)
Hi Mark, Yes someone else mentioned that too, we actually picked the lead in off one of the Royalty Free sites, but will need to check it out ... thanks for the note buddy :)
Colin
Good vid for the clueless like myself.
Hey ... we all have to start somewhere :)
Great to have you with us
Colin
WoodWorkWeb Thanks. I'm trying to strip paint of my deck and porch and it's a real pain in the ass. Chemicals seem to be inconsistent. Orbital sanding and scraping is slow and tedious. I don't think there is a simple way to do it without expensive equipment?
MassFisher I don't envy you. I have not found an easy way of stripping paint and it all seems to be different, some paints require one method, others require a different method ... all I can do is offer my best wishes to you :-)
Why make things easy when you can make them hard . EXAMPLE above !!!!!!!! .
What happens to me is I lift it up for a second and it spins really fast and then I have a sandpaper Frisbee. If you have a sander that does these things, use them in a garage that does not have your car or truck in it. I never had one fly off and scratch my car but I know it could if I don't stay in the next garage. The only other bad thing that those sanders might do when they spin like that is give you a nasty sandpaper cut. One nicked me but thankfully it wasn't that bad, it still hurts like a son of a bitch. Next time I might not be so lucky.
disregard. I thought you were replacing the velcro portion.
You talk to much and waste peoples time just get tobrhe point