Why We Can't Have Small Trucks Anymore - Blame the EPA

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  • čas přidán 2. 07. 2023
  • Ever wonder why we don't have any small, rugged trucks in the US anymore? Remember fondly those 80s Toyota trucks, the Ranger, the S-10, Isuzu, Mitsubishi, or Nissan Hardbodies?
    It's not just consumer demand or companies driving for higher profits. Our EPA sets fuel economy standards that prohibit small trucks from meeting mileage requirements, as well as incentivizing larger trucks and SUVs with lower MPG requirements.
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  • @Smedleydog1
    @Smedleydog1 Před 10 měsíci +11408

    EPA: Your small truck doesn't get good enough fuel economy.
    Auto Manufacturer: Okay we'll make it bigger and get even worse fuel economy.
    EPA: That's better.

    • @alansloan7784
      @alansloan7784 Před 10 měsíci +659

      EPA, NHTSA, CAFE, and every other infringing bureaucracy---and 'law' on the books---, needs to be abolished. No more government restrictions on what vehicles the public WANTS to buy. This change is long overdue.....

    • @_Circus_Clapped_
      @_Circus_Clapped_ Před 10 měsíci +230

      ​@@alansloan7784
      there are politicians that say this every term and they get outshined by the "lesser of two evils" rhetoric

    • @frontiervirtcharter
      @frontiervirtcharter Před 10 měsíci +685

      @@alansloan7784 Clean air and water are things we all need. The problem isn't that we have regulations, the problem is that the guys who wrote them answer to the guy with the deepest pockets. The CAFE formula was a little too clever and the car companies are gaming the system. Tax vehicles based directly on how much pollution they put out, and how much wear&tear they put on the road.

    • @mr.frandy7692
      @mr.frandy7692 Před 10 měsíci

      fkn FED rtards. My dad had to deal with those a-holes. Half the time their solution was actually worse for the environment. Maybe they need to pay their employees more to attract smarter people.

    • @jefftruckenbrodt2819
      @jefftruckenbrodt2819 Před 10 měsíci +255

      And then let's mandate 10% ethanol for even worse fuel mileage...brilliant.

  • @kennethmendenhallii1598
    @kennethmendenhallii1598 Před 10 měsíci +3967

    This is actually a story about how car makers and their lobbiests hobbled the CAFE standards so they could pull small trucks with small margins and sell you huge trucks with huge margins. See also: the Chicken Tax.

    • @comochinganconesto
      @comochinganconesto Před 10 měsíci +597

      Thank you! I've been explaining this to people all over the comment section. When something doesn't make sense, look for who is profiting and you're likely to find your culprit.

    • @kennethmendenhallii1598
      @kennethmendenhallii1598 Před 10 měsíci +258

      @@comochinganconesto I saw you fighting the good fight, and decided to add another voice of reason haha

    • @rustie115
      @rustie115 Před 10 měsíci +363

      This comment deserves more attention. It seems all too easy for most to simply follow the "gubmint bad" line of thought without considering the topic any further.

    • @realsushi_official1116
      @realsushi_official1116 Před 10 měsíci +43

      makes sense! The govnt didn't think of that itself

    • @corey333p
      @corey333p Před 10 měsíci +115

      So essentially small trucks don't make as much money as big trucks?
      I'm just trying to fully understand because I really miss the small trucks.
      Also explain the Chicken Tax

  • @cranecams6784
    @cranecams6784 Před 27 dny +14

    Cash for Clunklers took so many classic, cool trucks away forever 😢

  • @beaconofwierd1883
    @beaconofwierd1883 Před 7 měsíci +332

    This is a perfect example of why a measure that becomes a target no longer measures the thing it intended to measure.

    • @TucsonDude
      @TucsonDude Před 7 měsíci +1

      Brilliant! Did you just make that up or is that a quote?

    • @beaconofwierd1883
      @beaconofwierd1883 Před 6 měsíci +15

      @@TucsonDude It’s Goodhart’s law :p

    • @jeffsaxton716
      @jeffsaxton716 Před 6 měsíci +5

      I think this was a lobbyist boondoggle. Big auto in America has bought Congress, and caused this issue.

    • @beaconofwierd1883
      @beaconofwierd1883 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@jeffsaxton716 Yeah, corruption is a common method to follow Goodharts law :p

    • @nickbrutanna9973
      @nickbrutanna9973 Před 4 měsíci

      @beaconofwierd1883
      It's also why letting the government regulate something is often a bad idea. Make the government specify the GOAL -- _only_ -- not how it is to be approached or maintained. Then encourage industry organizations to turn those goals into reality.

  • @alstruck8063
    @alstruck8063 Před 10 měsíci +5084

    Looks like granddad was right again, there's no situation that can't be made worse by a government agency "fixing" it. I really miss the 2nd generation Ford Ranger.

    • @jasoncarpp7742
      @jasoncarpp7742 Před 10 měsíci +166

      I agree. I don't get why govt. has to get involved in how everything is built. They say it's for our safety and yadda, yadda. But what do they know? They're not the ones building the cars.

    • @davidbrown-hi8qh
      @davidbrown-hi8qh Před 10 měsíci +112

      I'm still driving a ranger !
      Best small truck ever !

    • @maxcactus7
      @maxcactus7 Před 10 měsíci +27

      100% CORRECT!!

    • @jasoncarpp7742
      @jasoncarpp7742 Před 10 měsíci +36

      My stepfather had a 1978 Toyota Hilux Pickup truck.

    • @eddiewillers1
      @eddiewillers1 Před 10 měsíci +170

      Government is often the reason why we can't have nice things.

  • @saxon6
    @saxon6 Před 10 měsíci +457

    My brother in law spent 3000 totally restoring his 88 Ranger. 5 years ago i would have called him crazy. Today he's a genius

    • @xQuandaleDinglex
      @xQuandaleDinglex Před 10 měsíci +47

      $3000? That's CHEAP. Good on him though. 👏🏾

    • @KenzertYT
      @KenzertYT Před 10 měsíci +11

      We got lucky buying (for $800) a 97 Explorer (you know, the Ranger and Bronco II's cousin,) and then restoring it (completely. full suspension rebuild, engine work, body work, frame rust removal and repair, etc etc etc) and holding onto it. Turns out it's the best of all worlds and you'd be amazed how well it fits down skinny trails versus a modern """""truck""""". Yeah it has emissions equipment but there was a scandal in the late 90s to make these "light trucks, meant for working" possible with their "against the rules fuel margins" and I wouldn't trade it for the world. You may see me pick up a $500 shitbox car to take the load off of my truck but I won't be getting rid of it any time soon.

    • @buckseedamerica2743
      @buckseedamerica2743 Před 10 měsíci +1

      That is cheap..I cant remember what the gas mileage Mazda got back then which were rebranded Fords but they had a sharp body style and look great lowered tricked out and all. 😊

    • @jackedup447
      @jackedup447 Před 10 měsíci +6

      3000 is pretty damn cheap for a restoration.

    • @agustinequihua936
      @agustinequihua936 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I rebuild the engine on my 88 ford ranger on the year 2000 im still driving it today in 2023,oil change every 3000 miles and regular maintenance. I don't think I can afford a new car 😂

  • @diegosuarez1563
    @diegosuarez1563 Před 6 měsíci +99

    This is why I held on to my Dakota. Still runs like a champ. Anything breaks, i fix it right away.

  • @MaydupNem
    @MaydupNem Před 7 měsíci +198

    I always though that if someone could figure out how to build a small, reliable, cheap, basic pickup, they could capture a huge market share. Pretty much every company that needed basic fleet or work trucks would buy them, and so would thousands of people that just wanted a basic work truck with crank windows, stick shift, and a bench seat.

    • @codemiesterbeats
      @codemiesterbeats Před 7 měsíci +19

      Yep or bare bones off road vehicles (see Suzuki Jimny) shame we can't have something like that. Mexico does but it's probably impossible to import... But I have no idea how, I know people drive right across the border so idk.
      Too much money in "barbie jeeps"
      I also think there would be a market for a simple/designed for repairs etc vehicle for fleets / working people.

    • @SweBeach2023
      @SweBeach2023 Před 6 měsíci +9

      People are not looking for cheap and basic. We had cars and pickups like those for decades. But when given a choice people went for more expensive and bigger.

    • @Mawyman2316
      @Mawyman2316 Před 6 měsíci +32

      @@SweBeach2023 no they didn’t, maybe try watching the video. They went with small and basic until we regulated them out of existince and went with big because they were there. Since they were there and they had to buy at a premium they wanted a premium truck.

    • @peterrose5373
      @peterrose5373 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Take a sawsall to a hatchback, then add roll-bars. YOU aren't an OEM, you don't have to meet the standard.

    • @mjdryden
      @mjdryden Před 6 měsíci +8

      ​@@Mawyman2316they weren't regulated out of existence, there's nothing stopping anyone from making a small efficient truck.
      The manufacturers found a loophole and decided it was easier to make them bigger so they fit in a looser requirement class instead of making them more efficient.

  • @Unknown_Ooh
    @Unknown_Ooh Před 10 měsíci +724

    This is absolutely mind boggling that they want more fuel efficient trucks but they wont let small trucks come out 😂

    • @iiGingiey
      @iiGingiey Před 10 měsíci +55

      With my understanding it's more surprising to hear that the smaller trucks would have a hard time meeting the standards without being proportioned ridiculously. I feel like if they looked into it, they could find a areo dynamic enough design that it meets the standards while still being that relatively longer car shaped truck.

    • @cconnon1912
      @cconnon1912 Před 10 měsíci +42

      Govt plan backfired a bit. Almost seems like the truck manufacturers are taking the easy way out too. Americans want big trucks. The want the biggest nicest they can afford. Sad but true.

    • @davestorm6718
      @davestorm6718 Před 10 měsíci +63

      @@cconnon1912 Some americans maybe, but everyone I've talked to with the giant trucks are not too happy (their payments are quadruple. they're hard to park - take up too much space in most garages, cost more to run).

    • @GoingtoHecq
      @GoingtoHecq Před 10 měsíci +63

      Well no govt decision that harms the people is done without a corporate entity behind it. If the EPA had actually persued good environmental policy then we would all have as many mini pickups as we wanted. Unfortunately this decision was probably made to serve American car manufacturers by allowing them to remove competition for their larger and more expensive trucks. There is no doubt that they greased those wheels.

    • @graysonhill1366
      @graysonhill1366 Před 10 měsíci +32

      @@GoingtoHecqit’s about the same with some “right to repair” legislation that’s been on the table for a bit. The manufactures aren’t going to support non-OEM competition, let alone build vehicles that the owners (or a mom and pop auto shop) could repair themselves.

  • @dereklenzen2330
    @dereklenzen2330 Před 10 měsíci +650

    The irony is that if you are simply hauling stuff, the older small trucks are so much more practical than the newer big trucks because the bed is lower. A man of normal stature can pick up something bulky like a hay bale and lift it over the side of a small truck. For a big truck, however, it's easier to lower the tailgate and then proceed to climb up into the bed to move the hay bale into position. This requires a lot more effort and carries the risk of falling off the bed or slipping and hurting your leg while climbing up there.

    • @bobcostas9716
      @bobcostas9716 Před 10 měsíci +48

      Not just more practical because of height either. I have a 2006 Tacoma 4 cylinder with the access cab, and it's rated to 1300lbs. That's a lot of most stuff the average guy is likely to haul. I've gotten up to capacity with compost, stone, hay, demo, moving house, and whatnot, and while it ain't exactly peppy going uphill it always gets there, and still has some spring travel left. Plus Toyota redid the frame for free about 5 years ago, and we do maintenance like clockwork. I figure with only 170K on it, it's probably good for another 8-10 years with a little under coating.

    • @Argedis
      @Argedis Před 10 měsíci +27

      This is exactly what I love about my 2001 Tacoma. I can easily load/unload anything from the sides of the truck.
      This was also true even for older full sized trucks but nowadays the bed on modern trucks is so tall you really can't anymore

    • @DFPercush
      @DFPercush Před 10 měsíci +35

      We just need to bring back the El Camino :P

    • @FtanmoOfEtheirys
      @FtanmoOfEtheirys Před 10 měsíci +24

      Because that is what trucks were originally for. You can't actually use them as trucks anymore unless you are some beefy-boi of a giant.
      We just need UTEs in America. I'd love a Holden Commodore UTE or a Ford Falcon UTE.

    • @bobcostas9716
      @bobcostas9716 Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@FtanmoOfEtheirys Given my druthers I'd take a South African Hi-Lux manual transmission. If I cold get one with 4 wheel drive I'd swoon.

  • @ralphnorris-vk8ff
    @ralphnorris-vk8ff Před 5 měsíci +29

    It's not just small trucks, but try to get a work truck. If you want a single cab with crack windows, rubber floor mats for work, that a special order! Epa has nothing to do with that. It's profits!

    • @Incomudro1963
      @Incomudro1963 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Prophet margins are huge (pardon the pun) on pickup trucks.
      The bigger the truck, the wider the margin.

  • @horvathbenedek3596
    @horvathbenedek3596 Před 26 dny +22

    Just gonna point out, 48-49 mpg (or 4.8-4.9 liter per 100 km) is absolutely insane. Most compact and subcompact full ICU cars made in the past 10 years have a trouble hitting that, nevermind a full sized car of any type. I don't know what politicians were huffing when they drew up this chart, but it's very obvious they had no idea if what they were doing.

    • @insu_na
      @insu_na Před 15 dny

      Works for cars in Europe

    • @horvathbenedek3596
      @horvathbenedek3596 Před 15 dny +4

      @@insu_na I'm from Europe, I drive a small engine hatchback made in Europe, and used in Europe. It's not anywhere NEAR 4.8-4.8 liters.
      For reference:
      1.6 liter engine, 74 hp, 1050 kg weight overall. Lowest consumption I ever got out of it was 6.1 liters per 100 km, driving near constant speed on a daily basis during covid, at 90 km/h on the dot. City travel included that consumption blows up to 7.4 liters and more, per 100 km.
      Remind you, this is a 20 year old Opel Astra F, insanely efficient, low power, low weight. Practically a perfect compact all around car.
      You won't get 4.8 liters out of a car without some trickery. If you get 50 mpg out of a plug in hybrid, that's not REALLY 50 mpg, becahse the manufacturer charged it ahead of time, and the engine doesn't cover the engine power output of the car.
      I Iiterally just checked, and the highest mpg for non-hybrid cars available in 2023/2024 is 32 mpg, or 7.35 l/100 km combined consumption, for, get this, a 1.5 liter, 3 cylinder mini cooper.
      Exact stats:
      1.5 liter engine, 3 cylinder, turbo charges, 156 hp, 1260 kg curb weight. Ignoring the impressive 156 hp, this car is not only nowhere bear the 4.8 l consumption, it's also about 300-400 kg short of a truck. Again. How do you expect a truck to have a consumption of 4.8 liters per 100 km, when a subcompact car, with a turbocharged powerhouse of an engine, probably above 40% thermodynamic efficiency, absolutely finetuned to be the perfect city car, can't even get CLOSE to that consumption?
      You'd need something like a 1 liter, inline 3, 50 hp car, with a curb weight of 600 kg, to hit those stats. Problem is, then there's no A pillar, no airbags, no LED, no stereo.
      Wanna see a car that can do 5 liters in 100 km? Polski Fiat 126. Literally 600 curb weight, 24 hp. You like it? Will you like it when it gets flattened in a car accident?
      And again, still not anywhere near a truck.

    • @insu_na
      @insu_na Před 15 dny

      @@horvathbenedek3596 what are you even talking about.. even an audi a3 is getting more than 50mpg

    • @horvathbenedek3596
      @horvathbenedek3596 Před 15 dny +3

      @@insu_na You're so cute... "Even an Audi A3 is getting more" is it? Sure... the Audi A3 1.0 liter TSFI version... officially.
      In reality driver experience shows that you can't get an MPG higher than 45 out of it (so that's 5.2 liters per 100 km). It's also 110 hp at 5500-6000 rpm with a turbo charger, and an Audi (meaning your engine will have a VERY short lifespan... talk about pollution), the 5500-6000 rpm means in everyday driving you're getting... about 50 hp out of it, and mpg will plummet. It's also 1170 kg (again, as light as you can get w/ airbags and whatnot, not a truck at all), and did I mention it costs 37000-45000 dollars?
      Personal testimonials put real MPG at 40 on highway. You can find forums.
      So for 40000-45000 dollars you can get a torbucharged weed whacker with the lifespan of a coked out cicada, which is STILL not anywhere near 48-49 mpg.
      And AGAIN. Audi is a premium car brand. They are out of the budget of 95% of Americans and Europeans.
      EDIT: One more thing. Manufacturers often fake a higher MPG by using higher quality fuel. Obviously it's absurd to claim the car has higher consumption if you use a higher octane, higher, higher energy, lower ethanol fuel.

    • @insu_na
      @insu_na Před 15 dny

      @@horvathbenedek3596 Audi A3 is a lot but it's not premium, lol. I specifically chose it because it's such a common, average car.

  • @dirtyharry5320
    @dirtyharry5320 Před 10 měsíci +440

    What's crazy is that the big automakers lobbied for these draconian CAFE regulations, because it eliminates competition. There is so much red tape involved in manufacturing a car in this
    country, and having it be street legal. It's only possible if you're already one of the big dogs. It ensures than no mom and pop automaker could ever gain a foothold.

    • @shizanepimp1
      @shizanepimp1 Před 10 měsíci +67

      Your right. The you become " too big to fail" and get all that gubment money!

    • @jamescarter3196
      @jamescarter3196 Před 10 měsíci +62

      I'm glad at least some people put the blame in the right place. It's ridiculous how many people are just blindly using this information to blurt out 'wull govermint bad! Govermint regulations bureaucracy and laws and EPA, bad!'

    • @AndyWeasel-pu1jk
      @AndyWeasel-pu1jk Před 10 měsíci +3

      Somehow it didn't stop Tesla from happening!

    • @joeblow411
      @joeblow411 Před 10 měsíci

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    • @Tengokujin
      @Tengokujin Před 10 měsíci +27

      That's why I can't wholly blame the EPA, when it's clear that lobby money from car manufacturers helped ensure these stupid regulations got codified the way they did.

  • @errorsofmodernism7331
    @errorsofmodernism7331 Před 10 měsíci +2120

    This formula also acts as a hidden tariff barrier on small, imported foreign trucks and establishes a bias towards larger domestic production

    • @the_kombinator
      @the_kombinator Před 10 měsíci +202

      Which is not only better for consumers, it's also a lot better for the environment. Plus, you definitely need a 5.7L V8 to tow your 12 foot sailboat around. Definitely. Otherwise we're questioning your manhood.

    • @greyfox79007
      @greyfox79007 Před 10 měsíci +82

      Same goes with safety features. It was never about safety it was always about forcing you to make a part in the US.

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv Před 10 měsíci +27

      ​@@the_kombinatorthe saddest thing is that the Ford f series trucks have been the best vehicles in the USA all the terrible fuel economy and Vehicules been driven daily.

    • @the_kombinator
      @the_kombinator Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@greyfox79007 That I can get behind - keep SOME of the jobs local.

    • @the_kombinator
      @the_kombinator Před 10 měsíci +83

      @@carholic-sz3qv I see it all the time where I live - large 4 door pickups (with a bed wider than it is long) being driven to the grocery store, two kids and a soccer mom in it. Or jacked up on a suspension and tire combo that reduce its functionality (and make it a danger) and some 25 year old pasty skinny kid driving it who's never lifted a tool in their life, past stocking it at the local hardware store.
      What's the point? Get a small economy car.

  • @bwmedina
    @bwmedina Před 6 měsíci +75

    Fascinating, usually the explanation you see is “changing consumer tastes.” I miss my 2001 single cab S-10 and would totally buy a small truck if they ever started making them again.

    • @jahearme4259
      @jahearme4259 Před měsícem +1

      4.3 was a gas guzzler

    • @eugenedebs9547
      @eugenedebs9547 Před měsícem

      @@jahearme4259 S-10's didn't have a 4.3 or even a 3.8.

    • @jahearme4259
      @jahearme4259 Před měsícem +2

      @@eugenedebs9547 v6 4.3 vortex is the most common Chevy s10 motor engine bay is big enough to accommodate small block 350. Reason alot of people make drag truck's.

    • @VisonsofFalseTruths
      @VisonsofFalseTruths Před 10 dny +3

      There’s always a regulatory capture reason. But saying “we paid the politicians” looks bad; so does “we used social engineering to convince you that you NEED the bigger truck”.

    • @Joao-pl6db
      @Joao-pl6db Před 5 dny

      People buying SUV and pickup trucks more then ever is changing consumer tastes.

  • @bfulks2001
    @bfulks2001 Před 6 měsíci +30

    Thanks for pointing out the extreme stupidity of the EPA. I have wanted a small truck for awhile now I know why I can't get one.

  • @tedballsak3475
    @tedballsak3475 Před 9 měsíci +425

    Two words, profit margin. The number of quad cab , big tire, no scratches in the bed, pretty trucks out there is amazing. Over computerized,over priced and unreliable, but I have to look cool for the neighbors that I don't like enough to talk to.

    • @TheBigEasy85
      @TheBigEasy85 Před 9 měsíci +14

      This is the correct answer

    • @JJKU2014
      @JJKU2014 Před 9 měsíci +1

      What do you drive?

    • @cockyhemi-123
      @cockyhemi-123 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Exactly.

    • @deego237
      @deego237 Před 9 měsíci +29

      we buy things that we don't need with money we don't have to please people we don't like.

    • @JJKU2014
      @JJKU2014 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @deego237 not necessarily. Not growing up with anything nice, it's having a nice vehicle. I don't care what anybody thinks.

  • @theozonewizard
    @theozonewizard Před 7 měsíci +940

    I'm from Europe so I'm looking at this maybe a bit differently, but it seems obvious that these rules are really a protectionist trade policy in disguise. They're made to protect the domestic automakers and their workers against international competition. If you let the automakers write the rules, this is exactly what they would look like.

    • @schnuerle
      @schnuerle Před 7 měsíci +48

      Bingo!

    • @987erwin
      @987erwin Před 7 měsíci +18

      Well, a few days ago I heard mini cars like vw up, skoda citigo and others are finishing production because not meeting emission standards. I don't know the details but it probably has a similar background.

    • @forplayplay
      @forplayplay Před 7 měsíci +65

      Union carmakers and democrat party. A match made in our worst nightmares

    • @MildChunkySalsa
      @MildChunkySalsa Před 7 měsíci +45

      Yeah if US car makers wanted this law gone then they wouldn’t have supported it for decades now. We still have that tariff because US companies benefit from a low competition from foreign competitors.

    • @whirving
      @whirving Před 7 měsíci +11

      Does Europe even make any trucks that would sell in the US? I just don't know. We in the rural US tend to buy trucks or SUVs because the roads are crap and we need a utilitarian vehicle. Which European vehicle fills that niche? Maybe a Japanese truck does, or a US overseas model (hello Ford Ranger) but I can't think of many European 1 ton flatbeds. Please let me know if I'm missing out.

  • @drew9738
    @drew9738 Před 26 dny +5

    I miss my 1991 s-10. Such a good little truck.

  • @sethlavinder
    @sethlavinder Před 6 měsíci +22

    My first truck was a 93 Toyota 4x4 standard cab, 5 speed 22RE 4cyl , the only OPTION was air conditioning (which I consider essential) it was a pretty great truck! It would go anywhere and do ANYTHING my 18 yr old self was dumb enough to ask it to do! Now on the highway it didn’t have enough power to get out of its own way but it was able to do real work! Which is exactly what many need BADLY these days! A cheap affordable to own and maintain reliable truck capable of doing work!

  • @davidbarts6144
    @davidbarts6144 Před 10 měsíci +984

    A similar story exists when it comes to smaller, more affordable houses: virtually nobody builds them anymore because regulations make it uneconomical. Sad, and it shows just how detached the system is from serving the needs of many citizens.

    • @gomahklawm4446
      @gomahklawm4446 Před 10 měsíci

      That's called bribery. Sorry, "corporate lobbying". It should be a capital offense.

    • @mj_b23
      @mj_b23 Před 10 měsíci +83

      Well said. The county Im in wants all newer houses to be at least 1200 sq ft. They can't tax smaller homes as much.

    • @jhoughjr1
      @jhoughjr1 Před 10 měsíci +28

      @@mj_b23 lol 1200 sq feet is not a large home. Pretty damn average here in the US, outside of a city hellhole.
      Thats a cheap two bedroom apt even.

    • @mj_b23
      @mj_b23 Před 10 měsíci +137

      @@jhoughjr1 Never said 1200 sq ft was large. However, if I want to build an 800 sq ft house, I should be able to. My land, my choice.

    • @lucasward9506
      @lucasward9506 Před 10 měsíci +86

      @@jhoughjr1 yes, but if you were a college student or young adult would you rather live alone or with one roommate in a 600-800 sq ft house that was super cheap or would you rather live in a full sized house with 6 roommates whilst still struggling to make rent? Different people have different housing needs, the government should not regulate that so that Karen's property value remains high.

  • @martinschulz9381
    @martinschulz9381 Před 9 měsíci +521

    Those old small pickups were very useful and were good commuter vehicles. We actually used the small trucks for what they were built for. Most of these modern monstrosity trucks are like luxury vehicles and are only used for things like grocery shopping and never leave the paved roads.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Před 9 měsíci +35

      Litterally. People only buy them cus its the only shit they have.

    • @lucasellyson6872
      @lucasellyson6872 Před 9 měsíci +38

      Pavement Princess is what I call them

    • @DanBrando
      @DanBrando Před 9 měsíci +5

      2023 trd Tacoma.. :) 4months old and just broken in at over 3k miles and I finally took it trailing with only 1 plus size tires installed and it does AMAZING. Definitely take it off road.. not bashing or “rock crawling” but off road on muddy gravel trails

    • @rg58
      @rg58 Před 9 měsíci +19

      We had a small chain of parts stores and had a fleet of Nissan hardbodies, Ford Rangers, and Toyota pickups. They were extremely useful and much easier to get around town to deliver parts with than a full size truck. They easily hauled many items that would have ruined the inside of a small hatchback or other car. To those that say they are useless, you must have a small experience to pull from for your opinion.

    • @danieldryden6644
      @danieldryden6644 Před 9 měsíci +10

      Those things cost 50,000-100,000 you wouldn't want to beat up a vehicle that costs that much money

  • @ralphcantrell3214
    @ralphcantrell3214 Před 3 měsíci +11

    This horse hockey makes ZERO SENSE! Imagine our government complaining about emissions, greenhouse gasses, climate change, oil shortages and bell curves, fuel dependencies, etc etc etc, and at the same time forcing the manufacturers to build only humongous, gas guzzling pickups. 🤔

    • @user-hv9sg5pl8b
      @user-hv9sg5pl8b Před 29 dny

      The auto industry could change these laws and build small trucks, corporations run the government, but the want the profits from the gas guzzlers they are forcing on us now.

  • @austincox1239
    @austincox1239 Před 7 měsíci +7

    I smile every time I see my Grandpas 97 Ford Ranger in my garage 😊

  • @johnwrobel8445
    @johnwrobel8445 Před 10 měsíci +387

    I was digging around a few days ago and came with something interesting. A Maverick is only about 2.5 inches narrower (without the mirrors) than an '86 C10. And a 4x8 sheet of plywood would fit between the wheel wells on the C10. The mid-sized can't even do that. The whole "foot print" thing is government stupidity at its finest.

    • @donaldshimkus539
      @donaldshimkus539 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Don't think I ever saw a full size Chevy p. u. that you could lay a 4 foot wide anything between the wheel wells. Nor one with a bed long enough to close the tailgate with 8 foot long lumber inside.

    • @thezombie7839
      @thezombie7839 Před 10 měsíci +18

      @@donaldshimkus539 You can close the tailgate on a long bed Chevy with a 4x8 sheet of plywood in it, but you're right about the wheel wells.

    • @markp6062
      @markp6062 Před 10 měsíci +9

      I have a Maverick. You can lay a sheet of plywood on top of the wheel wells and there is a way to hang the tailgate higher so they sit level. Works great.

    • @anvilsvs
      @anvilsvs Před 10 měsíci +15

      @@donaldshimkus539 Fits in a Chrysler minivan.

    • @danielbackley9301
      @danielbackley9301 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@anvilsvs Also fit in between the wheel wells on my 1995 Dakota.

  • @TheREALJosephTurner
    @TheREALJosephTurner Před 10 měsíci +323

    And most likely, the reason the auto manufacturers lobbyists aren't raising a stink about this is because larger vehicles equal larger profits. If they lobby too hard for smaller trucks, it might backfire with politicians rewriting everything to make the larger (and more expensive) trucks carry all the penalties.

    • @ianperkins8812
      @ianperkins8812 Před 10 měsíci +10

      This, exactly.

    • @GleepVonReticuli
      @GleepVonReticuli Před 10 měsíci +42

      You can be sure that any regulation that passes in an industry was lobbied by the large actors in it. Regulations are the best way to avoid fair competition when you are on top.

    • @jasoncarpp7742
      @jasoncarpp7742 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I'm not against making money, that's why I work. But this is wrong. You'd think auto manufacturers would *"raise a stink"* over what govt. is doing.

    • @FinalLuigi
      @FinalLuigi Před 10 měsíci +17

      Like a wise man once said, 'if automakers cared about the environment, they wouldn't be selling nothing but trucks and SUVs."

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C Před 10 měsíci +23

      The last thing business wants is a free market.

  • @lankyjuggler
    @lankyjuggler Před 7 měsíci +14

    Thanks for explaining this. I miss those cute trucks, and I'm sick of those (often useless) big ones

  • @tntgoboom98
    @tntgoboom98 Před 6 měsíci +10

    After inheriting my '97 T100 from my grandpa I will never buy a "new" truck. It has an 8 foot bed that will fit everything and anything I would practically need, and is perfectly sized for most every road. I don't have to worry about the width of the road because it is about as wide as any other modern sedan, but the only problem I have with it is finding replacement parts. It just seems the whole point of a truck has been lost in the last few decades, it's just supposed to be a car you can throw more shit, instead of people, into. (unless you have your buddies ridding in the back.)

    • @northdakotaham1752
      @northdakotaham1752 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Ford missed the boat by having never put an 8 foot bed on a Ranger.

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd Před 10 měsíci +206

    I had the opportunity to rent a fairly new diesel Toyota Hilux while on African Safari. Over 6 weeks I put 8000 km on it, mostly off road. After that experience I realized why Toyota captured the market in Africa. It is by far the most popular vehicle in Africa, by a huge margin. The truck is robust, reasonably powerful, easy to fix, and everywhere. What a disappointment I couldn't find one in North America.

    • @stephenaustin142
      @stephenaustin142 Před 10 měsíci +26

      Hilux weapons platform of choice for the entire African continent.

    • @HIDHIFDB
      @HIDHIFDB Před 10 měsíci +17

      Mexico is in North American continent and Toyota sells the Hilux also the ford and chevrolet sell cheaper versions of the ranger and colorado, yes in Mexico a Diesel ranger is cheaper than a Maverick.

    • @bansheedearg
      @bansheedearg Před 10 měsíci +9

      Hilux is not available in the USA, the closest equivalent is the Tacoma; they are very close in specs.

    • @davidhollenshead4892
      @davidhollenshead4892 Před 10 měsíci +2

      The better models of American Pickup Trucks are still better work trucks than Toyota's trucks for several reasons: Toyota Frame Rust, Toyota's use of smaller & softer hardware, and support after eight years. Ford has taken the marker in Africa with their Ranger, which is not the same as the Ranger that Ford sold in the US...

    • @josephdominics5935
      @josephdominics5935 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@HIDHIFDB I saw mini pickup made by Nissan in Mexico. It was a diesel and it was shiny and brand new, looked great. Never seen one like that before. Shame we can't get those pickups. Wish we could get Mahindra in here.

  • @guitarnerd19
    @guitarnerd19 Před 7 měsíci +200

    I’ve been telling people and complaining about this for years lol. I’m so tired of full size trucks being so big that the tailgate needs to turn into a staircase

    • @BritonAD
      @BritonAD Před 7 měsíci +5

      True! We had to install a step to get in the F-350. I still have my Ranger.

    • @admez2680
      @admez2680 Před 6 měsíci +24

      People's egos have far outgrown their legs 🦵 They're willing to get altitude sickness to show us all up.

    • @ronn68
      @ronn68 Před 2 měsíci

      😂

    • @STSwhisperer
      @STSwhisperer Před 2 měsíci +3

      Lol! The hoods and grills are so absolutely massive for no apparent reason. No reason a pickup truck front end needs to be the size of an eighteen wheeler’ hood

    • @pleskbruce
      @pleskbruce Před 2 měsíci +2

      For some guys I think it makes them feel "Manly."

  • @joshuab738
    @joshuab738 Před 24 dny +2

    I miss my little S10, small enough to use every day but can still be used for work. I have seen a lot of large research parks and campuses now getting mini trucks from overseas and not registering them to replace what they used small pickups for in the past --- so is that really better for the environment.

  • @Possumn1138
    @Possumn1138 Před 26 dny +2

    I do miss my old 83 Mazda B-2000, it got 35 MPG fairly consistently as a drive to work truck.And shared many parts with a Ford courier of the same size.

  • @bottledcow8450
    @bottledcow8450 Před 10 měsíci +253

    To be fair, it wasn't an accident. Automakers lobbied for this to happen to they could get around the restrictions. That doesn't excuse the fact that the EPA went through with that, but it does mean that this can also be blamed on the manufacturers.

    • @JoeWayne84
      @JoeWayne84 Před 10 měsíci +15

      Oh yeah let’s blame the corporations for the regulations..
      Not the corrupt government regulators.

    • @chronovore7234
      @chronovore7234 Před 10 měsíci +67

      @@JoeWayne84 government regulators rarely do things without lobbyists whispering in their ears and lining their pockets. Who do you think spends millions on those lobbyists.

    • @JoeWayne84
      @JoeWayne84 Před 10 měsíci

      @@chronovore7234 oh so it’s not the fault of the corrupt regulators for being corrupt…
      It’s the people who bribe them are the real problem.
      Morons

    • @Jebbis
      @Jebbis Před 10 měsíci +38

      @@JoeWayne84oh you sweet summer child. The Corpos just write the regulations and hand them to the EPA to be enacted.

    • @JoeWayne84
      @JoeWayne84 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@Jebbis so why do we have regulators at all?

  • @mrbutcher4467
    @mrbutcher4467 Před 10 měsíci +118

    Happily, I'm not born yesterday, and I trust that the automakers dropped a ton of money on lobbyists to negotiate this CAFE to edge out small pickup trucks, primarily the Japanese vehicles. Revenge, coldly served, to the Japanese truck market that captivated Americans several decades ago.

    • @BOBXFILES2374a
      @BOBXFILES2374a Před 10 měsíci +5

      Good point.

    • @blepware
      @blepware Před 10 měsíci +22

      ironically corporations are why we cant have nice things

    • @joshmccoy1522
      @joshmccoy1522 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Well, they killed the Ford Ranger and Chevy S10 while they were at it. I liked both of those, too.

    • @BobyourUncle
      @BobyourUncle Před 10 měsíci +2

      Exactly!!

    • @spxram4793
      @spxram4793 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I think that is a fairly good approach at one part of the explanation ...

  • @toddberner9198
    @toddberner9198 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I could only imagine a BASIC compact pickup with a 1.5L 3 cylinder EcoBoost with minimal extras....would be great for utility

  • @jeffsaxton716
    @jeffsaxton716 Před 6 měsíci +4

    The old Ford Ranger/Mazda pickups were great for light duty use and daily drivers. I have a 1993 Mazda B4000 with 260,000 miles. I've fixed lots of things, but not the V6 engine. It still burns no oil and passes emissions inspection.

    • @Davidsavage8008
      @Davidsavage8008 Před 20 dny +1

      Mine also. 94 B4000 4x4 extended cab bought it new on Ford lot in Idaho. Best investment next to my children.😊

  • @Actheman1978
    @Actheman1978 Před 10 měsíci +638

    So basically the EPA is incentivizing less fuel efficiency. Amazing and somehow not shocking after everything we’ve seen recently.

    • @toyota4x4legend
      @toyota4x4legend Před 10 měsíci +16

      Of course they are... he does a good job of explaining it away as something to difficult to understand just like the EPA intends most people to do... at the end of the day its opposite bizarro world if it comes to a truth.

    • @101Volts
      @101Volts Před 10 měsíci +21

      Heck, my 1999 Chevrolet Suburban 6.5 TD was capable of 20 MPG easily. Stick it on the Highway long enough, I'm sure it would get 28 MPG at a consistent 60 MPH. It was slow and was a 6,500 pound vehicle, but it was strangely fuel efficient... And that was an 8 cylinder engine.

    • @chaos.corner
      @chaos.corner Před 10 měsíci +46

      Heavier vehicles = more fatalities too.

    • @glenwaldrop8166
      @glenwaldrop8166 Před 10 měsíci +12

      To be fair I'm getting the same fuel economy out of a 2009 Z71 4wd with a 5.3 as I get out of my 98 Ranger 4wd 3.0.
      I don't like the big trucks myself. I find myself in tight spaces often.

    • @blazingcookie9727
      @blazingcookie9727 Před 10 měsíci +22

      It makes sense. There's no reason that my 1994 Chevy pickup gets 13 mpg, but a brand new 2023 Silverado (with a 5.3) gets 16. You can't tell me in almost 30 years, a bump of a few mpg is all they achieved.

  • @AidanS99
    @AidanS99 Před 9 měsíci +97

    Sometimes I really hate when people don’t understand the consequences of their actions. The road to hell really is paved with good intentions.

    • @WaitWhatsMyName
      @WaitWhatsMyName Před 8 měsíci +9

      "They" know exactly what they are doing

    • @andrewgreeb916
      @andrewgreeb916 Před 8 měsíci +5

      Good intentions, like those people actually have any

    • @JohnMoses1897
      @JohnMoses1897 Před 8 měsíci +1

      This is known as "The Law of Unintended Consequences"
      Politician's & lawyer's ignore & don't care.

    • @thebestSteven
      @thebestSteven Před 8 měsíci +1

      "There are no such thing as solutions, only trade-offs." -Thomas Sowell

    • @matthewchavezm.b.s5503
      @matthewchavezm.b.s5503 Před 8 měsíci

      Its the monkey helping the fish by putting the fish safely in a tree where it will be safe. As humans, its all about the help. But most people are giving harmful help.

  • @rickwascher4730
    @rickwascher4730 Před 26 dny +2

    I've owned 3 Chevy S-10s. First 1 I had 13 years 2nd one for 9 and the 3rd one 10 years. Loved em all. Great gas mileage. Very dependable. Got a Santa Cruz now.

  • @Danilo111
    @Danilo111 Před 28 dny +3

    The graph says it all ... small trucks will be required to have very high fuel efficiency and big trucks will be allowed to have low fuel efficiency ... now, I want to hear the EPA's explanation for this crp

    • @NemoBlank
      @NemoBlank Před 3 dny

      The dealers make more money on a 70000 dollar truck. The EPA works for the government and the government works for tips.

  • @TheDanavanhuber
    @TheDanavanhuber Před 10 měsíci +415

    Imagine how fun a small pickup would be with the new engine tech combined with an actual small truck chassis

    • @TheMissingxtension
      @TheMissingxtension Před 10 měsíci +11

      You dont have to imagine, get you an s10 with a ls or inline 6. You would have a typhon, or maybe drop a 4.6 kia engine on a mazda

    • @tngtacticalmiata1219
      @tngtacticalmiata1219 Před 10 měsíci +45

      Like a 79 or 80 short bed regular cab Toyota pickup with a K-series with a 5-speed... That would basically be the perfect minitruck.... Nearly 200 horsepower and under 3000lbs with a USEABLE bed... A truck like that would sell like hotcakes.

    • @georgepruitt637
      @georgepruitt637 Před 10 měsíci +4

      You mean an "Interference Engine" that commits "Hari Kari" when timing jumps/breaks ????????????

    • @septembersurprise5178
      @septembersurprise5178 Před 10 měsíci +28

      @@tngtacticalmiata1219 My son and I have this discussion often. In my opinion a truck like that selling like hotcakes, while pleasing the customer, would cut into the more profitable large truck market. Lessening profits for the manufacturers and dealers.

    • @bradhurd6097
      @bradhurd6097 Před 10 měsíci +9

      You’d shoot your eye out kid.

  • @LuigiGodzillaGirl
    @LuigiGodzillaGirl Před 10 měsíci +436

    My dad was a farmer, so he had multiple vehicles depending on his needs. The one he drove the most a little red 1990 Nissan 5 speed manual with an extended cab. Its body was rusting and falling apart badly toward the end, but the engine was a trooper that reached 300,000 miles while never burning a drop of oil. It was also the most fuel efficient pickup in his fleet. They truly don’t make em like they used to.

    • @dakoderii4221
      @dakoderii4221 Před 10 měsíci +32

      Why make quality products that last? That's like a doctor healing their patient rather than treating the symptoms with drugs that cause more symptoms that need more drugs that cause more symptoms. Job security is most important!

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper Před 10 měsíci +12

      @@dakoderii4221 The funny thing is from a practicality standpoint, there is a certain threshold where ongoing treatments costs the doctor more because the patients might die before they can pay

    • @PremiumFuelOnly
      @PremiumFuelOnly Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@dakoderii4221 Are you saying a new Nissan pickup truck made today with increased safety features cant go 300K with proper maintenance?

    • @skullcrusherdestroyerofsouls
      @skullcrusherdestroyerofsouls Před 10 měsíci +3

      To be fair, these modern trucks haven't really existed long enough to actually verify whether or not they can last that long.

    • @RetroCaptain
      @RetroCaptain Před 10 měsíci +1

      I had one exactly like it.
      So reliable yet parts price was crazy compared to other brands.
      It kept rusting off expensive parts and after just buying it and $ and time invested. Yes very efficient and fast. 8 spark plugs 4 cyl. Toyota's weren't quite as peppy or efficient but not as rust prone.
      The current crop uses far too many flimsy dollar store quality interior control parts and the dealers will only offer entire $$$ control assembly when all you need is 2 x ¢¢ plastic knobs.
      The Armada is the closest to what the old Nissan used to be back then.
      Everything else is dollar store quality

  • @user-ul7fq8zw8o
    @user-ul7fq8zw8o Před 5 měsíci +4

    Huh? It makes no sense that a 1985 S-10 style truck with a modern engine would not get better fuel economy than anything three times bigger than it. It's absurd they give gigantic trucks a pass. I kinda thought it was the salesmen not pushing small trucks because they didn't get that fat commission check, so the manufacturers stopped making them. Thanks for explaining!

  • @NinjaMan47
    @NinjaMan47 Před měsícem +2

    I appreciate you giving a good explanation on why trucks seem to just keep getting bigger. I've been seeing a lot of moralizing and finger wagging about Americans buying big. It's not just buyers but also producers trying to conform to complicated government regulation.
    Even if someone just wanted a small light truck there are no options.

  • @thepianist7084
    @thepianist7084 Před 10 měsíci +515

    Those very small trucks in the 80s were very useful - especially for teenagers who did odd jobs such as mow yards, cleanup gutters, etc. etc. We used the heck out of these little trucks, which you could buy for a couple thousand or even like 1000 and we were pretty productive with them.

    • @Rick-the-Swift
      @Rick-the-Swift Před 9 měsíci +35

      Ah, back when teens were still expected to do manual labor...I remember those days...

    • @p.chuckmoralesesquire3965
      @p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 Před 9 měsíci

      boomer logic aside, the reason why car makers stopped making these is just like they stopped making the ford focus- because they can make boat loads more on massive $80K f150s. This has nothing to do with the "eViL EpA !!!! REEEEE" and more to do with capitalism LOL you dont see this kind of insane crap going on in Europe or China

    • @Devious_Reviews
      @Devious_Reviews Před 9 měsíci +14

      My lawn care guys and some cleaners bring the little trucks to work. It's all they need to carry the essentials ~ a lawnmower, hedger clippers, weedwhacker, toolbox, and a gas can. There's no reason to have seating for 8 and 100ft² of space. If that's the case, buy a van.

    • @thepianist7084
      @thepianist7084 Před 9 měsíci +26

      @@Rick-the-Swift Ha ha yes those were good days. However, I do want to acknowledge that even today there are a lot of teens that are out working hard -- I hire my friends 3 teenage boys to work my 2-acre property and these boys can work! I have seen others in our neighborhood out mowing, digging, trimming, etc; It gives me hope for the future.

    • @delucain
      @delucain Před 9 měsíci +32

      ​@@Rick-the-Swift Nothing has changed from those days except your memories. There were just as many slackers 1000 years ago, 100 years ago, 50 years ago. It's just a cognitive bias making you remember the "good" parts and not the "bad." And, there's a lot less incentive for teens to work now than there was 70-60 years ago (the time most people mean when they say "those days). Back then a summer job could enable a teenager to save enough money to pay for their entire college tuition, books, and meals for the coming year. Now, a summer job probably doesn't even pay enough to single semester's tuition at an instate university or community college.
      I'd also argue that forcing teens to do manual labor instead of focusing on education (high school, college, vocational training, or whatever) isn't a great use of their time. And, they're going to be stuck working for at least the next five decades of their life. Let them be kids and have fun for a couple years before the need to support themselves forces them into a lifetime of what is likely to be servitude to their corporate masters.

  • @theguy6245
    @theguy6245 Před 10 měsíci +556

    As someone who’s been wondering why trucks keep getting more massive this video was incredibly helpful

    • @AllCarswithJon
      @AllCarswithJon  Před 10 měsíci +42

      Glad to hear it. It's one piece of the puzzle that includes the Chicken Tax protectionism driving up prices, consumer demand, cheap gas, and lease deals that keep payments lower regardless of how they raise the prices.

    • @occamraiser
      @occamraiser Před 10 měsíci +11

      helpful? One sided? Opinionated? yes, helpful is in that list, but probably not at the top of it.

    • @KenzertYT
      @KenzertYT Před 10 měsíci +29

      @@occamraiser Did it help him find information he was seeking:
      Yes
      Does that mean he gets to list it as helpful:
      Yes
      Does that mean you get to change the reality of that situation:
      No
      Should you feel correct in your assessment:
      Fuck no

    • @jimmym3352
      @jimmym3352 Před 10 měsíci +3

      I've been a bit curious on that myself. Even my regular cab Tacoma (2012 regular cab 4cyl 4X4) is fairly big. Even worse they kept the same 4 cylinder engine they always used, so I am trying to push more weight with that small engine. It's a reliable engine though, I expect it to last me another 10 years for sure. The other question I have, is why they don't make regular cab pickups anymore. I was lucky to get my regular cab Tacoma. I don't want to give it up now because I don't think I'll be able to get another one. I want a pickup bed long enough to sleep in. And mine being 6'1" is just long enough for me.

    • @kmo9790
      @kmo9790 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@KenzertYT Nah. They are correct. Anyone with real knowledge on this issue would have immediately noted that this guy didn't mention 250/2500 and up models that are marketed toward consumers.

  • @christopherkenneally6015
    @christopherkenneally6015 Před měsícem +12

    Imagine that, the government getting involved ruined the market

    • @CynHicks
      @CynHicks Před 18 dny

      It's so unexpected right? 😂

  • @WaybackRewind
    @WaybackRewind Před 5 měsíci +1

    I love that you answered the question at 5 minutes. Subscribed.

  • @ClassicnKustoms
    @ClassicnKustoms Před 10 měsíci +173

    Down here in Brazil, those new “pick up” trucks such as F150s and Rams are considered trucks, because they got so big and heavy. And you even have to get a new type of license to drive it.

    • @jp-ui6qg
      @jp-ui6qg Před 10 měsíci +46

      looking at some of the idiots i see driving them up in Canada i have to agree with this. i cant count how many times i had some one not aware of the size of their truck go over their lane in to me. i rather drive next to tractor trailer then a 16yo in mommys f150

    • @WaverlyJava
      @WaverlyJava Před 10 měsíci +18

      ​@jp-ui6qg Same here in the US. These vehicles are way too big for backroads. I live in the middle of nowhere, and sometimes it's impossible to pass a modern f-150, Silverado, and god forbid Rams. I owned a regular cab, standard bed GMC sierra, and it was too big and got horrid gas mileage. I would WAY rather have a Civic or Camry. I wish Ford would bring back the Fusion.

    • @Fuzzybeanerizer
      @Fuzzybeanerizer Před 10 měsíci +1

      Where I work the company president and vice president have these huge "Super Duty" Ford F250 trucks. If you open up the hood you need a ladder to get up to an angle to see anything inside the engine compartment!

    • @Fuzzybeanerizer
      @Fuzzybeanerizer Před 10 měsíci

      @@WaverlyJava Ford dropped the Fusion? I don't keep track much, but last I remember that was a super highly regarded car.

    • @OnePieceSS23
      @OnePieceSS23 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@WaverlyJava The GMC Hummer EV makes me think exactly that, there's something wrong with that.

  • @steelblue8
    @steelblue8 Před 10 měsíci +396

    As an Australian, where smaller utes are still very much the go-to for pretty much any practical purpose, I had always wondered why the US just has such unreasonably large machines. This is a really interesting answer!

    • @konstantinosrope-maker1228
      @konstantinosrope-maker1228 Před 10 měsíci +16

      Now we're seeing all the big crewmans and trucks on our roads and all these freaking suvs. In Melbourne and even in QLD I see them more often!

    • @vibrantlightwc
      @vibrantlightwc Před 10 měsíci +12

      I was just visiting Australia (Melbourne, Sydney, Cairns) and it seems like the modern "small" Ford Ranger sized pickups are the most popular there. of course all considerably larger than their predecessors. I definitely didn't see as many big trucks as in America and I didn't see as many smaller utes as I would've liked. On a different note, it did make me jealous to see quite a few Suzuki Jimnys. Glad to see that little guy still getting some love in 2023.

    • @jaimemetcher388
      @jaimemetcher388 Před 10 měsíci +15

      @@vibrantlightwc We do still get treated to the quite laughable spectacle of people in high density housing buying outsize RAMs and Jeeps that physically won't fit in their parking garages. It's actually a topic of public debate here. Proposed solution? Of course! Make the parking spaces bigger! This is in a city where every inner city street is already permanently choked with the extra vehicles of three car families. I think we must have borrowed some lobbyists from the US.
      But yeah, go the Jimnys!

    • @britishrocklovingyank3491
      @britishrocklovingyank3491 Před 10 měsíci +22

      In the US big ole' trucks is an ego thing. Truck buyers here have no idea what what a useful truck is they just want it big so they feel manly.

    • @jimmym3352
      @jimmym3352 Před 10 měsíci +14

      @@britishrocklovingyank3491 And then put spacers to make their tires stick out even more. I've been on some narrow 4X4 roads I wouldn't want my truck to be any wider LOL. There's a huge cliff on one side. I'm not about to make my truck any wider.

  • @connorbloomfield2601
    @connorbloomfield2601 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Good to finally hear this angle. Thanks!

  • @Demante
    @Demante Před 7 měsíci +1

    I've been wondering about this for a while. Thanks!

  • @bosse641
    @bosse641 Před 10 měsíci +134

    I love the old small trucks. Simple mechanical trucks. Take me back!

    • @seththomas9105
      @seththomas9105 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I had a 84 S-10 Blazer 4X4 with a 5 speed, rubber floor, no A/C, it had power brakes and stearing and it was a GREAT TRUCK. The biggest drawback was the POS 2,8 V-6 that died when I got it hot and spun a barring at about 160K. I then bought a 87 Dakota 4X4 long box with the 3.9. The biggest drawback on that was the 3.9 was a dog and no O/D transmission, but it ran to almost 200K before the frame started to rust in two(IOWA). Two good trucks that I would love to have now.

    • @xerxespamplemousse6622
      @xerxespamplemousse6622 Před 10 měsíci +2

      But they pollute like crazy by modern standards. And weren't crash-worthy. And many models broke a lot.

    • @hayes831
      @hayes831 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@xerxespamplemousse6622
      not true for all.
      my early 80's Toyota pick-ups with 4 cylinders were clean as a whistle, and the most reliable vehicles I ever had.

  • @Reziac
    @Reziac Před 10 měsíci +49

    I can tell you here in the Northern Wastes, if someone offered a 2-door, bench-seat, long bed mini-pickup that's as durable as they used to be, the dealers wouldn't be able to keep it in stock.

  • @user-ue9io8mc3u
    @user-ue9io8mc3u Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks for this explanation. I've noticed it for a long time that each next generation of a model is generally larger than the previous generation. Now I see why. Thank you.

  • @shadetreemech290
    @shadetreemech290 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Yeah, I've got one of those Ford Ranger, four cylinder, five speed, two wheel drive, pick up truck. I get 33 miles per gallon. And I love it! It is a true sport utility vehicle.

  • @bonifer2000
    @bonifer2000 Před 9 měsíci +331

    I'll never give up my 1988 Toyota pickup. Great on gas, fun to drive, and easy to work on

    • @melvonnar1
      @melvonnar1 Před 9 měsíci +9

      they will bury me with my 1985 toyota pu----i will never sell it. runs like new only 220,000 miles and 0 oil use

    • @keithkeller377
      @keithkeller377 Před 9 měsíci

      Same with my 89 toyota long bed! Body shot but very reliable!! @@melvonnar1

    • @coryb8796
      @coryb8796 Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@melvonnar1I sold mine back in 2003, biggest mistake ever.

    • @poodymeiner3125
      @poodymeiner3125 Před 9 měsíci +6

      My cousin has an early 80s Toyota pickup as well. 3 engines and a few marriages later, it’s still going strong

    • @monkeysign123
      @monkeysign123 Před 9 měsíci +8

      I have a 1991 Toyota, 4 Cylinder, 2RE, over 360,000 miles on it. Yep, and I'm keeping it till I just can't drive anymore. I also have a 2000 Pre-Runner 4 Cylinder and a 2010 Forunner V-6, 4x4. I will never have to buy another vehicle again.

  • @niveknospmoht8743
    @niveknospmoht8743 Před 10 měsíci +148

    Been a mechanic for 40 years now and have worked on just about every car available through out those years. Had this same conversation with my wife over the weekend. Told her that if (say gm) built a truck a little bit larger than the Toyota Pick up with a fuel injected 4cyl and a 5 speed would sell the crap out of them. What brought this up was that I was working on a 2012 GM 2500 ex-cab 4x4 HD the other day. That truck weighs close to 9000 lbs. Had to stand on a 24'' high platform and still had to lay on the core support and stretch out as far as I could to reach the rear spark plus. My truck (1968 GMC) with a big block, (4350 lbs) I can stand flat on my feet and change all of them without exerting myself. Funny thing is....your example...('84 toyota pickup) 2.4 carbureted ..mine is the same, only an x-tra cab, and is my daily get around town vehicle. 22-24 mpg without even trying. I get asked all the time if I want to sell it.

    • @HIDHIFDB
      @HIDHIFDB Před 10 měsíci +4

      They make that truck friend and sell them for less than 25k usd is called S10 max but is only for mexican market

    • @mojavedesertsonorandesert9531
      @mojavedesertsonorandesert9531 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Still driving my 88 Toyota truck, keep it in excellent condition. People asking me to sell all the time...

    • @Argedis
      @Argedis Před 10 měsíci +3

      Love my 01 Tacoma. Even though it's small there is so much working room and everything is easy to access. Such simple trucks

    • @tiredman99
      @tiredman99 Před 10 měsíci +7

      And the sad thing is, that truck will likely run forever as long as you take care of it, where as if you bought a new truck it would probably need something fixed at least once a year

    • @MrCurbinator
      @MrCurbinator Před 10 měsíci +2

      I’m Napoleon sized and worked in auto glass. Shop got alot of entertainment out of watching me do a running leap into the engine complete with superman plank on the block just to get the cowl off in a timely manner

  • @almondsnackbar4969
    @almondsnackbar4969 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Good analysis. Same family owned 1988 ranger 4x4 v6 5speed. 425k miles and still gets it done. Easy to fix and only 27 mpg.

  • @ryanscott1989
    @ryanscott1989 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I miss my 99 Chevy S-10 2wd 4cl with the 5 speed. It had over 300,000 miles with original engine and transmission when i sold it. I purchased it from the original owner who used it to drive to work. It was so slow and not great in the winter here in Michigan. I put 400-600 pounds of bags of sand in the rear and never had an issue. Drove it 70+ miles 6 days a week to work. Even in a snow storm with over a foot of snow.

  • @dodgeman338
    @dodgeman338 Před 10 měsíci +127

    The little Toyota single cab stick shift diesel pickups we're absolutely awesome. Got great mileage. Super reliable. Very simple. I wish they would bring them back

    • @ElizabethGreene
      @ElizabethGreene Před 10 měsíci +9

      I saw one of these with a Kubota agricultural diesel engine swap in it. That truck will still be going fifty years from now.

    • @ahamsandwich588
      @ahamsandwich588 Před 10 měsíci +1

      And I absolutely could this videos of more than a little bit of BS. A Cummins could have easily gotten him at 48 mph. On top of that you could just increase the wheelbase it's not hard. Triple on top of all of this, you could just put smaller engines an already existing. This guy is loosing the forest though the trees

    • @InvidiousIgnoramus
      @InvidiousIgnoramus Před 10 měsíci

      If you think the regulations here are bad, start looking into why we don't have smaller trucks with diesels anymore.

    • @barefoofDr
      @barefoofDr Před 10 měsíci

      I had that exact truck and put 450,000 miles on it.

  • @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
    @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns Před 7 měsíci +475

    I'm Australian and I have always been baffled at the prevalence of these massive trucks in America. Smaller trucks and utilities are just more affordable and versatile.

    • @thedavidboyd
      @thedavidboyd Před 7 měsíci +22

      I think so too. I would love to have a small truck. I have no need for a large truck but a small one would be perfect for my use cases. Unfortunately, the EPA disagrees.

    • @ChrisSmith-bh2hg
      @ChrisSmith-bh2hg Před 7 měsíci +17

      I'm also Australian. All of our utes are getting replaced by pick ups. I hate going to the car park now.

    • @MoisesAguirre-uv4oy
      @MoisesAguirre-uv4oy Před 7 měsíci

      This video is a huge lie. This guy wants to act like we don’t know Ford and GM bribed republicans like Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan to pass standards that would ban Japanese competitors without violating WTO agreements

    • @ericsparks
      @ericsparks Před 7 měsíci +2

      Not always.

    • @BGraves
      @BGraves Před 7 měsíci +39

      Let's be real. Most American men see the size of their truck as a part of their identity. Utility isn't that important to them, which is why you see so many shiny ball hitches and unscratched beds and receiver hitches. Also, most of the utility is lost by the dual cab and the chest high tailgates.
      Utility trailer does everything a truck does, anyway

  • @davidwelty9763
    @davidwelty9763 Před 2 měsíci +3

    This was well explained. Thank you.

  • @davidshettlesworth1442
    @davidshettlesworth1442 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you Jon. Well done Sir! Carry On!

  • @AlmadenJeff
    @AlmadenJeff Před 10 měsíci +68

    The flip side to CAFE is that vehicles are getting bigger, thus heavier. This means more wear and tear on roads requiring more maintenance which costs cities, counties, and states more money (really taxpayer).

    • @jayjaynella4539
      @jayjaynella4539 Před 10 měsíci +12

      More repair of roads generates even more pollution by unregulated polluting road machinery.

    • @graywolf2694
      @graywolf2694 Před 10 měsíci +1

      And they suck to drive

    • @bschultz7390
      @bschultz7390 Před 10 měsíci

      Exactly!

    • @Tibbs_Farm
      @Tibbs_Farm Před 10 měsíci +1

      Going green(back)... as in it is just a means to make your greenbacks start going to the government

    • @ianbelanger7459
      @ianbelanger7459 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Not to let facts get in the way of a good story, but non-commercial trucks don't impact roadways more then cars when compared to tractor-trailers (passenger vehicles including pickup trucks are in the same category for road and bridge wear). Companies were always going to game the systems and the CAFE standard has consistently delivered better fuel economy. It was the NOx and other environmental controls that made little 4-cylinder engines in small trucks uneconomical.

  • @curtgomes
    @curtgomes Před 9 měsíci +200

    In 1983 I bought a new Isuzu. I drove it for 15 years. It was a great truck. It came at a time in my life when money was extremely tight. It was 100% reliable and helped me in so many ways. It got really good mileage....

  • @jimmyclaxton6763
    @jimmyclaxton6763 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I own a 1989 Mazda B2200 pickup. I bought new in 89. I love that truck and I still drive it. I have wondered for years why they don’t make small trucks anymore. I believe there is a big market for small trucks.

    • @richardthompson6366
      @richardthompson6366 Před 2 měsíci

      Way back when I had an 86 Mazda B2000, 4cyl manual 5speed with the long box, loved that truck.

  • @sicantreis
    @sicantreis Před 7 měsíci

    This is a great video, thanks for the information!

  • @richardjones9282
    @richardjones9282 Před 10 měsíci +263

    I remember in the mid 1980’s those small trucks were advertised on TV for around $5,500.00. It’s crazy to look back at how affordable those trucks were.

    • @ElizabethGreene
      @ElizabethGreene Před 10 měsíci +20

      The Wuling Zhengtu is under $10k. If GM sold those here at that price, they'd be the #1 truck on the road.

    • @tranger4579
      @tranger4579 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Bought my ranger for 10,000 around 98

    • @tylertrego1276
      @tylertrego1276 Před 10 měsíci +5

      ​@tranger4579 if they sold a truck even double that price now it would be a steal.

    • @-__-_-_--__--_-__-_____--_-___
      @-__-_-_--__--_-__-_____--_-___ Před 10 měsíci +17

      $5500 in 1989 is equal to $13533 in 2023 by inflation alone

    • @chublez
      @chublez Před 10 měsíci +6

      ​@tranger4579 98 Ranger msrp was $11,995-20k adjusted to 2023 that's $22,452-37,436. New Rangers start at $27,400 which is admitted about $2,600 more 1998 dollars than they used to start.
      I think if you park a pristine 1998 ranger next to a 2023 ranger and tell me I can have either the 98 for free or the 23 for $5k I'll buy the 23 all day. It's easily twice the truck. Has features that didn't exist in 98, makes more power than the f150 of the day, uses less fuel than many of the cars of the day, safer than just about anything from a quarter century ago, and while you head and the sand guys will doubt it to yer graves modern vehicles are in general leagues more trouble free and reliable than that junk y'all got rose tinted glasses for. The reason you could "fix it easy with a simple screwdriver" is cause you had too, constantly, nearly from day 3.

  • @mapquestHs
    @mapquestHs Před 10 měsíci +261

    I would totally buy a basic little truck! I want crank down windows and a 5 speed manual. Had a base model hardbody and it was one of the best trucks that I’ve owned. Simple = less problems

    • @drjohnsonhungwell5115
      @drjohnsonhungwell5115 Před 10 měsíci +9

      I like them too I have my father's 91 Nissan hardbody 4 cyl with 131,000 miles and it's the perfect daily driver and errand runner , they'd probably sell them fast if they made those simple economical trucks again.

    • @xscorpx
      @xscorpx Před 10 měsíci +7

      ​@@drjohnsonhungwell5115where do you live because those all rusted away years ago in the northeast, reliable or not the rust killed them.

    • @drjohnsonhungwell5115
      @drjohnsonhungwell5115 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@xscorpx Southwest Georgia and the truck has been in Georgia it's whole life has zero rust a laser straight body and completely stock and unmolested .

    • @drjohnsonhungwell5115
      @drjohnsonhungwell5115 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@xscorpx My D21 hardbody has the KA24E automatic column shift swb AC, PS, PB burgundy interior velour seats and carpet but radio and tachometer delete I'm going to give it a restoration it would take very little just a repaint other than that it's in great shape .

    • @thomasmcmullen4523
      @thomasmcmullen4523 Před 10 měsíci +9

      Another reason they don't want you to fix them yourselfs.

  • @rebelbatdave5993
    @rebelbatdave5993 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks! Just PURE Madness!

  • @UnicornMeat512
    @UnicornMeat512 Před měsícem +1

    Fascinating. Thanks for the explanation

  • @Darkmattermonkey77
    @Darkmattermonkey77 Před 10 měsíci +149

    The S10 my mom had in the 90’s was amazing. It had the tow package and we used to beat the heck out of it with winter wood hauls (typically 3X trips with the leaf springs flattened out). Never batted an eye engine or transmission wise. Plus, we used it to take trips on spring break to visit family in other states and it would easily get 38-40 mpg. Miss that little truck.

    • @BromanP47
      @BromanP47 Před 10 měsíci +18

      There's no way that truck would get 38-40mpg. They were advertised as getting up to 30mpg by 1999, which means you probably maxed out at around 25mpg on the highway.

    • @vittoriovuocolo2438
      @vittoriovuocolo2438 Před 10 měsíci +11

      38-40 mpg if you drive it off a cliff.

    • @ArcConAK
      @ArcConAK Před 10 měsíci +3

      The 90s and 80s model was ok but the early 2000's with the vortec 4.3 and stick shift were really reliable trucks. I guess a older s10 with the 2.8 and stick shift could get good gas mileage but DANG that's alot of mpg.

    • @TheRainHarvester
      @TheRainHarvester Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@BromanP47my big 2022 4 cyl Tacoma gets 28mpg on the highway.

    • @BromanP47
      @BromanP47 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@TheRainHarvester Yeah, that's believable. But in 1990 and before, those trucks were not built to the standard we have today, hence the argument that Obama's policies have actually been a success for increasing fuel efficiency

  • @csiny88
    @csiny88 Před 10 měsíci +223

    Mexico has a very important small truck market (smaller than the Ford Maverick), like the Renault Oroch, the VW Saveiro, the Chevrolet S10 Max, the RAM 700 and others. They sell really well and are very versatile.

    • @rrteppo
      @rrteppo Před 9 měsíci +21

      Time to buy a car in Mexico then transfer it up to Arizona. Ty I have wanted a small truck for so long up here.

    • @nunyabusnas9865
      @nunyabusnas9865 Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@rrteppo I'm with you there. Lots of vehicles and parts are made there anyway.

    • @mustachio2
      @mustachio2 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@rrteppo What would the logistics of that actually be? Wouldn't it be nearly impossible due to the chicken tax?

    • @justotorres8970
      @justotorres8970 Před 9 měsíci +6

      They sell a diesel Ford ranger in Mexico. Supposedly gets good fuel economy and very reliable . It also comes without the bull crap emissions parts that is the main problem with diesel engines here in the states .

    • @berettaboi
      @berettaboi Před 9 měsíci +6

      you almost need to sneak the vehicle past border protection services, and then switch the VIN on the vehicle with a truck that is available in the present market- to "legally" register it...the are forms to fill out and restrictions on allowable imports.

  • @awh5773
    @awh5773 Před 2 měsíci +3

    i really miss my 1977 Datsun 620 truck. it would cost $13.00 to fill it up to the gas cap , and i could go from just north of Dallas Texas all the way down to Houston Texas and once i got there i still had an 8th of a tank to run around on. i really miss that truck

  • @nedludd7622
    @nedludd7622 Před 3 měsíci +2

    There were inexpensive small pickups with the Datsun(Nissan)brand back in the 60's and 70's. I bought a used 60's Datsun 520(I think) in the 70's. It was in a supermarket parking lot with a For Sale sign and didn't have a windshield.
    The owner came by and we discussed it. I started it up and drove it a little, everything seemed fine. So I bought it for two hundred dollars and drove it home not far away. Then I went to a junk yard and bought a windshield which I installed myself(that was easy back then). I drove it for years with only one problem, a driveshaft coupling later had to be replaced--no problem. It ran great.

  • @beringstraitrailway
    @beringstraitrailway Před 10 měsíci +39

    "This is why can't have nice things!"
    Or more specifically:
    This is why we can't have nice things
    on a smaller scale!

    • @northdakotaham1752
      @northdakotaham1752 Před 10 měsíci +5

      The most terrifying words spoken on the planet. "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

  • @DiamondDustVIII
    @DiamondDustVIII Před 10 měsíci +173

    I bought an imported 1998 Suzuki Jimny because it ticked all the boxes for me that simply are not available in the US anymore. So far I’ve been quite pleased with it, and I’m really considering just importing whatever I want from now on instead of settling for paying extra for a bunch of extra stuff I don’t want or need.

    • @septembersurprise5178
      @septembersurprise5178 Před 10 měsíci +3

      How many years old must a vehicle be before importation?

    • @DiamondDustVIII
      @DiamondDustVIII Před 10 měsíci +12

      @@septembersurprise5178 25 years since the date of manufacture.

    • @HIDHIFDB
      @HIDHIFDB Před 10 měsíci +6

      Its funny that is 25 years in the us in mexico is 10 years, so in 2048 you could get a mexican Jimny?

    • @greggc8088
      @greggc8088 Před 10 měsíci

      They are not road legal in my state.

    • @MrLM002
      @MrLM002 Před 10 měsíci +1

      So... you'll only be buying 25 year old vehicles...

  • @JoeyShip
    @JoeyShip Před 27 dny +2

    I think that if car manufacturers came out with a sub $25k pickup (OTD), something like the old s10 or Ranger from the late 90s, they would be massive hits. Perfect for the city. Perfect for first vehicles for college students and working late-high school students. Great secondary vehicles for modest homeowners who don’t need $70-$80k trucks. Yes the immediate cost would be substantial because there are no real platforms for them in the US, but after that the manufacturing would be cheap.
    I wonder if a standard bed that can be extended to a long bed, but the extension can be easily removed by the owner, is a possible cheat code here…like those fold down style extensions..?

  • @robthomas3664
    @robthomas3664 Před měsícem +1

    I had an '87 S-10, bought new. It was as basic a truck one could get then; reg. Cab, 4 Cyl, 4 spd manual, bench seat, no radio, no A/C, crank windows, short bed.
    In '91, I traded it in for a Sonoma. Not quite so basic, but just a minor upgrade.
    The S-10 was a decent truck, but I LOVED that sonoma. Ended up trading that one in for a 7.3 Powerstroke F-250.
    I don't regret getting the F-250, but I DO regret getting rid of the Sonoma...

  • @SmallSpoonBrigade
    @SmallSpoonBrigade Před 10 měsíci +88

    My dad has a '95 Chevy S10 with the extended cab, and he's been noticing that when that truck dies, there's likely to be nothing comparable to buy. Either they've got a tiny bed, or they're just absolutely massive trucks. Even the ones that appear to have the similar length and width are extremely tall.
    For how often he uses it to haul things, he'd probably be better off just renting a truck for the day, but owning one is likely to not be an option in the future if nothing changes.

    • @TeakKey7
      @TeakKey7 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Kei truck hehe. Slow as christmas but dang they're cheap. Under $5000 depending on shipping

    • @fritzthecat9451
      @fritzthecat9451 Před 10 měsíci +9

      Undercoat it, keep throwing motors and transmissions at it.

    • @filthyfrankblack4067
      @filthyfrankblack4067 Před 10 měsíci

      He probaly having trouble because of the ethenol in the gasoline. It eats away at older vehicles.

    • @brym4467
      @brym4467 Před 10 měsíci

      yea the only thing comparable is a car with a truck bed like the Hyundai santa cruz and god knows how long that thing will last lol and cant tow or pull worth a crap = (

    • @guruoo
      @guruoo Před 10 měsíci

      Restomod it. Plenty of parts still available, both original, and updated, so you don't have to ever let it die. You can make it better than a new truck. Search youtube, there's oodles of how-tos on the subject.

  • @Nidhoggrr
    @Nidhoggrr Před 9 měsíci +197

    I'm pretty sure these "standards" are also there to completely crush the foreign market for small trucks (aka literally all trucks from Japan). I live in a rural area and almost everyone has one of those small Japanese "mini trucks" now that they are legal to import.

    • @guildrich
      @guildrich Před 9 měsíci +22

      *_"...now that they are legal to import."_*
      And rescinding in 3,2,1,...

    • @Nidhoggrr
      @Nidhoggrr Před 9 měsíci +12

      @@lunarvvolf9606 What gets me is the prices for vehicles that used to be cheaper cars for the working person, that are now selling in the same ranges as luxury brands but they are still just normal cars.

    • @goosenotmaverick1156
      @goosenotmaverick1156 Před 9 měsíci +3

      ​@@guildrichloads of them have fallen outside the 25 year rule for safety requirements, they've become very common. For 10k or less in most of the US, you can obtain one with the necessary paperwork to title in the states that allow them to be titled as regular vehicles. In my state they can be registered really easy as farm vehicles but have limitations to speed and travel range. They also allow them to be registered as regular vehicles here as well.

    • @xzqzq
      @xzqzq Před 9 měsíci

      Cute little things. Wouldn't mind trying one.

    • @goosenotmaverick1156
      @goosenotmaverick1156 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@xzqzq if you can get used to being on the wrong side of the truck, they're handy to have! Especially if you're in a state that's willing to give them a conventional registration. Less expensive than a side by side, but they do have their hindrances, if you're not willing or capable of working on it yourself, maintenance and repairs can be difficult to go about, even finding parts can be iffy. But they can be had, and they can be pheasible for some folks. I personally have been keeping an eye out for one in my area for the right one. My boss bought a terrible one and ended up getting rid of it because he didn't quite fit, he's like 6'2"

  • @NothinsM
    @NothinsM Před 10 dny +1

    My first car was a rusted out 98 s10. I miss that thing so much

  • @whogavehimafork
    @whogavehimafork Před 13 dny +1

    Even with full size trucks the weight has increased a significant amount. I have a short bed 89 Dodge D-150 with a 318 V8 in it and it weighs around 3500-3800 pounds.
    A brand new base model regular cab Ram is a minimum of 1500 pounds heavier.

  • @rnt45t1
    @rnt45t1 Před 10 měsíci +112

    My dad had a S15 in the 90s. He bought it new in 89, I think. He loved that truck. He had a yahoo smash into him on our street doing burnouts, and he rebuilt the entire front end. He built a cap for it BY HAND out of sheetmetal. He LOVED THAT TRUCK.

    • @jasoncarpp7742
      @jasoncarpp7742 Před 10 měsíci +6

      I remember trucks like the Chevy S10 and GMC S15 and SUV versions. I was way too young at the time they were intro'd. But I thought they were awesome vehicles.

    • @donaldgregg9250
      @donaldgregg9250 Před 10 měsíci

      What kind of cap?

    • @josephsmith3785
      @josephsmith3785 Před 10 měsíci +3

      I have a 93 S-10 that is my back and forth to work/take off the garbage truck right now.

    • @cdjhyoung
      @cdjhyoung Před 10 měsíci +3

      I had a series of S 10 and S 15 pickups in the 80's, 90's and 00's. Maybe the strangest was a former fleet S-15 with a 1.9L Isuzu diesel engine and five speed. It accelerated like a loaded gravel train and seldom could exceed 70 mph, but every tank of fuel went about 52 mile per gallon over the 100,000 miles I drove that old worn out truck. it would not be for everyone. It almost got me killed on the freeways of Detroit trying to drive in rush hour traffic. It really needed a turbo charger to give it about 20 more horsepower (it only had 58 when new). A small pick up is possible if designed well, but if more than one manufacturer tried to enter the market, I don't thin there would be enough buyers to support two different makers.

    • @martinoamello3017
      @martinoamello3017 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I worked in several body shops back when those S-10s were everywhere. Pretty amazing just how fast I could strip the entire front ends of them down to the frame with just a 1/4" air ratchet.. Somewhere around 5 per week including all the new panels and parts and reassembly..and paint.. Out the door..whoosh! 😅
      One shop built an extra building just to stock S10 body parts and nothing else..

  • @davidfitnesstech
    @davidfitnesstech Před 10 měsíci +58

    My dad has had nothing *but small trucks for decades.* And until I saw this video, I hadn't even noticed they weren't around anymore !
    Wild.

    • @jgstargazer
      @jgstargazer Před 10 měsíci +1

      Me too. I just realized that I haven't seen them on the road like I used to. I should of bought one when I had the chance. Don't have much around the house but you can't haul anything in a car.

  • @lgrantnelson2863
    @lgrantnelson2863 Před 2 měsíci +1

    About 5 years ago I was needing a truck, but didn't have a lot of money, so I found a 1998 Nissan Frontier 5 speed manual rear wheel drive. Had to do some fixing up but it runs and passes DEQ. It has a weak cylinder and doesn't go uphill very well. I checked the gas mileage once on the freeway and it got 27 mpg. I do my own work to save money.
    Had a 1970 Datsun pickup that was smaller with a slightly longer bed, years ago. I still see some around.
    Now I know why the Frontier larger than the Datsun.
    Thanks.

  • @jack.b.nimble7446
    @jack.b.nimble7446 Před 2 dny

    Jon, I have wondered for a long time what was going on. Great video and thanks for the explanation. How could we get it so wrong. Well done.

  • @GeneralChangOfDanang
    @GeneralChangOfDanang Před 10 měsíci +62

    That explains why we're getting these huge trucks with tiny engines and no towing capacity.

    • @justinpennington7682
      @justinpennington7682 Před 10 měsíci +7

      The towing capacities are actually rated so high I would be afraid to attempt the max . 14k lbs in a half ton truck . No thanks

    • @misterbulger
      @misterbulger Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@justinpennington7682even 7k feels too much in a half ton to me even though it's "rated" for twice that Maybe rated to do it once or twice before you need to buy a new truck lol. I sure wouldn't recommend maxing it out.

    • @blackhawk7r221
      @blackhawk7r221 Před 10 měsíci +5

      The towing is easy. The stopping is hard.

    • @justinpennington7682
      @justinpennington7682 Před 10 měsíci

      @@misterbulger yes sir!

    • @cornholio114
      @cornholio114 Před 10 měsíci

      @@blackhawk7r221that’s why trailers have brakes

  • @user-bb9jv9kv3e
    @user-bb9jv9kv3e Před 10 měsíci +66

    In Mexico they use and sell those very small trucks with 4 cylinder diesel engines. They're very economical and very strong trucks.

    • @sumblwnup8695
      @sumblwnup8695 Před 10 měsíci +9

      Toyota hilux with its diesel engine is one I want to have but can’t here in the U.S, it’s as expensive as the Toyota Tacoma I think even with the chicken tax so it may be worth getting it

    • @codyofathens3397
      @codyofathens3397 Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@sumblwnup8695are you allowed to buy one in Mexico and bring it into the US?

    • @sumblwnup8695
      @sumblwnup8695 Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@codyofathens3397 i think so, i know there’s a hilux in the U.S somewhere that’s being driven legally, i think they don’t sell it because it would take away from the tacoma, even tho the tacoma is also sold in mexico

    • @ralan350
      @ralan350 Před 10 měsíci +4

      EPA is trying to kill diesels here as well

    • @22addict40
      @22addict40 Před 10 měsíci +3

      There’s plenty of hilux’s here in the USA. I don’t know what or how you get them, haven’t tried or looked very hard, but whistling diesel has a few of them and others have videos of theirs. Something worth looking into. Heck even if it costs less than a Maverick let’s say then it would be worth the price. Toyota and a diesel, you can’t beat that for a SMALL truck.🙏🏻🇺🇸💯🤙🏻

  • @Hungry_Tree_Ghost
    @Hungry_Tree_Ghost Před 6 měsíci +1

    I just sold my '94 4wd Chevy S10 with an 8ft bed, extended cab with the flip down seats, 4.3L Vortec 6 cylinder engine in 2018. Had it for 16 years. It'd fit ATVs and dirt bikes in them just fine. Didn't have to angle the dirt bikes. When I'd put the bed cap on it, it was perfect for a man and his dog to sleep in when up north in the woods. Got me everywhere as a teenager/young man. Pretty impressed with the 4wd with good tires, though i never went looking for trouble, but only looked to get out of trouble when it was found. I was sad to get rid of it, but it was time. Now I've got a '17 5.0L V8 Crewcab F150 with 6.5' bed. Yes I've absolutely loved it, and have done lots of things with it with no trouble including pulling trailers through the Appalachians just passing through, but two things bugs me. One is the 6.5' bed. Bugs me you have to lean plywood and other lumber on the tailgate, or put the tailgate down and strap the lumber. Don't know about dirt bikes, but i have to slam the gate shut on my banshee rear tires to get the gat to close. On my utility ATV, the gate has to be down. The other thing that bugs me is the size of the truck makes it cumbersome to drive down some 2-tracks and trails in northern Michigan. That was one of my favorite things to do in the S10 when up north - just exploring. It's still a favorite pastime up north, but now i have to watch my mirrors, and lengthen my turns in tight spots.
    With that said, i thought the new ranger was going to be a small truck like the 90s. Like you said, it was the size of an older V8 truck. Not impressed.

  • @dabig_guy2204
    @dabig_guy2204 Před měsícem +1

    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @pgbpro20
    @pgbpro20 Před 10 měsíci +161

    Ah, the old "unintentional-intentional consequences" game.
    It's also interesting how frequently emission systems failures will total out cars these days. From direct-injection, variable valve profiles, to cylinder deactivation and DEF -- every move forward for tailpipe emissions is a step back for reliability.

    • @donaldcarey114
      @donaldcarey114 Před 10 měsíci

      There is NOTHING unintentional about it, it is part of the plan to force us to switch to EV's.

    • @happyfireballman9633
      @happyfireballman9633 Před 10 měsíci +2

      You know these things were made to make vehicles more efficient with the fuel they're given with?
      Without these technologies, we would have more fuel wasted

    • @EagleXYZLibertarianForChrist
      @EagleXYZLibertarianForChrist Před 10 měsíci +28

      @@happyfireballman9633
      1. they don't even have any real noticeable mpg increases.
      2. they are far less reliable. Meaning due to the fact they help with planned obsolescence; it means you're going to have to buy another vehicle which means more emissions are used to create another vehicle for you to buy. If my 20+yr old truck can out last your 5yr old or newer vehicle, then my truck is much more emission friendly than your electric car.

    • @donaldcarey114
      @donaldcarey114 Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@happyfireballman9633 COPIUM

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Před 10 měsíci +10

      And then there's all the safety and emissions standards driving fuel efficiency down. My dad drove a 79 VW Sirocco that got mileage as good or better than a Prius, and it was lighter and way less complicated with a simple 4-cylinder water-cooled engine and a manual transmission. Plus, unlike the Prius, you didn't look like a total dork driving around in the Sirocco.

  • @gregdolecki8530
    @gregdolecki8530 Před 10 měsíci +46

    I bought a 1986 S-10 in 1986. It had the 2.8L six cylinder engine, one of GM's best. I drove that thing for 270,000 miles. I still miss that truck.

    • @Shaker626
      @Shaker626 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Had the same 2.8 in an '86 Cavalier a while ago. Thing would easily break traction if I gassed it too hard! Torque-y motor for sure.

  • @Webhead123
    @Webhead123 Před 14 dny +1

    I used to have a manual trans, 2-seater '99 Ford Ranger and I loved it. Sadly, it got totaled in a traffic accident around 2009 or so and I've never been able to find a decent replacement for it.

  • @4by_yotaguy373
    @4by_yotaguy373 Před měsícem +1

    Very well explained educational video. Thank you!

  • @terrencekanzig4270
    @terrencekanzig4270 Před 10 měsíci +107

    My dad had Datsun pickups in the 70’s and loved them. He’s always asking why they can’t make small pickups like that anymore. Now I can explain it to him.

    • @reverendbarker650
      @reverendbarker650 Před 10 měsíci +3

      They were not only death traps , but were under powered, also, if you had a heavy load on back their steering was abominable.

    • @loki_wolff
      @loki_wolff Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@reverendbarker650 but they were cool and thats all that matters

    • @trevormiles5852
      @trevormiles5852 Před 10 měsíci +4

      the law of unintended consequences ; These small trucks were bought up and sent to middle east in 80s. The Datsun in particular was favored. Strong, low center of gravity. Easy to mount guns on back while keeping a low profile. Next time you watch news or old 70s, 80s movies you will see all those small trucks. Had to add, Toyota Tundra long bed. best of the older trucks. More bed space than most new trucks..

    • @Rick-the-Swift
      @Rick-the-Swift Před 9 měsíci

      @@trevormiles5852 Exactly. Go to any Middle Eastern country you will see the streets filled with these small pickups, and as you say, often with armed guerilla soldiers or gun mounts in the back.

    • @trevormiles5852
      @trevormiles5852 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@zebrazxx Just be grateful that the acronym was CAFE and not STARBUCKS LOL. I agree with you, they could have dumbed it down a little bit more. Blaming it on government has gotten old. If somebody from the CAFE who can make this more of a Bistro and fast food we need to hear from you. The gist I got was Tlhat the government wanted us to have bigger trucks cause the use more gas.

  • @shaidyn8278
    @shaidyn8278 Před 10 měsíci +93

    I'm very glad this video crossed my path. About 6 months ago I started looking for a truck to do dump runs, and in my head, I was envisioning those small trucks from the 80s and I was confused why I couldn't find them. Now I know!

  • @SWells679
    @SWells679 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks for this explanation, Jon. I learned something.

  • @chriscosby2459
    @chriscosby2459 Před 23 dny +1

    Seven years ago I was looking for a small truck with 4 cylinder and a manual 5 speed. There were not as many out there as I thought. I finally found a 98 Tacoma, it has been a good little truck. About all you find anymore are old Tacomas and Rangers.