Right? Like it actually reminds me of some of the hacks I’d see back in DKS1 Darkroot Garden. Some asshole would just teleport halfway across the screen, through you, then you’d explode with insta-bleed and turn into stone as you’re cursed. 😊
Crazy how From just went "What if we gave Backhand Blades 2 of the strongest ashes ever made?" They really made blindspot and swift slash available to the same weapon lmao.
@rstarrkk Choose? May I present you with ng+ and beyond? All you need is that 2nd journey, solely focus on gettin to the dlc and bam. Now you can swap freely between the 2😊
"Hello gamers" I hear from behind me in the cereal aisle of the supermarket. I don't look behind. There's no need. I know there's a cracked out store clerk with 2 reduced price kitchen knifes in each hand. Held backwards of course. From 100ft away he lunges at me. My prices? Slashed. Destroyed. "Goodbye gamers" he says while waving.
I can't believe PvP players complain about Bloodhound's Step too. At least with BHS and Monnveil you can actually win. But nope they're too good and nerfed them.
i ran into this the other day, and thought to myself, "there is no way this is as broken as i think it is...right?" and knew immediately that it probably was.
Since the dlc came out ive been invaded just over a dozen times. Different people with different weapons, buffs, armor, but one thing was consistent amongst them all; AoW spam. Not a single light, heavy, or dual swing to speak of. The AoWs look too cool and feel too cool to not use constantly and thats why people cant help but mash the AoW button.
yea definitely a double edged sword, would be nicer if ashes of war were originally designed to be part of combos or things like that instead of their own seperate thing
Why I never bothered touching Elden rings pvp because it was just spell spam and aow spam, unlike any other soulsborne game where you can actually get some parries and light combos in
God the Rakshasa’s armor is the sickest fucking thing. It’s like, just the right kind of edgy. And the Death Knight armor is no slouch either. There’s so much awesome fashion from the dlc.
death knight armor was a missed opportunity. could have had ethereal cape type thing like dancers crown from ds3 or the shadow assassin armor from elden base game. Just saying because when death knights wear the armor they have a ethereal translucent looking cape. but when you put on the armor it doesnt have that same cape. was disappointing for me.
i mean the ash of war swift slash for siding with hornsent isa obviously the better reward. but then you also get leda's lacerating talisman which enhances dash attacks. so could also be used with this build to make it even stronger. not sure if swift slash can be charged. if not then id say lord mohgs blood talisman, winged insignia/millicents pros talisman, and then the leda's lacerating talisman to furthere enhance the dash attack would be great. lacerating will probably give you more damage then using godfreys talisman. but then again you can go winged AND millicents and just test to see which of those 5 nets more dmg. godfreys only applies if the skill can be charged.
Nerfed the Longhorn (which was only good in PvE), Blasphemous Blade and slightly the Darkmoon Greatsword, just to give us the Fire Knight's Greatsword and Swift Slash.
a despretae effort to sell the dlc. Nerf base game weapons so DLC weapons are all the most broken things ever. Where is the quality control on this game
@@samuel.jpg.1080p I'm inclined to also complain about QA because how does something like Swift Slash make it into the release? You would have had to not even use it to think it was okay XD
@@samuel.jpg.1080p That's some high quality copium you are smoking. Desperate to sell the DLC? My brother in Christ, millions of people were waiting for it, there was no desperation on their part. A balance patch will come soon, relax your butt cheeks and wait patiently.
@@theredknight9314 are you actually cracked? you HAVE seen this video right? if YOU arent doing any damage with the skill, then thats your problem, get better at understanding basic game mechanics.
@@Reapra Wrong ash. He's talking about the perfume bottle nuke. If you didn't know, the rolling sparks WA for the perfume bottles creates a line of explosions that detonate after a bit, but if you aim it at the floor it all goes off at once. Super strong and capable of making very simple 1 shot builds for the DLC bosses.
@@HonakoGreen doesnt matter how "easy" it is to dodge, its a bug, it does 20K damage, and trying to dodge it while getting spammed by everything else at the same time is a tall ask in invasions.
I know it should be easy to dodge but just watch ChasetheBro’s video on it. Constantly one shotting people it’s outright absurd. Even people behind him. Just outrageous.
"I use Furled Finger's Trick-Mirror for fashion" he says, before drinking the flask that completely covers himself in very bright and opaque blue and green particle effects, perhaps a bit of an ironic statement.
I feel like they could balance some of these op ash of war by just making them cost more fp you shouldn’t be able to two shot ppl and have plenty of fp leftover
Apparently there's a scaling bug with the smithscript weapons that makes their damage ridiculous via flame art infusion(basically 500 base damage with both flame and physical damage getting boosted by the same amount from faith scaling alone) so imagine swift slash on the smithscript cirques and anyone who survives you can just yeet at em till they panic roll themselves into a bad spot.
Also seems to happen with magic infusion? My smithscript cirque apparently has a higher AR than the dark moon greatsword (810 vs 775) undoubtedly going to be patched in the future
@liam6550 I think it has to do with the fact that the smithscript weapons have int/faith scaling built in so when an infusion changes the scaling its counting that scaling for the physical dmg more than it should be.
I invaded into a 3 man earlier today, and they were just standing around in perfectly open ground, all 3 with swift slash. I lasted about 10 seconds. Blocked all 3 after that.
Pro tip: miquellas light still channels even if knocked out of animation. Spam it in front and itll completely counter this weapon and everything else melee
Been having a blast countering people using swift slash with the new scythe’s skill Dynastic Sickleplay. The s on it guarantee invincibility through the entire attack and if you unlock and tilt the stick correctly you can follow up if they try to use the ash of war back to back with a heavy. Highly recommend giving it a go sometime. Tricky to pull off if someone delays their Swift Slash spam though
Someone tried this, didn't have the same loadout, but i was far enough away, and i could assume lag had something to with it. Broski took a full charge of the dragons spear to the face on a rainy night. Didn't get invasion until i hung up my controller.
I’ve been invaded with that build and how I counter it is with the frost storm they dash right in the middle and eat the full frost bite and you can react fast enough to charge it
I hope they do something about this ash or at least make it parryable id even be happy with that Edit: seems it actually is parryable it's just got a rough window and you can still get hit with the vacuum blade effect
I run around a corner or roll behind cover and spam Mohgs Trident AoW while my buddies hurl lightning spears when I finally get a stagger/bloodloss. Only way I’ve ever survived 😂
8:35 I don’t think they realize that they’re using the wrong dragon form to boost attacks, it’s the ROCK form that boosts communion incants and then the priestess form that they’re using that boosts dragon CULT incants- and you might as well use the Godwyn death knight armor for that
The worst part about this being broken is that it's going to take two patches for the Blind Spot ash of war to get nerfed. One fore people to realize it's the next best thing, and another to bring THAT one into line as well lol.
Yup already know they will overlook blind spot because of how ridiculously dumb this aow is. With blind spot You can literally reaction an opponents attack like you would a roll but also deal damage
Had some try hard scrub invade my new STR build character try to spam that and I bullied him with good old great sword. lol Happened in Storm Veil castle at least 3 or 4 times before he just started disconnecting whenever he realized he was in my game. XD
A quick but balanced nerf to this is to remove any stagger effects and increase dwell time end lag so it’s not too easy to combo. But it’ll keep it fun to use for a while
It’s so broken that it actually would pass off as hacking for someone who doesn’t know that it is actually legit in the game.
thats what i thought when i got shid on in the arena by this move being spammed
Right? Like it actually reminds me of some of the hacks I’d see back in DKS1 Darkroot Garden. Some asshole would just teleport halfway across the screen, through you, then you’d explode with insta-bleed and turn into stone as you’re cursed. 😊
I deadass thought the guy that summoned me was hacking when they used it
I thought it was hacking at first couldn't believe it
Encountered one of these in arena and I'm scared
pvp was more balanced for all of one day lmao
It was also boring. DS3 is back the way you came old man
@@nlm7033 that as an argument is just brain dead no wonder u like the game
@@nlm7033you enjoy spamming one button ? And that’s your fun you have no desire to learn roll catching timing your dodges ? Etc etc
@@Cellsaga533 let him enjoy his one week of actually killing something before he never opens the game again, don't ruin it for the poor kid :(
@@trime1015 you really can tell when someone doesn't understand the finer parts of the pvp combat. we've lost all nuance
I genuinely cannot believe that weapon art ever made it onto the full release...
the weapon is fine, its the ash of war that is the problem
@@smolReji weapon art is ash of war
@@Steelfight_ weapon art in ds3 wasn’t L2 spam brain rot to win.
Why not? This is a PVE game first, PVP second.
@@SirLexion It was if you used a proper weapon. Splitleaf greatsword had a true combo
You know it's a scary ash of war when you can use a vanity talisman.
Crazy how From just went "What if we gave Backhand Blades 2 of the strongest ashes ever made?" They really made blindspot and swift slash available to the same weapon lmao.
worst part of the weapon is having to choose between them lmao
@rstarrkk Choose? May I present you with ng+ and beyond? All you need is that 2nd journey, solely focus on gettin to the dlc and bam. Now you can swap freely between the 2😊
@@Jblank1016 I was really hoping we could put blindspot on daggers, 0/10 for the dlc lol
@@the_bluecrystalpandaGoing to ng+ for a single weapon? Nah bro, all my homies dupe for that kinda thing.
Yeah and it's a shame since the base moveset of the weapon type is insanely balanced but effective, it's just that the weapon arts are insane lol
"Hello gamers" I hear from behind me in the cereal aisle of the supermarket. I don't look behind. There's no need. I know there's a cracked out store clerk with 2 reduced price kitchen knifes in each hand. Held backwards of course.
From 100ft away he lunges at me. My prices? Slashed. Destroyed. "Goodbye gamers" he says while waving.
this is too perfect
Comedy gold 😂
Ok, now jeenine is cornered
@@nicolas9908 "G9!!! Make a swift slash video and my life is yours!!!" Average viewer in every upload of him
@@Santi.Ocampos humor not your thing
@@nicolas9908it doesn’t seem like either of you have it down 😭
@@nicolas9908 it is not, my friend
It is not
he is gay
0:07 jesus christ the terror screams are real
"balanced"
I can't believe we ever complained about Moonveil
I can't believe PvP players complain about Bloodhound's Step too. At least with BHS and Monnveil you can actually win. But nope they're too good and nerfed them.
@@nguyen275 They still deserved a nerf. Doesnt mean this doesnt deserve one too.
@@nguyen275 yeah... No. BHS deserved it for pvp.
I never complained about it. Most didn't knownhow to use it properly. Lol
i ran into this the other day, and thought to myself, "there is no way this is as broken as i think it is...right?" and knew immediately that it probably was.
Genuinely crazy as hell like what the fuck were they thinking lmao
Seems like they weren’t thinking
Fromsoft suffers from brain worms.
Since the dlc came out ive been invaded just over a dozen times. Different people with different weapons, buffs, armor, but one thing was consistent amongst them all; AoW spam. Not a single light, heavy, or dual swing to speak of. The AoWs look too cool and feel too cool to not use constantly and thats why people cant help but mash the AoW button.
yea definitely a double edged sword, would be nicer if ashes of war were originally designed to be part of combos or things like that instead of their own seperate thing
This is how it was when the base game first launched too. Pretty things go brrrrr😂
AoW spam is not a new thing. Have over 2 or 3k invades. Everybody likes their super special moves.
Why I never bothered touching Elden rings pvp because it was just spell spam and aow spam, unlike any other soulsborne game where you can actually get some parries and light combos in
"Cause it's easy. And it does alot of damage."
Between that greatsword true combo, the oneshot perfume ash of war and this ash of war, the DLC has plenty of broken things
Day 1 elden ring experience
Enjoy it while it last
Its gonna be like this for a month
There are a lot of nasty weapons in this dlc
Elden Ring: The Quest for Hatemail
God the Rakshasa’s armor is the sickest fucking thing. It’s like, just the right kind of edgy. And the Death Knight armor is no slouch either. There’s so much awesome fashion from the dlc.
death knight armor was a missed opportunity. could have had ethereal cape type thing like dancers crown from ds3 or the shadow assassin armor from elden base game. Just saying because when death knights wear the armor they have a ethereal translucent looking cape. but when you put on the armor it doesnt have that same cape. was disappointing for me.
Worst part is you can use it to disengage as well. We got bloodhounds step powercreep before gta 6
I missed it in my first playthrough because I sided with Leda thinking her rewards would be good
@@dripmn1817 same
i mean the ash of war swift slash for siding with hornsent isa obviously the better reward. but then you also get leda's lacerating talisman which enhances dash attacks. so could also be used with this build to make it even stronger. not sure if swift slash can be charged. if not then id say lord mohgs blood talisman, winged insignia/millicents pros talisman, and then the leda's lacerating talisman to furthere enhance the dash attack would be great. lacerating will probably give you more damage then using godfreys talisman. but then again you can go winged AND millicents and just test to see which of those 5 nets more dmg. godfreys only applies if the skill can be charged.
Nerfed the Longhorn (which was only good in PvE), Blasphemous Blade and slightly the Darkmoon Greatsword, just to give us the Fire Knight's Greatsword and Swift Slash.
They nerfed DM greatsword...? With how shit INT builds are already??? Lmao, unreal.
a despretae effort to sell the dlc. Nerf base game weapons so DLC weapons are all the most broken things ever. Where is the quality control on this game
@@samuel.jpg.1080p I'm inclined to also complain about QA because how does something like Swift Slash make it into the release? You would have had to not even use it to think it was okay XD
@@samuel.jpg.1080p Were they really struggling to sell a DLC for a game that sold over 20 Million copies???
@@samuel.jpg.1080p That's some high quality copium you are smoking.
Desperate to sell the DLC? My brother in Christ, millions of people were waiting for it, there was no desperation on their part.
A balance patch will come soon, relax your butt cheeks and wait patiently.
How did this ash get left in? Did no one realise how broken it is?
Its not broken. Its damage is awful.
@@theredknight9314 High potency ganja has been smoked
what game are you playing?
@@theredknight9314 are you actually cracked? you HAVE seen this video right? if YOU arent doing any damage with the skill, then thats your problem, get better at understanding basic game mechanics.
@@theredknight9314 There's no way you actually typed that confidently
It really is always a curved sword with you in every game bro 💀
I think Rolling Sparks is a little ridiculous too lmao. One shot people jumping on you.
It's really easy to dodge for decent players tho
@@Reapra Wrong ash. He's talking about the perfume bottle nuke. If you didn't know, the rolling sparks WA for the perfume bottles creates a line of explosions that detonate after a bit, but if you aim it at the floor it all goes off at once. Super strong and capable of making very simple 1 shot builds for the DLC bosses.
@@HonakoGreen doesnt matter how "easy" it is to dodge, its a bug, it does 20K damage, and trying to dodge it while getting spammed by everything else at the same time is a tall ask in invasions.
Even in PVE, i tried it on ng against final boss and the boss died in like 3 or 4 rolling sparks.
I know it should be easy to dodge but just watch ChasetheBro’s video on it. Constantly one shotting people it’s outright absurd. Even people behind him. Just outrageous.
3/4's of this video's sound is just people's characters horrifically screaming.
"wow the game is so balanced now after the patch"
dlc: allow me to introduce myself
i mean a dlc was obviously going to introduce more broken weapons lol. delusional/naive if you were thinking otherwise.
"I use Furled Finger's Trick-Mirror for fashion" he says, before drinking the flask that completely covers himself in very bright and opaque blue and green particle effects, perhaps a bit of an ironic statement.
Its like 10 seconds. Short attention span?
The crazy thing is that this ash, like just the dash attack alone, without the crazy wind blades, would already be super good
This ash of war is definitely something Virgil would gush over.😺
"Two blades that can use Judgement Cut? No sheathing and unsheathing required? What is this power?"
@@goosmdoosm4755 "and can i learn it?"
Im definitely replacing the backhand blades with 2 yamatos
I wish the trick mirror didn't take a talisman slot
probably the most outright unbalanced thing fromsoft has ever added to a souls like EVER lmao
Brought this into arena and got a ton of hate messages lol
This should be an invader covenant reward and not available for the run of the mill casuls.
Wait. No covenants.
Crazy they left covenants out this game when thematically it makes the most sense. There should have been one for each demigod.
psa, you can parry it. Press parry right after the person charging it rockets off from the start point ;D
I can't believe they added UMvC3 Vergil to Elden Ring...
I feel like they could balance some of these op ash of war by just making them cost more fp you shouldn’t be able to two shot ppl and have plenty of fp leftover
It can be parried. I parried a dude twice, he quit.
Rivers of wind
7:15 that enemy can heal us, miyazaki san does love us :D
Oh man I knew that first clip was gonna be on here after seeing it on stream lol
I invaded two guys doing this last night, i had 118 poise and they still clowned my ass when i tried to trade
designer really just took moves from DMC
Apparently there's a scaling bug with the smithscript weapons that makes their damage ridiculous via flame art infusion(basically 500 base damage with both flame and physical damage getting boosted by the same amount from faith scaling alone) so imagine swift slash on the smithscript cirques and anyone who survives you can just yeet at em till they panic roll themselves into a bad spot.
Also seems to happen with magic infusion? My smithscript cirque apparently has a higher AR than the dark moon greatsword (810 vs 775) undoubtedly going to be patched in the future
@liam6550 I think it has to do with the fact that the smithscript weapons have int/faith scaling built in so when an infusion changes the scaling its counting that scaling for the physical dmg more than it should be.
The damage/ effects are fine. It needs to not combo into itself and have more end lag/recovery frames on it to prevent the combo spam
yeah way less stagger and the second part shouldnt even do poise damage lol
basically a slightly upgraded half of a bloodhound finesse
Yea, the fact that you can recast and therefore reposition so quick is insane. Put some endframes on that like scarlet aeonia and the messmer AoW
No just nerf it to the ground. the stun, damge, recovery, speed, fp, range, hit box. If they half ass the nerf it will still be obnoxious.
I invaded into a 3 man earlier today, and they were just standing around in perfectly open ground, all 3 with swift slash. I lasted about 10 seconds. Blocked all 3 after that.
Nothin personel kid: The ash of war.
currently using this on my pve playthrough. Want to start pvping but honestly just seems unfair.
good on you. pvping with this is basically just like hacking.
fun for the first few times, gets really boring and embarrassing fast.
Use it so they nerf it sooner. Fromsoft has a tendency to leave things broken for a while
That stance damage on top of everything is extra silly
Pro tip: miquellas light still channels even if knocked out of animation. Spam it in front and itll completely counter this weapon and everything else melee
Been having a blast countering people using swift slash with the new scythe’s skill Dynastic Sickleplay. The s on it guarantee invincibility through the entire attack and if you unlock and tilt the stick correctly you can follow up if they try to use the ash of war back to back with a heavy. Highly recommend giving it a go sometime. Tricky to pull off if someone delays their Swift Slash spam though
Legit one of the most fun movements, surprised noone is talking about this one.
have you experimented with applying a classic blood/arcane build using this? wondering how it stacks up
Someone tried this, didn't have the same loadout, but i was far enough away, and i could assume lag had something to with it.
Broski took a full charge of the dragons spear to the face on a rainy night.
Didn't get invasion until i hung up my controller.
I’ve been invaded with that build and how I counter it is with the frost storm they dash right in the middle and eat the full frost bite and you can react fast enough to charge it
I hope they do something about this ash or at least make it parryable id even be happy with that
Edit: seems it actually is parryable it's just got a rough window and you can still get hit with the vacuum blade effect
Just won like 15 invasions in a row very easily lmfao, this makes you feel like such a piece of shit. The perfume ain’t shit next to this
pvp wise maybe. perfume casts a shadow as tall as furnace giant when it comes to pve. lol
I looked up the different rewards for how you get this ash of war and after learning what people thought of this I chose to help Leda 😅
What class are u playing?
I run around a corner or roll behind cover and spam Mohgs Trident AoW while my buddies hurl lightning spears when I finally get a stagger/bloodloss. Only way I’ve ever survived 😂
That low FP cost...insane.
Ahh ugh ha yyaahhhh-too much tarnished SCREAMING OUT OF PAIN😂
the smithscript shield has crazy tracking and it's really cheap, should look into
Impenetrable thorns is just as equally broken specially with high arcane and high faith, we've been stun locking/nuking invaders.
This kinda reminds me of back in the dark souls 1 days OBOBOBO MOONLIGHT BLADE ENCHANTMENT WITH The Falchion curved sword and elite armor set 😂
you see someone charge up that weapon art, cast that rolling sparks at your feet see if they change their mind
Oh is that like a good way to counter it cuz being on the receiving end of this video is insufferable.
@@xcolmanrickx3027 yeah you gotta get at the timing but they are kinda forced to take the brunt of 1200 damage or so
Smithscript Cirque can use the ash too, granted the smithscript weapons are kinda lackluster.
Oro showcasing the infinite FP and stam but out of combat is funny. What a goober
...Well, that's just uncalled for. You're a mean man, Mr. Oroboro.
The screams, man... the screams are real...
Spread Crossbow with Rot or Blood Bolts is also really dirty in PvP. There came a lot of mean stuff with this DLC, though.
This is nothing compared to the true power of Nanaya's Torch. May chaos take the world (and instantly proc madness)
8:35 I don’t think they realize that they’re using the wrong dragon form to boost attacks, it’s the ROCK form that boosts communion incants and then the priestess form that they’re using that boosts dragon CULT incants- and you might as well use the Godwyn death knight armor for that
Try these with the throwable smith script blades. It’s INSANE 👀
all fun and games till you get the one guy who jump attacks it or times their attacks to hit you mid dash (you don't have i frames for swift slash)
unfortunately the cerulean hidden tear was nerfed in the first patch for the DLC. Now it only last 10 seconds.
Yea...that borken right there.
saw this on twitter and legit though it was mods. Holy crap that’s insane. Will be defo testing on a PVE build
the screams of terror lol
Mr. Oro just out here sending a message for the people
They should buff this to also add projectiles that seek.
I was gonna start a dex faith playthrough and now i learn this weapons existed. Its for sure gonna get nerfed right?
The worst part about this being broken is that it's going to take two patches for the Blind Spot ash of war to get nerfed. One fore people to realize it's the next best thing, and another to bring THAT one into line as well lol.
Yup already know they will overlook blind spot because of how ridiculously dumb this aow is. With blind spot You can literally reaction an opponents attack like you would a roll but also deal damage
“Balanced “ took me out!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I never pay much attention to thumbnails but I gotta say this one is sick
I feel like Fromsoft took some inspiration from Lords of the Fallen with some of the designs for armors / weapons in the DLC.
Black Flame Tornado whenever I see this
The screams are killing me
Had some try hard scrub invade my new STR build character try to spam that and I bullied him with good old great sword. lol Happened in Storm Veil castle at least 3 or 4 times before he just started disconnecting whenever he realized he was in my game. XD
even WHEN they patch this i can already tell it wont do much XD
This would probably be a really cool and still powerful ash if it didn't have the absurd aoe.
They need to have this thing not stun everything and slightly increase its recovery, that might balance it out..
Meanwhile im standing gobsmacked with my humble smithscript hammer and shield 😢
This and the Rolling Sparks Perfumer AoW are the 1st on the list for the nerf hammer😂
Hell yeah. I absolutely love the weapons in this DLC.
This shi is unbelievably OP 😂
They should have made a Gaol boss with and npc just spamming the weapon art. It would probably be considered the hardest From boss ever lol
In a 3 v 1 situation you can still get destroyed lol
I vote we just remove it from the game rather than try and balance that fucking nightmare
Looks almost like that AOW has more s than the dodge roll.
A quick but balanced nerf to this is to remove any stagger effects and increase dwell time end lag so it’s not too easy to combo. But it’ll keep it fun to use for a while
I thought we were safe after moonveil nerf, oh god i was wrong
Ngl when I first got this ash of war I didn't believe it was all that strong. Got invaded once and tried it out. It definitely is haha
this thing doesnt have i-frames. Ive died and killed enough people during the animation enough times to know that.
Oh thank god. Have you tried parrying it?
@@thecandyman7807 it can be parried
Wonder if Lacerating Crossed-Tree Talisman can buff the AOW