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Customers no longer trust Hollywood and go into a movie blindly. They've been betrayed too many times.
Exactly! 👏👏👏👏
Well we do check reviews before buying a 🎫
@@jonfreeman9682 Aye…. Because most of those reviews are not bought and paid for. These “critics” would crawl through dog sh!t naked for continued access and a goody bag.
@@jonfreeman9682 I don’t even check reviews anymore. I look at the trailer and dissect it then I decide.
Example:
I saw the Furiosa trailer, no mad max, but a prequel to this random girl from a previous movie I also didn’t see because I didn’t care about her, so I decided to not waste my time.
Reviewers:
“This movie is great!! go see it!!!”
Me:
No
@@linus116yeah most of the time the trailer tells you everything about the movie
Girl Boss fatigue -- even if they lead girl is well written and not obnoxious in your face, people are now once bitten twice shy from all the rancid Mary Sue girl boss action "HERoes" that they will assume the worst with any female led action movie.
Here's hoping word of mouth gets some more butts in seats, because the movie is badass.
Exactly....should have been about Max
I exclusively go to movies that are recommended by my friends. The last movie I saw in the theater was Top Gun Maverick.
And even if Furiosa isn't a Rey-style girlboss, the poster implies otherwise. They did this to themselves.
Well there's room for girl boss like Barbie, WW 1, captain Marvel, black Panther 2 and black widow as they've been hits but not everything works of course. Star Wars Rey trilogy made $4.5 billion box office so girl boss can work but mad Max isn't a huge franchise to begin with.
Mate summed it up: "it was a sequel nobody asked for to a movie that was a knock off of a better film."
I find it hilarious that everyone is perplexed as to why these movies are failing.
Word-of-mouth does work. Godzilla Minus One was successful because of this. The public is just sick of Hollywood. Period.
It also only cost maybe 15 million dollars, if it had a typical Hollywood budget it wouldn’t have anything money wise to brag about even though it was a fantastic movie.
But the people that have seen Furiosa have said they liked it and thought it was good. I don't think it comes down to word of mouth.
Saw it, no gril boss, it was good.
Well it does help when you have a minuscule budget, so making $100 mil+ in your box office run against a $15mil budget is a lot different vs having $150mil budget and only making $100 mil
I'll do my part & say that I saw Furiosa & it was great, especially if you enjoyed the world set up in Fury Road. It leaves the Dolby room at one of my local theaters on Sunday, seriously considering going back again before then.
I live in Trudeau’s Canada, so therefore I can barely afford groceries and rent. This leaves how much over for movies? Thanks, leftists.
I live in the US and it's a similar situation for me, and I wish these guys would factor that in when they make their predictions about what is happening.
“take that you woke moralists”
yup leftist own every corporation and runs every lobby group. You are brilliant, hope you get by during these times.
well this is where ur wrong, ur plight isnt because of leftist, but rather oligarchs. Trudeau is their willing puppet n it has u blaming the left vs the oligarchs who actually control him. they don't want us to unite. and by ur thanking the leftist, their plan is working very good
Trust me it ain't any better down south. Ticket prices average $10-20 depending on the quality of the cinema but you can get discounted tickets Tuesday.
They made a female version of Mad Max and she is angrier than he is...she's furious (= Furiosa) at the patriarchy
and she replaces Mad Max in his own Saga...THAT IS WHY THIS SHT SHOW FAILED
These idiots can’t figure it out 😂
What do you mean? there is a mad max film coming out with him in the lead it isn't replacing anything
@@rupertsmith5815 No, there isn't. Furiosa killed it.
@@Slitheringpeanut You dont know that.
A lot of George Miller films underperformed that never stopped him from moving forward so we will see
@@rupertsmith5815 That's canceled.
Marketed horribly for a character nobody asked for, a prequel released 10 years after her debut. Should’ve made Furiosa her own separate franchise not tied to Mad Max and had this film out by 2017 at the latest.
I mean, sure. Personally I thought Furiosa was cool in Fury Road & really enjoyed that movie. Miller had penned scripts or at least stories for Fury Road, Furiosa & a 3rd Max-focused film (The Wasteland) in the several years following Thunderdome. For anyone following the franchise closely, they knew Furiosa was the next film to be made. This wasn't a woke girl boss move by Miller. The production, much like that of Fury Road, was plagued with delays. They had to delay for covid. Then when they got back to work, they had terrible storms in Australia that flooded the sets & they had to delay even longer. So yes, it's definitely late getting here. But Furiosa was awesome if you enjoyed Fury Road. If not, you're probably not going to like this one. But at the end of the day, it's another great George Miller film, and if it could just manage to make some money, I think everyone who wants a Mad Max-focused film would probably get their wish. It's literally waiting to be made.
@@ioncewasmikeyFuriosa was a decent character in Fury Road. Which made her the bait and switch hero of that movie. Max was muzzled and second fiddle to her for most of the movie. Yes, he did have scenes, but the story revolved around her. I think that if they dropped the “a Mad Max Saga” title and just called it simply “Furiosa” it would have done better. Because piggybacking off of a character that was already swapped out in the previous movie probably had people expecting the movie to just be Mad Max in name and treating it just as a vehicle to push some gender agenda. They should have had it stand on its own feet and look honest about its intentions.
@nicholasbullock1709 I get what you're saying, and I'd love to see another Max-centric movie. The thing is, Max had 3 movies & he was always kind of dragged into the bigger picture in those films in part as well, so I don't necessarily agree with the bait & switch aspect. Miller's plan was to do a new trilogy- Fury Road, Furiosa & a 3rd movie called The Wasteland that'd have focused on Max. (Edit- I'm really surprised how many apparent Mad Max fans seem to be unaware of this.) Furiosa got seriously delayed multiple times due to covid & weather, so it's late getting to us which isn't helping matters either. But I don't know that this was all some sort of trendy, ideological move like it's been made out to be.
@@ioncewasmikey”delay for covid”. Dude covid was 2020. 6 years after Fury road, there’s no excuse for a prequel spin off to take that long. Again should’ve been out 2017 the latest. Also yeah she was okay in fury road but come on, she was the main character in the supposed “mad max” film. Max spends the first half of the movie captured then chained to a car and barely speaks 3 sentences until the final third, and even then it’s still very obvious it’s Furiosa’s movie. It’s her quest to save the wives, it’s her dream to find the green, it’s her near death everyone is worried about, it’s her that slays Immortal Joe and then liberated his strong hold. Max just is a side character in his own supposed movie. Even Nox gets a bigger character arc than he does.
Don’t get me wrong, I really like Fury Road, but upon a rewatch recently it made me realize how woke it really was. Heck Max can’t even snipe the car that stalks them at night, he has to give the gun up to Furiosa to make the shot with her prosthetic arm… then when he goes after the car it’s just an off camera scene cause we can’t show him being too BA.
Honestly I would’ve much rather seen a prequel to Immortal Joe. He is by far a more interesting character and very memorable villain imo
@@lawrencetalbot8346 People are done with Female leads. It doesn't matter if it's not woke. The main customer base for a theatre visit has always been men. After a decade of awful overpowered ridiculous girl bossing? No one's buying anymore. This is not at all complicated.
They girl-bossed, side-quested, prequel-ed and subverted-the-existing/expected far too close to the sun and got burnt when the hot air melted their tickling but waxy feathers.
Girl boss + a niche genre nobody cares for makes it a tough sell.
Let me save you 26 minutes and 37 seconds: It flopped because no real people wanted it.
Yep
Disney looking at this, then back to their grand plans for a Daisy Ridley-helmed SW sequel...😅
disney must forget about starwars and bring the princess who has a make over and marry a manly man who is handsome, this is what women want
I'd rather prefer to see C3PO become a jedi master...
😂😂😂
Furiosa is better than anything Disney has done with Star Wars by a mile.
@@ioncewasmikey exactly. So their horrible nonsense SW fanfic will fail even worse. I thought Fury Road was the best action movie in years. George Miller is a legit director.
@@AnHonestDoubter go see Furiosa if you haven't already! It's a treat, especially since you enjoyed Fury Road. And it's got to make money if we hope to ever see that Max-focused film that would tie into Fury Road.
SD: "A decade of movies that have ... underperformed...". People who like a movie aren't going back to see it multiple times, everyone else is waiting for it to come out on streaming. Hollywood seriously needs to cut costs.
One of the biggest problems with the modern female hero is that she is written by and has the managerial support of lesbians.
Honestly, to me, Furiosa was okay as a one-off character for Fury Road, like the many others before her including, but not limited to, The Gyro Captain, Toecutter, Goose, Auntie Entity, amongst many others. But to me Furiosa didn't have enough pull to be interesting enough to warrant a stand-alone prequel for her. But that's just me.
Exactly.
Doesn't anyone remember the last Mad Max movie was basically a Furiosa movie anyway...
True, but in the same way The Road Warrior and Thunderdome weren't really about Max either. In Fury road, Furiosa would never have accomplished her task without Max. Same in the other two movies. He was the hero that enabled the other characters to achieve their goals. That's what people like about Max, or any archetypical hero.
Indeed, we have not had a good mad max movie since Thunderdome.
@@JumpingJack6 You mean there hasn't been a good mad max movie since Road Warrior. Thunderdome didn't work. This franchise ran out of good ideas in 1981. George Miller is washed up and needs to retire.
I disagree. Furiosa was a very good character in fury road. Max did play a major role, and he had badass moments (killing the bullemaster off screen!), and coming up with the idea of attacking the citadel. I just missed Mel Gibson's charisma. I really missed the character period in Furiosa.
Doesn't anyone remember that George Miller had the idea for a trilogy of films including Fury Road, Furiosa & a 3rd Max-focused movie that would lead into the events of Fury Road? Because that information has been circulating for the better part of a decade & yet all the "hardcore" Mad Max fans seem completely unaware of that fact. And if they are aware of it, it's pretty disingenuous of them not to mention it & parade around the "Furiosa is a girl boss" narrative before the film was even released.
I simply don't trust Hollywood to make a decent film anymore. It's always some bait and switch with the laziest writing. I watched Oppenheimer in theaters last year because I knew Nolan actually gives a crap even if he misfires, but that was it.
If you watch a movie from the '80s, the closing credits go by in the time it takes to play one 3-minute song. Now the average action flick has about a thousand people in the credits and require over 15 minutes of runtime. That might be a clue as to why budgets are out of control and why a niche movie about an even more niche character can't make its money back.
*_Elizabeth - a Last of the Mohicans saga_*
Where it's not about Daniel Day-Lewis' character or the native tribe at all, but it's the story of a young girl back in 18th century England who grew up with the female who became Day-Lewis' character's wife in America.
Miss me with the female action movies JFC this is so obvious just f’ing stop Hollywood. Please.
Furiosa was never selling. Angry Girlboss is so 2017, people were tired of them back then. We still are. It's that simple.
To be fair, this movie should not have ever been made. Fury Road bombed. It need 400m to break even, it couldn't break 380m.
Well there's room for girl boss. Ripley in aliens and Star Wars Rey have done well. Then there's WW 1, captain Marvel, black Panther 2, black widow and the mother of all girl boss Barbie scored the biggest box office of all time for a girl lead. But these all has brand name IP. Mad Max was never a big franchise to begin with and is kinda niche.
The trailer stunk of Capt Marvel and Terminator dark fate girl boss nonsense... doesn't mater if it is or isn't, not going to risk it...
It really is silly having a girl as the one to kick apocalyptic ass. Ridiculous. A bomb.
Deep thoughts abound.
Yeah that is woke
I'm curious how a movie would perform today if it was about a woman who wants to be a girlboss but gets reality checked by a guy who's not all that strong but still manages to best her at almost every challenge. We could follow her emotions as she starts out confident, gets angry at losing, falls into the pit of despair because she keeps losing, then acceptance of her limitations, and finally she conquers her own personal fears and is a strong woman in her own right, just not the savior of the world like she wanted to be.
Because mad max is known to be very realistic
@@rupertsmith5815 no, just the use of a small skinny girl beating everyone up. Filmmakers are asking far too much of our 'suspension of disbelief.'
The problem is Furiosa's original "popularity" from Fury Road was more manufactured than many people realize. Fury Road itself was not a box office powerhouse, but critics and many people would not STFU about much of a revelation Furiosa was...yet if you follow popular culture, Was this true?...was this character ever in the same breath as say Ripley or Sarah Conner or other great female action characters? No. This movie and the response to it reinforces that. Fury Road was mostly praised for its non stop action..not the characters. Even Hardy as Max kinda fades into the background.
🎯In the ensuing 9 years I don't recall seeing a single photo of a young woman cosplaying the character.
@@89426 Exactly. When you're a nerd or follow popular culture closely...you can always tell who catches on. You start seeing merchandise, cosplaying as you mentioned and lines of dialogue from the character being recited and also..copycats..which I saw fuck all of when it comes to Furiosa.
Note...I didn't dislike the character, but I also really didn't care either.
This is easy to understand: imagine a DARK KNIGHT follow up called ALFRED: A BATMAN SAGA
Alfred would be trans to boot. Lol
Furiosa’s a cool enough name, adding “a mad max saga” puts the bait & switch right in the title. It’s better to do it early than late, but it’s best not to do it at all.
The film industry wrote me out of caring about it and then the kids got bored and didn’t want to show up to the theater
95% of all movies with female leads suck currently.
Yeah well Furiosa is the other 5%, boss.
@@ioncewasmikeyBad odds, pass
@@ioncewasmikey The poster tells audiences that it's in the 95%.
@@ioncewasmikeyThe general audience is sick of female leads. This isn't just some people on one end of the spectrum. This crap has finally drove away the normies too.
@@ioncewasmikey So what.
It's not like people are going to watch a movie when 19 times out of 20 it sucks only to hope that they run across a Furiosa that's above average.
It’s cool to see Script filling in. You’re doing a great job, Alan.
The Furiosa Poster looks Ridiculous. They her Twice.
“Aunty Entity: A mad max saga” “The book of Boba Fett: a Luke Skywalker saga”
“Madame Web: A Spiderman saga”
“Joker: A Batman Saga”
😂
Uhm Joker did well.
I turned on the TV yesterday and there was an ad to rent The Fall Guy. Wasn’t that out a week or two ago?
Unless you really want to go to a theater, knowing you can watch it on your big screen in a couple of weeks must really be killing the box office.
When I was a teen in the 70’s I had a 19” B&W TV in my room. No one had a massive TV at home. Think @ ‘98 I was in an apartment and bought a 31” Sony that was pretty expensive.
Wasn’t that an Apple TV release? They tend to do that sort of thing a lot. Apple has a lot of money to burn…
If the movie failed, it's because the marketing failed. Most movies live or die on their first week, so there can be no word of mouth. Warner should take a long look at their generic marketing of this film. It failed to capture the publics imagination.
The original Mad Max movies / franchise was never a blockbuster brand. It ticked along making money but never HUGE amounts. It had a loyal and dedicated cult following, so trying to turn it into the next big thing, always a mistake.
This movie in its own right is “ok” but it’s NOT a Mad Max movie.
If they had made it with a modest budget, then 30-60 million box office would have been counted as a success.
Exactly! They need to stop with this CGI nonsense. if it can be made without CGI, then by all means make it without it and stop with these bloated budgets.
In the 90s Joe Laurinitis and Vince McMahon made more money off of Mad Max than whoever owned the Mad Max IP at the time.
Mad Max made loads of money in the secondary market, though. Highlander didin’t make much money when it came out but it came out right before home movies started becoming a thing.
@@GrahamCStrouse exactly. As a release it was modest but as a cult movie it has a huge “underground” following 😎
One of the best movies with a female hero being a woman is Silence Of The Lambs. Clarice Starling outsmarts all the FBI, saves the girl and gets properly rewarded at the end. She masterfully tackles any opposition with cunning and grace. Masterful.
Sarah Connor never quite worked for me. She was a little too masculine. Ellen Riley in Aliens on the other hand was really great.
HERE'S WHY FURIOSA BOMBED AT THE BOX OFFICE
There's no Mad Max in a Mad Max film.
Filmmakers and studio execs have said they're trying to force things on people who don't want them.
This movie might be good, the trailer made it look like just another girlboss movie like so many they've put out using bait-and-switch to drive their agenda.
Nobody owes them an audience, maybe they forgot how that works.
This is what Hollywood wanted.. what are they whinging about?
People are sick of chicks on the movie poster! Moviegoers have been fooled too many times and they're not going to give another dime to a possible "girl boss" movie! Thats at least part of it!
Probably the bulk of it... and, among others, people are tired of sequels and prequels, why spend 50 bucks for two when you can stream it for 15 bucks in a few months, in addition, bidenomics has eaten away at peoples disposable income.
100%. I see a girl, I’m done. Call me sexist idc. I have been so turned off by modern girl bosses/leads/action heroes/ always right/hood while men are always toxic/dumb/evil. I just am conditioned to be repulsed when I see a female lead.
What bugs me is all these "hardcore" Mad Max fans who aren't even aware the script for Furiosa was developed alongside the Fury Road story as well as a script for a 3rd movie that would focus on Max & tie in to Fury Road to form a new trilogy. That information has been circulating since 2015 and yet so many people complaining about the absence of Max don't even seem to know that this has been in the works for over a decade. It's not some trendy, woke move, it was all part of the plan. The only problem is if Furiosa doesn't make $, we aren't going to see that last Mad Max film.
Edit- but I do understand how normies might be turned off thinking it's just another garbage girl boss film. It's just a shame. The movie is terrific.
@@ioncewasmikey No it was woke garbage.
Yeah i am sick of woke crap I am tired of female leads, where is the male lead films.
Hollywood is in a curious place. Men like strong male leads. Most women like them as well, though in a different way. But the industry keeps churning out feminist/lesbian fantasies that they somehow think will/should resonate with the average person.
it tanked? good. im sick of hollywood.
People are pretending this has nothing to do with the lead actress not being enough of a draw. That’s definitely a huge part of it. Some stars can draw. Others might be perfectly good at acting, but they don’t draw crowds.
That and the fact that it’s not a property people particularly are asking for.
Correct. Taylor-Joy was superb in Queen's Gambit, but a character-based streaming series a _very_ different proposition to an action feature film. The audience doesn't transfer, and neither does the casting requirements.
Agree with message
@@rogerborg I love how woke apologists will claim they saw said mary sue's "other works" when she is a complete utter unknown that you knew nothing about but used IMDB to try to be a contrarian on the internet.
People saw the marketing and saw another girl boss agenda. People are done with Hollywood's toxic feminist agendas.
Han Solo and Wolverine both failed to make a successful prequel origin story, Furiosa had no chance.
Plus word of mouth only works if the other person is interested in the topic of the movie. The number of people that will watch a movie just because it is good is very, very small.
Yeah Han Solo didn't do well as no one cared about his young exploits. But when did they make a Wolverine prequel? Hugh Jackman always played Wolverine to my knowledge.
@jonfreeman9682 X-Men Origins: Wolverine in 2009. That's the one where Ryan Renolds first played Deadpool, so it's perfectly understandable that your brain refuses to remember it.
@@Hedgehobbit Oh I do remember that and loved the opening montage where Wolverine and Saber tooth fight side by side thru time. That was the best scene in the entire movie. Honestly didn't think the movie was that bad. The sequel was better and the final movie was perfection. It'll be tough to find a replacement for Hugh Jackman.
I'm pretty damn sure word-of-mouth is what happened to Fall Guy. That's a big reason why I didn't see it in theatres, and I'm glad I didn't. It was a really sub-par movie. Godzilla Minus One on the other hand got a real boost due to word-of--mouth
Never saw a single ad for it, I had heard "Furiosa" and I thought it was the next "Fast and Furious" movie. Would not pay to see either.
Why is this movie so long? No one talks about how long new movies are these days when the movie says absolutely nothing
I'm not sure Furiosa is as hollow as that.
I saw it in the theater and didn’t feel like it was long at all. Granted I am a big Mad Max fan, but I didn’t think it was too long.
They waste an Entire Hour on Furiosa's Childhood.
Bad writing.
One (of many) reasons that it's struggling at the box office is "delayed prequel/sequel-itis" - where the follow-up film takes far too long to finally get made and be released, so the fan fever moment has passed. I remember when Fury Road first came out the character of Furiosa was immediately very popular and the calls for a sequel (or prequel) were frequent - but that was also a decade ago.
Another example of delayed prequel/sequel-itis would be "Sin City 2". The first movie was a success and audiences wanted a sequel ASAP (even Robert Rodriguez was promising one as soon as one year later), but in the end it took 9 years and, similarly, the moment had passed. It's still a damn fine flick, albeit not as good as the original, but that 9 year cool-down period really hurt it.
Another major reason is the cost of living crisis. A trip to the cinema is quite the outlay these days, especially if you're wanting snacks, and for what? To be shoved through the fast food equivalent of the movie viewing world? No thanks, especially because of: ill behaved audiences, poorly kept theatres, lazily projected movies, the relentless procession of people charging to and from the toilets, children far too young to be there accompanying their parents (who don't know how to parent their children), and even the hassle of getting to a multiplex (mine's a 90 minute round trip).
There's also the issue of having someone to go with - a much bigger task for many people after the age of 30, and this in-turn relates to "delayed prequel/sequel-itis": chances are the audience who watched the previous/original movie at the cinema have aged-out of the multiplex-going effort. And why pay all that to see a movie ONCE in a bad environment when you could just hang back and rent it or buy it from the comfort of your own home - and with physical media you get extras to go along with being able to watch it as many times as you want (with as many people as you want).
Nope. They've girl bossed too much. Everyone's over it.
The movie from 2015 should have been called "Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga". Fury Road was Furiosa's movie. She drove the plot while Max was literally just along for the ride.
I went to see Mad Max: Fury Road. I was expecting a strong man story. It was not about Mad Max. Now u bring out Furiousa - I am not gonna go and watch. Plus I dont need to go out to see a cgi laden Fast and Furious in the desert.
We need to hold the line, NO MORE GIRL BOSSES.
Did you even watch the movie? Furiosa is not a girl boss. It is a female led movie in an action movie. Even Film threat already stated this.
@@rjhemedes Even though Furiosa is not a girl boss, we the audience has been burned by more than a decade with Hollywood's bs propaganda. It's a boy who cried wolf situation for Hollywood.
Yeah, she's not a girl boss.
Don't listen to these people you're quite correct.
Yeah no female leads just male leads
On the topic of too much content on streaming and most of it being garbage, I've begun ignoring new content and just rewatching old shows. Films have also been predominantly garbage, with their political & ideological messaging, and the overreliance on sequels & remakes. I've mostly stopped paying attention to Hollywood films, & I make it a point to go to theaters to see good independent films with actual creativity to support those who deserve it.
My Son and I watched the First 3 and Fury Road, and he plays the game. The trailer came out and I thought he would want to see it. He's 14 and goes: "It doesn't have Mad Max in it, I don't want to see it." 😬
Fury Road made $380 million worldwide with a guy named Max.
And now 9 years later Furiosa comes out about young Furiosas early years without a guy named Max.
Furiosas marketing made it look like another girl boss film.
It is the same SH1T they pulled with Indiana Jones...
Girl boss fatigue
In most film leading rolls
And TV shows aswell
Give me a bit of CZcams any day of the week
"Girl boss fatigue" Exactly. You could release Alien today and people would be the same even though its not even remotely woke.
@@anthonybrett Yes, but much like Ripley, Furiosa is no girl boss. It's a cool movie- people are missing out because they're too entrenched.
@@ioncewasmikeyFuriosa is nothing like Ripley, Ripley actually has a personality and emotions. Oh yeah, and she feels pain unlike girlboss Furiosa.
@AmbiguousMan724 lol you're going to tell me that Anya Taylor Joy didn't portray any emotion with her performance as Furiosa? I don't think we saw the same movie.
@@ioncewasmikey You keep hitting every post that does not love this movie. Are you getting paid by the reply?
Having a Furiosa prequel rather than a sequel to Fury Road is the mistake in my mind, along with a 10 year gap between the movies also killed this movie. From Fury Road, we know a goodly amount of Furiosa’s backstory and the “stakes” were non-existent because she and Immortan Joe have to survive because of the previous movie.
Just the sound of the word "Hollywood", fills me with nausea, disgust and contempt. Ten years and they squandered all and any good feeling. How's that modern audience thing going?
I think people are just meh about Hollywood right now. It's going to take extreme hype to get people out in big numbers, but it's not easy to pull off a Barbenheimer. They need to slash their budgets in half and manage their expectations. This isn't the 2010s where any old Marvel movie will do a billion. $150m+ budgets don't make sense anymore.
The story doesn't compel me the way Fury Road did and I only watched Fury Road for Max, who was made a supporting character. Which wasn't a pleasure, let me tell you. I'll wait till Netflix. (Theatre tickets, gas, food, parking in LA are a nightmare, too.)
This isn't mad max. This is gender swap desert zone, Girl Boss edition. These are films we neither asked for nor wanted. They are incapable of giving us what we want, and what we want is not essentially the same old same old, it isn't necessarily nostalgia, but more over its writers, producers and directors who not only respect the canon core material but have an innate ability to draw the correct inspirations from that material.
It doesn't matter if this stunning brave world tanks or massively bombs, it can bomb a hundred times, what matters is they've invested too much into it to stop. They've come too far, gained too much ground, so you get the double, the triple down, they keep calling, pushing. Money is inconsequential, and if it were to be they'd welcome it, they'd be able to flood the market with 10x the content half as cheap. As they say, they don't want you as a consumer, they rather you touch grass, you are not the demographic. Take them at their word, take them at the pattern of action they are on.
How is Furiosa a girl boss. It was made made by the same person who made all of the previous Mad Max movies. The film does not disrespect Max and Miller has never disrespected the fans.
You claim to what original films but how many have you seen in the past 2 years and how many of those were in theaters.
Do you even watch original films when their released or do you just complain about stuff.
@@sonicsnake44 Let's start with her kicking Chris Hemsworth's ass all over the screen. That's the very definition of a girl boss movie.
I AM DONE WITH THEATERS. I was going once a week before the Pandemic and the Woke War. I built my own Home Theater and after that I gave up going to Theaters. I'm willing to sacrifice the Imax experience, in favor of not dealing with all the other headaches Theaters cause me.
The first three Mad Max films ARE about Max. He changes as a person throughout those films.
Yes, God forbid we try to expand on the world of those films whatsoever lol
I long ago determined that I'm not giving Hollywood anymore money. My local library has a good DVD collection and if there's a movie I think I might want to see, I'll put a hold on it and get it from the library. But no more money from my pocket.
I like this guy he has great takes..and he was brave enough to say Fury Road wasn't a good movie
I do NOT want to see Mel Gibson to return, because I'm extremely tired of all of the nostalgia baiting. Tom Hardy did a great job.
MEN NEVER LIKED THE FURIOSA CHARACTER, SO WHY BOTHER. ALL SHE DID WAS SIDELINE MAD MAX.
Here’s another big reason….UHD movies are incredible to watch at home and so many people have a 75” to 100” tv to watch them on. That’s why I don’t go to the theater anymore.
It’s a huge combination of things, advertising is a huge issue because most people no longer have tv, listen to the radio and skip ads online. Adding a woman on the foster front and centre was a huge mistake.. I have honestly forgot the 1 and only mad max I watched with the thunder dome unfortunately, it was so long ago, I should rewatch them. Thanks for reminding me FT
Honestly before my fav CZcamsrs reviews i never knew the movie existed,
Then you add the huge apathy to Hollywood and the elite.
They waited waaaay too long to release this prequel to Fury Road. I think the old saying, "strike while the iron is hot" is apropos here. In this case, they not only struck after the iron was cold, but it's been so long that people forgot what a fucking iron even is.
Audience: Has it got Mad Max in it?
Studio: No.
Audience: Think i'll pass...
People understand whether word of mouth is organic or cultivated. Using influencers is very telling who it is marketing to. And also listening to what the product is about.
On the nose guys- A note on Streaming- It is bizarre to actually go to a big giant (XD) theater and have them show you a commercial espousing the benefits of NOT watching a great movie on a phone! YOU ARE ALREADY THERE! We know that! They need to tell the outer world about how stupid you are to watch MAD MAX on a phone- not the movie audience. The big question is the difference between watching an 85 inch 4K TV and a 70 foot XD House with 50 ATMOS speakers- Oh yea they never advertised that either... Hollywood is failing itself.
I'm just tired of girl power. Another movie with women lead
Anyone that had sisters, daughters, girlfriends knows that the overwhelming majority of women aren't really interested in these kind of movies, and men aren't really interest in watching Hollywood genderswipping their action figures, yet alone in a cult franchise.
There’s also an issue with Hollywood casting too many women who aren’t physically convincing as action heroes. This has been a thing since Buffy. Difference is back then it was a reversal of an old trope-a subversion, if you will. 😉
Now they do it unironically.
Most of the female action stars who really work well are above average height & good athletes in their own right. Charlie Theron & Sigourney Weaver are both pushing six foot & they’ve got naturally athletic builds. Linda Hamilton wasn’t especially tall but she worked out like a beast for T2 & she absolutely sold the role. Dancers also tend to do really well in action roles. They’re athletic, disciplined & very good at choreography and taking direction.
Not all recent films underperformed. Dune 2 is one of the most successful Sci films of all time - over $800 million at the box office and another $300 via streaming and other platforms.
It's interesting to hear from Americans about watching a movie at the cinema several times. I have never met a person who have seen a movie at the cinema more than once. I live in Sweden for reference.
The strike isn’t much of an argument to me. I bet most people don’t even know a strike happened. To me, the pandemic got people accustomed to streaming, and rampant inflation has made people very picky about what people will go see.
after several years of a lot of mediocre movies from the big studios, I think people are out of the habit of going to the theater. Once you get out of the habit of doing something, it's easier to ignore it. you've found something else to fill the time. I also think that many people are used to waiting a couple months and then watching movies for a few or zero dollars on their big screens at home.
They won’t stop with this crap until Hollywood is so broke that movies don’t exist anymore. They will never stop. RIP Hollywood. Someone else will come and make cool stuff when they are gone. Hopefully is will still be Americans.
sometimes spinoffs work, sometimes spinoffs do better than the thing it was spun off from, sometimes spinoffs completely tank.
HE IS A VERY VOCAL MALE FEMINIST. JUST WHAT THE WORLD REALLY NEEDS. MY GOD GEORGE, JUST STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The movie isn't woke. There's even a scene where one of the villains is going to "grape" someone & they never receive any sort of repercussion for it. Sure, it has a female lead. But anything that could be construed as a victory for her in the film was most assuredly hard fought to attain.
@@ioncewasmikeyStop saying this film isn't woke when Furiosa is basically a masculine heroine and Fury Road was clearly subtextually feminist.
Bring back Max!
Furiosa is feminine. She has a very touching love arc with Pretorian Jack. She is also not a girl-boss and is dependent on Pretorian Jack’s mentorship.
Gary and Critical Drinker both have confirmed Furiosa is not a girl boss. It is like Papa Gundam said. Hollywood has just girl-bossed too close to the sun. Now even good female lead action movies can’t succeed.
I love the films, but with no Mad Max I'm in no rush to see it and will watch at home.
Yeah. I’m sure the movie is a spectacle, but I just don’t care.
Girl boss movies, good or bad, turns me off automatically at this point
Great commentary, spot on... Keep up the good work!
The trailer wasn’t appealing to non mad max fans.
It wasn't made appealing enough to Mad Max fans either.
It's same reason Nobody watches the WNBA.
ENOUGH SAID?!
I see a woman as the main character on the movie poster: I don’t go watch the movie.
For me, Fury Road was ok. the stunt work was awesome. I only saw it once.
i am personally tired of the female character who cuts her hair to be empowered, men dislike it because of the experience with replacement of men with a chick in it, black and gay, and women want to watch a movie were the female protagonist have a look make over and an heterosexual romantic interest, and a big wedding final scene, people in hollywood should make a survey and buy or craft what people want to watch
She actually cuts her hair for a pretty good reason & I wouldn't necessarily say it was to empower herself.
@@ioncewasmikey i have seen it in many places that i thought this was the case, anyway it is a cliche already
Without giving away any spoilers Furiosa’s character is very well written and has clear motivations for all her actions. It was a great movie that I expect to become a cult classic even though it is not a blockbuster today.
@@ioncewasmikey another girl boss trope you keep denying exists, cope harder.
@@RenlangRen nobody is going to remember a shitty girl boss movie that nobody asked for in the first place.
Going to the movies is too expensive to risk wasting the money anymore….especially when we all know it’ll show up streaming somewhat soon anyway
My feelings. LA? Crazy expensive.
The WGA had no right to strike.
They were just off a 2 year shutdown and had hardly made anything good.
Word of mouth only works if people care about the genre. If you rave about a horror movie to someone who hates horror, your review doesn't matter. For a lot of people now, if you hype up a girl boss movie the word of mouth is irrelevant for the same reason.
It's the economy chipping away at everything.
Just look at the poster. They put tiny little Anya on it, twice, in full girlboss pose, bizarrely sized larger than Chris Hemsworth. With Immortan Joe - an interesting character that the Fury Road audience knew and actually appreciated - off in the background. Everything about their mis-marketing sent the wrong signal.
Anna Taylor Joy is a bit of a small fry so it's hard to believe her as girl boss doing bad assery fights. But hey it's the movies. Like in that movie prey a tiny 90 lb girl boss fighting a giant predator you have to suspend disbelief but still it was entertaining.
@@jonfreeman9682 she can't act to save her life, she's way too tiny to be beating the living shit out of a jakked giant like Hemsworth, and the political ideology is insufferable. There is nothing entertaining about that.
The low box office numbers are sad to me, because Furiosa is genuinely a wonderful film. I loved the story, the characters, and the cinematography. Personally, I felt apprehension due to all of the recent Mary Sue girl bosses in films. I was worried Furiosa would be one of these and just another disappointment. I was pleasantly relieved.
Word of mouth means nothing to most viewers who decide based upon their own gut instincts. Folks have a vibe about whether they want to see or engage with a product or not. The idea anyone is waiting around for the collective opinions of others to decide for themselves is really a part of the past. If George had made a Mad Max movie with Mad Max, none of these conversations would be happening. At least in regards to the built in fan base of Mad Max as a property. Casual audiences would always be a dice roll. But your built fan base is looking for something specific. They wanted Max.
People have had enough of the strong independant woman/girl boss trope
Great discussion ty
If they get Mel Gibson to play Max they give him his iconic V8 interceptor with a double barrel shotgun and while I am watching I hear " WE DONT NEED ANOTHER HERO (Thunderdome) " in the background I will freaken flip . I don't care if I am alone in the cinema that is what I want to watch .
Tom Hardy grunted his way through Fury Road.
I can't believe how many videos are devoted to this movie that flopped 😂😂
Well, it was a historic flop so maybe that's why.
It may have flopped, but it’s still the biggest new movie currently out. Bad news for Hollywood.
There have been some big hits in Hollywood post Barbenheimer such as Wonka, Dune: Part Two, Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire and even films like Meg 2: The Trench. However, I am hoping 2025 will be a lot better. All those films mentioned were from Warner Bros, haha.