Xu Xin vs Lin Gaoyuan | 2019 ITTF China Open Highlights (1/2)
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- Review all the highlights from the Xu Xin vs Lin Gaoyuan the Seamaster 2019 ITTF World Tour Platinum, China Open.
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I am very impressed with Xu xin's backhand improvement. He has improved his backhand consistency and the quality of it as well. The problem Xu Xin is facing now is his speed and recovery time. Xu Xin has big strokes and his playstyle is mostly at the backh of the table and hitting the ball only when it reaches the top of the bounce. This style may be useful against a lot of foreigners as they do not know his game well but not against his chinese teammates. He has lost to a lot of his colleagues because of his play style. But no matter what, this playstyle is what made xu xin the cloudwalker and producing all the spectacular and entertaining rallies. I thank you for that and congratulations for making the top 10 point of the tournament once again.
if you think back long time ago that was considered impossible. we wouldnt have guessed that a penholder will evolve its meta like this, and achieves a backhand, that can almost play like a normal one.
I feel so sad for Xu Xin. He's got a ripping forehand and dramaticly improved backhand yet still didn't get through. Wish him best luck next time.
Indeed. Such a performance and the loss…
Your wish came true
I say Xu Xin's backhand has improved a lot this time, but Lin Gaoyuan has been impressive this tourney!
6:04 what a rally!
Always a pleasure to watch XX play, so much entertainement! It sad that we don't get to watch him play against ML in the final.
Man, I want to see both Ma Long and Xu Xin in the final desperately.
true , Lin can't make it to the champion for sure and not entertain at all compare to Xuxin
Xu Xin used to have a weak BH, this time he shows a lot of improvement in this tournament. But, now his problem is he can’t make a smooth fast transition between FH and BH. Particularly, due to the grip of the RPB, it is much more difficult to make a good shot when the ball is coming to the area between the middle of the body and the BH. Lin exploit this weakness almost perfectly, you can see that after the 3rd game, Xu Xin was completely cornered and his hands were tied. Kudos to Lin for this smart play, he sure has come a long way.
The problem is the speed of Lin Gaoyuan is a lot faster than Xu Xin.
nah it's just good tactics. Lin played to his backhand only.
Lin forced Xu to make simple errors, speed was not the problem
I for one think it was both. Tactics and speed. As the shots that goes right into his racket are not "forced" errors.
+ I think he stepped over too much, and left his (Xu's) tactics too predictable.
And xu xin are older than lin, a lot of it.
The problem is that Xu Xin's game is built primarily to beat right handers.Against a lefty that sidespin doesn't do much damage.LG could keep with XX's forehand in rallies even though his forehand is nothing special.XX had the same problem against Chen Qi in the past.
Xu Xin played much better than at the previous World Championships. It is unexpected that we lost at this stage.
The best serve-returning backhand-flip of Lin Gaoyuan that I have ever seen! But Xu Xin´s backhand also is very good now. The best shakehand-backhand after Wang Hao!
Do you mean non-shakehand?
Lin handled the spin of Xu xin so well where other players have problem .
I enjoy XX play style better than most of the other well known players even when he loses the game.
What an amazing game!!
A brilliant match !!!
希望林高远能卫冕深圳冠军。加上许昕，马龙，樊振东，还有梁靖琨，王楚昕中国男队还是很稳的
This is not Dark Knight , he is Bright Future of Chinese TT.
Lgy improve much now, play better less error
And then he plays against Ma Long...
LGY has improved a lot since last year. More speed, spin and power plus strong mentality and strategy. Think he will stay in the CNT for a long time. XX is lethal to foreign players but not to his own country men as they all know his style too well. It's not bad to get into the semi's anyway. Better luck next time. He's always our show man, full of surprises and fun. No one can play and entertain these days.
Now I feel not so good for the lost of XX
Go Lin Gaoyuan, you are the best player for the shakehand grip. I support you because I use shakehand grip.
Lin is very nice to watch. He is so stable! 1:4 and 3:6 in the last set converted to 11:6 is pretty much impressive!
Great play and video! Is XX vs TB available?
After losing 2 sets, Lin focused more on forcing Xu to use backhand. Xu's backhand has improved a lot but he still had lots of unforced errors
Классная игра!
Xu xin defends better than choppers
thought Xu Xin could win. He can be better.
Look at LGY how happy he is winning 11-6 and not in the deuce after leading 10-6
ลิน เกายวนเล่นหวาดเสียวตลอด แต่นัดนี้แม่นยำมากขึ้น รวดเร็ว และอาวุธหนักมากขึ้นทำให้เอาชนะซูซินได้ ถ้าเอาชนะหม่าหลงได้ด้วยนายจะสุดยอดมาก สู้ๆ
How do you calculate the spin rate of the shots?
Same doubt here
its probably a average calculation
there are (maybe) cameras to detect the spin for a split second. Then they just multiply the spin rate for that small time frame until the time frame equals a minute
Xu xin is such a gentleman,, in the end of the game he look like he accept defeat..
Xu Xin played great, as good as we’ve seen. And that backhand is a real threat now. But Lin Gaoyuan is so good against those he knows well. Almost error free, can read all of Xu’s serves, can counterloop off the bounce against the world’s best loop, he seems to know where every ball is going. And Lin’s confidence is sky high. But Xu doesn’t know where Lin is going, you see him wrong footed many times. This is like strategy against an opponent who can read all your emails but the reverse is not true.
@6:03 World-class entertainment rally.
Xu Xin totally loses his confidence in the last set and stops his extraordinary footwork.
So, the final is now between Lin Gaoyuan and none other than The Dictator.
Ml won?
@@medullaoblongata7211 yes with 4-1.
@@znmas935 fucccckkk yeaaahh.!! When the fuck will ittf upload that match shit.... Get rekt harimoto
Xu xin is beautiful, but unfortunately penholder style died with the new ball. He would be world champion with a 38mm ball probably
of all the chinese players he had the fewest problems adapting to it
Well to the 40+ from the 40 at least
#許昕 要强化反手對峙或攻擊力；參考一下馬龍的放短方式。
LG has improved very much. The final will be very exicted. I look foward to see LG beat Malong.
Xu Xin may have the best forehand among all professional players, but he also has a backhand below average. I think that's why he plays like an artist because he has to play in that way. He has to put extra efforts to make his opponent counter with his forehand instead of backhand. Many of his magnificent shots come from making up for the unfavorable condition his backhand brought.
Xu Xin can play RPB better but he use it behind the table where it is harder and not that effective . He should start using it for not only spin but punch and early bounce tempo backhand . The thing is if he do this his forehand should change as well to shorter stroke often and use more FH flips and this is good vs LGY but all this change just for 1 player that knew your game well ... and LGY may just came up with something new :) If Wang Hao was left handed it would be interesting to see how it would play out.
LGY next no.1!
Can LGY pose a challenge to Ma long, who is playing in a "zone". What do you think?
林高远一直变线，这种策略让他有优势
how do you measure the spin rate (rpm)? where can you buy such a device?
Use a slowmotion camera
Most of xu xin points come from his rpb.
9:17 Xu Xin playing so close to the table against LGY
What happened with Xu Xin?? He's no longer the same!
Xu xin's backhand confidence: gone
Close to table vs the bleachers (lol)
Xu xin gets uncomfortable close to the table because of Lin’s speed
I think Xu Xin is stuck in a weird place right now. His backhand is stable enough that he can rally with the best. But it is not lethal enough to score. So it's difficult for him to initiate attacks. I really hope he has a plan to continue building more tactics around his backhand.
When you compare lin guayuan game with xu xin and ma long it tells you clearly how he won against xu xin but keeps losing to ma long. Ma long plays almost perfect from both ends now. His positioning is outstanding. Also ma has the ability to counter any opponent with any style of play. The variety in his game currently is unmatched on tour.
Xu xin forehand 7700rpm at 10:10
What’s Rate?
@@PascryVL spin rate
Kai Kit Lai
Thanks
@Daniel Diao how do you know that?
Quel niveau !
決勝は馬龍と林か
Spade (Hansen) rupanya beralih Profesi gan
the intro of these videos are so loud if you listening with headphones it is harmfullu dangerous, pls consider this.
I wish XX had won :(. His BH improved a lot but LGY is relentless in attacking his BH. As soon as XX pivots and uses FH, LGY will do a down the line shot. XX's weakness is very hard to overcome against someone who knows him too well.
danm xu is on fire
Xu xin’s problem is his backhand, as a left hand player he trusts his forehand a lot (usually left hand player’s backhand is very dangerous to opponent), when ball comes to his backhand he always tries to use forehand, however his forehand is not as destructive as other forehand player like wang liqin.
Left-handed players and penhold style don't mix well .Especially if you don't have a super serve.
i thought the commentators are flawless :D lin gaoyuan, not gaoyuen.
lin with crazy spin this match, and super fast changed from back to forehand.
They said it correctly, what are you talking about
dang i for sure thought lin gaoyuan would lose
大家好
I am a player both left shake player and right chinese penhold. My eye is very busy.
オフチャ・ジングン・シュシンにこれだけ粘り強く勝ち上がった林をストレートで倒す人外さんホンマ強すぎやで
最初からits show time って言うとこすこ
Xu xin's service return is what lost him the match
I don't believe. Xu xin was better, he play beautiful and more openly. but for me xu xin still №1
Xu xin because of his dominant forehand side gets himself out of position. The Chinese players handle the spin that he generates well so thereby reducing his advantage. When he is using his FH topspin they counter and hit a counter FH to the other side where obviously he can't reach. His improvements in BH will make his position close to the center of table. Thus making sure other can't take advantage of the empty right sided space of xu xin.
Again it's so tough to change your game as xu xin's style was never this. But he has made significant improvements uptill now.
what happened to xu xin,fanzhendong,dimitrij ovtcharov and calderano😭😭😡
got beaten by better opponent i guess
6:04 GG
Xu xin e o unico q bate ma long mas nunca se trombam em semi ou xu xin perde pra outros! O jogo classineta tem mais falhas q o classico por isso mas xu xin e o melhor mesmo assim so n vence
I think xx was not in this game...
I hope Xu Xin changes his style. The big movements leaning over and not moving too much is unfortunate
Lin is not a better player, he just have a better strategy, looks pretty dirty. Stay close to the table, block his forehand then direct to the other corner with backhand.
Ricardo Augusto Rodrigues Simões Thats what makes him a better player
Strategies are dirty now?
What a match ! XX really has improved his RPB but still he is too slow to recovery. He needs to "trust" that the RPB will win the points as much as his FH winners. Goes to show how much more room for improvement XX has !
LGY is the new batch that has "learnt" to "strike" the ball a lot harder ... FZD, LJK, LGY ... all the new kids are learning that 40+ ball means you can hit it like crazy. Now if only XX can use all his "spin" potential and force the hitters early into erroring.
This is going to be crucial, can spin overcome speed ? Can you spin so much that any smash will fly off into the distance? XX is the HIGHEST spin player around ... even ML doesn't play so much spin game anymore.
40+ balls has really nerfed the game, but XX has adapted his spin even on the crappy ball.
We will have to wait and see if XX can put the spin early and keep the ball in play longer.
XX has the C-pen to put deceptive spins on the ball, but can he do it effortlessly and flawlessly in the game ?
XX has the abilities and advantage in experience and skill, can he make his "body" react with the confidence and "quickness" needed to beat these whipper-snappers ???
Lin gugu is too fast for cloudwalker
Xu Xin is by far the better player. He played really well this tournament. His head just wasn’t in the game.
He played well here, when someone returns that one extra shot it switches the perspective of winning the point like a boss to added pressure which is also somewhat governed by luck. So in a match of few points, the aforementioned volatility is something to attribute to LGY excellence rather than XX's failure.
manish maharjan I’m not saying he didn’t play well. I’m just saying that you could visibly see he was annoyed or had had enough at certain points in the game. Maybe he was just tired, but either way, there were balls there that he could have returned that he didn’t bother doing. In no way am I trying to take away the win from LGY. He played very well, it’s just that he had the added advantage of is opponent not being in tip-top mental shape.
Xu Xin is most artist player in table tennis world. Xu Xin forehand topspin is the most typical pupil of old Liu Gualang school from the era of chinese trio superstars Wang Liquin-Ma Lin-Wang Hao. Then japanese manufactures manipulated to apply heavyweight balls (ball weight was 2 grams, then 2.5 grams, and now 2.7 grams) to set up bored japanese "swift hits" style in order to win against chinese players. With these illegal heavyweight balls, Japan than introduced its new generation of small bodied players (it was Harimoto, it is Niwa, Kenta, Hirano, Ito, ...) , which are fit to these ILLEGAL heavyweight balls and japanese bored 'swift hits' style. Even Liu Gualang doubted that Xu Xin forehand topspin techniques are outdated. But Xu Xin is showing the other objective reality. With his forehand topspin, Xu Xin easily beats Harimoto all times. Other new chinese players have troubles against Harimoto, but Xu Xin have not. Xu Xin can easily beat any chinese top players too.
Xu Xin had problem. He was a traditional penholder with old traditional penholder backhand techniques. Then Xu Xin added modern backhand techniques of reversed racket side strokes, but he used mixed backhand techniques : old penholder backhand techniques and modern penholder backhand techniques. It is wrong choose. Penholders can choose only one from 2 styles, but not mixed style. It is because of the issue of reaction orientation in quick rallies. Fortunately for Xu Xin, that he then entirely switched to use only modern backhand techniques. For the last 2 years, we see that Xu Xin set up his reaction to play only modern backhand techniques with racket reversed sides for backhand strokes. It is right decision. And this switch requires about 2 year to be fluently applied. Xu Xin spent 2 years from this switch. Xu Xin is now in the stage of modern penholder backhand techniques improving. So Xu Xin still has real big potential. He does not have time to archive career as Ma Long, but he still can win grand slam and olympic title.
The weakness of Xu Xin is that he sometimes stops running and playing after realizing his famous forehand topspin, because he thinks that his opponents can not handle. But top players now can easily handle these balls, but they can not initially attack from these balls. So Xu Xin topspin can give him a bit advantages of forcing his opponent to lose positions, but these topspins can not often give directly points. That is why must keep running, and not to risk to earn direct points with forehand topspin in uncleared dominated cases. Xu Xin often play backhand in his so high poses. It is problem too, because he lost temp and angle in backhand techniques and in maneuver of switching forehand-backhand. It is clearly in this match. And his backhand strokes are still lag of spin, not enough spin as Wang Hao backhand strokes.
xu xin is not as fast as he was in the past now. sad
Xu Xin is definitely a better player. Anyway after the 3rd game he lost his motivation, and his footwork gone away. He has to improve his mental approach.
Bad news...
Ma long viene en busca de lo que le pertenece¡¡¡¡
Xie Xin poops a ping pong 2:33
lildavey09 Dude...
Hahaha(xuxin btw
森薗政崇の上位互換が林高遠
XX has gotta stay in the middle of the table more, the more he favours his backhand side, the more vulnerable he's on his forehand side. With his backhand improvements, he really shouldn't favour that side so heavily. Of course, this is coming from a random noob on a youtube comment, so... you know, take what you will :)
First!!
Edit: Damn it Xu Xin!
Second 😂
Third
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fifth
sixth
時折表示されるXu Xinの回転量バグりすぎだろ・・・。
Fantsatic players.
シュシンには勝って欲しかった。
Вероятно, это была самая ужасная концовка в карьере Синя...
Lin gaoyuan will win china open i think
Rajagopal Kv no ma long will beat him
@@vendingmachineguy7750 Let's see
@@rajagopalkv8592 lin gao yuan might have a fast reflex but ma long is more clever and more creative with his shot and im sure ma long will overcome lin gao yuan reflex and force him to make mistake
@@vendingmachineguy7750 True. I agree. Ma long is the goat
@@rajagopalkv8592 ma long win 4 - 0. what you want me to see anymore?
Sad for XX, his time might be over, really sad. Lin plays so aggressively and smart. He reads game way better and faster than LJK.
I feel so sad when he lost, i don't know why? :(
We always feel sad for the losers !
崩潰
Lin Gaoyuan just too fast！
xu is too old now
And 3 months later he is world number One, hahaha
Xx backhand improved still no where close to top Chinese players backhand
Great players, exciting game.
But I don‘t like LGYs frequently shouts. So stupid.
Adam is the worst ever !!! 👿