GORDON SLAMS VAR! | IS EDDIE RUTHLESS ENOUGH?
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- Gordon Slams VAR! | Is Eddie Ruthless Enough?
Welcome back to Toon Review, your ultimate destination for all things Newcastle United! In today's video, we dive deep into the aftermath of a hugely disappointing result at Old Trafford. The match was filled with controversy and crucial moments that could have changed the outcome.
In a candid post-match interview, Anthony Gordon didn't hold back his frustrations, slamming the VAR decision that denied us a crucial penalty. We analyse the incident and discuss whether the officials got it right.
But that's not all! Paul raises a critical question about our manager, Eddie Howe. Is Eddie ruthless enough to lead Newcastle United to elite status? We examine his managerial style, decision-making process, and whether he has what it takes to bring consistent success to the Magpies.
Join the conversation in the comments below! Do you agree with Anthony Gordon's take on the VAR decision? And what are your thoughts on Eddie Howe's ruthlessness as a manager? Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe for more in-depth Newcastle United content!
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Big respect to Gordon explained it perfectly
he still decided to stick up for it . even after loosing a penality
If that was at the other end Man United gets a penalty
Emmm maybe watch the burnley game. One of the reasons we are out of the top 6 race was cause we dropped pts in that game. 2 clear pens on Garnacho wasn’t given and wasn’t checked
True story,big six bias
.....and everyone in football knows it!
@mybaldmanagereth9826 Two wrongs can't make a right, one doesn't justify the other
@@mybaldmanagereth9826yet everysingle game in recent memory when we play you, you always get a dodgy decision against us.
I would like Paul to have a sit down with Eddy and ask all the relevant questions that he has highlighted
I think the officials who were on the VAR should come on camera and explain their decision on the Gordon incident, corrupt bastards. If that was Manure it would a definite penalty and sending off. There should be an ex pro footballer sitting in VAR.
The team bottle the important games, Paul.
League Cup Final
Chelsea Q/F
AC Milan at home
Brighton at home
Manure away.
Crunch games where results determine whether or not we progress…
We don’t win!
Don't forget Leicester at home last season, where a win would've moved us ABOVE Man Utd last season, but couldn't get the win.
We are worse than Spurs. People make fun of them but we are much much much worse. History of failure and bottling.
Crikey that has been the culture since 1969.
Our midfield has been non existent for a while now , every team are passing straight through us time and time again
It's called a CDM something the Manager doesn't believe in.
Longstaff offers nothing in the midfield….like playing with 10 men😡
I've said that for years we can't finish the last hurdle we always fall down
This game hurt so much that I picked up an ice cream and eated it alone in the bed (I watch de toon from Romania and it was late night)
I’m still pissed off 😡😡😡😡
I agree, when I heard him saying he hates disappointing players, it all became clear to me. He is not an elite coach, he suits a team like Crystal Palace whose only goal is to remain in the Premier League and nothing else.
Last nights game was a clear indication for a few things. Firstly, there are players here who are simply not good enough especially when we have to play under pressure. Dubravka, Murphy, Longstaff, Wilson and Almiron simply need to move on for next season. Also, I don’t think Howe is the right man to take us to the next level. When so much is at stake, we should have fielded our best 11 from the start. Man U were there for the taking and we just didn’t capitalise on that. Such a shame.
There are many pretenders in that squad and the coach is way too attached to many of them. Therein lies the biggest obstacle for us to reach the next level.
Spot on..I want Howe to be given a chance next season but the owners will act quickly if we mess up before Christmas
eddy howe is the most frustrating manager iv,e known ....his press conferences are as clear as mud ..and his favouritism of out of form players has really pissed me off this season ..last night was a prime example ,why oh why will he not pick his best and strongest team ..fuck upsetting players if you are not good enough you do not get in the team ..what about upsetting the fans ..we are the ones who pay the money ,,iv,e spent thousands upon thousands over a 57 yes 57 year period of seeing us win fuck all apart from the fairs cup and texaco cup ..as for var don,t get me started ..i,m sick of winning nowt ...
I’m sick to death of Eddie. He’s done well for the club no doubt and obviously a nice guy but he’s so far out of his his depth it’s unbelievable, so frustrating… a decent manager we finish 4th this season
@@tomruddell9099 frustrating being the word ..he,s not going to change ..li think we agree he has gone as far as he can ..pif will not put up with him much longer ,for me i love eddy but time for change..we deserve better as long suffering fans ..
Who the he'll are you to judge a manager who has clearly done wonders for us, get back on football manager you melt
@@cameronnicholson1980 wow melt ..i,ve an opinion just like anybody else ..but i don,t call people names ..you melt
Something isnt right at the club in my opinion, They dont seem to have the same togetherness as before, And why is Pope not back in goal if he's fit? Dubs is crap.
Think you have a point here actually, where's the pressing and the organisation we had before.
@@Hm32271well there’s no pressing cause we can’t afford to have more injuries.
Injuries when there was 2 games left, wise up man, our bench was strong last night, we had subs to replace players who get injured and Eddie should have changed things up at half time.
I know it has been mentioned, but ask Rugby officials how they do theirs as they make far more unbiased decisions, quicker. The referee gets to see all camera angles, not just the one the VAR want the ref to see!
It does seem to be better handled in rugby, but so is refereeing in general not least because if players argue, the ref simply walks ten yards forward and they take the kick from there ! But don’t kid your self that it’s quicker because it certainly isn’t and the time they take for endless replays from different angles, wouldn’t be acceptable in top level football. Rugby is a stop start game with stoppages for scrums, line outs etc. so taking a long time to arrive at a decision fits into the natural rhythm of the game. Football is different.
Spot on Paul. Goldbridge after looking at it again said it was a penalty as he was fouled before the tackle and VAR should have called it out. Wayne Rooney MU through and through said during the match said it was a clear penalty. I would not trust the people doing the review as a lot have done a poor job. If a ref or person makes a mistake they are taken out of a game as an official in other sports they are suspended or even demoted. I know that cricket umpires have been removed from international panels for errors in the past and have had to work their way back. May be we do the same in football they lose their UEFA creditation or ability to referee PL games as well as needing retraining. They then have to prove they have improved to get that back and it has to be over the rest of the season not just a couple of games. Maybe with this things will start to improve as being dropped for a game or two is not a strict enough sanction. This could be done as an interim measure but then have a separate VAR officials trained and take over from the refs long term totally independant from refs and linesman association bodies. This would prevent any Iam not going to critise another ref mentality which could be influencing some of these decisions. For me Eddie now has to lay down the law with underperforming players and be rutherless basically get them in one on one and basically say their future at the club is on the line if we dont get Europe. Several players have had more bad games than good and he needs to tell them this and drop them where we can. For me we will see what happens with Brentford and then I will form an opinion but its 50:50 for me whether Eddie can be ruthless enough. Players have to go in the summer as we need to get more in with a better mentality who have the desire in the big games
You make some very good points about big game mentality. In midfield, Bruno has it, but he's always having to run the show by himself. Longstaff is a passenger and is simply not good enough. Why bring off Murphy when he delivers crosses so well, and put on the clockwork mouse that is Miggy? So Eddie, let's have a real statement of intent in the summer and get rid of players that are simply not good enough...
This is why I question Eddie to be a top level manager,his loyalty to certain players, I get the feeling he does want anyone to go in the summer,it will break his heart if he has too😢
Especially Wilson 😂
agree 100%
Coach not Manager.
It's working perfectly for those it was intended to benefit imo. By corrupt, greedy, bastards, I once would've said that it's there to benefit everyone but now it's obvious that it isn't. I agree with what Anthony said too, and if that had been a ManUre player in the same situation he was, it would've been given, absolutely no doubt about it. This loss hurts mate. Everyone is fuming at losing to that team. Definitely the worst in premier league history. Straight answer, no, Eddie is not ruthless enough imo Paul. Same old same old. 😡
Stone wall pen fact! I’m
In Melbourne getting up at 5am to watch and I knew that was gonna be given! Couldn’t believe when it wasn’t!
I just can't say enough good things about Anthony Gordon ❤so lucky 🍀 to have him he's my favourite player of all time ❤
The squad is top 8 at best after years of neglect, we are where we should be #growing
A lack of big game mentality aka 'Bottlers'... its been like this as long as I can remember... I'm convinced we're cursed
Dubravka will probably play at Brentford as well
No elite manager, starts that 11 last night. They just don't. Simple.
Pep has only once named an unchanged team all season. Once.. tells you all you need to know.
Our passing game has been pretty terrible for the majority of the season. We never treat the ball with care.
I think that’s why Sandro was brought in, and hopefully he can help next season.
You're spot on with everything you said. 💯👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Also a Howe fan but and agree 100% with Paul. Great manager but there is something lacking that we need to get to the next level. Can Howe evolve? Last night should’ve been an all in situation but it didn’t look that way from either manager decisions or from a number of the players.
We are jinxed club, been supporting for over 40 years and we have always been like this. No idea why or what we can do about it.
Rudd hullit had the club excorsized by a priest.
So right !!! NUFC never win big games . God knows why !!
Over fifty years supporting them echo the words you say 👍
@@michaelparsons3221yeah : like Luton or Forest.
Us older fans just know.
Its meant to be a tool to improve the game, not a tool to influence the game and dictate a certain outcome. We need to hear the conversation between ref and VAR in real time and they should explain their decision life over the mic!
Alreet Paul, as ever you’re right on everything. Eddie is a very good manager, but doesn’t fall into that “elite” & I really don’t think he will ever have that ruthless side in him. Regarding VAR, why can’t the English get coached by the Europeans, or better still, pay & get the European VAR’s over here & do the job right, ohh & still mad from last night. 🤙🏻
Paul I wish you were asking these questions at the press conference!
Said for a while that I think a 3rd party company should be hired to operate VAR, any questionable decision just advise the referee to go to the monitor. Last night made no sense as to why VAR didn't do that - but if VAR stays so do the current set of officials and there in lies the issue.
It was a clear penalty. Clear contact from behind and didn't get ball. Ripped his sock and scraped his achilies. Should have been a yellow at least aswell and he got booked later on which would have seen him walk!
The top managers are forever adapting and not sticking rigidly to things. The 4-3-3 worked very well last season but all the opposition has figured us out this season. Eddie is not learning at all especially on team selection which has been fairly bad all season. Reactionary again last night when he had a bench to institute a change at halftime oh no let’s just wait until we got behind again it’s been same story all season all subs made in first half of games by us was made due to injury’s only for injury’s we would never have seen miley tino and hall cause he doesn’t trust young players.
i totally agree! VAR has got its own pros and cons...if the penalty was given and we scored it would have changed the picture of the game and most probably the outcome but the point of fighting for a VAR decision to get us out of jail shouldnt be for what we should look and expect for from our team. we have a strong team who can beat anyone, we should be proud where we are considering the mountain we had to climb throughtout the entire season, more games and so many injuries! i wish for a strong display against brentford and win that in style!
“Get rid of it or get better. It’s that simple” … wow nailed it in one
Good summary vid as usual,Paul(TTR) : same as last year's Carabao Cup final,we bottled it again,and saved ETH's job for another year! 🙄
Gordon's VAR opinions are spot on,but I am unsure (now) about EH's status,as my patience is wearing thin now and yes,you are correct about 'big game mentality' !
There's no excuse for a mistake. When you have a recording in front of you that you can slow down. I'd fine the VAR ref for mistakes. It will sharp get better
You had me at "incompetent mofos", Paul. ❤😂
It's not just big games though. Everton, Luton, Nottingham forest, crystal palace, Brighton. We haven't turned up at all. I don't know where this mentality comes from that we should just roll teams over. We are not there yet and I'm sorry to say we will never be with Eddie
The mentality in our squad away from home is shocking absolutely piss poor Eddie needs to sort that out or he won’t be in a job next season.
I love Eddie Howe he’s been brilliant for us but he can’t seem to motivate the players properly for big games, games that are consequential
I think in the end Eddie will get it right, i think the value from his football atm is something which is worth keeping even that he makes mistakes in team selection etc. Also, we notice the he is "learning on the job". Remember that also Alex Ferguson wasnt perfect from day1. I would rather keep him than bring in some "world class" manager like Conte that will be ruthless but at the same time will bore us to death with his football.
Regarding yesterday I agree with you completely. Team selection was not good enough.
Ur right paul I'm sick of it!!!! Be proactive, not reactive
I am with you from an outsiders view as an Arsenal fan. Other leagues have figured out VAR but for some reason this league is not using it correctly. I say keep it and have either some of those refs ref our league or have whoever runs VAR now learn how to better use it. Getting rid of it now makes no sense.
Ruthless no, how can Eddie play long staff or Anderson when J7 is fit? Mind boggles
Totally agree paul every word you said is spot on 👍
Its a lack of belief in themselves as a team. t's not knowing when the next mistake is going to be made and the inability to step on the throat of the opposition and finish them.
I just got to admit you nailed it when saying Howe is not ruthless enough. Everybody and their dog has been crying out for Longstaff to be dropped. I think Howe is too nice. He's done great up to a point. Has his head been turned about England job. We need someone with more a winning mentality in big games.
can't believe we didn't get anything from it Eddie takes to long for the subs
People hate VAR because it has no accountability . FA loves that . People see Villa. Chelsea and Everton .and think we have all this cash and can't even win these games we must win .
I was actually thinking last night about the offside rule - and how our Deaf Fans were enjoying the match a few weeks ago. Why don't we just put a couple of sensors in the kit (one in the shirt and one on the shorts - for example - you could even do it in the boots), which instantly can tell the system where they are. It's not difficult - I use the same type of (transponders) at work! Simple!
Anthony is 101% spot on about VAR. I also like the principle, but get it better (much better) or scrap. Brill player, and a really sharp mind.
Regarding VAR, this has been mentioned before to wire up the officials like they do in rugby,so fans hear what's going on.the offside gadget is coming in for next season
We get the penalty award we should have had and it's a different game, also we didn't take some good chances that's the players fault but i do agree if pope was in goal he saves manures 3rd goal 🤨
Yeah, but look who was running VAR last night! Mr. A Ferguson of Glasgow, Mr. B Robson of Chester Le Street, and Mrs S. Bruce of Corbridge! How did it work so well in Russia in 2018 - when it has worked so badly since it was introduced here?
Well said wor Anthony very measured response he is a smart lad
Same old story sadly, they've got the ref and the officials in their pockets. I was personally furious the penalty wasn't given,and strangely nothing from the useless VAR.The game's definitely corrupt as hell sadly. :(
100% mate
We all give everything and give up everything to support our beloved team ..A PITTY SOME OF THOSE PLAYERS DONT FEEL THE SAME ..SHAME ON YOU
I think that’s a bit harsh
Shame my arse. Boys have done well this year under total fuckery.
Need to shift a few first team and fringe players on ,we all know who but cant see us getting hardly anything for them or anyone wanting them so think we are gonna be stuck with them unfortunately
Eddie has worked wonders with the team he inherited and most are still there. Every player that’s come in has improved. Injuries have crippled the team all season. The team needs to be upgraded much more but financial rules require patience and revenue development. If he gets the players he’ll get the results I believe.
Paul, its regard VAR. I've said from the start, referees should not be involved in VAR decisions. You have a referee on the pitch to be advised by VAR whether or not he's made the correct on field decision. Ex pro footballers could be a smart idea. But something has to be done. It proves that the standard of VAR officials is not good enough!!!!
I’m all for Eddie Howe but some of his team selections have been questionable at best last nights was woeful
I'd love to hear an explanation from the EPL & FA how VAR here is not working like EVERYWHERE else.
100% agree with you Paul. If you want to become a top team
100% agree Paul. To be a top team you have to be ruthless if you want to win something. The manager has to play the best team. If that involves upsetting a player so be it!!!
Hi Paul, I shared your video from last night. You did not mention the VAR officials' penalty decision unless I missed it I did in my video I am making this comment as I already shared your video where I mentioned you and Adam Pearson video, I was gutted after the game even though I couldn't watch the game apart from CZcams highlights
The first part of the video was about the penalty incident.
@TheToonReview hi Paul did you mention it on your live podcast while watching the game on silent, I ask because I watch Adam Pearson video from Old Trafford then your video from last night which I shared to my Facebook, I watched it again to check it , I was watch Baz last night while I was doing a live TV on mute
He got some of the same criticism at Bournemouth.. Some of their fan base said he was reluctant to drop some of the big name players for the sake of the club.... Wether that's true or not it does seem that way at times..
if the clubs vote FOR it - then the refs get to do what they want.
Yeh at least with VAR the corruptness is on full display
Waiting for the press conference and it's very noticeable the club have not put the Man Yoo match up. They do not want criticism?
We should have won. Poor decision with the VAR how they missed that? Also some very poor finishing by us. I’m annoyed as Joelinton should have played an Miggy from the start, but we’ve still got a chance. Great show last night.
Manager should be able to get ref to look at var maybe 2 looks a game
I'm having serious doubts whether Howe can manage at the top level ..Jose would have those players who didn't perform in THE 1ST HALF OFF immediately .. after 30mins ..& if that sends a msg out Good ..now I'm not advocating Jose for the job just making an example of how ruthless uv got to be..
Whatever you think of Mourinhos style of football he has won 26 major trophies in his career and Eddie has won the championship with Bournemouth I know which one I would bet on to win a trophy at Newcastle
I personally think theres something not quite right behind the scenes, the players dont seem as together as they were last year and with Wilson seemingly having a falling out with Howe it doesnt seem harmonious.
Eddie is too nice Paul
I'm not a massive pope fan but we needed him and Eddie let the supporters down I can't see us beating Brentford
I can't disagree with you Paul. Im very much in the Eddie camp but regarding being proactive instead of reactive I haven't seen that at all this season with the manager and re the players there is too many of them who can't deal with the big games ss unfortunately they are not good enough
Ask Sterling if pep is ruthless or not
I'm not so sure European var is better just look at the psg game. Keep var just improve the officials who run it.
Correct someone needs to come in for VAR, some refs are completely shite to judge, And as for next game (Brentford) iv got a good feeling about this one..we just need to settle it down
I dont think he has got the ruthless streak if he wants a hand Ill do it ... balls they get paid to do a job it happens to be football you perform you get games if you dont bye bye ... I think Billy is right they will have a word I am hoping they give him more confidence to say and be stronger ... it is so frustrating though because we have had games we should have won ...
Have ya watched Mark Goldbridges latest on Var absolutely spot on even he said it was a penalty var needs gone now! #InEddieweTrust
The only defender that wasn't shameful was Hall. Pope wouldn't have been able to help without direct intervention from The Boss.
I would like to know how many goals have been canceled out by var since it began its killing the game
I agree that Howe isn’t ruthless enough, and maybe he isn’t the right manager to take us to the next level. But who would replace him? Xabi Alonso?
There doesn’t seem to be a huge crop of elite managers out there anymore!
Is Jose Mourinho better than Howe? I’m not sure. I like Howe, but we are supposed to be elite, or at least that’s what the owners want.
Sergio Conceicao from Porto.
When the big games come they cant do it i have been to all the big games since Liverpool 1974 they cant do it even Man utd 96 99 2005 2023 and last night i dont know🙈👍
The best way to solve the VAR issue is to just remove the on field official completely from the decision. Let a 3rd party, not a referee, decide the solution from a central office that is decided between a group of 3. Their decision is then what happens. The on field official is too often swayed by players and coaches.
billy wants eddie out
Maybe the answer is let VAR deal with offside and ball in and out and only used it if the referee isn't sure. Classic example of how that would work would be last night's foul on Gordon. If Gordon had appealled to the ref or a pen and the ref wasn't sure , then, only then do VAR get involved. The issue last night was that Gordon didn't appeal as he thought it was a stonewall and the VAR people were obviously otherwise engaged.
For the VAR team, get refs who are supporters of each team(2) and have 2 neutral ones. It would take longer the decisions but it would be comprehensive. Get the stadiums fitted with more cameras that show multiple angles.
Livid still i went to bed sick as a chip
Eddie likes to be friends with the players, thats his style.
Love Eddie but was now need a world class proven manager. It's not his fault, but he does not have the 'big game' experience. I know it is cruel but facts are facts. We need someone to bring consistency to the team. We blow hot and cold. The second we think the team is cooking and we are on the up we don't turn up at the next game.... so frustrating! We need to bring balance and shake off the 'nearly team' stigma. Also, the owners will not spend this summer if they think we will not have a good chance of getting CL next year.
The winners of the FA Cup also qualify for the Europa League. If Manchester City (who have qualified for the Champions League) beat Manchester United to win the FA Cup final, then Europa League would go to sixth place, and seventh goes to Europa Conference League
the trouble is not just dodgy decisions of var but also poor ref standards as well some know they made wrong decisions deliberately but don't care can't see why things can't be like Europe, It was a stonewall penalty and Manure should of had a lot more cards diving a lot to get advantage that good they should join the navy but our team was mediocre last night and waiting bring on replacements with a few minutes left was stupid
Each country should have refs from other countries to run VAR in their country. If refs from other countries come to the prem they would just do a job and not put under any pressure from uk press and fans.
Use the European system which is semi automatic..also give each manager a flag like in nfl to challenge a call 3 times in each half but if you lose your challenge it's gone for the rest of that half.. offside should give the advantage to the forward like it use to and stop this playing on when it's a clear offside
Ex professional football players would be the right move to take over var . Someone who knows the game inside out .
In my opinion we need to stop worrying about eddie.he just needs to be given the tools to prove that he is elite.the players just aren't good enough.imagine how the season would have gone if he had ostracized longy, krafth,dubs, Murphy etc.he knows they are not good enough but has needed them.
1. The issue isnt VAR the issue is the people governing it. Our officiating is a complete joke, the standarda of referring is appalling. The only thing I would change, is have the audio available in the moment if you're watching on TV so you can hear the proccess.
2. Eddie Howe does not have "Big Game" mentality, his loyalty to certain players has cost him. Fergy not only didn't care about upsetting players, he sacked some of his best players when they didn't show the heart and loyalty to the club. If you didnt perform, you didnt play. If you didnt play, you didnt stay.
Get rugby refs to analyse incidents, they always get it right and are transparent, and, refs should be miked up like rugby refs to inform fans of decisions.