The thing about Hitler never listening to his generals is kind of misleading. It's not really black and white. Sometimes he listened to them and they were wrong and sometimes he didn't listen to them and he was wrong, and vice versa. You can't say across the board that Hitler should've listened to his generals because it was more complicated than that.
TIK has great videos about that and how Hitler actually was smart in not always listening to his generals. I wish the char wasn’t a bunch of 15 year old kids. If Tommy could watch some of TIK’s videos he would realize some of his knowledge of ww2 is actually wrong.
@@melkor3496 Yeah I agree, I'm an avid watcher of TIK and have been for a while. It is really annoying when you try to recommend him a good video and he just assumes it's some dumbshit, rightfully so since most of his chat is as you said filled with 15 yr old.
@@ostrichhe4d Yeah precisely. And I mean you aren’t forced to agree with his political opinions on the ideologies but they are at least extremely well made and he argues better than most for his stand points in his political videos. But all the videos where he covers military aspects of ww2 are all amazing and just brilliant and it saddens me that twitch chat filled with morons with no open mind thinking which will affect Tommy enough so he’ll either be really biased about TIK or never even watch TIK at all. I hate twitch chat sometimes just let him decide on his own without filling his head with negative opinions about a channel he hasn’t even watched. Many other CZcams channels on ww2 are also in contact with TIK like potential history and also recommend TIK’s videos. Just annoys me. Okay I’m done with my rant now. lol
It's basically just the generals who survived dumping all their failures onto Hitler by saying any good decision was their doing and all the failures were him.
I think a lot of the Germans who fought to the death in this battle weren't die hard Nazis, they were just afraid of the Soviets. They'd heard the stories of soldiers who tried to surrender, but were murdered en masse. Maybe they thought that if they held the Soviets back long enough, the Allies would come in from the west and they could surrender to them. I've heard Germans deserted and booked it west to try that. This goes especially for the foreign volunteers. A lot of foreigners joined the German army not to fight the British or the Americans, but to fight communists. I also doubt the eastern members of the Axis had any larger goals of toppling democracy worldwide. They just wanted to fight the Soviets. A lot of modern day right wing populism is based on supposedly countering communism. And all the eugenics and crap is hidden to the masses by the veil of anti-communist sentiment. It's always about fighting the red menace.
shame that he never does research and just listens to randos in a discord (so he perpetuates myths and misinformation. Also a lot of stuff thats easily researched is heavily inaccurate, like almost anything he’s done about the japanese and chinese.)
I like how he didn’t say the Soviets were part of the Allied Powers, because they weren’t. It’s the same thing with Japan and Germany. Also comparing Ukraine to the Defense of the Reich isn’t fair. They are totally different, one is a war of attrition with both sides lying to spread their views and the other is a rather well put together defense.
They rlly aren’t that different though. The eastern front was a war of production to see which side could outgun the other. Russia sucks at warfare, but when it comes to attritional warfare, they simply can’t be beat
@@DegnaDings 1940s USSR couldnt be beat, but modern day Russia doesen't even have remotely the same industrial base that it used to have. Granted, it's still significantly larger than Ukraine's. But if NATO really, really wanted to, Russia wouldn't even be remotely be able to keep with up.
@@TheArrowedKneeno, they couldn’t. The only one who could is USA. Western European nations lack everything for mass production, even the workers, no one has any sense of duty anymore.
8:22 Starsky is right sadly chat is always dumb. TIK has great videos on the military aspects on ww2 and a separate section for ideology where he arguments very well for what he thinks and that is anyone’s choice to listen to and agree with or not. Nonetheless TIK IS NOT a Nazi sympathizer and if only chat had brains they would understand this. TIK might have some unpopular opinions that he has videos where he argues for it but that’s it. His videos about military decisions in ww2 are brilliant nonetheless sadly chats bs about TIK will make Tommy have pre made opinions on TIK content and channel and as such will never watch them and definitely not go in unbiased about them.
@@iGHyrrokkinv2 He's an anarcho-capitalist (seemingly) who shits on wehraboos and commieboos alike. The German generals weren't really that great, mostly their enemies made a lot of mistakes, especially early in the war. Hitler was rational and he reached his conclusions through logical means, if you accept his premises (which you shouldn't). Lefties hate him for saying National Socialism is socialism, revisionists hate him for saying the Nazis were horrible socialists who destroyed the economy. If that bugs you, just don't watch his videos on politics/economics because his military history videos are the best on youtube, bar none.
"its so sad people fall for propaganda" he says as he recites cold war propaganda. The Soviet union had less people then the axis during the early years of the war.
@@jewpower42 yeah during OP barbarossa the germans took a large chunk of the ussr along with its population. The soviets had less people under their control until thes retook the areas.
@@iplaygames8090 to be honest, Tommy turns into a typical brainwashed Russophobe. Each of his statements about Russia and russians confirm this. After all, this is the standard state for a German. There are a lot of Russians and a lot of Chechens in Germany and I still think that it would be so nice to give information about him to these communities so that they could find this balding german and put him on his knees, so that he answers for his words. Sooner or later it will happen to him
@@SargeNuR It is wonderful that russophobia is on the rise, now people see these winter savages in all their "glory". Russia delenda est! Decolonization is coming Ivan.
3:08 Alcoholism has been a systematic form of oppression in Russia since its early years in the 1500s. That’s why the communists were abolitionists before Stalin came along who wanted that oppression back since he had become the oppressor
I wish to Tommy would see this. I know he won't. But the reason why many German people don't remember the rebuilding up their countries because many people were already in factory work and also In the army So while the allies had to go through thousands of stories to see who was just following the orders, they were probably all. In a camp but like not one of the bad ones, the natural military camp And the allies in the Soviets had more available constructions and they floated Europe with them.
It is wierd that my great grand father was taken to laibour in germany they wanted to kill him but he managed to come back and now i am wathing you now i like the video but our grand phaders would kill each other
@@Kittystag В учебниках у нас такое пишут. Альтернативные источники информации кроме телека у нас есть. Выбор кому и во что верить тоже. И вы и мы (хотя не очень то мы и разные) просто срем друг друга, заменяя водку на сало и наоборот. Только смотря такие видео я всегда задаюсь вопросом. А что же такого сделал я, что словил порцию говна просто потому, что существую?..
@@Ditmar-pz5wq Не больше, чем до. Впрочем, ненавистью это не назвать, так, лёгкая неприязнь к некоторым представителям. А вообще русские прикольные. Жаль, что так получилось.
12:39 would not say it is that simple, at that point it is just an apocalyptic "us" or "them", political ideologies be damned. Many Germans did NOT surrender in the eastern front due to fear of russian cruelty and lets be honest, if your mother or sister were in Berlin behind you there, you'd also do your utmost to make sure enemy troops would not reach it, especially if they had such a reputation
You cant just portray the political spectrum as simply left and right if you lump Hitler into the mix, like what kind of mental conditioning are you on?
"...didn't they steal shit? Well that is just a Russian culture right." Used to love his streams but his obvious one sided blind hatred that appeared coincidentally after war happened, made his streams so much harder to watch. Not sure if he says such borderline racist stuff out of his propaganda filled heart or to appease the "victims" and get extra views/likes/subs.
@@road-eo6911 pillaging during WW2 is not stealing culture, otherwise almost every participant would have stealing culture. Soviet are not Russian, and Russian are not Soviet.
you also gotta understand that hes not a native english speaker right so by russian culture maybe he meant russian military culture culture as a word is confusing to many people lets assume the best in people
Yes, when your country keeps invading other countries for no reason other than XX century imperialism and commits war crimes, you might catch a discontent comment about yourself here and there Imagine if Americans would be this "outraged" seeing comments people make about them after Iraq and Afghanistan... Internet would be 95% angry Americans commenting like OP lmao
why hasnt Russia gone to ww2 tactics in ukraine and why is putin struggeling to get manpower ? pile up 3 million russians if they can and storm ukraine job done
Soviet didn’t destroy Japan? They literally joined last second after the US had already destroyed their navy and air force and Japan had redeployed the majority of their Manchurian army to China and mainland Japan.
Fr, hate the losers who argue about what the western allies had done against Germany. Yes they were significant but did they lose tens of millions of people like the soviets? Unless human life isn’t of value to you then stfu
@@exstratos2477 lmao how stupid that sounds. Have you ever noticed little kid that stalin killed more his own citizens than nazi germany did? Unfortunately they were used as meat and that's an answer. And now go learn smth about history, hijo de puta
@@road-eo6911DPR/LPR troops fought for freedom against a government that repressed them and their language, yet apparently they are the invaders. POWs are civilians, not "invaders"...
The thing about Hitler never listening to his generals is kind of misleading. It's not really black and white. Sometimes he listened to them and they were wrong and sometimes he didn't listen to them and he was wrong, and vice versa. You can't say across the board that Hitler should've listened to his generals because it was more complicated than that.
TIK has great videos about that and how Hitler actually was smart in not always listening to his generals. I wish the char wasn’t a bunch of 15 year old kids. If Tommy could watch some of TIK’s videos he would realize some of his knowledge of ww2 is actually wrong.
@@melkor3496 Yeah I agree, I'm an avid watcher of TIK and have been for a while. It is really annoying when you try to recommend him a good video and he just assumes it's some dumbshit, rightfully so since most of his chat is as you said filled with 15 yr old.
@@ostrichhe4d Yeah precisely. And I mean you aren’t forced to agree with his political opinions on the ideologies but they are at least extremely well made and he argues better than most for his stand points in his political videos. But all the videos where he covers military aspects of ww2 are all amazing and just brilliant and it saddens me that twitch chat filled with morons with no open mind thinking which will affect Tommy enough so he’ll either be really biased about TIK or never even watch TIK at all. I hate twitch chat sometimes just let him decide on his own without filling his head with negative opinions about a channel he hasn’t even watched.
Many other CZcams channels on ww2 are also in contact with TIK like potential history and also recommend TIK’s videos. Just annoys me. Okay I’m done with my rant now. lol
It's basically just the generals who survived dumping all their failures onto Hitler by saying any good decision was their doing and all the failures were him.
@@melkor3496 honestly tommy probably wouldn't even like TIK but yeah I feel where you're coming from
"The battle that ENDED world war 2"
Japan: Am I a joke to you?
in Europe
I think a lot of the Germans who fought to the death in this battle weren't die hard Nazis, they were just afraid of the Soviets. They'd heard the stories of soldiers who tried to surrender, but were murdered en masse.
Maybe they thought that if they held the Soviets back long enough, the Allies would come in from the west and they could surrender to them. I've heard Germans deserted and booked it west to try that.
This goes especially for the foreign volunteers. A lot of foreigners joined the German army not to fight the British or the Americans, but to fight communists.
I also doubt the eastern members of the Axis had any larger goals of toppling democracy worldwide. They just wanted to fight the Soviets.
A lot of modern day right wing populism is based on supposedly countering communism. And all the eugenics and crap is hidden to the masses by the veil of anti-communist sentiment. It's always about fighting the red menace.
Only strategy players, truly understand the concept of war.
These videos of tommy reacting the history vids are so good always
Love the Armchair historian, never disappoints to get us a good reaction
shame that he never does research and just listens to randos in a discord (so he perpetuates myths and misinformation. Also a lot of stuff thats easily researched is heavily inaccurate, like almost anything he’s done about the japanese and chinese.)
I like how he didn’t say the Soviets were part of the Allied Powers, because they weren’t. It’s the same thing with Japan and Germany. Also comparing Ukraine to the Defense of the Reich isn’t fair. They are totally different, one is a war of attrition with both sides lying to spread their views and the other is a rather well put together defense.
They rlly aren’t that different though. The eastern front was a war of production to see which side could outgun the other. Russia sucks at warfare, but when it comes to attritional warfare, they simply can’t be beat
@@DegnaDings 1940s USSR couldnt be beat, but modern day Russia doesen't even have remotely the same industrial base that it used to have. Granted, it's still significantly larger than Ukraine's. But if NATO really, really wanted to, Russia wouldn't even be remotely be able to keep with up.
@@TheArrowedKneeno, they couldn’t. The only one who could is USA. Western European nations lack everything for mass production, even the workers, no one has any sense of duty anymore.
8:22 Starsky is right sadly chat is always dumb. TIK has great videos on the military aspects on ww2 and a separate section for ideology where he arguments very well for what he thinks and that is anyone’s choice to listen to and agree with or not. Nonetheless TIK IS NOT a Nazi sympathizer and if only chat had brains they would understand this. TIK might have some unpopular opinions that he has videos where he argues for it but that’s it. His videos about military decisions in ww2 are brilliant nonetheless sadly chats bs about TIK will make Tommy have pre made opinions on TIK content and channel and as such will never watch them and definitely not go in unbiased about them.
What sort of unpopular opinions does he have?
@@iGHyrrokkinv2 Nazism is on the extreme left spectrum.
TIK is a beast haters gonna hate
@@iGHyrrokkinv2 He's an anarcho-capitalist (seemingly) who shits on wehraboos and commieboos alike. The German generals weren't really that great, mostly their enemies made a lot of mistakes, especially early in the war. Hitler was rational and he reached his conclusions through logical means, if you accept his premises (which you shouldn't). Lefties hate him for saying National Socialism is socialism, revisionists hate him for saying the Nazis were horrible socialists who destroyed the economy. If that bugs you, just don't watch his videos on politics/economics because his military history videos are the best on youtube, bar none.
@@hubbabubba9178 anarcho-capitalist 🤢🤮
My great grandfather fought in Berlin, he was a Tank driver. Luckily he survived the war
Hero
What a hero,I hope he lived a good life after that horrible war
Tommy you need to play Call to Arms Gates of Hell 💪 keep up the amazing content
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"its so sad people fall for propaganda" he says as he recites cold war propaganda. The Soviet union had less people then the axis during the early years of the war.
Sorry, less people?
@@jewpower42 he meant, less soldiers
@@jewpower42 yeah during OP barbarossa the germans took a large chunk of the ussr along with its population. The soviets had less people under their control until thes retook the areas.
@@iplaygames8090 to be honest, Tommy turns into a typical brainwashed Russophobe. Each of his statements about Russia and russians confirm this. After all, this is the standard state for a German. There are a lot of Russians and a lot of Chechens in Germany and I still think that it would be so nice to give information about him to these communities so that they could find this balding german and put him on his knees, so that he answers for his words. Sooner or later it will happen to him
@@SargeNuR It is wonderful that russophobia is on the rise, now people see these winter savages in all their "glory". Russia delenda est! Decolonization is coming Ivan.
8:00 literally nothing changed if compared to nowadays
Without a lend lease the soviets would clearly have lost
Without Soviets blood the allies stand no chance.
The guy who killed Hitler is my hero!
3:08 Alcoholism has been a systematic form of oppression in Russia since its early years in the 1500s. That’s why the communists were abolitionists before Stalin came along who wanted that oppression back since he had become the oppressor
I wish to Tommy would see this. I know he won't. But the reason why many German people don't remember the rebuilding up their countries because many people were already in factory work and also In the army So while the allies had to go through thousands of stories to see who was just following the orders, they were probably all.
In a camp but like not one of the bad ones, the natural military camp And the allies in the Soviets had more available constructions and they floated Europe with them.
the veterans could go first in line to get products thats all i know but propably other social benefits
What’s truly insane is how the Russians refused to be routed despite devastating losses
Which one still tho where was many like Moscow and yea
pennys
actaully it was ww2 in europe, doesnt matter but yes
It is wierd that my great grand father was taken to laibour in germany they wanted to kill him but he managed to come back and now i am wathing you now i like the video but our grand phaders would kill each other
4:23 Around 53 Million People Died
Loving the bisexual energy from Tommy lol, no homo I had a dream about Griff recently
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"Extra vodka? This is Russian culture"
That was xenofobic
And yet very much true
@@shamargentle5801 No. I was never teached like that. I'm Russian
But when it's about salo and ukraine it's all fine right...
@@Kittystag В учебниках у нас такое пишут. Альтернативные источники информации кроме телека у нас есть. Выбор кому и во что верить тоже. И вы и мы (хотя не очень то мы и разные) просто срем друг друга, заменяя водку на сало и наоборот. Только смотря такие видео я всегда задаюсь вопросом. А что же такого сделал я, что словил порцию говна просто потому, что существую?..
@@Ditmar-pz5wq Не больше, чем до. Впрочем, ненавистью это не назвать, так, лёгкая неприязнь к некоторым представителям. А вообще русские прикольные. Жаль, что так получилось.
12:39 would not say it is that simple, at that point it is just an apocalyptic "us" or "them", political ideologies be damned. Many Germans did NOT surrender in the eastern front due to fear of russian cruelty and lets be honest, if your mother or sister were in Berlin behind you there, you'd also do your utmost to make sure enemy troops would not reach it, especially if they had such a reputation
hi
Calling Russia a failed state...things are getting worse, Tommy, but they're not *that* bad
but..Japan was still up
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The waffle House has found its new host
You cant just portray the political spectrum as simply left and right if you lump Hitler into the mix, like what kind of mental conditioning are you on?
"...didn't they steal shit? Well that is just a Russian culture right." Used to love his streams but his obvious one sided blind hatred that appeared coincidentally after war happened, made his streams so much harder to watch. Not sure if he says such borderline racist stuff out of his propaganda filled heart or to appease the "victims" and get extra views/likes/subs.
But it's true, Soviet troops did have a culture of stealing.
@@road-eo6911 pillaging during WW2 is not stealing culture, otherwise almost every participant would have stealing culture. Soviet are not Russian, and Russian are not Soviet.
you also gotta understand that hes not a native english speaker right
so by russian culture maybe he meant russian military culture
culture as a word is confusing to many people
lets assume the best in people
Cry about it mongol
Yes, when your country keeps invading other countries for no reason other than XX century imperialism and commits war crimes, you might catch a discontent comment about yourself here and there
Imagine if Americans would be this "outraged" seeing comments people make about them after Iraq and Afghanistan... Internet would be 95% angry Americans commenting like OP lmao
atomic bombs ended the war not this battle
This is the battle that ended the war in europe
why hasnt Russia gone to ww2 tactics in ukraine and why is putin struggeling to get manpower ? pile up 3 million russians if they can and storm ukraine job done
Putin may be an mad autocrat, but I guess it's not as easy for him as it was for Stalin to "pile up" 3 million russians
All these parallels you draw to Putin only apply to zelensky
Exactly, but he way to naive to ever understand that.
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no
Example?
It's pretty crazy how Soviet destroyed both Germany and Japan. Thanks to communists we survived.
Soviet didn’t destroy Japan? They literally joined last second after the US had already destroyed their navy and air force and Japan had redeployed the majority of their Manchurian army to China and mainland Japan.
Imagine ussr fighting reich without lend-lease from allies and opening the second front
What in the crayon for brains
Fr, hate the losers who argue about what the western allies had done against Germany. Yes they were significant but did they lose tens of millions of people like the soviets? Unless human life isn’t of value to you then stfu
@@exstratos2477 lmao how stupid that sounds. Have you ever noticed little kid that stalin killed more his own citizens than nazi germany did? Unfortunately they were used as meat and that's an answer. And now go learn smth about history, hijo de puta
Tommy clearly hasn’t seen the Ukraine troops executing DPR/LPR and Russian troops
Good, no mercy for the invaders.
@@road-eo6911DPR/LPR troops fought for freedom against a government that repressed them and their language, yet apparently they are the invaders. POWs are civilians, not "invaders"...
oh no de gaulle's men are executing vichy French soldiers!