By far the best mid length on the planet JS Big Baron Review - WOOLY TV #25
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- JS Big Baron Review - WOOLY TV #25
Wooly weighs 87kg/192lb and is 6'1"/187cm tall
Wooly is riding a 6'8" x 20 3/4" x 2 5/8" - 38.7L
The Big Baron is JS' first attempt at a Mid Length and they smashed it out of the park (according to Wooly). A pin-tail, twin fin that can be ridden from 5'10" all the way up to 7'6". Watch Wooly show that this board isn't just for the smaller days cruising around home but is super versatile and can be ridden just like a shorter board. With finely pinched rails and lots of foam up front, this board is defiantly worth a spot in your quiver.
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@jsindustriessurfboards - Sport
Great review, and the board suits your style. Got a 6'8" Big Baron a few weeks back, and it's fast becoming my favourite board. Just more fun than smaller boards, in a lot of conditions we see.
Yeah it’s a great board! I love mine.
Nice one Wooly, great review and good to see it surfed in some crud as well as decent waves.
Plenty of crud around here :)
Thank you for doing this review. I have one on hold, hopefully arriving by the end of September. Not much about this board online other than the JS Promo videos.
Board looks like it has crazy down the line projection. Can wait to get mine now!!!
Goes so well! I had a great time on this one. Where are you located?
@@WoolyTV great surfing on this
ONE.
Waiting for your mid6 thunderbolt
Test
Yup agree !
Not much online and Woollys review rocks !!
I also have one on hold this review has sealed it for me 🤙
Cheers !
Great review, and ripping as always! You make it look so fun, can’t wait to get mine! 🤙🏼
Do you have one coming? What size?
@@WoolyTV Just picked up the 7' yesterday in FCS with the same fins you rode, and it worked sick in my small local reef break - coming from a shortboard, this was my first midlength, and I'm already addicted to the glide and projection off the long rail like you mentioned! So stoked on your surfing, I feel like you could rip on any board! Thanks for the excellent videos!!
@@spacey_77 No worries! Glad you like the board
Good stuff wooly. Shredding!
Thanks mate
that boards looks soo fun. excellent review.
Thanks mate
Yes it was super fun!
I’ve been surfing a 6-2 Big Barron on the North Shore this winter after I tore up my shoulder surfing Sunset in October. Needed more paddle assistance and this did the trick. Great paddle power and surfs amazingly well even in well overhead. Having move fun on this than my short boards. BTW your reviews are appreciated. Aloha…
Good to hear, they are such good boards!
Great review, great surfing too 👍🏻
Thanks mate
Love the reviews mate! Awesome content and informative, keep it up!
Have you ridden the Firewire Sunday, if you have how does it compare in Perth/peel surf?
Thanks mate! I havent ridden a Sunday as yet - having a hard time trying to get my hands on one. We had a couple in the shop but the sold really fast. One of my mates grabbed one and he is loving surfing it locally.
Surfing great on this. Power and flow. Nice
Thanks mate
Great review thanks .
Thanks for watching!
High performance mid lengths are insanely good and you're going to see more and more of them around. Those young guys that were givin Wooly shit, they will finish up falling in love with them.
Ha ha lots of crew (young and old) were giving me shit for riding this one - but I had the last laugh! This board was super fun!
Rode high performance doing airs tricks blabla for 20 years, got a single fin a few years ago and 1st surf hated it. Ended up being my only board after I snapped a couple só rode it for a month. Got obsessed with it, 2 years later it’s all I want to ride, especially when over 4ft and down the line or hollow
@@WoolyTV I’m the most hated man in the line up now 😂 But they don’t know what they are missing out on.
The board suits as your not a little guy and it smooths out your style. The volume is evenly distributed over its length and the pulled down rails help give this twin some traction and great projection down the line. 6-8 and 38 litres is not a lot, its barely a mid length which start at 7-0 +. I think dropping down to a 6-4 to achieve more looseness might defeat the flow and drive that you have with the 6-8. I'd say that the longer versions would go well also.
Thanks mate. Yes I would agree with all your points there 🤙
Yeah you surfed it really well out at g, extra volume woulda gone great against the rip...lol Shane, loving the Seaside m8 👍
It goes insane!
That goes unreal! You would not pick that from looking at it.
Yes I was very surprised at the performance!
awesome review and love the combination of glide and performance you showed. I am exactly your size. As an all arounder for san diego/lowers and for beach breaks with some push from waist to shoulder and reefs with size above chest high to 1 ft overhead would you prefer the 6’4 or the 6’8. JS has two different versions of the Baron that come out to 38 liters. 6”4, 20 3/4, 2 3/4 ,at 38.7 liters and 6’8,20 3/4 , 2 5/8. I surf just fine but not like you!! thanks for your advice.
Hi mate.
If you want to use it in smaller surf the go the shorter one. I found the 6’8” worked best in head high plus surf 🤙
great performence and sqwizing anything possible for such a board..🤙should you ride these boards same volume you use on your allrounder?
Hi mate
I went up 4-5L and 8" longer than my normal shortboard. Really depends what you want out of the board.
wow! amazing how you maxed out the small waves and destroyed them!
It's a fun board in all conditions.
Hi mate, awesome review once again!
Just wondering how you went with duck diving the big baron with that extra volume? Looking for something to take out in bigger swells up to 8ft. And really like the looks of this one. Keen to know your thoughts! Cheers mate
Same q
Hi mate, I had no problem at all duck diving the 38L. Not a problem at all.
Great review on the Big baron Wooly...I'm considering getting one for my local beach break at Maroubra to lift my wave count, and also as a travel board. I usually ride boards between 5'8 - 5'10 and my volume is in the 29-31L range. I'm 5'7 tall and weigh 70kgs, intermediate level. Still like to keep my boards maneuverable but also looking at increasing my wave count!! Tossing up between the 6'4 in 34.4L or the 6'4 in 38.7L. Any advice mate?
HI mate, I would go the lower volume 6'4". Still easy to turn and would be a big improvement as a paddler compared to your normal boards.
Hi Woodley, great vid, 6’8 seaside and beyond or 6’8 big Barron, video of BB indicates speed maintained through turns and projection, although everyone tells me ya can’t beat a Quad for flow and speed. I realise waves are always different. what would stay in your Quiver between the two. Surfing predominately beaches. Thanks for sharing your detailed review.
Hi mate, I think I preferred the JS Big Baron. Just loved the way it projected through bottom turns.....
Great review as always! Just got the 6’8 and loving it! What’s the name of the creatures bag?
Sick! That’s a limited cover that they did in fish and longboard only. Think is called ‘hardwear’ 🤙
@@WoolyTV Thanks! Have you had a chance to ride any other sizes of the Big Baron? Noticed they also do shrunk down dims where you get 38l in a 6'4 .. or 35l in a 6'2... I now feel I might need a big baron quiver !
@@karljakobsson2687 not yet but I have had my eyes on the higher volume 6’4”!!
Great review! Have you tried the chilli mids? If so would love to hear how they compare
Sorry mate I’ve never ridden one
I love mine. Nice review
Thanks
Hi Wooly, I bought the big baron partly off the back of your review. Love it so far! Thanks! I was thinking about getting the Creatures Bag too! What length is it?
Hi mate
I think mine is a 6’7” and fits my 6’8” in it fine!
@@WoolyTV Cheers!
Hey Wooly nice review. What so think about Channel Island CI Mid versus Big Baron?
Hi mate, I have just landed a CI mid to review, its a littel more traditional and heavier than the Big Baron. The JS is so loose, light and free and can almost be ridden like a shortboard where I think the CI mid will be more of a cruiser. Stay tuned for the review in the next month or two.
Hi Wooly, loved the floaters on the bigger Lefts!! You should check out the Chilli Mid Strength at a 6’8, it would make a good comparison
Thanks 🙏
Yeah I heard the Chilli mid goes great.
Not a fan of mid length boards, but check out the Chilli Middy!!
I ride mine @6’ and about 2l more than my normal boards.
…absolute insane!
@@MarcRademacher yeah I heard the Chilli Mid is a good one
Love your reviews, watched this one a few times your surfing looks awesome on this board man. I'm looking at one of these and torn between 6'4 and 6'8.. I'm 5'10 ~77kg surfing mostly weak beach break thigh to head high. My daily board is a 5'11 Pyzalien 2 stock dims around 30L. Any thoughts on how I should choose 6'4 vs 6'8?
Hi mate
Sounds like the 6’4” might be the best way to go for you.
Hey mate, just looking for some advice around sizing. I'm looking to step down from an 8 foot longboard and start transitioning into something a bit shorter. Your review of the board sounds awesome and definitely keen on a big baron just not sure which size is right for me. I'm 6'0 and 73kg, was looking at either the 6'4 or the 6'6 board, any recommendations between the two? cheers
Hi mate
If it was me I would go the 6’6”. The Big Baron suits the longer sizes.
Awesome review! How do you think it would go with a keel fin?
Thanks mate. I only ended up using the power twins. I think it might be too slippery for a tall bloke like me with the keels.
Cheers Wooly ....yep agree with ya " best mid length on the planet " i got the 5'10 ..and it surfs better than all my HP boards....because im hitting 50 , but the board is so easy to do high speed carves ! holds the line ... love it.
Yep! She is a beauty 🤙
Great review.
Would there be much difference performance wise do you think between the 6’4” 38L or 6’8” 38L?
Currently riding a Machado Moonbeam 6’0” 35L.
Hi mate
The longer rail on the 6'8" will make it surf differently to the 6'4". If you watch the review you will see that the board turns on a wider arch due to the length. The short one will turn a little tighter. Really depends what you are after in the board.
Cheers
Hey Wooly, great review - thank's for that! I am a rather big guy 6'3 (192cm) and 95kg (210lb). Normally I am on a 6'2 short board (34l) but I am now looking for something with more volume and better gliding for every day use at our local beachies. Do you think the bigger version of the 6'6 (42l) would be a good choice if I am looking for an easy paddle but also some responsiveness and easy turns in the pocket? Or too much volume?
Hi mate
I usually ride my everyday boards around 6’0” to 6’1” and 33 to 34L. The one I rode here was 6’8” and 38.5L.
I liked the longer rail line of the 6’8”. I would think either of the 6’8”s or the 6’6” 42.1L would do the job for you. But if it was me I would grab the same I ride here as it went sooooo good 🤙
@@WoolyTV Thank's mate - appreciate it!!
Nice one Wooly the board looks sick!
Any advice on which fins to get if it’s a futures fin box?
I would use an EN for sure
@@WoolyTV Thank for the quick response between the EN and JS MFC twin fin would they be much difference you reckon?
@@jimmydabriou2482 either of those would def do the trick. I have been using the MFC x JS fins a bit and I’m liking them.
Cheers mate for the info
Hi Wooly I've got the BB in 6'8 in 38.5 litres and really love it. I love it so much I'm looking to get another one but shorter so I can make snappier turns. What size would you recommend? I use to have a 6'2 Hayden but found it too short. I'm thinking the 6'6 in 36.8 litres. Any advice appreciated. Cheers
Hi mate
I was actually thinking about getting a shorter one so this is something I have looked at!
If it was my I would go for the 6’4” at the same volume as the 6’8”. This would give the same positives as the 6’8” but a shorter turning arc.
Hope that helps
@@WoolyTV - thankyou Wooly and congrats on the comp! Cheers
Wooly, do you feel after riding it a few times the size was right for you? Would you go down (or up)? Just trying to dial in the right size for me. I’m 74kg intermediate short boarder 179cm tall riding a rad ripper 5’7”atm.
Hi mate, I thought the 6’8” was perfect for how I wanted to surf it. Really depends what you want to get out of the board. Smaller would be easier to throw around but I wanted to ride it as a mid length.
Thanks for the review. I was wondering if you can help. Looking for the BB or the Ci Mid twin. From both boards what would be the main different? Still the more cruise approach on the CI? I was looking for a 7’0 or 7’3 CI mid twin.
I’m 6’2 and 200lbs. What do you advice?
Thanks in advance!
Yeah the CI mid is more of a cruiser, the BB is way more manoeuvrable.
Hey wooly, how did the deck hold up in the PE construction? I've heard they're a bit soft. Would you recommend the PE or if you had the option go with PU? Thanks mate.
Hi mate, Mine was a very early one and is super light so it does have a few deck dents. The newer ones are defiantly heavier and stronger.
@Craig Phillips hi mate. The newer PE are definitely heavier and stronger than the early one like the demo I had.
If you are worried about deck dents then maybe a custom PU one is a better way to go for you. 🤙
Hello! Bit late to the party but looking at buying one of these. I live in NZ an all the big Barron's are made in Thailand! You ozzy lads get the Australian made ones. Is there much difference between the two??
Hi mate
That one I’m riding there is made at Cobra in Thailand. Still have it! All good
Hey Wooly - thanks for the great review! My daily board is a 5'9 Seaside / 37.3L, looking to get a mid-length that can handle some bigger surf / overhead conditions + paddle in easier than the Seaside. I'm 180cm (5'11) and weigh 77 kilos (170) - do you think the 6'8 / 38.5 Big Baron is the right size? Was thinking of sizing up to the 6'8 / 42.5L...thanks
Hi mate
The 6’8” I rode was about 5L more than my normal boards so going off that I would suggest the higher volume one for you. 🤙
@@WoolyTV thank you
NICE MID!!!!!
Best one I’ve ridden so far
How does it go on backhand as a twin. I’m looking at the big barron but wondering if the CI mid is more versatile in all kinds of waves. Thoughts?
I loved it on my backhand.....
Still to this day this is my favourite mid.
Hey Mate ! Would you comsider this board as a good twin stepup for good days in the NW? Does it hold a line good in hollow waves ? Cheers
I’ve never used it in hollow waves so can’t really answer that one.
It does have plenty of hold with the pin tail. I’m not sure it would be my go to for serious waves. But I’m a little old school, I’ve seen guys standing in some pretty good caves riding twins in the NW. 🤙
do elbaron nexttttttttt
Haven’t got one as yet!
JS should give you one
come on js!!!!!!
@@grapsta
Thinking of getting a Seaside and beyond or a Big barron what do you think the surfing feeling between the two are, is one better in one condition then the other,Cheers.
Ok, I knew this question was coming! The way I surf, the Big Baron suited me better. Im sure for others the S&B will be better suit to them. I liked both but I think for me and the waves I surf, I would go the Big Baron.
@@WoolyTV Thanks,Cheers.
What size would you get?
I am 80 kg, 1.72m
surfed a channel twin 6'4 34.5L felt a bit too much
I was thinking of 6'2, 32.4L
Hi mate,
it really depends what you want the board to do and what size you normally ride.
I wanted this as a mid length so thats why I went the 6'8" - 38L. My normal boards are usually 6'0" and 33-34L. Which ever way you decide to go just know that this model has very low rails.
@@WoolyTV How are the low rails are effecting? I want this to catch more waves than my groveler and still be able to rip
@@88saas the rails are low so even if the board is longer and more volume than you normally ride you can still rip!!
@@WoolyTV Cheers mate
nice
Thanks
can you compare it to the HS Mid Length Glider?
Hi mate
I havent seen one of those as yet.
I’m 178cm and 68kg. Mostly surfing NS Hawaii. Looking for a fun mid length for the smaller days. Is the 6-2” the call? Aloha
By the way. Absolutely love your reviews. You got me to also purchase a zero gravity.
@@black90lab hi mate. Thanks for watching. Yeah either the 6’2” or 6’4” would do the trick for you.
Havent surfed in 5 years - 58 y old, 194cm 98kg. Thinking the 7'6 50 litre. Would that be ok?
Bigger the better to get you back in the water
Hello, just saw your video and i an keen to buy big baron....I have already a black baron ans I have a lot of fun...My question is. What biard size? I AM 5'8'' tall and weight 70 kilos
This board performs best as a mid length so I would suggest the lower volume 6’6” or even the lower volume 6’8”.
Hey Wooly,
I’m tossing up either 6’8 a or 7’0 as a new addition crusy mid length that can still cut.
Intermediate, 175cm/80kg Currently riding Xero 6’1 in easy dims at 39l
Surf Noosa, Bendalong south coast and Torquay, Vic
Thought the 6’8 would be ideal but lower ltrs than currently riding on the Xero.
Thoughts?
Go the higher volume 6'8" that should do the trick
Great review as always.
Can you please post you quiver say 6 boards? 😄
Please keep the reviews coming..
Thanks mate. Do you mean pick my fav 6 boards out of my quiver? Got another review about to drop this week and we have started 2 new boards.
@@WoolyTV Great review and happy new year. Give us you’re quiver Wooly don’t hold back. If you can only have 6 boards for the next 2 years to surf the waves you surf what are they? Dims brand type … we want the gold😂😂
Nice Wooly, you had your hands on a H.I mid 6 at all?
Hi mate, we had one or two come through the shop but I havent ridden one as yet. They do look great and are super light.
I now have one on order! Stay tuned.
@@WoolyTV I have the 7'0...fantastic board!
I've been riding one for about a year.... it's an absolute weapon.
I know, I know it's a 7 footer, but !!!!
Mate, if you had your choice Big Baron or Sunday ?
I haven’t ridden the Sunday and I love the Big Baron so BB it is
Hey mate I'm 74kg and 175cm, 37yo good surfer but about to have neck surgery (been outta the water for 12 months with bulging discs). Thinking about one of these as a fun way to get back into it without the pressure I put on myself when on a shortboard (but still want to be able to do some turns, throw it around a bit, take it out in heavier surf). Recommendations for length? I'm torn between 62B and 64A dims at the mo but not sure if I'm even in right ballpark. Cheers
Whats was your board before your surgery?
@@WoolyTV ha have a stupid amount of them, JS monstabox @ 5'10 (sold my 5'9 which I regret), lost driver round tail @ 5'11 as a semi step up, lost rocket 5'7, performance twin fish @ 5'7 etc etc. All around 28L for day to day boards, go up slightly for step ups or proper grovellers
@@davewoulfe5291 I guess the equivalent to what I was on would put you on the 6’4”.
I loved the 6’8” and that was 8” longer and 5L more than my ‘normal’ boards. I’m thinking the 6’4” but I think you will just need to decide if you want the extra length?
If you’re in Oz and once you have decided then let me know if you can’t find one at your local shop. We can ship to most parts of Oz and we have some already on order in both constructions. 🤙
@@WoolyTV cheers, appreciate it. I'm in NZ but love the reviews and feedback
@@davewoulfe5291 Sweet as bro, thanks
Is a 7”6 baron a good beginner board for first timer?? I’m 140 pounds 5”6 male.
Depends what you're riding now? But yes it would be good.
Hey crew! Anyone got any recommendations for futures fin choice - 6’8 Big Baron
EN for me!
@@WoolyTV Nice! have you ever tried the Rasta Twins (upright), I have some of those and my 6'8 - 38.5L on order
@@cosmoganic I haven’t but just try them first and see how they go.
Are you able to duck dive it or not so much? You ripped on this board what a fun video
Thanks! Yes I could duck dive it easily - it’s only 38L so not that much more volume to my shortboard
@@WoolyTV thanks for the response. I’m gonna get one!
@@mxhx787 No worries, where are you located?
@@ianmacpherson3077 just so ya know. That’s me from my other account :)
@@ianmacpherson3077 PR, mostly 3-5 foot waves for me
How did it feel backside. Did you have to adjust your technique a lot?
Hi mate
Usually I have to nurse twins on my backhand but not this board. The tail shape really lets you surf it just like a performance board!
You were surfing so good on this thing and going so fast I ended up buying a 6.8 right after I saw this vid. Just took it out yesterday and holy shit did it live up to the expectations I had. Can’t believe how fast it goes but also how loose it was. I was switching off with my 6.0 32 liter thruster which I though I was doing some pretty good turns on but my friend said my turns actually looked better on this 6.8! So stoked!
Is big baron the kind of midlenght that has a shortboard feel
Yeah sure does. Still to date my favourite mid.
thanks mate. How does big baron works on small days kinda of wave? So far I've been loving my chilli middy 6'2 20 3/4 2 1/2at 35L. Been eyeing on the big baron for quite sometime now. I'm around 167cm and 68kg, what size should I go for? Looking at 6.4 at 38.7L or 6.7 at 42.1L big baron? Intermediate surfer here
@@Eidref102 if you like the Chilli mid, stick to the DIMs close to that. If you have a look on the little right I was surfing, you can get a read on how it looks in the small stuff. Mine was a 6’8” so the shorter ones will have a better turning circle :)
@@WoolyTV I am eyeing probably a 6.6 big baron or maybe a 6.4
What other fins on futures works with big baron?
@@Eidref102 depends on how big you are, for me the EN is best.
@@WoolyTV thanks mate. Just got an EN 😅🙏
@@Eidref102 nice
Is this an east coast board.
Hi mate. It’s works in a variety of waves.
I BOUGHT THE JS HYFI RAGING BULL AFTER 4 SURF IT LOOK LIKE IT WAS IN HAIL STORM VERY SOFT .AFTER PAYINS$1100. NOT HAPPY GREAT BOARD 2 SOFT. HOW THE BIG BARON HOLD UP WAS HEAPS OF DINTS IT .
Hi mate, I would take the board back to the shop you grabbed it from and see what they say. All my HYFI boards have held up well. This one is a different construction to the HYFI. After all the surfs I had it has some denting on the tail and where my foot goes but nothing different to a normal PU board.
@@WoolyTV ALL GOOD SOLD IT AND RIDING THE TOMO HYDROSHORT LOVING IT .IM STILL KEEN ON BIG BARON .I'VE GOT THE BLACK BARON UNREAL LOVE IT. JUST WANT A 7"6 JUST 4 FUN. WOOLY .u were ripping on your look like u having great time .it's won me .after we get out of this lock down.cheers wooly🤙✌👍🍺
Yea don't buy this pos construction mine has fallen apart after 2 surfs.. 1200$ wasted.. JS no reply back. Ripped off.
That’s no good. Mine has held up really well and I still have it two years down the track. Contact the shop you purchase it from and they should be able to help you out.
Thanks for the Review.
Do you think can Future Fins Son of Cobra fits good in this board???
They would for someone lighter than me, probably a touch too small for my heavy rig :)