Ep. 10 "REAR BRAKE" YCRS presents INSIDE INSIGHT with Ken Hill & Nick Ienatsch
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- čas přidán 27. 04. 2014
- Episode 10 - Rear Brake; Great tips and insights from lead instructors Ken Hill & Nick Ienatsch - Yamaha Champions Riding School. www.ridelikeachampion.com now at New Jersey Motorsports Park. An eyeballMoto production.
Most of the time I use the front and rear brake in conjunction with each other. At Champ School we learned how to "squeeze" the brakes properly especially in corners. Thanks a ton guys.
You're very welcome!
Thanks guys. This is something I'll need to practice during my next track days. I seem to remember reading an article a while back talking about Casey Stoner and how the Honda guys were impressed looking at the data from his bike with how much he used the rear brake to manage the bikes power and steady the chassis.
Since I'm not 'A'-group fast at the track I've been relying on my engine braking to slow the rear tire and 'pull' the bike back as I'm hard on the front brake coming into a corner. Typically I use my rear brake on the street, but just for slow speed maneuvering - again I normally rely on engine braking off the throttle when I'm going quick.
I like the example you showed of Cameron's bike where a spring has been added for better feel and a harder press is needed for engagement. I'm going to do the same to my bike as well - it is WAY too easy to lock it up as you intimated.
Great stuff. Please keep posting. I'll get to YCRS soon to help pay for all the free advice you guys are giving, I promise! ;-)
Each, I had given up the rear brake. Was forced to use it at the school. Incredible, the way the bike "settled" in the turns. Great school, great advice!
The Key Word is "squeeeze" the brake. Obviously, we aren't really 'squeezing' the rear, but the smooooth application is the key.
And sometimes just a slight 'drag' on the rear can help keep the bike lined up with the direction you want to go.
As the saying goes...it is better to have it and not need it, than to Need it and not have it! (smile) Of course, I realize the argument for saving weight, including unsprung weight on the rear wheel. But I am a Street Rider that does occasional Track Days...not a full-on Racer. So I wouldn't even Think of removing the rear brake.
I love that bike they are standing beside
The key is not to dismiss the rear completely, loading it smoothly, just floating over that pedal it, feeling it, and allowing it to put it to good use. Rear brakes do save asses, but the key is to know how and when to use it.
I hate it when I hear someone "advise" not to use one or the other brake... My father used to warn not to use the front brake in cornering because it would flip your ass off the bike... AND my uncle would warn against using the rear brake EVER because it's so easy to lock the rear tire while you're still at speed...
SO how the hell am I supposed to slow down or stop the bike if I have to???
OF COURSE you're supposed to use both brakes. That's why engineers and racers have gotten together to build the monsters for the tracks for generations. It's why modern day motorcycles come with BOTH brakes and they're independently controlled... It works better that way in most applications...
SO I learned early on, not to listen to my family when it came to riding motorcycles... I learned the so-called "hard way" on my own playing in the dirt when I was still durable enough to eat it and get back on the bike...
The best possible (i.e. "shortest") stopping distance starts with rolling off the throttle and adding some rear brake... This "loads" the front tire as well as slowing the engine down with your leg muscles... Then you move to the front brake and squeeze comfortably because you've loaded the front tire to dig at the asphalt... AND finally, clutching when the engine is down around idle speeds again, so you don't stall the bike.. You can release the rear brake as you add pressure to the front, since many bikes in a "panic stop" tend to lift the rear wheel entirely off the ground... BUT it's a judgment call and takes practice to really understand... WITH YOUR MOTORCYCLE.
Getting in the habit of using the rear brake EVERY time you work the brakes is a good way to learn HOW to use it... Most of us over-simplify the process. "The rear is for slowing down and the front is for hard stopping."... Just that the first step to "hard stop" is to slow down...
In curves, trail-braking can be done quite handily with the rear. Obviously it's not the only way to go, but you can't "stab" the front either and get by with it. It's even easier to lock the front tire instantly and cause a skid since there's no engine powering the thing... I even advise most noob's to drag the rear through most of their turns, just enough to light the brake light is often all you need AND it lets the poor bastards behind you know you're slowing down (especially with engine decelerating)... If you're worried about going wide, you can add a little more foot as necessary and the bike will "pull" you tighter to the inside...
Practice is key... like everything else that requires skill. Hope you like riding, because you'll only get better at it with more riding AND PRACTICING this stuff. ;o)