1972 Epiphone needs a Doctor

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  • čas přidán 6. 01. 2020
  • Early Japanese production Epiphone 12 string has a top that's deforming from string tension. Whatever shall we do?

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  • @karlstevens7062
    @karlstevens7062 Před 4 lety +99

    You know why lots of 12 strings in the last month ? .... everybody pulling out the 12 string to play Greg lakes father christmas and finding they have all moved since last xmas lol.

  • @perihelion7798
    @perihelion7798 Před 4 lety +51

    I really appreciate the fact, that, like Jerry Rosa, you treat every instrument with patience and respect.
    That goes for a $100.00 or $7500.00 guitar. Thank you for that.
    I don't like repair folks that constantly complain about an instrument in for repair. If you feel that way, just pass on the job, or be quiet. A world of fun stuff is not so funny at times - showing disrespect.

    • @waybackplayback1347
      @waybackplayback1347 Před 4 lety +3

      Mr. Woodford is not even in the same galaxy as the person you referenced.

    • @perihelion7798
      @perihelion7798 Před 4 lety

      @@waybackplayback1347 It's my understanding that we all are currently in the Milky Way galaxy. Jerry Rosa has been in the repair and luthier business longer than Mr. Woodford has been alive.
      He repairs all stringed instruments, and produces $7,500 mandolins, and well as fine custom guitars.
      It's pretty obvious that you haven't watched many of Jerry's videos, or you're just an ignorant troll.

    • @comajoebuck999
      @comajoebuck999 Před 4 lety

      Unless, of course, the slang grumbling is part of an entertaining shtick....

    • @perihelion7798
      @perihelion7798 Před 4 lety

      @@comajoebuck999 Possible, but then it's a very unattractive shtick, IMO.

    • @perihelion7798
      @perihelion7798 Před 3 lety

      @k halliday Most Canadians are pretty nice folks. The country is huge and beautiful. I have really enjoyed my 3 trips to the Great White North.

  • @davidthebiker2955
    @davidthebiker2955 Před 4 lety +66

    I love watching how carefully you worked on this guitar, even though it's not a high end instrument. Great example of how to do quality work no matter what guitar it is.

    • @MiikeyLawless
      @MiikeyLawless Před 4 lety +6

      Because even cheap guitars can play great when someone like him works out the kinks. Keep in mind that lots of "high end vintage" guitars arent made all that well by todays standards.

    • @michaelgarrow3239
      @michaelgarrow3239 Před rokem

      As a craftsman I only have one level I work to.
      I’m sure he does also.

    • @user-wr9pk4lu8s
      @user-wr9pk4lu8s Před 4 měsíci

      Yes I agree he took great care to repair a none high end guitar although it's 50+ yrs old, my 1975 epiphany has bad belly bow causing very high action, needs somebody like him to look at it, big problem I live in the UK

  • @MarshallGTV
    @MarshallGTV Před 4 lety +56

    I know that epoxy area was a pain, but dang it man you are an artist! Wonderful work!

  • @jts3339
    @jts3339 Před 4 lety +26

    Twelve strings are like vintage British cars: They’re extra work to maintain and worth it if you love them, but they’re not for everyone.

    • @joesantamaria5874
      @joesantamaria5874 Před 4 lety +1

      jts3339 not for everyone is correct. I saw a guy by the side of the road today with the bonnet up staring at the motor of his lovely old MGB as I nonchalantly breezed past in my Toyota Solara convertible. No spanner kit for me, mate.

  • @vinniesilvagio
    @vinniesilvagio Před 4 lety +8

    "It just has to be done". It's always a joy to watch you work.

  • @mrclaus859
    @mrclaus859 Před 4 lety +9

    You sir are a fantastic artist. Thanks I could watch you all day.

  • @miaoupha2370
    @miaoupha2370 Před 4 lety +1

    One top notch video to begin this new year, thank you!

  • @euro1859
    @euro1859 Před 4 lety +8

    Respect for the calm way you deal with and overcome the extra problems that are often found with older guitars also how the quality of repair is always the uppermost thing in your mind,great craftsmanship.

  • @briefcandle
    @briefcandle Před 4 lety +2

    Fellow luthier here. JLD systems are fantastic! The only brand I know of that comes with them from the factory is Breedlove, but man is it great to essentially have a truss rod for the body.

  • @dalgguitars
    @dalgguitars Před 4 lety +4

    Thanks again for such a great video.

  • @OpSic66
    @OpSic66 Před 3 lety +2

    This is the work of a TRUE artist. The bridge saddle repair alone was beautiful. You can literally hear how tight the body of the guitar was, greater sustain from the body and new strings, and the new strings added some much lacking brightness of the sound.
    Excellent job, as always.

  • @harlanbarnhart4656
    @harlanbarnhart4656 Před 4 lety +3

    Never seen one of those bridge Dr. things. Amazingly effective. Great vid as usual. Keep up the good work.

  • @randelcross
    @randelcross Před 4 lety

    Love your passion to to the repair correctly... nicely done!!

  • @vanshankguitars
    @vanshankguitars Před 4 lety

    Awesome work as expected! I learn so much from your videos.

  • @richardcarle786
    @richardcarle786 Před 3 lety +1

    Just wanted to say that I really enjoy watching your work. I play a little bit and if I ever needed any work done I would hope to find someone that is as dedicated as you are to doing it right! Keep em coming and thanks for sharing your work with us!!

  • @mojoden
    @mojoden Před 4 lety

    Beautiful work on that saddle. Very inspiring.

  • @bushcraftsupply7407
    @bushcraftsupply7407 Před 4 lety

    Beautiful work! Thank you for the great videos.

  • @mhaight
    @mhaight Před 4 lety +2

    I find your care and skill with repair and correction to instruments even when not of great value actually adds value to the the instrument..in my mind. I appreciate your skill and professionalism. It's a pleasure to watch you work.

  • @altruisticphilanthropic4647

    "Don't do that, okay? Come on. Yeah...yeah...great." Words to live by, indeed. It's always a sheer pleasure watching and listening to your videos...truly. The care you give these ol' birds...somethin' special, brother. Not a great guitar, of course, but for strummin' and fillin' in some sonic space...none too shappy... she sounds poiphectly phunky...in a "12-stringy" way. Please never cease posting...ever. May 2020 bring you health, peace, and endless giggles..."Yeah...yeah...great."

  • @nma0ne
    @nma0ne Před 4 lety

    I'm constantly impressed by your eye for detail and workmanship. Your channel is my favourite luthier content

  • @petedazer3381
    @petedazer3381 Před 2 lety

    Beautiful work!

  • @WackyT08
    @WackyT08 Před rokem

    Love the sound of a 12-string acoustic!

  • @JorgeWeerts
    @JorgeWeerts Před 4 lety

    Happy New Year. Fantastic work!

  • @poodlenme
    @poodlenme Před 4 lety

    Wow! After the repair, this guitar came alive! Great video! Thanks

  • @BessieBopOrBach
    @BessieBopOrBach Před 4 lety +2

    Brave and inspiring repair work. I love your channel. The details about Canadian checking and the weird epoxy repair were delightful. Really cool saddles. And it sounds amazing at the end.

  • @stevesstrings5243
    @stevesstrings5243 Před 4 lety

    Wow! I love to watch your work!

  • @jonbanner5823
    @jonbanner5823 Před 3 lety

    I really enjoy all your videos! Great work! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and I must say its very refreshing to see a good luthier that actually knows how to play.

  • @jsimo65
    @jsimo65 Před 2 lety

    I really enjoy watching your work. tks

  • @donaldholman9070
    @donaldholman9070 Před 4 lety

    Great video. Marvellous work. Thank you for sharing.

  • @1986yamahafazer69
    @1986yamahafazer69 Před 4 lety

    Huge difference! Another exceptional repair!

  • @thomasbarker7735
    @thomasbarker7735 Před 3 lety

    I could watch you repair guitars all day great work again Ted

  • @kylemoran4343
    @kylemoran4343 Před 4 lety +3

    That plug you installed in the epoxy area turned out splendid !! The before workmanship was in a minor key, your work is always in the Major Key :-) I enjoy learning.

  • @richardalanprow283
    @richardalanprow283 Před 4 lety

    As usual top notch work!!

  • @garywhitt98
    @garywhitt98 Před 4 lety

    Excellent video, Ted! Many thanks!

  • @gryfandjane
    @gryfandjane Před 6 měsíci

    My goodness. I owned one of those when I was in Junior High School back in the early 70s. In fact, a buddy of mine had a matching one, and we played a few events together. I always loved the rosette on this model, and seeing it up close in your video really triggered the nostalgia.

  • @grene1955
    @grene1955 Před 3 lety

    Sweet sounding guitar after all the repair work...another fantastic job!

  • @nicolen.9642
    @nicolen.9642 Před 2 lety

    Remarkable work Ted. The saddle, the neck reset...amazing 👍

  • @mel00w
    @mel00w Před 4 lety

    Sounds great, well done. I've been procrastinating on an old friend's Takamine 12 string with a cracked bridge and similar belly issue. Now I'm ready to get after it. Thank you!

  • @R.Nashoba
    @R.Nashoba Před 4 lety

    Nice work!
    Enhanced the tone greatly

  • @pauleandersonmusic
    @pauleandersonmusic Před 4 lety

    Nice playing at the end there! I always learn something from your videos. Thanks so much for posting them.

  • @ravingcyclist624
    @ravingcyclist624 Před 4 lety

    Happy New Year! Excellent video! Thanks !!

  • @markk3877
    @markk3877 Před 4 lety

    Beautiful work Ted!

  • @nandom3
    @nandom3 Před 4 lety

    She came alive!! Excelent job as usual!!

  • @pokepatrick7887
    @pokepatrick7887 Před 4 lety

    Just leaving a comment to tell you how therapeutic your videos are. While watching your videos I can just completely relax and dream away. Thanks for that!

  • @mushroomsamba82
    @mushroomsamba82 Před 4 lety +3

    Wow, turned out to be a pretty damn nice sounding guitar in the end

  • @chrispatrick5715
    @chrispatrick5715 Před 3 lety

    You sir, are a master of your craft and a helluva teacher, and as many have commented, your voice is very soothing.
    Blessings from Australia.

  • @paulscott2502
    @paulscott2502 Před 4 lety

    The post repair sound is so much more vibrant and fuller. Nice job.

  • @ThomasZachary
    @ThomasZachary Před 3 lety +1

    That bridge repair is breathtaking! I just paused it at 10:46... The wood filler, the new saddle, the string winding ends not showing any more. That is a work of art. And of course your entire video production values and voice overs are spot on!

  • @haroldcook2146
    @haroldcook2146 Před 4 lety

    Just found your channel and immediately hit the subscribe button. While I’ve more or less retired, I still do an occasional luthier job, and I really appreciate watching a craftsman at work.

  • @darrellblanchard2362
    @darrellblanchard2362 Před 4 lety +29

    Sounds like more than just new string difference to my aging ears!

    • @tfdharley1360
      @tfdharley1360 Před 4 lety +2

      It sounded much truer in the sense of tuning. Probably the new saddle did the trick. Hard to tell, because he didn’t play up the neck in the old config. Sounds good though.

    • @nobilismaximus
      @nobilismaximus Před 4 lety +6

      Bridge Doctors do make a substantial difference. You’ll not hear the benefit through a web video. Have used several, I think Breedlove guitars use them as standard out of the box.

  • @magnolia972
    @magnolia972 Před 4 lety

    sounds fantastic!

  • @robertdeen8741
    @robertdeen8741 Před 4 lety

    The way you filed the saddle to compensate is truly marvelous. Very nice work.

  • @nla0987654321
    @nla0987654321 Před 4 lety +1

    Your work is amazing, I love these videos! I wish you was my local luthier!

  • @chadwaller6072
    @chadwaller6072 Před 4 lety

    Thx so much for the great content. Always learn something from your vids

  • @nakana_212
    @nakana_212 Před 4 lety

    Subsrcribed and followed. The way that saddle was routed came out beautiful. You woke that guitar up man. It’s alive now!!

  • @johnfrederick6164
    @johnfrederick6164 Před 4 lety

    So enjoy your videos as always amazing work

  • @bee.normal
    @bee.normal Před 4 lety +2

    11:20 that's a fantastic looking saddle! You can see the time spent on it.

  • @barberelectronics5672
    @barberelectronics5672 Před 4 lety

    Always great stuff, keep it up and thank you!

  • @Sungodv
    @Sungodv Před 4 lety

    Happy new year to a great luthier...

  • @FunnyBunnyShowNYC
    @FunnyBunnyShowNYC Před 4 lety

    I like your work. Thanks for this...

  • @bldallas
    @bldallas Před 3 lety

    Another great job. I’m fascinated by the device you installed; wish the video showed more of that work. Great job on the saddle slot and new compensated saddle. Very cool.

  • @onlywhenprovoked
    @onlywhenprovoked Před 4 lety +1

    A friend and I installed the bridge doctor in one of mine about 20 years ago and it worked great. It was a cheap but good player and the belly got wayyy worse than this example. Straightened it right out and I swear it improved the tone and bounce a ton. You sound right at home on a 12 string. Thanks for the lessons, you're one hell of a skilled luthier.

  • @johngran4582
    @johngran4582 Před 4 lety

    Great videos, very informative. Thank you!

  • @johnnycakeslim
    @johnnycakeslim Před 2 lety

    Wow. What a great video. I just came back to California with my Taylor 12 string and its got high action and a warped top. That bridge doctor looks like the ticket. Excellent video. Thanks

  • @jameshocking1188
    @jameshocking1188 Před 3 lety

    Great job and great save!
    A true craftsman at work !

  • @Furtheronmusic
    @Furtheronmusic Před 4 lety +2

    I used a bridge doctor in a yamaha 12 string. I agree with your statement that it brought the guitar "alive" a bit more.

  • @unfreundlich7168
    @unfreundlich7168 Před 4 lety +1

    happy new year. the bolt on system looks like the one on my 63 framus :D i like that a lot!!!! so repair friendly

  • @georgelackey622
    @georgelackey622 Před 4 lety +1

    Very funny that I just had 3 of those in my shop in the last two months! Two were 12 strings and one 6 string, with various issues.One was a Kalamazoo the other two were Japan. Very handy having a bolt on neck.

  • @lawrencecoffeyjr1300
    @lawrencecoffeyjr1300 Před 3 lety

    I wish I lived in your town...outstanding work...

  • @zapa1pnt
    @zapa1pnt Před 4 lety +1

    I have used the "Bridge Doctor" on several guitars, myself. I think they are great.
    Some folks argue they mute the response of the top plate, but I think that depends
    on the bracing of the top. In any case, if you need it, you need it.
    I have one on my Martin D-28 and it still sounds great.
    On a 12 string, I think they are indispensable, due to the great stress pulling at the bridge.
    I would even put one on a, relatively, new 12 string, just to avoid later problems.

  • @samerhaddad280
    @samerhaddad280 Před 4 lety

    it's so peaceful watching you create magic with these stringed instruments. that last number you were playing sounded like something from the YES album...

  • @mikeregan3265
    @mikeregan3265 Před 4 lety

    Thanks, that was great to watch!

  • @raysaade
    @raysaade Před 3 lety

    I have an Epiphone ft 165 12 string! Just finished repairing it, had a neck shim, some loose bracing re-glued and a nut replacement. Pretty dope guitar that I inherited from my father.

  • @JohnSmith-ym4sl
    @JohnSmith-ym4sl Před 4 lety

    You do beautiful work very entertaining thanks for sharing!

  • @jonahguitarguy
    @jonahguitarguy Před 4 lety

    Another great video twoodfrd! I like that you just press forward and do the repair even though you may not have bid the job high enough. Very easy to miss things when estimating. I know from my own mistakes. I've had great results with the bridge doctor I even made my own to save a few bucks.

  • @chrisdundas6670
    @chrisdundas6670 Před 4 lety +1

    This gives me hope for my 60's Yamaha FG180!

  • @chrisclarke3670
    @chrisclarke3670 Před 2 měsíci

    Great fix on this guitar. I always enjoy you answering potential questions before some asks, like in regards to the white bridge pin.

  • @arnienonymous4458
    @arnienonymous4458 Před 4 lety +6

    Wow, another great repair job! Hope you didn't go too much in the hole with the extra work required. To my ear, the after demo seemed to exhibit a bit more commanding sustain - maybe strings, but more likely both strings and repair.

  • @NelsonGago
    @NelsonGago Před 4 lety

    Wow. What a difference. Great job Ted.

  • @RMosack
    @RMosack Před 2 lety

    Another great video. I absolutely love the intonated new saddle. New strings or not, the "after" sounds so much better.

  • @rockers2rockers616
    @rockers2rockers616 Před rokem

    Great work, nice result.

  • @painted8
    @painted8 Před 6 měsíci

    Appreciate the subtle compliment to technical writing ... ;)

  • @RedHeadGuitar
    @RedHeadGuitar Před 4 lety

    THANKS for that! My cheap-ass small body guitar which I take with me almost everywhere had developed the same symptom and I was kinda afraid I'd lose it, but with a bridge doctor (installed the drill-free brass pin version) it's back in perfect shape now.

  • @jimmac521
    @jimmac521 Před 4 lety

    that saddle is a work of art!

  • @SamFugarino
    @SamFugarino Před 4 lety

    Great work!

  • @henryhunter5026
    @henryhunter5026 Před 4 lety

    I once owned one of these early Japanese made Epiphone acoustic guitars. Mine was a 6 string but the construction was very similar to the 12 string in your video with the bolt on neck. I always regret selling it as it sounded pretty good when fitted with a quality set of strings .

  • @treorross99
    @treorross99 Před 7 dny

    Great work

  • @arctichare8185
    @arctichare8185 Před 4 lety

    I like watching your videos a lot. They are interesting and helpful. I have also actually installed a couple of bridge doctors in the past. One, I recall, was on a Seagull dreadnought style. I am not a luthier by any means. But I think most anyone who is used to doing arts and crafts or carpentry work would be able to put one in. (Although I think few would be able to do such a neat job as you did on that saddle replacement!) I also like that you are a Canadian, which means I can relate better to some of the things you say, and you have a comfortable tone of energy.

  • @richardjohnson9702
    @richardjohnson9702 Před 4 lety

    WOW!!!!
    Big difference in projection AND sound!
    ESPECIALLY for a laminate top!!

  • @giovanni5063
    @giovanni5063 Před 2 lety

    In 1972 my wife gifted me an Epiphone 6 string bolt neck guitar. That guitar was super cheesy , super high action, a worthless adjustable composite metal and plastic saddle a zero fret and not even close to be able to intonate. Over the years it sat in the case unplayed until I opened it up and saw that the neck had broke loose under tension. What happened was the neck block split and the brace under the neck end of the soundhole had fallen away and the neck crushed the rossette and soundboard under it while causing the side under the neck to rotate and crack. I have watched many of Woodfords videos and I decided to try and repair this POS. The guitar is now super playable, The neck is flat the action is terrific and I made a fossil walrus ivory saddle. The intonation was adjusted by gluing small bits of the ivory under the strings to make it in tune up the neck. There are shims, braces and lots of super glue. Than you TW for your excellent instruction. Best regards, Gio.

  • @alphabarbs
    @alphabarbs Před 4 lety +4

    You know, it sounded fine before, but after, it sounded like it had been for a morning run, had a shower, coffee, and was stepping out of the house 10 minutes early :-)
    Total game-change of a repair job :-D

  • @no1beatsj
    @no1beatsj Před 4 lety

    Another amazing finished

  • @eparkyanovitch
    @eparkyanovitch Před 3 lety

    Really great video! I have a Nagoya 12 string from the 70s (Japanese Martin Clone with a plywood top) that had a very similar problem. I bought the guitar right after David Bowie died -- primarily to play 5 Years in my living room. It had a sticker from Veneman's in Rockville, MD, which was my dad's go-to store in the 80s, so I figured that was a sign and paid $50 for it. Anyway, I realized after I got it home that it had a badly deformed top -- similar to what you show here (5mm on each side) but with a bad dish in front of the dish as well. The action was also quite high. This was in 2016 so your video hadn't dropped, but I ended up following a similar path.
    With this being the first guitar I had attempted to repair, I did a lot of forum searching and read about the Bridge Doctor and decided on that route. However, prior to installing the Doctor, I tried to do flatten the soundboard a bit with humidity. I had seen a video by Dan Erlewine where he uses the TJ Thomson Belly Reducer and was inspired to try a similar path. So I pulled the bridge off (it had the same two bolts), stuck a wet sponge in a cup inside the body and fitted clamps and cauls to help correct the deformation. I left it for about a week, adjusting every day, and I think it helped a little. After the repair and adjustment, the top feels stabilized. The bow, as well as the action, is improved, but the dish, for the most part, is still there.
    How deformed would a top be for you to consider replacing it in situation like this? I've thought about replacing this top just for the experience and practice but I don't know how much value it would add to the instrument and I wouldn't want to destroy it completely unnecessarily.
    Love the videos. Also a big Barrett's Privateers fan.

  • @madduck692002
    @madduck692002 Před 3 lety

    That was the most beautiful 12 - string, I've ever heard!

  • @AiMR
    @AiMR Před 4 lety

    Beautiful work on that new bridge bro.

  • @jonathanmemole4811
    @jonathanmemole4811 Před 4 lety +1

    At 1:37 I thought: "that looks like a bunch of epoxy...nah, it can't be if he's saying it's a good thing." You made short work of it in the end though. A fantastic and artful job as always!

  • @Pgcmoore
    @Pgcmoore Před 4 lety

    outstanding!!!

  • @samk4801
    @samk4801 Před rokem

    Wow. Of all the before/after demos, this was the most dramatic. The sound went from a 6-string sound to a real 12-string sound. Amazing.

  • @f1s2hg3
    @f1s2hg3 Před 3 lety

    Words to live by!