I was going to stan illit and now I'm reconsidering 😂 Edit: sooo even tho I don't have a bias in them... I can say that I like their music. And they improved. Well atleast a little but whatevaaa that's for the drama in the comments y'all 🤣
if only babymonster were given quality songs like illit's magnetic, they would had grown more! i mean their training's should be paid off with release of good songs so that general public could get good perception of babymonster not only in the terms of vocals but quality music as well.
Babymonster has loyal fans though and that's really what you need to remain in the industry as long as possible. As far as I know, illit doesn't seem to have many loyal fans. It's better to have a loyal fanbase than to be remembered as a one-time hit group.
But tbh honest as a illit and bm fan both songs are really good and I like bm's concept more ofc that's just my opinion this doesn't mean Illit have a bad concept and I agree that at the time of batter up yg literally reused the rejected ones but since sitm they did really good and babymons7er album's all songs are so catchy and up beat
YG will never follpw trends and do lame girl group songs...sorry. If you don't like strong music...even their ballads are strong...grow up. Anyone over 18 following a group like that Hybe group is creepy. Now that they've debuted, they don't have time or proper motivation to improve to the extent they need to. BM is at a grownup level no matter their age...and will be able to naturally mature their music and image without issue.
Stuck In The Middle is way better than everything Illit have. Illit is just doing NewJeans, and NewJeans is the trend. Trendy doesn't always mean better music. Bad bunny is trendy, he's terrible.
Baemon just debut lol just wait and they will have more song. Also not everyone think magnetic is a good song, for me its just a song singing by 10years old. Baemon would easily sing magnetic but illit would struggle to sing sheesh because of the vocal level.
comparing baby monsters vocal to illit???! oh come on man! baemon vocals is in another dimension. u cant even compare illit vocals to Unis which is far more superb. the only advantage illit have is that they came from a big company called Hybe.
Let ILLIT train more first, then they will be ready. They have the potential to sing well with more practice. But Babymonster? My princesses are so good at singing! Like Rami’s vocals were so stable and my bias Rora’s vocals were too amazing. Ahyeon’s high note OMG. All of them did well, even while dancing. ❤🖤❤🖤
Not a 'Bit' weak if they were standing as straight as a pole. And weren't huffing puffing after a wild performance either. What a shame seriously Hybe is obsessed with making bucks. "Popularity? We'll buy it" 😂 That's not how it works sirr xD
HYBE is not destroying kpop, there's many group in hybe have great vocals, like BTS, txt, enhypen, SVT, fromis 9, boy nextdoor, tws, new jeans, and besides why compare kpop groups? When baby monster was trained first before illit. And illit is just new to kpop world, why compare? And don't say that hybe is destroying kpop, illit just needs a vocal lesson or training, besides there's still going to be another comeback, let's just be patient to wait for the improvement, I know they will improve on singing while dancing when they're waiting for their first comeback
Wdym look at blackpink vocals in born pink concert. Not only vocals but also dance. Their born pink concert is the big reason why I unstanned them (plus they skipped their rookie era)
@@adalynn-zw4ob wdym just because of some artists you are saying that they are setting pretty low bars? BTS, Seventeen, txt, fromis 9, new jeans, Enhypen, Boy next door, tws, all these artists are so good. And ILLIT are also improving compare their first encore with other encores and then you will understand
@@madman8932 how dare! Is it bcuz the monopoly of the big 4 companies of making products 😁. Well its ok if they dont last long they have 2 and a half years in their contract to enjoy making music..and they did well for a small company and they can really sing without auto tune.. 🤣
@@Human-eg7yf support them if you know they r good even for 2 and half years they may not reach the level of those idols that belong to the generic 4 big companies.bcuz of they have the monopoly influence and funds..but you can help them to be in the game and be relevant..bcuz u believe.☺
Guys let me make this clear. No hate was intended to either group. I wasn’t expecting this comparison to blow up. I also did not realize that baemons was pre-recorded. Even though it is they are still vocally stronger than Illit doesn’t make them a bad group. Besides illit is still improving. Super proud of both!
Yeah why dont you go and watch their itz live performance and the MR Removed that Yg posted on Baemons official channel they performed in a radio show and then come defend your pretty princesses Illit these princesses cant even match the live vocals of Babymonster even after training for 10 more years thats why you should always test run everything before releasing it keep crying while Baemon "lipsyncs"
If that was live it would be fair, bu you're comapring pre record to live, I mean we all know that Babymonster would slay the live performance, but for now it's just pre record
yh but even illit’s pre-recorded ones weren't really great, won’t make any difference tbh. we could use baemon’s radio shows/it’s live show/show interviews and they are still easily the one ahead.
Minju sounds great tho Also Ahyeon’s high note isn’t even live if you see the movement of her lips But yet not gonna lie baemon is definitely more talented
@@free_palestine_yeah you don’t know the difference between hate and criticism. HYBE has to stop debute groups with that lacking lacking, they set them up for failure and that mental pressure. New groups like Babymonster had their first life performance on its life, somehow they are able to sing really good 😅you see the problem…. YG debutes idols after long practice and hard work, HYBE debutes money making faces
Imagaine minjiu debuted in babaymonster and what would illit have done This is what hear YoU mAkE mE dAnCe iN oHio Thisss time * breaths* want :::::_____
Please note that it was not just the concept did ILLIT agency copy from Newjeans, everything from MV, photoshoots, styling, fashion, facial expressions…. exact replica of Newjeans.
@adalynn-zw4ob In my opinion, with all the news and statements from Hybe, I do believe that they are trying to ruin Newjeans image. They did a successful imitation of Aesthetic Newjeans concept, styling, and even the image/look of each members. Confiscating the work of MHJ means they have the access of MHJ plans and concept for Newjeans upcoming music and comebacks for the next years. So sad.
Fr I'm an ILLIT stan but I think Ahyeon and Rora queen attitude fr. In an interview they were asked what are their opinions on ILLIT being their rivals. Ahyeon replied that she thinks that they need to focus on themselves first as they are just rookies and Rora replied that she is friends with one of the members (Minju is a former YG trainee so makes sense)
I'm glad you said it the way you did. Frankly I'm tired of everything that's been going on but "Hybe shouldn't have debuted them without stable vocals." Hybe shouldn't have debuted them until they were ready. I want every person to get their chance at being a Kpop Idol honestly, but please; debut them when they're ready. I don't wanna see more idols go through this shit because they're just simply not ready.
Its funny how each ill it member trained for 3 to 4 years with only wonhee who trained for only 2 months. Still, even a normal non trained person can sing better than them. I dont think its actually possible, like- how?? 💀 Theres for sure going on smthng ppl are not familiar with bcz no way, they sing like that after being trained for yrs. Also, i saw a tweet recently mentioning that sakura must be their vocal coach. Lol
It’s not about not having enough vocal training it’s the fact that they’re forced to sing in range that they obviously feel uncomfortable with when you watch R U NEXT they were all really good Moka literally sang SSFWL while running and her lines weren’t vocally easy +when they perform Lucky Girl Syndrome which is in a higher range they’re so much more stable especially Moka and I know they should expand their vocal ranges so they don’t face these difficulties but they’ve just debuted and have been used to singing in a higher range learning how to sing in a lower range will take some time so in the meantime BeLift should give them songs in their vocal range
"Quantity over Quality" There are other deserving contestants during the illit search, but i think the company chose the visuals over talent. For me, they are all visuals, but you need to prioritize skills also. They can't create the same as BTS recipe with great visuals and great talents to their gg group.
Hybe GG are juat riding on the company's influence. Just because they are from hybe kpopies think all groups are the best when they have the worst GG when it comes to vocals
Hybe wants to be known as a company with famous groups so badly that they have forgotten to train talent and if they have any they are overused. Look at TXT is so overworked every second they on-tour brand deals and so on I don't think they have been doing vocal training in a bit and some sounded a bit off in their live singing. And in my opinion, they are the best from hype with all five can sing.
Hybe has lately been money-hungry. It’s sad to see passionate people under a company who doesn’t really take the artists seriously and just want money.
Saying it’s hybes fault isn’t gonna help. I think once they know their song and lines, it doesn’t take much to practice them a few times everyday 💩just how much do yall want to spoon feed the idols?
The groups are good illit keeps improving there debut was a bit rushed for me but they keep getting better in every encore bm was traine at a young age before debut that why theses girls are totally diff
Hybe should take lesson from yg entertainment that's why yg give at least 6 year for their trainees s for all over qualities despite the group is only rap based group hybe making just copy illit song is like children's poems hybe Should take two or three years for to their trainees for there live vocals even new jeans live vocals is better than Le seerafim and illit
@@adalynn-zw4ob it was not. It’s like backtrack under bracktrack. Aespa did it multiple times. When you remove the first layer there’s still fake vocals on mr remoevd.
LoL they're still young. These things can be trained and developed. They have the voice color and sound unique. We have a diff cup of tea not everyone likes voices that can belt. They might be unstable but give them grace cause they're still young. Why compare and such hate.
I stated in the video that their was not hate intended to either group. And even though they are still young they were trained for years. Obviously not in vocals which isn’t their fault.
They both just debuted recently and despite them being new they had YEARS being trained to become idols and part of that training should be vocals. Even though they are improving a bit in singing they should have already mastered it.
Hybe : popularity over quality and talent
YG : quality = popularity = talent
a proper group vs unready group
Fr
They’re supposed to be ready even before their debut.
@amyxmimi I love u
Tysm u r so right
What's worse part is that illit came from a survival show.
Did u mean the survival show called R U rigged? 💀
How is that survival show?😭International votes have been ignored, judges were biased and the show was rigged😭🖐🏻
No way
@@aCARATwhoisSTAYingatMOAsENGENEso rigged imagine they let go channrl :/
@@klawda576 jiwoo too
Illit just thankful that their song is catchy but Babymonster is more talented period..
QUEENSS
Hybe = quantity
YG = quality
Ahhhh
5th gen gg's with best vocals
Babymonster
Kiss of life
Triples
Vvup
Candy shop
Xin
Unis also ❤ !!
@@Bella99-gm2iuyes xin
x:in? 💀 they lost their main vocalist and the best of the group. the only reason they have popularity is bc of aria who has no talent
xin…? 💀👍🏻
Xin ?! 🤡
Illit's song is typical of children song which is catchy and easy to sing, but they still struggle
Even the bug under my bed could sing better
I was going to stan illit and now I'm reconsidering 😂
Edit: sooo even tho I don't have a bias in them... I can say that I like their music. And they improved. Well atleast a little but whatevaaa that's for the drama in the comments y'all 🤣
please do it. they are still even improving
@@hannis_personal_phoneWhen? In 2030💀
@@Acj41 lol watc their encore on m2 tehy improved so much and what are you doing? by the time you improve u will prob be 60
@@hannis_personal_phone Only minju is stable while singing, others are just😐 especially moka.
@@Acj41 did you not watch the encore i was refering to? like i said, watch it then ill answer u
This is why YG gives at least 6 years of training to their trainees. YG prefers talent over visuals. Hybe should take lessons from them
Nah fr
BM PAVED THE WAY
What a shame. Stan talent, stan performers.
if only babymonster were given quality songs like illit's magnetic, they would had grown more! i mean their training's should be paid off with release of good songs so that general public could get good perception of babymonster not only in the terms of vocals but quality music as well.
Babymonster has loyal fans though and that's really what you need to remain in the industry as long as possible. As far as I know, illit doesn't seem to have many loyal fans. It's better to have a loyal fanbase than to be remembered as a one-time hit group.
But tbh honest as a illit and bm fan both songs are really good and I like bm's concept more ofc that's just my opinion this doesn't mean Illit have a bad concept and I agree that at the time of batter up yg literally reused the rejected ones but since sitm they did really good and babymons7er album's all songs are so catchy and up beat
YG will never follpw trends and do lame girl group songs...sorry. If you don't like strong music...even their ballads are strong...grow up. Anyone over 18 following a group like that Hybe group is creepy. Now that they've debuted, they don't have time or proper motivation to improve to the extent they need to. BM is at a grownup level no matter their age...and will be able to naturally mature their music and image without issue.
Stuck In The Middle is way better than everything Illit have.
Illit is just doing NewJeans, and NewJeans is the trend.
Trendy doesn't always mean better music.
Bad bunny is trendy, he's terrible.
Baemon just debut lol just wait and they will have more song. Also not everyone think magnetic is a good song, for me its just a song singing by 10years old. Baemon would easily sing magnetic but illit would struggle to sing sheesh because of the vocal level.
comparing baby monsters vocal to illit???! oh come on man! baemon vocals is in another dimension. u cant even compare illit vocals to Unis which is far more superb. the only advantage illit have is that they came from a big company called Hybe.
I mean they are two groups in the same generation so they shouldn’t be too far off but yet they are
In this video of Babymonster's performance it is pre-recorded. There are other performances of theirs that are 100% live.
No it's Actually funny how not ONE idol from illit is good enough
And how EVERYONE from BM is fit to be a lead/main in dance, or vocals or rap.
Let ILLIT train more first, then they will be ready. They have the potential to sing well with more practice.
But Babymonster? My princesses are so good at singing! Like Rami’s vocals were so stable and my bias Rora’s vocals were too amazing. Ahyeon’s high note OMG. All of them did well, even while dancing. ❤🖤❤🖤
HYBE seriously needs to realise that the artists aren't a commodity.
Not a 'Bit' weak if they were standing as straight as a pole.
And weren't huffing puffing after a wild performance either.
What a shame seriously
Hybe is obsessed with making bucks.
"Popularity? We'll buy it" 😂
That's not how it works sirr xD
Moka : kakeeebOYYY
HYBE destroyed kpop
HYBE is not destroying kpop, there's many group in hybe have great vocals, like BTS, txt, enhypen, SVT, fromis 9, boy nextdoor, tws, new jeans, and besides why compare kpop groups? When baby monster was trained first before illit. And illit is just new to kpop world, why compare? And don't say that hybe is destroying kpop, illit just needs a vocal lesson or training, besides there's still going to be another comeback, let's just be patient to wait for the improvement, I know they will improve on singing while dancing when they're waiting for their first comeback
Wdym look at blackpink vocals in born pink concert. Not only vocals but also dance. Their born pink concert is the big reason why I unstanned them (plus they skipped their rookie era)
I don’t think they necessarily destroyed k-pop but they are definitely setting the bar pretty low
@@adalynn-zw4ob wdym just because of some artists you are saying that they are setting pretty low bars? BTS, Seventeen, txt, fromis 9, new jeans, Enhypen, Boy next door, tws, all these artists are so good. And ILLIT are also improving compare their first encore with other encores and then you will understand
You should put unis there also even they r not from a big company so u can compare their vocals..
nah they wont last long anyway.
@@madman8932 how dare! Is it bcuz the monopoly of the big 4 companies of making products 😁. Well its ok if they dont last long they have 2 and a half years in their contract to enjoy making music..and they did well for a small company and they can really sing without auto tune.. 🤣
I don't wanna stan them tbh... they are very good very stable and they will disband in 2-3 years I'll be so sad 😭😭😭
@@Human-eg7yf support them if you know they r good even for 2 and half years they may not reach the level of those idols that belong to the generic 4 big companies.bcuz of they have the monopoly influence and funds..but you can help them to be in the game and be relevant..bcuz u believe.☺
@@rhannightowl173 but they are very young but I like them they deserve the success illit have
Guys let me make this clear. No hate was intended to either group. I wasn’t expecting this comparison to blow up. I also did not realize that baemons was pre-recorded. Even though it is they are still vocally stronger than Illit doesn’t make them a bad group. Besides illit is still improving. Super proud of both!
ILLIT - Visuals
BM- VISUALS RAPPERS DANCERS SONGERD ❤
MR removed on a lipsynced performance is killing me lmao babymonster stans, please learn what live vocals are
Yeah why dont you go and watch their itz live performance and the MR Removed that Yg posted on Baemons official channel they performed in a radio show and then come defend your pretty princesses Illit these princesses cant even match the live vocals of Babymonster even after training for 10 more years thats why you should always test run everything before releasing it keep crying while Baemon "lipsyncs"
If that was live it would be fair, bu you're comapring pre record to live, I mean we all know that Babymonster would slay the live performance, but for now it's just pre record
yh but even illit’s pre-recorded ones weren't really great, won’t make any difference tbh. we could use baemon’s radio shows/it’s live show/show interviews and they are still easily the one ahead.
It's Live performance was live
@@vlmkr I mean I said that too, but this performance is pre record
@@bonobonoyalachimolalablahb5379 it's not
@@Hovsik yh, just making a point. and btw, the other reply meant It's Live music show. the band version one.
They should debuting kids....and they should stop debuting kids without vocal power
i agree w this but the bm performance is pre-recorded, would've been better to use the radio performance
They have many live performances and With handmics
Minju sounds great tho
Also Ahyeon’s high note isn’t even live if you see the movement of her lips
But yet not gonna lie baemon is definitely more talented
THIS its prerecorded nobody sings a high note like that baemonster is more talented in any way
still ahyeon voice more nice than minju
It's Live's performance is a 100% live, and she sounds even better.
She does it with vibrato.
@@yvesvampseems like you don't know about exo, btob, rv, nmixx ,aespa, suju, mamamoo.
Bro, She sings it live for radio and SBS show + it's live. They are just so good
Baby monster vocals = 😈
illit vocals = 😊
Illit vocals💀
Edit: except Minju
@@nightfurylp6373😭😭
@@Tell_Me_To_Study??
@@free_palestine_yeah but they dont sing well, as an idol they must have good vocal and good dance as basic. its their job.
@@free_palestine_yeah you don’t know the difference between hate and criticism. HYBE has to stop debute groups with that lacking lacking, they set them up for failure and that mental pressure. New groups like Babymonster had their first life performance on its life, somehow they are able to sing really good 😅you see the problem…. YG debutes idols after long practice and hard work, HYBE debutes money making faces
Imagaine minjiu debuted in babaymonster and what would illit have done
This is what hear
YoU mAkE mE dAnCe iN oHio
Thisss time * breaths* want
:::::_____
Please note that it was not just the concept did ILLIT agency copy from Newjeans, everything from MV, photoshoots, styling, fashion, facial expressions…. exact replica of Newjeans.
Hybe is just being greedy and re-using anything for more popularity.
@adalynn-zw4ob In my opinion, with all the news and statements from Hybe, I do believe that they are trying to ruin Newjeans image. They did a successful imitation of Aesthetic Newjeans concept, styling, and even the image/look of each members.
Confiscating the work of MHJ means they have the access of MHJ plans and concept for Newjeans upcoming music and comebacks for the next years. So sad.
idk why yall just want to cause fan wars between the two groups. both groups are talented and good, illit is improving and babymonster is good too!
Fr I'm an ILLIT stan but I think Ahyeon and Rora queen attitude fr. In an interview they were asked what are their opinions on ILLIT being their rivals. Ahyeon replied that she thinks that they need to focus on themselves first as they are just rookies and Rora replied that she is friends with one of the members (Minju is a former YG trainee so makes sense)
@@heeseungbiasedengene ikr like minju is good friends with the baemon members and some people are acting like illit and baemon hate each other
I'm glad you said it the way you did. Frankly I'm tired of everything that's been going on but "Hybe shouldn't have debuted them without stable vocals." Hybe shouldn't have debuted them until they were ready. I want every person to get their chance at being a Kpop Idol honestly, but please; debut them when they're ready. I don't wanna see more idols go through this shit because they're just simply not ready.
Why are guys saying hybe artists!
It's only girl grps (except fromis_9)
Its funny how each ill it member trained for 3 to 4 years with only wonhee who trained for only 2 months.
Still, even a normal non trained person can sing better than them. I dont think its actually possible, like- how?? 💀
Theres for sure going on smthng ppl are not familiar with bcz no way, they sing like that after being trained for yrs.
Also, i saw a tweet recently mentioning that sakura must be their vocal coach. Lol
Hybe debuted 🤡 nowadays...
It’s not about not having enough vocal training it’s the fact that they’re forced to sing in range that they obviously feel uncomfortable with when you watch R U NEXT they were all really good Moka literally sang SSFWL while running and her lines weren’t vocally easy +when they perform Lucky Girl Syndrome which is in a higher range they’re so much more stable especially Moka and I know they should expand their vocal ranges so they don’t face these difficulties but they’ve just debuted and have been used to singing in a higher range learning how to sing in a lower range will take some time so in the meantime BeLift should give them songs in their vocal range
Baby Monster no doubt has some of the best vocals of 5th gen however you have to use live performances to prove that not pre recorded vocals
I apologize I didn’t realize it was pre-recorded before posting this.
@@adalynn-zw4ob it’s fine, no need to apologize!
Pre recorded but Still live( as accepted by audience there)
Next hybe group will also have bad vocals.
They have to change.
"Quantity over Quality"
There are other deserving contestants during the illit search, but i think the company chose the visuals over talent.
For me, they are all visuals, but you need to prioritize skills also. They can't create the same as BTS recipe with great visuals and great talents to their gg group.
😢I mean why r u even showing a prerecorded video
I’m sorry i didn’t realize it was pre-recorded before posting.
Illit's lacking in vocal is saved by their music, meanwhile BM's lacking in music is saved by their talents
I shouldn’t have laughed when I heard Moka’s voice cuz I’m not much or any better but ☠️☠️
Lol
In my country ilit is the Anush
illit fovever
I know bm is better at vocals but you used prerecorded stage for comparison
Both videos had mr removed. 😊
Lol , Audience there called it live
Hybe GG are juat riding on the company's influence. Just because they are from hybe kpopies think all groups are the best when they have the worst GG when it comes to vocals
Hybe wants to be known as a company with famous groups so badly that they have forgotten to train talent and if they have any they are overused.
Look at TXT is so overworked every second they on-tour brand deals and so on I don't think they have been doing vocal training in a bit and some sounded a bit off in their live singing. And in my opinion, they are the best from hype with all five can sing.
Hybe has lately been money-hungry. It’s sad to see passionate people under a company who doesn’t really take the artists seriously and just want money.
K pop idols main job is to sing or dance
Not nake our ears bleed
IM SO IMPRESSED WITH BM AHHH
Nvm i cant even hear them
They r not even dancing 😭
Айлит лучше чем бебимонстр😂
the difference between le sserafim and gfriend vocals...
Go hybe you can never produce a skillful idol
Saying it’s hybes fault isn’t gonna help. I think once they know their song and lines, it doesn’t take much to practice them a few times everyday 💩just how much do yall want to spoon feed the idols?
They can’t sing a song correctly no matter how much they try if they ave no clue what they are doing that’s where vocal training falls into line.
@@adalynn-zw4ob that's the case if the songs are hard. If theye easy like fearless and easy, smart etc..
0:11 Bro, what nonsense? The remuve distorts the voice very much, what kind of set-up?
She still can’t execute the song well distorted or not.
The groups are good illit keeps improving there debut was a bit rushed for me but they keep getting better in every encore bm was traine at a young age before debut that why theses girls are totally diff
Do you see something that i don’t see… vocal improvement from a HYBE group 😢that’s new to me… it’s not the girls fault, the company is
Improving but still not ready😅
@@jasonwats3035 I know I never said they are ready I only acknowledge that they are improving a bit yall always take things too far
@@nightfurylp6373 hybe should honestly do what they did for katseye the only group with good vocalist the girls are amazing
@@HeidiAndrea-mp8oe yap its all the agency fault want to make quick money
Hybe should take lesson from yg entertainment that's why yg give at least 6 year for their trainees s for all over qualities despite the group is only rap based group hybe making just copy illit song is like children's poems hybe Should take two or three years for to their trainees for there live vocals even new jeans live vocals is better than Le seerafim and illit
Wasnt babymonsters prerecorded?
no
Yes
See the live version
I got the video from a MR removed channel. I didn’t realize it was pre-recorded until after i posted it.
Buuuuouy 😵💫🫠
Another Minor group with no talent and proper training of Hybe😂
Sorry gurl but using their pre-recorded performance as live ain’t it.
It wasn’t prerecorded it had MR removed so it was their live vocals
@@adalynn-zw4ob it was not. It’s like backtrack under bracktrack. Aespa did it multiple times. When you remove the first layer there’s still fake vocals on mr remoevd.
@@ggstan2439 I apologize i did not realize until after this was posted.
@@adalynn-zw4ob not your fault, YG’s
LoL they're still young. These things can be trained and developed. They have the voice color and sound unique. We have a diff cup of tea not everyone likes voices that can belt. They might be unstable but give them grace cause they're still young. Why compare and such hate.
I stated in the video that their was not hate intended to either group. And even though they are still young they were trained for years. Obviously not in vocals which isn’t their fault.
Look girl I don't want to hate you but illit is new kpop group they just debut but babymonster is not ok
They both just debuted recently and despite them being new they had YEARS being trained to become idols and part of that training should be vocals. Even though they are improving a bit in singing they should have already mastered it.
This Illit group is horrible singer
They still need some training