Ys X: Nordics - review by Basement Brothers (for PS5, PS4, Nintendo Switch) - Ys 10 by Falcom
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- Here's my review of Ys 10: Nordics.
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00:00 intro
00:46 story premise
02:46 combat system
04:11 traveling by ship
06:07 similarities to Ys VIII
08:03 music
08:46 review & wrap-up - Hry
How many floppies does this game take?
From PC-88 to PS5. The jump almost feels surreal. I have been closely following the channel's many grail games videos, but this review feels like a giant step forward into next level. Keep'em coming boss!
Always love your reviews of modern Falcom games. I liked Ys IX quite a bit, so hearing that you liked X more than that entry makes me excited to play Nordics when it comes out in English in 2025 😅
Dr Flair! I played him in the fan translation of Dawn of Ys, so I look forward to the English voice actor for this game in how he portrays him. For whatever reason, I mainly based my rendition of Flair on Mayor Grady from the Turbo version of Ys 3, it just came to me to do it that way when thinking about the character before recording.
I also did the narration based on Alan Oppenheimer's narration from the beginning of Ys 1 and 2. However, they sped my voice up to match it closer to the speed of the narrated parts, so my voice is higher. I do really wish they would have asked me to re-record my lines faster!
I have been playing Ys games since Books 1 and 2 came to the Turbo-CD in 1990 and blew me away with it's red book audio and top notch voice acting and cinemas! My friend's jaws hit the floor when they saw it! Anyhow nothing makes me happier than Falcom still being around alive and well after 40 years. I'm looking forward to Nordics and will get it when the English version comes sometime next year! Thanks for the review my friend!
That Turbo port (more like a remake) is something magical.
@@Keranu K, is that you!? From Frozen Utopia? It's me, PD!
@@Keranu It really is! My 13 year old self was awestruck!
... yup. Still got both of my Ys discs for TGCD 😎👍
@@ParanoiaDragon How did we become so old?
Modern? Blasphemy I say. I shall now show my disappointment by watching the whole thing.
And like the video to show dissapointment!
Same.
NISA just confirmed the western release for Ys X Nordics for this fall 2024!
I preordered my copy from Amiami and am still waiting for it. They had restructuring done during its release so shipment was delayed. I’m excited to play it as this will be my first new Ys game that I play upon release. Last year, it wouldn’t even have been on my radar but then I discovered this channel and have been hooked on it since. (I’m going to try Trails someday)
Missed opportunity to call it Assassin's Ys ;)
Love the review though, thanks!
Haha. I almost put that exact line in the video script.
Better yet, how about Yssassin's Creed? :D
Great, thanks for doing this! I've been looking for an english review of this.
I was waiting for your review and I'm glad it's finally here. As a big Ys fan, this game being more in line with Ys VIII sounds very promising: I thought Ys IX was a couple of step backwards for the franchise in most areas. The blocking system introduced in Nordics seems interesting too. All in all, I can't wait for the western release.
I gotta say only two things bum me out: first and foremost, I checked out japanese sales and they're VERY low after what I thought was an upwards trajectory. Before anyone tells me I shouldn't care about sales when judging a game's quality, I do not. I do, however, very much care of this franchise's financial success because it directly impacts the next installment in every regard. My best guess is many ppl didn't care for Ys IX after loving VIII so that impacted Nordics' reception.
The second thing that bothers me is the constant jumping back and forth in Adol's life between games. I'd like for the franchise to move forward and take advantage of all the world building and returning characters. I do not get the point of having every Ys game happen in the same universe and to the same protagonist when it has little to no impact in any regard. This is even more surprising considering Falcom has the most inter-connected franchise in the history of RPGs.
ys storyline is quite confusing but so interesting
Picture a scenario where they assemble all their past companions from previous games for one last adventure alongside Adol to save their world. In the end, Adol sacrifices his existence for the world's survival, and he fades away, with no one left to remember him and the sacrifice he made.
Isn't the whole premise of the series Adol recounting his 100 adventures or something? Idk.
Mine is still on the way in the mail, international shipping and all. Can't wait to start playing! Looks so fun!
Excellent review! You told me everything I wanted to know about the game!
Been playing thru the Ys series and ohhh man I can’t wait for this one. Most underrated video game series of all time
Cant wait for this to come west ive been playing Ys since the Master System version of I & its always been one of my favorite series in all of gaming
Ys X really seems to be a distillation of the 2013's, it seems to be a mix of Assassin's Creed Black Flag, a game so beloved in Japan it even had a manga by a famous artist and of course, Metal gear Rising; the blocking this time is much closer to the action parry of Raiden with all the systems in place, especially the reversing of some attacks. While not as innovative as Ys of old, the tag system is pretty unique so far and seems to be a true evolution to what Zwei tried to do.
Certainly much more enjoyable than Ys 9, hope they keep this formula and get Adol and Dogi as a pair for the Kefin remake, in this style of combat. A shame they keep locking away Adol's old armours though, not so much a fan of his casual clothes look, especially when they take the time to render the Cleria armour in beautiful detail at times.
Was excited from Johnny Millennium's 1st thoughts video this morning. Can't wait to get my grubby hands on it whenever it gets localized next near 🤓
The rope to another person mechanic makes me think of Astral Chain at 1st glance 👀
Man, I'm so happy this game is getting a localization this year still. Genuinely my most hyped game this year. Even if every news outlet rated it 1/10 and warned me that it would install a virus on my PC I would still order the Deluxe Edition.
I'm excited to see how this new system evolves. It seems like whenever Falcom switches up the gameplay system, the second game in the system is where the kinks get worked out and something awesome happens. Ys 6 was great, but Oath in Felghana is where that era's style really took shape. Ys Seven was good, but Memories of Celceta took it further. They also seem to like alternating between numbered entries and remakes, so I'm hoping Ys 5 gets the treatment next.
Can't wait to play this in 3 years when NIS finally decide to localize this.
Eagerly waiting for the PC port.
How difficult would you say the Japanese is in this game? I've been learning Japanese for the past month so I can play the entire Falcom catalogue, along with numerous other untranslated games, and Ys is one of my favorite series. I'm probably still too much of a beginner to understand and enjoy Ys and The Legend of Heroes, but I do hope I can reach that point soon!
You can probably finish the game without knowing much Japanese since there's always an exclamation point showing where to go next. Also almost the entire story is spoken aloud, which for me always made things a lot easier and fun to follow along when I was learning Japanese.
Font is easier to read than in kuro 1, 2 lol. By easier I mean it tires you out less.
one thing that didnt mention is the parry cinematic and boss finisher is another big plus for me, they just hype the game so much for me
I'm gonna hold off on watching this review until I beat the game when it comes to America, but hopefully you enjoyed it!
I'm still kind of peeved that everyone on the dev team denied a playable Dogi, though.
It's like they're messing with the fans at this point when it comes to Dogi 😂
@NaNoRarh the guy in memories of celceta might as well of been him too!
@@briteboy6131 It's the sad case of the developers preferring waifu OCs more than our favorite buff wallcrusher
At least we have Dogi playable in Ys 7
Your video is an endless wellspring of motivation! ° "Every setback is a chance to gain wisdom."
The intro is absolutely spot on hilarious
I want to play this game so much 😢
The shot of that Popful Mail floppy wasn't lost on me. It's coming.
I can't say I've enjoyed any of the party Ys games as much as I&II, OiF, or Origin, but VIII was definitely my favorite of the bunch.
Good to hear that X is looking more in that direction than say IX or Celceta.
Same, 8 was where things went awry for me as Ys games are supposed to be purposeful, short and sweet. Celceta was a bit of a train wreck imo.
Thanks for the review, I will have forgotten this by the time it comes out in NA lol
3:52 I really wish Adol has the opportunity to fight a Biff (or Griff) Tannen expy on the hoverboard.
Sigh... need to wait for at least 2 years before Ys X gets an English translation... time to play and complete my backlog of Cold Steel 4 and Reverie first. Great review without spoilers.
I liked 9, we got a load of time going into characters backstories and motivations, the setting was so different to 8, and i guess the expanded traversal was done decently well enough to get by-could have done with less repetition tho. Now 10 will go back to making the world feel bigger-just no towers to explore please
Looking good will have to wait for the translated version thanks for the review.
I was SO excited for the release date only to realize the PC/english translation were not coming along with the JP release..Great video basement bros! still hyped for ys nordics!
Yeah, no such thing as a simultaneous international release when it comes to Falcom games, unfortunately.
@@BasementBrothers I know! I dunno why I thought it was going to be the English version too. chalk it up to blind hope
I need the English translation for this game!! I can put the Japanese version on my modded Switch, but it's less fun and special when you just download a new game from a series you love, and especially if you don't pay for it
Glad this is closer to 8 than 9! Will be picking it up. Was hoping for a bit better graphics though
Now all I need is to wait the 2 requisite years for it to be ported overseas. Its funny, that used to always be the case but I feel I've been spoiled over the last few years with worldwide simultaneous releases being more of the norm.
i CAN'T WAIT FOR A WESTERN RELEASE ! Will surely buy a physical version of each consoles like I did with Ys 8 and 9 !
What the do you even mean when you say Western? Do you not have your own language or company? Dude 🙄
@@West-for-Whites_NonWhites-Out western release: when a game gets a release outside of japan ! This is what I mean.
I just finished ys 9 nox my first game of the series and omg when does 10 have a us date
A new game review! Wow! Lol i cant wait til this comes to the west. I’ve played every Ys so this one will be no different
Would love to know your personal ranking for the entire Ys series.
Must watch video! ❤️
lol "sure why not" is exactly how I feel when playing the newer Ys games. Wish they'd go to a modern version of the Napishtim engine or something.
Preordered🎉 and started playing day one (Asian ver). I'm at end game currently. The dual-guarding sys is a big issue here, it blocks EVERYTHING WITHOUT losing any HP (except blue attacks which is super RARE n only few enemies do it); unless you r surrounded by so MANY enemies or boss continues 20hits-combo u, it NEVER fade. It's especially INVINCIBLE during secret monster n most boss fights since its 1vs1 situation (i killed several secrets monsters at the 1st try while i was 35-45 levels less than them; as far as i keep guarding building revenge meter, then hit back during a long open window; I win)... Most important, the map n level design are super boring n downgraded from ys 9 n 8; all areas are flat w 2D like design and MOST areas look the SAME since they r all islands. AND sea battle is a joke n gets bored quickly; plus at the first 10-15 hrs of the game, the boat moves SUPER SLOW wasting few hours just getting point A to point B... SAD!😢😢
I love this channel.
The gameplay are quite good in normal battle,fast and easy battle,naval ship was pretty slow on early game until you upgrade it,plot was okay,i like lacrimosa plot more
Can’t wait to play this and still hoping for a Ys v remake 🧐🇺🇸
Glad to see that Falcom is finally switching up the formula with Ys X, even if that means cribbing from Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag (after all if your going to copy Assassin's Creed why not take from one of their best games). It does kind of highlight a sad state of affairs when Ys when from being a pioneer in the action-RPG genre to being this late to the party. But I can't really blame Falcom too much, the industry has simply grown too much for a relatively small company like Falcom to lead the charge. All that aside, I'm looking forward to playing this game one day.
Hopefully it doesn't take as long as Ys IX to get a western release. But if it does we can expect it here in the Summer of 2025.
Summer 2026 actually. Summer 2024 is Kuro 1, so Summer 2025 is probably Kuro 2, then Ys X right after.
Fans would probably have a fan translation for the game (albeit very rough) via Clouded Leopard's PC release done by then. Heck they even supported ultrawide and uncapped framerates starting with Kuro.
Now obviously on console yeah summer 2026.
@@SpeedsterBlur 2026 is way way too far for the localisation/translation of an already completed game. probably early 2025, max
@domymbd
domymbd: "You can't release a localization of an already completed game 3 years after the Japan release!"
NIS America: "Hold my beer..."
@@BasementBrothers Most Falcom games release 2 years after initial releases (unless there are changes in order of release, like Crossbell games). Ys game has less scripts and pretty consistent with the release order make it believable to release in 2 years.
I hope there is a English version soon. Also Vikingr's translates to sea raider or pirate
I really need to play Ys. I’ve known about the franchise for at least 20 years and haven’t ever tried one.
WAIT! YOU HAVE A NAME?! I thought you were just basement brother one.
Also, we see the Popful mail there. When's that review?
So they trails series are better? I just hope both series keep evolving.
I haven't play most modern Ys game yet, but if they would be pleasent for me, i will probably buy Ys X when it come someday on PC in english. From your review it seems that it can be fun game for me with a lot to do. And colorful anime vikings. This anime vikings are so attention-grabbing xD
Waiting fot the /fg fan translation.
Adol's not sticking with any girl puts me more in the mind of the comic/cartoon hero Lucky Luke. In one story, after he finishes escorting a travelling theater, one of the headwomen gives him a later which reads "To Lucky Luke, who is only a poor lonesome cowboy because he chooses to be."
Same deal with Adol. For whatever reason he never settles down even though he's found plenty of prospective candidates.
I can't wait for this in English.
im so confused, how am i supposed to install the game????
I feel like I will have a similar opinion when I play it
,(hope that I will enjoy it better than 9 at least lol)
Ys X looks like it will be great. Too bad I won't be able to play it in English in the west for at least a year.
Interesting that they changed the game system again completely. I definitely love the way it looks a lot more than Ys IX (which is one of my least favorite games in the series even though it's mechanically rock solid, but just too drab/limited in visual diversity), and doing nautical things is a pretty good new idea - I hope it's not as tedious as Zelda Wind Waker was, and even if it's not very free, it still seems like there's a sense of exploration? Ys 8 is probably going to be my absolute favorite Ys game for a long, long time, but Ys X looks like a Day 1 purchase. Well, Day 2 maybe, gotta wait for reviews of the English translation and PC port first. I love that they make "Recruit NPCs" a regular thing now, and hope that it's more like Ys 8 than 9.
Finished the game yesterday and finally watched the review
I fully agree with your comparisons to Assassin's Creed IV
But sadly, this game's naval combat just does not get anywhere close to the quality of that game, and the naval combat stuck out as a weak spot of the game overall
That said, I enjoyed the game immensely
That aside, though, I must ask just to be sure, did you see the final runestone close to the ending?
Yeah, agreed on the naval combat. I believe I saw all the runestones since I got the trophy for them.
@@BasementBrothers It's a bit of a tricky one since it doesn't seem to pop up in the list of runestones and may not count for the trophy
I'll plug my own upload of it here if you don't mind
czcams.com/video/F_p3QqjnW0c/video.html
This is so easy to miss and so there isn't much talk about it, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it as someone who's played a lot of Falcom games
You have to go back to the first dungeon? Weird.
No idea what that is about. It's weird when Falcom tries to act like there is any overarching story to the series, since they themselves have gone so far out of there way to make sure there isn't one.
@@BasementBrothers I wonder if they had a change of mind about it, because this is hinting hard at something (Whether it'll actually lead to anything is a whole other story though)
Funny how the graphical presentation of the game is also about 10 years old, just like Black Flag! They really should have put a little more effort into making the game look like it was made for current gen consoles, it’s almost a carbon copy of Lacrimosa of Dana
The graphics are what you would expect. Falcom doesn't have the resources to make a AAA title like Ubisoft. The high resolution and framerate are all you're going to get. And for the record, it does look better than Ys 8: Lacrimosa of Dana.
Ys 8 was the winning formula. Building on it mechanically is the best option.
This game will be cool to play on Switch
The reason why Adol never settle down with someone is because his heart belongs to someone else.
Ys Chaotix
Wow, thanks! It's like this hole was made for me
i loved ys 8 but wasnt a huge fan of 9. really looking forward to 10 though. thanks for the review!
Ys VIII was a major success. Ys IX not so much due to its constricted urban environment although I know some people enjoyed it. Ys X doesn't want to make the same mistake. You've got everything that was successful in past games mixed in with open world elements. I think it will do well when it releases worldwide.
Making the exact same game over and over again is not so good either. I think it’s good that Falcom tries to do something new (like with IX), because even a successful formula needs to be refreshed to stay interesting.
Variety is also sort of a palate cleanser from the player’s perspective. You can play the exact same game twice and enjoy it more if you don’t play them back to back, but have something different in between.
Wow you completed it in Japanese? I suppose you know the language. I'll be picking the switch physical version when it will be available in English
He's been living in Japan for 2 decades.
Does the game actually feature a romance or is it just implied?
Revisiting this after the release of Skull & Bones, it's ironic how the naval battle in this game is better.
5:56 What is that ship made of? The Titanic barely grazed the side of an iceberg and down she sadly went. This ship, however, is able to smash through a freaking mountain.
I shot that mountain down with the cannons before going through it. Thus it no longer exists as a solid object. :)
I don't like that they squished this to fit after Ys II but this game looks like a lot of fun.
As a fellow who adored Black Flag so much, that's just right up my alley. And hey, look it's my historical people too! Vikings!
MODERN game reviews? Im protesting this video by having only two glasses of Japanese Whiskey instead of three
still no english version on overalll game ?
why didnt it come with english at release?
got it today n only japanes?
read that fall 2024 english n french(just strange to release n sell game n english months later or is it just me that thinks this?)
Looks great for n YS game(best so far,but english please!!)
I didn't even know there was an Ys VIII
Ys VIII was actually really good in its time! You should really pick it up for a few bucks (or however much it goes for nowadays). For some reason the deserted island theme in that one really swallowed me in. Can't exactly even explain why.
But yeah, I also agree that "real" Ys kind of ended with IV. Ys V was the first one that had me saying, "This just ISN'T Ys!" the whole time while I played through.
man, this game is awesome! hopping for the american version
Btw, one more thing about YS X being disappointing😢: the whole game on PS5 is ONLY 5.04G😂, Comparing to YS8 on PS5's 16.09G! Again, i beat the game 100% w hard mode Asian ver on PS5, and I LOVE YS series🎉!
Gonna be a long and painful wait for the English version but it will be worth it. This game looks just as good as Ys 8 and Ys 8 was a masterpiece
Cool beans!
cool
Focus on guarding and have a revenge meter? Sounds like.............
ROYALGUARD!
Y's10 should've of been an actual next gen game with how powerful the ps5 hardware is, not a game that looks like it came out during tail end of ps3 lol. If at the very least looked like granblue relink but not even comes close to that. It's like they rather poop out these copy pasta games every few years to only focus on their niche audience and don't care at all on expanding and appealing to mass market which is so so sad cos the gameplay is fun and the franchise legacy should be appreciated by everyone.
Of course there are always going to be people who have that opinion no matter what, but if you understand where Falcom is as a company and what they have been releasing for the last 10 years, then there is nothing about this particular PS5 title from them that is unexpected. They (and most Japanese devs nowadays for that matter) just don't have the money/resources to make a true current gen game, and never will again. All you're going to get from them on PS5 is the high resolution output and framerate. There's otherwise, no reason this game needs to be on PS5 at all, obviously, and I hope most people understand that going in.
The development cost of even true ps4 level fidelity titles is too high to recoup with this type of game. It would put the future of the company at risk if they so much as tried. No Falcom, please keep making cool games with upscaled ps3 graphics. Ive come to terms with it.
@@BasementBrothers But that's the point I was trying to make most ppl wont understand or care or know about that sort of stuff, and when talking about new comers to the franchise there wont be as many or if any at all as ppl will look the other way after seeing gameplay of ys10. Thus keeping the company "small" forever and ever pooping out the same game with some minors gameplay gimmicks and that's it, not saying that's a bad thing for it's core audience but when u look at the overall scoop it's a huge waste of opportunity.
@@GatsuRage but the game is still better than any of the interactive movies that pretend to be games are. we need more game series like ys. not less of them.
What is even this argument. Falcom is not a AAA studio. They cannot afford giving us games this good and having graphics that could compete with games like God of War Ragnarok. And to be honest, it doesnt have to. Ys games are games made with passion and it shows unlike most of those AAA which are just money grubs with a mediocre experience.
Focusing on a niche audience sure isnt bringing millions and millions of dollars, but not every company has the desire to go as big as a company like EA or Ubisoft. Also, I can say that Ys games are miles better than anything those two released in the past decade
Thanks for the review! Not sure about this one yet. I am happy that they finally did away with the stupid 3 character system, but the whole ship thing just looks like a needless gimmick. I miss when Ys games were 10h or shorter.
How is the dialogue? Because that killed Ys 8 for me. So much talking, but they are not saying anything… That’s the reason I have not played Ys 9 yet.
A missed opportunity to make the game a bit more retro in regards to visuals. I'd say it looks like a generic mobile game. Which isn't bad but could have more personality. This is my only complaint. Everything else seems fine
Man I really can't get past the generic anime art. Really want to get into the last few ones but the games look so interchangeable to every other fantasy jrpg with an anime aesthetic out there.
Just like with 9, we have to wait 1 year for it to be released in English.
So many adventures within the span of first 10ish years of him becoming an adult. Is it wrong to think that the 'powers that be' want Adol dead?
It's more marketing than anything else. You can't sustain a franchise on appealing to existing fans only, you need to attract new people as well. And as much as some of the fans would love a game with a 40-something Adol, to most of the market Falcom operates in, American boxart Adol isn't really an attractive protagonist.
Almost as good as 8, better than 9. Good enough for me. Personally I wish they would drop the whole "recruit villagers" nonsense. It made sense in 8, was forced as hell in 9, and it seems kinda forced here too. When can I just go back to being Adol doing my crazy Adol stuff without needing to baby sit an army?!?!! Does Dogi even break a rock wall for no reason or anything?
Yes, I noticed at least one scene (in an optional quest) where Dogi breaks a rock wall. :)
@@BasementBrothers Glorious
Like Assassins’ Creed IV, you say?
*breaks out credit card*
we all know that best girl is Crevia, right?
Kinda bummed you just play as new characters. The Nordic theming thing isn't super appealing to me either but not being stuck in city like 9 is a step up. Sure it'll be fun tho.
They got rid of the party system, thats only a positive lol while i love my rpg party's but i dont like it in action rpgs.
This combat system already seems leagues better than the last few games.
Calling anything made for the japanese market modern is a stretch but nice to see that they slowly leave the 90s for the early 2010s.
I love how many people love VIII and shit on IX, depsite IX being the better game from a gameplay perspective. I also love how people complain about IX, because it's "too walled off," even though VIII does the exact same thing in a different way. Its hilarious really.
Don't get me wrong, I like VIII. There are even things that feel better about Lacrimosa. But IX is simply the better gameplay game.
I agree on the gameplay, but I think for most people the story and theme are even more important. There was just something about the way Ys VIII had you stuck on the island looking for survivors and gradually revealing more of the landscape... and then the big reveal partway through with Dana and everything. Something about it just clicked really well for me and a lot of people. It was the right game at the right time that really breathed new life into the series.
@@BasementBrothers yeah, and I completely get that the story really matters for some players. Also, the whole stranded island vibe is definitely classic Ys.
I completely understand people preferring VIII for the story, and/or the characters, and/or the setting/vibe. But when some of those players talk about VIII being better from an actual game mechanic standpoint, I feel the need to say something, which I did lol.
Regardless of which a player prefers, they are both worth at least a single playthrough in my opinion. As for X, I'm kind of trying to not watch content on it to not be spoiled. So I just hope that it takes the best aspects of VIII and IX and makes for the best Ys yet. From the looks of what I have seen, Nordics looks to do just that.
Yeah, and I definitely don't want to say that IX is bad, cause it certainly isn't. It was pretty good. I would say indeed X takes some of the good aspects of IX and VIII and combines them (along with aspects of other games). But where VIII felt somehow fresh in its time (for gaming in general), X really feels to me like it doesn't do anything new. It's fine for what it is though.
I actually enjoyed VIII's gameplay more than 9's. 9 has too much visual clutter and the enemy designs are nonsensical. It might technically have more refined combat mechanics, but the poor design elements, for me, detracted more than the refined mechanics added.
And saying 8 and 9 are equally blocked off is a great example of why looking at raw mechanics without context leads to poor game design. In VIII, you'e stranded on an island and slowly build a foothold as you expand your search for survivors, with some paths blocked off until you have the skills/manpower to clear them. There is an intuitive, mechanical, and narrative reason for the progression. In IX, you're in a city where some unexplained ancient magic seemingly arbitrarily tells you which district to go to today by blocking only the player with magic walls. There is no reason for this except to keep the player out of the wrong area.
So you're right that 8 and 9 are comparably blocked off, but the broader game design informs how we experience these mechanics. Which is why the one where you overcome natural obstacles that would realistically impede Adol is praised while the one where it all but explicitly has the developers say "No, player, you can't go here until we tell you to" is criticized for the same mechanics.
@@derrickcrowe3888 I couldn't disagree more. It's the same gameplay with a different narrative that blocks off the player. One of them is finding castaways; the other uses magic. To act as though the magic being arbitrary in a game to begin with is beyond silly.
It's fine if you prefer the VIII way of doing things. I also completely understand the visual clutter complaint about combat (especially if you were unfortunate enough to play on the Switch). But even so, you're basically saying that one feels better to you, even though they are the same thing.
That's fine, but it doesn't keep the locked off areas from being the same thing mechanically. Areas of the game are gated off, and each game handles the unlocking of those gates in different ways. To act as though Adol couldn't just climb over or go around the obstacles impeding him in VIII is just ignoring that for the sake of saying that VIII did it better. They are the same mechanic, and each game uses the story to allow progression in its own way.
As for combat specifically, you might prefer VIII, even if you played on a system that didn't bog down with IX. The visual distraction, as I mentioned, can certainly distract from the fighting. It still doesn't change the fact that the precision of IX is simply better.
We can call that nitpicking, but it isn't. As someone who up until recently was playing both VIII and IX side by side, I got EXTEMELY FRUSTRATED going from VIII after playing IX. It was much more satisfying to play Dana first and then jump to Nox, because the combat was simply smoother and more responsive.
Anyway, thanks for your response. As I mentioned in another comment, if you like adventure games like this, you can go wrong with either.
ys8 lacrimosa of dana is the best series
Adol does not avoid women, but he does deny them his essence