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What i expect from top tier SPAA: Improved launch-and-forget AA missles which can ignore flare What i get from top tier SPAA: more manual control which most likely to work when the target is ignorant of the incoming danger. Another banger from Grass Molester Malzi
Because we dont have true BWR yet in game, missiles are not going pitbull wich would come closest to fire & forget to a degree, top tier missiels in game feel really janky & random.
@@DerDrecksack87 There pretty much is no self contained SPAA vehicle that has active radar missiles in service. Command RF guidance for something like SHORAD makes way more sense since you're going to be firing a lot of them and they need to be small and cheap. The only short range active radar missile air defense system is NASAMS and that's because they just stuck an AIM-120 on a ground launcher
@@signs80 I was not just talking about SHORAD, the Patriot PAC3 and the S400/S500 systems all have fire & forget active radar guided missiles, sure they are hooked up in datalink with a radar but the missiles still go pitbull after fired if they lose radar lock from the ground station. They should add them in game, probably will at one point or make the 11.0-11.7 AA use fire & forget missiles like the Strela for gameplay reasons and limit the amount of simultanious spawnable AA to balance it or whatnot.
@@DerDrecksack87 They have said themselves they won't do SPAA like that because there is not really a feasible way to do it. S-300 and Patriot type systems need at minimum 3-4 different vehicles working together in order to actually function. IR missiles like the strela have shorter range than RF command guided missiles so they won't be particularly useful when enemy aircraft have 20km range guided TV missiles.
@@signs80 yeah and thats the issue with modern stuff, Gaijin either introduces new AA that outranges CAS or they introduce CAS that outranges AA in rotation year after year. The truth is there is no balance to be made, these systems were made as a response & to outdue each other irl aka the arms race. If they want to balance them they would have to artificially change the numbers to equal each others ranges between AA & jets, but then both communities would throw a tantrum again and downvote on steam. So gaijin is kinda in a hard place, do they want to keep it as it is (wich they wont as new stuff is coming especially for planes+new premiums are needed for funding) or try to expand on the game to allow for more modern & potent stuff, same story as with naval that is stuck in the WW2 battleship era and no real anti ship missiles on modern ships are in sight, because those would not work on the small maps we have, same as BWR with jets & long range air to air missiles like hypersonics, yet i also doubt they would make versions of existing maps 10x bigger just for top tier. I have no idea how they will do this when inevitably more ordnance & newer versions of jets come in, only in ground RB is somehow managable to have the new stuff fighting though those maps are antiquated too.
Gaijin say byself , Tor 1 is Not good …. Bad Statistic etc … the biggest mistake from Gaijin was the nerf by Release , missle by Release 850m per sec. on the dev Server was ca. 1250m per sec
@@JordanMeadows-g1z Eh, kinda questionable decision. Tor got very short range and very low ceiling. It's selling point is SOME degree of armor, allowing it to work under fire and it's main task is covering other AA vehicles and emplacement, sweeping otherwise "missed" targets. That's why it shares same command vehicles with Osa, Strela and Tunguska. So the real bread and butter is sets of HARM missiles trying to hit systems like Pantsir, Buk, S-300/350/400 or radar posts.
Отличный ЗРК. Но он не должен быть на фронтовой линии. Они бы ещё Круг, Квадрат, или Куб, особенно современные модификации, в ход пустили. Или С-125, или, чего уж мелочиться, С-200 и С-300, 400 и 500. На фронте место "с6 Тунгуска, Панцирь С1 или 9К33 "Оса". И то, последняя с оговорками
SPAA is a bit of a love hate thing for since sometimes most people use spaa for others reason but when you have that one guy who keeps Alt+ deleting or click refresh sky tab to make sure nothing fly makes the matche soo much better
That was me with the striker for a bit. Can nail bmps, scout, move fast because of the gearbox (reverses as fast as it goes forward) and there's always that Russian guy with a ka50 at the start.
no proper radar lock and track for anti air missiles (manual line of sight is only used in case of heavy ECM interference ) Not to mention that Russian SAM's are supposed to by synced up to a command post or larger radar array rather than using the onboard electronics.
I am Mid reaserching this AA right now but the fact that you are not using Auto Lead (Or at least not using straight up Auto) Is making me sad, This thing is a beast if you know how to press (L + Alt) :D
@Fire-superme when shooting at a target past a few kilometers with auto lead turned on, most of the time, the auto lead will not lead the missile enough and it will miss the target unless there flying directly at you, at least with my experience using auto lead.
russian anti aircraft not in the russian tech tree, but the chinese one. I feel that russia should get a better version of it, because it's theirs, but they do NOT need it.
Me in my AH Mk1 with Starstreaks: (laughs maniacally) I almost got a nuke from first spawn Brit apache before they nerfed the Starstreak cost to make it unable to first spawn Starstreaks. It's in my AH Mk.1 vid actually.
It’s got the coolest missile firing animations of all the top tier SPAA’s
in men of war mod , TOR just firing horizontal (foward) instead vertical FR💀
@@marauder-chan1967 bruh 💀
@@marauder-chan1967 oof
#returngrassguy
Hell yeah
"Malzi have my children." Sir, This is a game of War Thunder.
#returngrassguy
Yeah bro no one in this game have children they either left or never existed :(
The wet fart noise on launch is just perfect
the very last second of this video took me out
7:45 the fact that I audibly laughed at this crude poop sound shows I have the humor of a child
HE ENDED IT WITH IT TOO AND IT CAUGHT ME SO OFF GAURD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Genau so wie ich du Nase
What i expect from top tier SPAA: Improved launch-and-forget AA missles which can ignore flare
What i get from top tier SPAA: more manual control which most likely to work when the target is ignorant of the incoming danger.
Another banger from Grass Molester Malzi
Because we dont have true BWR yet in game, missiles are not going pitbull wich would come closest to fire & forget to a degree, top tier missiels in game feel really janky & random.
@@DerDrecksack87 There pretty much is no self contained SPAA vehicle that has active radar missiles in service. Command RF guidance for something like SHORAD makes way more sense since you're going to be firing a lot of them and they need to be small and cheap. The only short range active radar missile air defense system is NASAMS and that's because they just stuck an AIM-120 on a ground launcher
@@signs80 I was not just talking about SHORAD, the Patriot PAC3 and the S400/S500 systems all have fire & forget active radar guided missiles, sure they are hooked up in datalink with a radar but the missiles still go pitbull after fired if they lose radar lock from the ground station. They should add them in game, probably will at one point or make the 11.0-11.7 AA use fire & forget missiles like the Strela for gameplay reasons and limit the amount of simultanious spawnable AA to balance it or whatnot.
@@DerDrecksack87 They have said themselves they won't do SPAA like that because there is not really a feasible way to do it. S-300 and Patriot type systems need at minimum 3-4 different vehicles working together in order to actually function. IR missiles like the strela have shorter range than RF command guided missiles so they won't be particularly useful when enemy aircraft have 20km range guided TV missiles.
@@signs80 yeah and thats the issue with modern stuff, Gaijin either introduces new AA that outranges CAS or they introduce CAS that outranges AA in rotation year after year. The truth is there is no balance to be made, these systems were made as a response & to outdue each other irl aka the arms race. If they want to balance them they would have to artificially change the numbers to equal each others ranges between AA & jets, but then both communities would throw a tantrum again and downvote on steam. So gaijin is kinda in a hard place, do they want to keep it as it is (wich they wont as new stuff is coming especially for planes+new premiums are needed for funding) or try to expand on the game to allow for more modern & potent stuff, same story as with naval that is stuck in the WW2 battleship era and no real anti ship missiles on modern ships are in sight, because those would not work on the small maps we have, same as BWR with jets & long range air to air missiles like hypersonics, yet i also doubt they would make versions of existing maps 10x bigger just for top tier. I have no idea how they will do this when inevitably more ordnance & newer versions of jets come in, only in ground RB is somehow managable to have the new stuff fighting though those maps are antiquated too.
Tor-M1 is the coolest looking anti air in the game. change my mind
This has the coolest missile launch. But the OTOMATIC just looks superior
bruhhhhhh
fun fact that tor isnt chinese aa, but russian................
@@razegod5882real?
@@MANU-dw9dhit's from russian dude
If it's from china that TOR gonna have a weird name
this TOR TOR TOR TOR has coolest missile launch animation ever in top tier SPAA'S
I still don't know,. why Gaijin gave this to China but not to Russia.
You know why, the pantsir is better in every way so of course they needed it. Balance be damned.
Gaijin say byself , Tor 1 is Not good …. Bad Statistic etc … the biggest mistake from Gaijin was the nerf by Release , missle by Release 850m per sec. on the dev Server was ca. 1250m per sec
they know it won't perform good in war thunder so not giving it to Russia🤣
Because they don't want to give HQ-17 to China.
Finaly an up to date vid about the tor m1
@1:05 IT TRACKED THE BOMB. THE RADAR TRACKED THE BOMB. BOMB DROPS AS CHAFF CONFIRMED.
Also unguided missiles works better than flares)
Im touching myself to this video
Can yyyou d-do it for me plwease🥵
🔥🔥🔥
Sir, this is a Wendy's
anyone else eating while watching balzi
How did you know?
Watching WTuber while eating is mandatory.
Watching WTuber while eating is mandatory.
Watching WTuber while eating is mandatory.
I like how the missile launch sound is very similar to Naval's torpedo launch sound
Девиз пво:
Сами не летаем, и другим не даём!
:)
No matter where you hit a KA50.... "Damage to tail".
when im in a bad hit detection competition and my competitor is war thunder
Gaijin needs to add the tor as a foldered vehicle to the pantsir
The jazz song was a vibe
Seeing CAS mains getting denied air access is the greatest joy one can see
At least gaijin got a use for umkhonto Missile animation and put it to TOR instead
Nice to see at 1:55 that Malzi gets the same types of team compositions I get. I mean completely brain dead bots or something.
Gotta love a cold-launch system
Finally more China gameplay
Best looking spaa.... The only reason I started grinding China is so that I can get this thing and mbt 2000
New video 🔥🔥
Worst AA on 11.7 but looks the fricking best. Damn.
Had a great chuckle, thank you!
China in the war thunder😀
China in the rust:☠️☠️☠️
The Tor is actually russian and idk why china got it and The Russia doesnt
Russia has TOR 2M@@Richard_T800
@@user-uc6le4ns2g I mean the entire TOR series is russian and china got the Tor M1 but russia doesnt
@@Richard_T800China bought Tor M1s from Russia for defense against US Nuclear ICBMs
@@JordanMeadows-g1z Eh, kinda questionable decision.
Tor got very short range and very low ceiling. It's selling point is SOME degree of armor, allowing it to work under fire and it's main task is covering other AA vehicles and emplacement, sweeping otherwise "missed" targets. That's why it shares same command vehicles with Osa, Strela and Tunguska.
So the real bread and butter is sets of HARM missiles trying to hit systems like Pantsir, Buk, S-300/350/400 or radar posts.
music goes hard af, good pick malzi
everyone watching the video. me vibing whit the music
Day 159 of asking Malzi to play War Thunder Mobile
So on that day Malzi woke up with a deep hatred towards the plane players in Earthbound, and exclaimed "If I don't fly, neither do you." 🗿🗿
Отличный ЗРК. Но он не должен быть на фронтовой линии. Они бы ещё Круг, Квадрат, или Куб, особенно современные модификации, в ход пустили. Или С-125, или, чего уж мелочиться, С-200 и С-300, 400 и 500. На фронте место "с6 Тунгуска, Панцирь С1 или 9К33 "Оса". И то, последняя с оговорками
Malzi suffers
I liked my own comment twice
@@Syst3mat1cErr0r based
SPAA is a bit of a love hate thing for since sometimes most people use spaa for others reason but when you have that one guy who keeps Alt+ deleting or click refresh sky tab to make sure nothing fly makes the matche soo much better
That was me with the striker for a bit. Can nail bmps, scout, move fast because of the gearbox (reverses as fast as it goes forward) and there's always that Russian guy with a ka50 at the start.
no proper radar lock and track for anti air missiles (manual line of sight is only used in case of heavy ECM interference ) Not to mention that Russian SAM's are supposed to by synced up to a command post or larger radar array rather than using the onboard electronics.
Wheres the grass guy, i hope he’s okay. I hope malzi isn’t on drougs
nice video good shot 😊😊😊😊😊
Учусь играть по твоим роликам, получается так же😂😂😂
Even I playing this video with 720p. The video still clear af. How u do that Malzi?
day 187 of asking comrade Malzi to play the SU100Y
This SPAA can be better when we have AGM
Hello Malzi, would you kindly play KPz-70, but only use ATGM :) Thank you! Comment #35
I wonder when they will give its thermal back or at least decrease its BR
If the rocket would be faster (like 1000 instead of 850) it would be much better then the adats and it would perform better
Still like how this is a Russian SPAA but they gave it to China because Russia has the Pantsir, as if Gaijin cared about balancing before.
I am Mid reaserching this AA right now but the fact that you are not using Auto Lead (Or at least not using straight up Auto) Is making me sad, This thing is a beast if you know how to press (L + Alt) :D
The auto lead tends to just miss the target past a few kilometers
Me here in pantsir ignoring lead and auto entirely
And only using los
@@mmneaapro596 does it even have Auto Aim as an option?
@@Jerry0880 wdym by that?
@Fire-superme when shooting at a target past a few kilometers with auto lead turned on, most of the time, the auto lead will not lead the missile enough and it will miss the target unless there flying directly at you, at least with my experience using auto lead.
Day 350 asking malzi to play with no sound in ground simulator battles and day 50 asking malzi to play with the PBV 501 only using OG-9
Yessir 29 mins ago new vid big ws
russian anti aircraft not in the russian tech tree, but the chinese one. I feel that russia should get a better version of it, because it's theirs, but they do NOT need it.
Nah tree still won the best SPAA of the whole time
А я катался на такой в армии😃 но ракетами управлял не я, было весело........
Day 8 of asking Malzi to try the coastel fleet in Germany, yeah thats it
1:32 😭😭😭😭😭
Day 6 of asking malizi to touch some stinken grass
Why does this brick have a scouting ability but the ELC bis does not
Can you take a video with 2S6
Day 6 of asking malzi to play Roblox cursed tank simulator
least boring Malzi video:
Day 37 of asking Malzi to play the M22 with SAP
Does anyone have a link to the video where Tense smashes his keyboard and says something like 'oh man imposibol'?
erm what the sigma
wow
Bruh every high tier spaa is a free god mode for my 234 ( could be 222)
Me in my AH Mk1 with Starstreaks: (laughs maniacally)
I almost got a nuke from first spawn Brit apache before they nerfed the Starstreak cost to make it unable to first spawn Starstreaks. It's in my AH Mk.1 vid actually.
Day 158 of asking Malzi to play Obj 268
Ka50s are such shitboxes of a helicopter
Day 17 of asking malzi to play The brazillian version of AMX-A1
The one piece of Russian crap that works about as good in game as it does IRL 😂😂
Cool shit 😎
I miss grass guy
Day 4 asking Malzi to play with the TAM🇦🇷
Bet it takes more snaks than on Toyota lol
malzi decal when
Day 8 of asking malzi if it claps
Malzi play on top tier ships. Day 270 𓀐𓂺
Yooo. New Malzi Video \o/
Day 5 of asking Malzi to finally touch some grass (again).
Day 323 of asking Malzi to play the Me 262 A-1a/U4
Day 131 of asking Malzi to play the Elc Bis
where you at the antartic map by any chance?
Asking Malzi for finally touch grass on video day 22
Day 22 of asking Malzi to play War Thunder Mobile
Day 20 of asking malzi to pet a cat
Day 14 of asking Malzi to play with me (6.7)
- Soon becoming 7.0 with T92
Where do i get this
has anyone tried the APN + IRST combo? is it any good? also why not use the Auto mode?
Day 29 of asking Malzi to play with hungarian tanks and change your language to hungarian to become the true hungarian
How the fuck is cutting the tail of a KA-50 just a "Hit"??
Day 19 of asking Malzi to play World of Tanks
Grass
Can someone tell me the song used at 7:25 ?
3:15 #RussianBias
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, those "Chinese".air defense systems
We need patriot system or better AA, so tired of air spammers
how can u found all these meme/vine/voice so fast? he have more time in youtube than wt for these videos i swear 😅
does the TOR not have IRST locking?
no it does
@@pandaperson4507 ok, malzi just isn't using it then
like everything not russina - this spaa works half-assed
There’s videos of the Tor M1 in Ukraine engaging drones…
And missing.
Why did the Chinese get TOR first??
They didn't want to give China the HQ-17, so they gave them a weakened version of the Tor.
Day 14 asking to malzi to touch some grass