IJN Sakawa - Japan's Forgotten And Unfortunate Cruiser

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  • čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
  • If you bring up Operation Crossroads, there are certain ships that will be mentioned. Saratoga, for example. Or the battleships, ranging from Arkansas to Pennsylvania. And that's just the American ones. You'll also probably hear about Nagato and Prinz Eugen, the war prizes.
    What you probably won't hear about, except maybe a footnote, is Sakawa.
    The second Japanese warship present at Bikini. A light cruiser, that was a leaky mess by the time of the tests. And was, for all intents and purposes, obliterated by the first test.This is a ship that typically gets only a brief mention, if anything at all.
    Which is a shame, because she's a nice ship. Simply one that never had the chance, through no fault of her own, to see real combat.
    Further Reading:
    www.amazon.com/Japanese-Cruis...
    www.amazon.com/Imperial-Japan...
    www.amazon.com/Warships-Imper...
    www.combinedfleet.com/sakawa_t...

Komentáře • 56

  • @picklerick8785
    @picklerick8785 Před 25 dny +44

    So I wondered when I watched Godzilla Minus One why the IJN destroyers had English names painted on the sides. I thought it was the English subtitle thing they do for kanji in Japanese films and anime, and now know it was historically accurate. Those kaiju making mofos did their homework!

  • @kirishima638
    @kirishima638 Před 25 dny +17

    She survived the war without damage. I’d say she was a lucky ship.

  • @petestorz172
    @petestorz172 Před 25 dny +20

    Agano class cruisers' 6" guns were early 1910s vintage. Their rate of fire was only a little better that that of 8" guns, making their AA usefulness doubtful. By way of contrast, Brooklyn and Cleveland class cruisers' 6" guns' rate of fire was ~50% greater, and the shell weight 30% greater. The Brooklyns and Clevelands were turret farms compared to the Aganos' six 6" guns.

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 Před 25 dny +6

      Mind the Aganos were functionally a 'super-destroyer,' intended to be a command-center for flotillas of modern destroyers like the Akizukis and Shimakazes. They were labeled cruisers because they conformed to pre-war cruiser definitions and were armored, but they were really only armed and armored to fight the ever-bigger destroyers taking to the seas in the later war. The old guns were not impressive weapons for fighting cruisers, but even the biggest US destroyers would not want to take a hit from the big shells they fired. The armor was not thick, but thick enough to keep most Allied destroyer shells out of the citadel at expected ranges.
      What really mattered was that they could carry the best in Japanese RADAR comfortably, giving Flotillas leaders much better "vision" than was the case for most of the war where the IJN destroyer fleet had little to no RADAR. If the war had gone on longer and Japan had the fuel left to run them, destroyer raids under the lead of a ship like Sakawa could have really been painful to American forces as they spread ever thinner to cover the enormity of Japan's waters.

    • @damndirtyrandy7721
      @damndirtyrandy7721 Před 22 dny

      I believe you leave out some important details. Besides the huge Pacific Fleet, large segments of the USAAF in Europe would supplement the presence in the Pacific, as well as some allied support although I have little faith in “our friends” willingness to continue fighting the war at the intensity they did when it was at their front door (Australia, New Guinea excepted). When the ASW tactics are applied to the Japanese home waters looking for surface ships as well as subs, there’d be little places for Japanese task forces to hide.

  • @JGCR59
    @JGCR59 Před 24 dny +4

    It'd say she might have been fortunate as unlike Yahagi her crew survived to take part in the post war recovery of Japan

  • @saltyvanilla3304
    @saltyvanilla3304 Před 25 dny +18

    As sad as their careers were, you can't help but love the looks of the modern IJN CL's, if you didn't knew about the "specs" i could easily see them getting mixed with the CA's.
    Regarding Sakawa, i remember reading that after the blast she burned for 24hrs
    In case you didn't had enough missfortune...

    • @Loucap_
      @Loucap_ Před 25 dny +3

      i personally think the last/modern japanese light cruisers were quite hideous, especially with the large scout airplane hangars and torpedo cuttouts.

  • @Wayne.J
    @Wayne.J Před 25 dny +7

    Skynea, was flagship of Destroyer SQUADRON 11. Sakawa replaced Tama as flagship of the training or newly commissioned destroyers, like the Matsus and Tachibanas before they were usually assigned to DesDiv43, 52 and 53.
    Destroyer DIVISION 11 was Fubuki, Hatsuyuki and Shirayuki with Murakumo, Yugiri and Amagiri reinforcing to replace losses. Disbanded on 15 Dec1943.
    Keep up the good work. Love the videos

  • @straswa
    @straswa Před 25 dny +5

    Great work Skynea. I like the Agano class cruisers, poor Sakawa.

  • @tomlindsay4629
    @tomlindsay4629 Před 25 dny +9

    Ignoring politics, that's a depressing tale of a ship.
    Thanks for posting!

  • @TrickiVicBB71
    @TrickiVicBB71 Před 25 dny +3

    Thank you for providing more information on this ship. Wikipedia and Combined Fleet don't offer much

  • @alephalon7849
    @alephalon7849 Před 23 dny +4

    Sakawa's story has a different level of bad luck...

  • @69Applekrate
    @69Applekrate Před 24 dny +1

    thank you for another interesting and informative video. well done and recommended

  • @OriginalCoalRollers
    @OriginalCoalRollers Před 11 dny

    Best channel on CZcams by far

  • @alexvisser5913
    @alexvisser5913 Před 25 dny +8

    Sinking Eugen in crossroads was a huge shame

    • @picklerick8785
      @picklerick8785 Před 25 dny +2

      I really wish the USN had decided to bring Nagato back to America as a war trophy, which would have possibly saved her to be the last IJN ship to survive to today. But I'm a huge IJN geek.

    • @patrickmccrann991
      @patrickmccrann991 Před 25 dny +2

      She wasn't sunk at Crossroads. She was towed to Kwajalein for possible clean up. While anchored in the atoll, she capsized overnight and sank. She is still there today, a very popular dive sight.

    • @alexvisser5913
      @alexvisser5913 Před 24 dny +1

      @picklerick8785 well there is Mikasa a pre dreadnought

    • @AaaBbb-ff1pn
      @AaaBbb-ff1pn Před 10 dny

      admirals were playing with the enemy toys back there. it's like giving a toy of hated kid to another one. he will play with no fear of broke them, viceversa the hidden purpose is to destroy them.

  • @saparotrob7888
    @saparotrob7888 Před 25 dny +1

    Another interesting topic. I can't say I ever heard of her.

  • @RayyMusik
    @RayyMusik Před 25 dny +5

    A beautiful and potentially capable ship, perhaps comparable to the RN Arethusas. How weird to equip it with those antique main guns!

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 Před 25 dny +2

      Japan could not produce enough new guns to meet the needs of the fleet and they had a supply of good-condition older-design guns which were more than good enough to kill destroyers, which is all a destroyer-flotilla leader really needs to be capable of.

    • @mbryson2899
      @mbryson2899 Před 25 dny +1

      I bet they picked up the recycling habit from the RN.

    • @RayyMusik
      @RayyMusik Před 25 dny

      @@genericpersonx333 It might be difficult to hit an enemy destroyer with six slow-firing guns. ;)

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 Před 25 dny +3

      @@RayyMusik So here is the thing: they were not that slow.
      The IJN rated them for about six shots a minute.
      The Mk 16 6-inch guns on the USS Cleveland, around thirty years later, were only rated for eight to ten rounds a minute.
      Yes, faster, but we are talking just a matter of seconds per shell.
      Yet another thing to remember is the Agano Class were not intended to sail alone, but with a small fleet of destroyers with them. By 1944, this included very modern destroyers like Akizuki and Shimakaze, and they would have their modern 100mm and 127mm guns, so in a gun fight, the Aganos would be shooting slower, but even a single hit from them could be lethal to a Fletcher or the like.

    • @patrickmccrann991
      @patrickmccrann991 Před 25 dny

      ​@@genericpersonx333 Big difference firing 6 guns compared to 12 or 15 like guns on the Clevelands and Brooklyns.

  • @josephhungerford8348
    @josephhungerford8348 Před 25 dny +1

    Very interesting topic keep it up the great content 👍

  • @Moredread25
    @Moredread25 Před 25 dny +5

    Survived the war to get nuked. What a life.

  • @gar6446
    @gar6446 Před 23 dny +1

    Anti-sonar coating for submarines, surely.
    Unless it was anti radar for periscopes or conning towers.

  • @kylecarmichael5890
    @kylecarmichael5890 Před 25 dny +2

    She displaced 2/3rd of a modern Burke.

  • @-NINE-THREE-
    @-NINE-THREE- Před 25 dny +3

    For Al Gore's Rhythm!

  • @bkjeong4302
    @bkjeong4302 Před 24 dny +1

    Deserves to be forgotten.

  • @AaaBbb-ff1pn
    @AaaBbb-ff1pn Před 10 dny

    admirals were playing with the enemy toys back there. it's like giving a toy of hated kid to another one. he will play with no fear of broke them, viceversa the hidden purpose is to destroy them.

  • @hilanddoug
    @hilanddoug Před 25 dny +2

    Its interesting that they would use Western letters for the name on the side of this ship.

    • @hilanddoug
      @hilanddoug Před 25 dny +1

      Ah, the reason makes perfect sense. Thank you.

  • @suspiciousminds1750
    @suspiciousminds1750 Před 24 dny +2

    Wait, so American sailors were arrested for sabotage...on a Japanese ship?

    • @user-ci7xi5kv8p
      @user-ci7xi5kv8p Před 22 dny

      No they were arrested for sabotaging a former Japanese ship now an American ship as they should have been.

    • @suspiciousminds1750
      @suspiciousminds1750 Před 22 dny

      @@user-ci7xi5kv8p I know, it was a joke. I was pointing out the irony. ;-)

  • @kiwibonsai2355
    @kiwibonsai2355 Před 24 dny +3

    Remember the native population of the islands were used a lab rats then peasant labour.

  • @Backwardlooking
    @Backwardlooking Před 25 dny +2

    👍🏻✌️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

  • @CorePathway
    @CorePathway Před 25 dny +1

    Deserves to be forgotten-played no important role in anything

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 Před 24 dny +1

      Agreed.
      Unfortunately, far too many equally or even more unimportant and undeserving-of-attention vessels from both sides of the war are wrongly hyped up as important.

  • @davidtong565
    @davidtong565 Před 24 dny +3

    A sad story, she could have had a long but peaceful career had she been saved

  • @aaronstreeval3910
    @aaronstreeval3910 Před 25 dny +2

    I’ve liked to imagine a 2nd more irrational operation ten-go
    Lead by ijn nagato and ijn Sakawa along with light cruisers kitakami and kashima
    And about a dozen destroyers
    Thrown against a battle line of American battleships. Somewhere in the broad vicinity of of the volcanic island tori-shima