@@anncooper6941 🤠🍻 In an urban environment, I may agree with CC 9 places out of 10. My argument is merely a reminder to Mr. Noir and countless others that the overwhelming majority of this country is rural....and despite what big city folks think, what goes for them is often pointless out in the sticks.
No disrespect to you, but population counts are higher in cities. I do believe that open carrying is alright in the country, but in the city if a criminal sees someone open carrying a gun, they're a target and the gun is also seen as possibly an opportunity. @@plowboysghost
@@plowboysghostYou’re both right. Most of America is country backwoods, but most live in urban areas. Honestly I respect both sides and just try to act accordingly to my surroundings when I carry one day.
I agree with him on one point. I don't care what you do as long as you are safe about it. I don't open carry "primarily" because I don't like to draw attention to myself.
@@TVhyrusI certainly would be surprised because I take note of anyone open carrying. Not, as I said elsewhere, because I’m worried about them, but because I figure they are the ones who are going to get shot first if there’s a bad guy in the area looking to rack up a body count. I don’t know how you could miss someone with a hog leg on their hip like the fellow in this video.
Personally, I conceal carry so that I don't have to deal with the Karens or the police. But I also like it when others around me are open carrying as the attention is on them instead of me. I attend a potluck in a park once a month here in Murderapolis. At least two people open carry, and at least 3 others, including myself, conceal carry. The people open carrying are a deterrent to criminals. But in case a criminal is still bold enough to attack any of us, there will be at least 3 guns trained on them that they didn't know were there.
I don’t care if it’s open or concealed. Carry. Period. Unless you know you aren’t responsible enough. Yall be your own first responder. Learn stop the bleed too.
I attended a church sale yesterday, open carrying my .357. While browsing, one of the little old ladies running the sale came up to me and said, "I feel safe now, cause if anything happens here I'll know who to holler for," lol. It's great to get positive comments like this.
Why would I want to be a tyrant and extortionist? I don’t like police nor support them. I carry a gun and a blowout first aid kit in my car, so I don’t need to risk being shot by rookie having an acorn dropped on them.
I'm dark skinned, I never open carry, because when I do I only get the weird stares as if they are waiting for me to do something. Even when I'm on my own property mowing the lawn. LoL.
I watched a zombie leaving the scene of his destruction as I pulled in for my daily addiction to Cokeacola. I asked why? Owner said they didn’t have the brand of rolling cigars he preferred. 🙄 That lil’ scrawny dude toppled 2 of those concrete, chest high, trash receptacles that block cars from doing drive thru’s! Took 3 big guys to help upright em. Go big boys if you can! 🎯
The only problem with open carry are the fools that get freaked out by it. Several years ago my nephew and I went into a store open carrying, there was a couple in the store and the Woman said "Oh my god they have guns" she and her partner literally ran out of the store. The cashier started laughing and told us that she always feels safer when folks like us come into the store.
I don't open carry because I'm surrounded by ninjas and I'm not setting myself to get sucker punched. You can't watch everyone at the same time in wally world.
"No purpose" is rather absolute. Both forms of carry have merit depending on the individual. Saying there is no purpose is close minded. You can have your opinion on how to carry but your statement is uneducated.
Expectation that appearing armed makes one more likely to be harmed is a repeating fallacy...given that almost EVERY civilian targeted day to day isn't open carrying. Id say that concealed carrying puts you at greater risk of assault than OC.
@@plowboysghost Your view is that since most targets aren't open carrying, that open carrying must be safe. That's like saying most people who die today aren't dying of jumping off buildings, so therefore jumping off buildings must be safe.
Those intent on committing a crime of robbery, etc in a place of business will take down the threat first, I.e. the person with the gun. SMH. This is not rocket science.
I’m always paying attention in public, especially in a store. I don’t see threat levels going down any time soon. I like Colion Noir because he speaks for our rights publicly and we need all the intelligent voices we can get.
@@raptorman6589 haven’t heard his spouting any moms demand action talking points and they’ve got all the funding of the DNC, I understand what’s happening when he’s got an Olight discount code
@@jeffhuntley2921 situational awareness is the key to keeping yourself and your loved ones safe. Many years ago I taught a class on that topic. Cheers!
That guy is full of it,attorneys on retainer. Because carry insurance is a fraud and he makes money off something can throw you under the bus before you protect yourself. Mr.Noir
To quote John wayne " Maybe you can get that fancy gun outa that fancy Holster before a gentleman with an old fashioned 6 shooter blows a hole in ya"haha
All very good points and well said. I met a fellow in a walmart the other day who was open carrying a 1911 and as he pushed his cart by me, I pointed to his weapon and smiled big, then brushed aside my concealed Sig under an open shirt. This struck up a conversation where I said he was the first open carry I'd seen in Arkansas in all my years here, and yes, I look for them all the time. He says he's seen a few, but not enough in his mind. He said he's had positive comments from people and owners of businesses, and never had anyone freak out. He was ex military security and I saw him, like me, always scanning the area around us, but very friendly witrh me. I enjoyed our talk and have decided to open carry after that talk we had, as I'm tired of hiding it. We're constitutionaly carry here, and you need no permit to carry concealed or openly. Good show, sir. Thanks for your input on the subject, sir. I agree with you, and I have watched Colion in the past. He's okay, but a little too giddy for my tastes.
Ive lived in NW Ark going on 5 yrs now. Have been carrying concealed 25+yrs. Each and every LE/Highway patrol ive ever encountered has thanked me for carrying.......from full size 1911s to 357/38 sp snubbies to 22 mag NA.
Hi Plowboy! I watched that one too and I think part of the issue was that the guy had no holster at all, just the grip sticking out of his pocket. He was standing in line with his back to the door and the kid grabbed it and ran. " What do you do when someone takes your gun?" was a question raised. My answer is pull out the backup! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
With no holster being involved at all, that settles it in my mind. Were arguing over an idiot who wasnt open carrying, he was getting lucky. Some sort of holster is required... If what your saying is accurate about it being in a pocket, he was asking for it. To compare this to any sort of a holster carry option, either open or concealed, is a conceded misrepresentation of carrying in any form.
@@Rumblestrip Even a cheap holster is like $40-60 and if all you could afford is a $200 pistol then that's a lot of money. I never had to pull my pistol out more than before I could afford a good holster.
My preference is concealed carry. The reason being I don’t want to be perceived as a threat to a bad guy. The only time I open carry is if I’m in the woods or somewhere like that. Cheers!
@@sherlock1895 I believe in deterrence first, then a clean /reliable draw, if needed. Makes no difference to me whether a violent felon sees me as good or "bad"...so long as he sees me as more difficult than an unarmed person/seemingly unarmed concealed carrier. Remember...the most survivable attack is the one you're not involved in.
@@plowboysghost I certainly agree with your last comment because prior to my retirement I taught a class on Situational Awareness. Your other comment not so much. Open carry identifies you as a threat. Consequently, a person intent on mayhem will take that person out of the equation before they knew what hit them. That is a fact. However, we all make our own decisions. Cheers!
@@sherlock1895 It seems I have to state, frequently, that probably 98-99% of civilians targeted in violent crime are either genuinely/ obviously unarmed, or seemingly unarmed . That is more than enough for me to conclude that the fear of being targeted while open carrying is an emotional fear unsupported by data. I've stated that OC isn't right for everyone or for everywhere . I don't care how anyone carries, but I take issue with those so consumed by their own fears and prejudice that they think EVERYone should do it the way THEY, those with little to no experience open carrying in plain clothes, feel is best....no matter how many years/decades the other person has in experience with OC.
@@plowboysghost I respectfully question where you found the 98-99% statistic. You may want to speak with your local law enforcement folks about these issues. The more education we all get the better prepared we will be for the unexpected. We are prepared through education, situational awareness, proper training and practice. Cheers!
@@sherlock1895 I don't know of ANY open carrying civilian attacked while open carrying(I'm sure some have been, though)...but I see stories every day of people attacked while seemingly unarmed or genuinely unarmed. They're on the news, every day . I've personally had close family memberS(plural )murdered...one while unarmed, and one while concealed carrying. Ive been attacked while unarmed(decades ago)....yet I don't know a soul attacked while open carrying. Look at the violent assault stats in CA, IL, NY, and every other place that doesn't allow OC and tell me that violent felons don't target people who are either seemingly unarmed or genuinely unarmed more frequently. Once again, you carry how you want . I'll carry how I have been for a hell of a long time. Your opinion doesn't outweigh my experience, so you aren't going to change anything here. I conceal carried for 20+ years, and I've open carried for 12+ years. I don't need any help figuring out what works for me. If OC makes you that uncomfortable, don't OC....but understand that someone with enough experience open carrying has moved beyond fear and theory. You can disagree with them, but you have no say in their open carrying any more than they have in your choice of carry mode. Best of luck to you, sir🍻
Open carry does have its humorous aspects at times. I was once “helped” by a stranger in line at the bank. He wanted to let me know that I “accidentally” left the hammer back on my 1911. Thanks pal, you’re a real peach! 🤣👍
I never understood the whole "You should never open carry" crowd. Make yourself a target? Sure, if you are the only person open carrying, but what if EVERYONE was doing it? I know a lot of criminals are dumb, but if I was going to rob a place and I noticed that 10 out of 15 people in the joint had a pistol strapped to their hip I'd probably decide to go elsewhere. And there is a reason certain critters openly display their defense mechanisms. You don't mess with a porcupine because those quills look nasty, and most bigger critters don't think the fight is worth it. You want less crime? Let criminals know that people are carrying the means to defend themselves, and the will to use them.
Exactly. Nobody in ancient times with a sword on their hip was fucked with. Even if they secretly had a dagger it was always someone who didn't appear to have anything that would get robbed etc. In markets
@@ordinaryman1904 Well Ordinary, you are only about 140 years out from a time in American where everyone HAD to carry a gun with them at all times out of necessity. Travelling the wilderness without a gun for hunting and protection would have been a death wish. And, get this, they would have carried it partially for the same reason we need to now - No one is there to save you. Whether riding a stage coach between settlements or driving between cities, law enforcement is not there to protect you. If you get into trouble its up to you to protect you. The police just come by and clean up the mess later.
Head on a swivel, always looking. I tell my wife, I’m not paranoid, just aware. She’s doing better herself when out and around. Great video! Lots of great points!!
Very well said. We need more of this. We don’t have to agree, but we can be civilized. And when both sides have sensible reasons it makes for good conversation.
The guy in the video he’s talking about could have easily been shot with his own gun. He even started to try and tackle the guy who snatched it, then thought better and ran!
I think more criminals are less likely to go after somebody who appears to be a hard target“open carrying“ versus somebody who’s concealed carrying and they can’t tell they have a gun so they might be a softer target
I always open carry on my motorcycle, I truly believe it saved me from a robbery or worse. I had pulled over to put rain gear on at an abandoned gas station in Arkansas (bad choice on my part) and out of nowhere two shady cats in a busted up car came up on me staring me down. I turned toward them and made my Glock 19 visible and the driver pointed at it and said something to the passenger and they drove off. They were planning on rolling me, didn't happen. Carry how you want, no right or wrong way if you are safe and responsible.
A real criminal makes a mental note and when you aren't carrying at a bar he helps himself to the stuff in your truck. You can't hardly beat a criminal at the game. Be polite to them and spook them if you have the ability. Of course keep your firearm on you and stay out the bars
I personally would not open carry. I want the element of surprise. You can't watch everyone all the time. People stub their toes in their own house. But living in the country does change the dynamics of the situation.
I open carried (OC) for 30 years as a working cop but prefer to keep things hidden in retirement. One of the things I did was keep my forearm over the holstered weapon when people were around me. Security holsters were still somewhat expermintal before my ‘97 retirement.
I agree. I open carry, and I'm always alert in public. I can understand the concern, I guess. Now a days everyone has their face in their phones all the time. It was like a year ago. I was coming out of the mall at night just before closing. There were some "thugs" hanging out in the parking lot. I took note of them right away. Mostly because that's normal for me but also because they were almost trying to be hidden. I also noticed they were watching people coming out of the mall. They obviously left me alone because of the iron on my hip. I came to find out they robbed and nearly killed a young man who came out sometime after I left. I don't see how people can miss the logic in that. Who's going to say "hey let's target that guy. He's carrying a gun on his hip." No, sir. They are going to target people who appear to be defenseless. It shouldn't come as a surprise. Taking guns away from lawful citizens is even more foolish. There are countries that are trying that right now. They would lead you to believe it's working. Don't believe statistics. Statistics is a con man's tool. Try asking them why all of a sudden they are trying to ban any knife with a point. Ask them how effective a knife attached to the end of a stick is and how they know. Ask them why all of a sudden, the criminal element started carrying sticks with knives on the end. It seems like something that would be vary inconvenient to carry around. That's what they are doing now. Ask them if they ban knives how long it will be before they have to go chopping down trees all over the country because criminals are carrying sharp sticks instead. It's like you said, this is a tool. The person carrying it is the weapon, and they will always find a way. If we ban firearms, it will be in favor of the criminal element. They won't have to worry about their victims being able to defend themselves.
I got an expensive pistol. Was told someone would steal it off me. The thing for me is people walk around with $1,500+ phones open for anyone to take daily.
The vigilance you mentioned is the most important part of the whole subject whether you open, conceal or dont carry at all everybody should pay attention to everything around them when they can.
Your correct. If concealed carry was the way to go, then why do non uniformed officers (detectives in shirt and tie) open carry, instead of concealed carry. Because when the crap hits the fan, open carry is MUCH faster.
Because it's television, and TV and movies like to display guns. I've never seen a real detective open carrying, unless they're at a crime scene or in the station, and it's too hot to wear a coat. Also, I've NEVER seen a real detective, other than a rookie detective, wearing a shoulder holster! 😊
@@georgegravette1132EXACTLY! Been there, done both. TV is not reality and no, open carry is NOT appreciably faster IF youre a serious professional and train to proficiency
To be honest it doesn't matter for example if you're fighting to begin with or it could be concealed an the open carrier was distracted or to slow lot's of variables such as age an physical ability here not every situation is the same.You can have it holstered beat my draw an still miss anything is possible.
I’m in Tucson as well. I open carry cross draw. If I carry any other way, my weapon’s checkering tears up my clothes, and my truck’s cloth seats! 🤦🏻♂️
Depends on where I am. I open carry a LOT. There is nothing wrong with it at all. Those that don’t open carry because they are “worried about what others think or feel” or “because of cops” are honestly out of it. They aren’t on that 2A train like they think they are…
Respect to this here gentleman, I’ve always said if you are carrying, always keep aware of your surroundings, you are the first line of defense for yourself and the innocent folk around you, god bless.
I disagree with open carry. As someone else here stated, I’d rather be the surprise than the target. Personal opinion/choice and level of training is what matters.
@@georgevanaken925 Yup, while you’re getting shot I have a chance to move and draw my concealed weapon. I’m armed 99% of the time I am outside my home and no one ever knows. As I said, personal preference. I have no problem with those who choose open carry EXCEPT for the clowns who strap on an AR just to go out and cause a confrontation. They know it will happen. That to me is very childish and works against those of us who are adamant about preserving our second amendment rights.
Fortunately in Georgia, we have Constitutional carry, so, we can carry however we want. We don't even need a holster. Just stick your gun in your belt, and or pants and go if that is how you choose to carry. I did get a carry belt last year, and it really makes a difference with holster retention and stability. I carry both ways, sometimes open and sometimes concealed. Bigger guns I carry openly.
We have permitless carry in Texas also. It will give me a great big smile if our country ever gets Constitutional carry though! (or even if any states get it)
@@bigdaddycool4242 South Carolina does not allow adults over 18 to carry firearms everywhere. (THAT would be Constitutional Carry). They probably (like all states that have "permitless carry") allow the same people to carry a firearm, in the same places, with the same infringements - as their permitted carry laws would allow..... just without a permit.
@@TeranRealtor Law was just passed in March of this year by Governor McMaster for constitutional carry. “This Act went into effect on March 7, 2024. The act authorizes individuals 18 years of age and older who are not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm, to legally possess a firearm openly or concealed regardless of whether or not they have received training or have a concealed weapons permit.”
Excellent points made. Both for and against methods of carrying a firearm. Having been a peace officer for 28 years, I'll tell you this. We were always watching everything arounds us. Both on duty and off. We were trained to observe. To give a detailed description of a suspect from a single glance. We watched the actions of people, constantly analysing suspicious activity. We were required to be armed off duty. And compelled to act upon a felony or assault within our view. We trained on weapon retention often. Many officers loose their lives being shot by their own weapon. Now my personal opinion. Long retired, and in my early 70's, I'm no longer the young and strong 6' 210# bodybuilder and able to fight off an attack. I'm now a 160# diabetic with severe balance issues. Thus I keep a firearm on me at all times. If confronted by an attack by one of more suspects, I will, repeat, will resort to deadly force. I rarely open carry. I don't advertise the fact I'm armed. Decades of training, and three shootings during my career, I can deploy a firearm quickly. And I definitely know how to use it. I'll not be a victim. Period. But I'll not tempt anyone to try for my weapon when visible. Thus, I carry a concealed handgun in an easily deployed position. I've got my own range out in the woods were I live. I train nearly every other day on drawing from concealed. Once a week, I'll train with live fire on one or more targets. No running and crouching down behind little plywood walls like the "tatical kids" do. I'm not physically able to. Nope, I draw and fire from where I stand. Or from a chair, as if in a car or seated at a restaurant. But the point is, I train. The fact that some people are killed trying to deploy a weapon from an unattainable holster position, frankly, that's a clear indication of a total lack of training. Period. They figured that they were armed, and thus capable. Wrong. Without proper training and consistent practice with the weapon system they use, they become a liability. Good intentions never won a confrontation let alone a gunfight. So, in closing I'll say this. If you decide to carry a weapon, be responsible enough to know how to shoot. When to shoot. And train and practice with it continually. Whether you carry open or concealed. And if placed in a situation where the difference in the outcome depends upon your actions, remember this. You are the "first responder" and how well you react will be how well you trained. Thanks for letting an old soldier and peace officer take a moment or your time.
I agree that situational awareness is very important for everyone, whether you carry open or concealed or are unarmed. Keep your head on a swivel at all times .
Agree, criminals are lazy or they'd have jobs. They don't want to face armed individuals, it's easier to find a soft target. I also stand at a counter with my sidearm towards the counter.
I’ve done both. I can remember going into a store for the first time open carrying I felt like I had my ding-a-ling hanging out of my pants! Lol. But over time I became very comfortable with it. If I could carry concealed all the time I probably would. But the availability of comfortable holsters, a protruding belly, clothing and climate make it impossible to do so. When I do conceal it is with an OWB holster level 2 retention. I can’t do appendix, or IWB. I’ve tried multiple times with multiple holsters and it simply doesn’t work for me. I have 2 daily carries. A winter and a summer. My winter carry is a Springfield Hellcat Pro with my holster that’s OWB, tight to my hip and concealed 50% of the time until I take my jacket off then it becomes open. But my summer carry is a SW Bodyguard 380 with an integrated Crimson Trace laser. Fits down in my front pocket beautifully and not any heavier than a smartphone. It has a heavy enough trigger pull to where I never have to worry about accidental discharges. I carry for one reason and one reason only. SELF PRESERVATION. I don’t do third party shootings, I don’t go anywhere with a gun that I would never go to without one. When I follow those 3 basic rules my chances of ever having to use a firearm in self defense drop to almost zero.
Assuming he is not being mirrored/hacked here on YT, he seems to think the 9mm is all the power you need for self-defense or for Law Enforcement. I'm just the opposite, as I'm of the opinion, and have been for several decades, that the only reason to carry a 9mm pistol is because many such pistols carry a LOT of rounds in a single magazine. After just shy of thirty years as an LEO, both in uniform and plain clothes, I'm of the firm opinion that big relatively slow projectiles make more effective man stoppers than ANY 9mm that HAS to expand to be an effective man stopper The .40S&W and up starts out big and stays that way even if it does not expand dramatically like a 9mm HAS too! By the way, he disagrees with me on every point I've made above. Excellent video as usual! Keep 'em comin'!!!
Starts out big? It’s nominally 1mm bigger. That’s .045” for you machinists, and 3/64” for carpenters. I have plenty of pistols in 10mm, .41s, .44s and larger (even .510”) etc but let’s not kid ourselves that in the case of a bullet failure that a wound channel that’s .045” wider will make any difference. It’s probably going to be hole all the way through and where that hole ended up is far more important than a slight difference in diameter.
I have carried open and concealed depending on where I'm going and I'm always just as vigilant regardless because when you carry you are accepting the burden and responsibility that comes along with being armed.
@@Rumblestrip Don't make a big deal out of what? Open carry? Where I live it's a very gun friendly culture (until you're within a few miles of the college). But not that many people open carry for some reason. Except for in the mountains. Then every other person is openly packing.
@@plowboysghost kind of the same here. Unless, like i said, you get too close to the college. Then the blue haired people's safe space is threatened. Lol. I'm honestly surprised more people don't open carry.
I agree with your reasoning. I also majority open carry (a single action as well) for about 8 or so years now. Never had an issue, never had my gun stolen from the holster (which is hard to do from behind) . Now I agree that some places it would be wise to conceal (very crowded areas, gun free zones, etc), but to write off OC as bad everywhere is wrong. I have a pet peeve with the gun community, we'll take one fantasy idea and run with it as gospel. I'm in the opinion of who cares how you or Joe Blow carries THEIR gun, just carry the darn gun.
Well said, to both of you. One size doesn’t fit all. We are all at different stages of life and reside in different parts of this great nation. Carry on and stay prepared.
I'm currently living in Commifornia where open carry is unconstitutionally illegal. That being said, I've become extremely good at identifying people who are concealed carrying. 😅
THANK YOU! I thoroughly agree with you and the way you stay vigilant. You can’t get complacent, ESPECIALLY while carrying open. Even though I carry concealed here in Florida, at the grocery store, I ALWAYS grab a buggy/cart, whether I’m getting a lot or one item. I told my wife that it’s harder to get to me/us when a buggy’s in the way. By then, I have already drawn, depending upon the situation. Like they say, Complacency Kills. And YES; the way you carry yourself is crucial to whether or not you become a victim or not. 😊
I see both sides . And open carrying helps break the stigma people have about carrying cause we know there are people just terrified to see one and it is also like exercising a muscle if you don’t ever use it it will it will go away and that would not be a good thing. And I seen the video your talking about and the dude was oblivious to what was going on and like you said if you carry keep your head on a swivel. Good thing is I think the guy that got it took didn’t get the wrong end of it and he learned a valuable lesson that day if you are carrying pay attention to your surroundings.
AMEN! I wholeheartedly agree, and I also believe there is no telling how many crimed and or violence is deterred just because someone is open carrying and a gun is seen ! Keep up the kids 👌
No problem with open carry. However, there is a significantly higher risk that someone can grab/steel your gun if they see the gun and it is easy to grab. To each their own. My normal carry method is OWB. However I keep the gun covered with an untucked/long shirt or jacket. I like/prefer OWB because it is the fastest to deploy
Same. Mine is IWB with the grip exposed and the barrel on the inside. I wear a jacket, vest, or flannel shirt so that I can still remain discreet but have a quick access to my gun.
Aye, generally speaking, the only times I will conceal carry a firearm is when I’m either at a private venue or event where I know people are likely to be more skiddish or unwelcoming of me if I’m visibly armed (weddings and such), or if I am passing through a non 2nd amendment friendly city or state. Every other time I will carry as I always do, openly.
Hence my reply regarding hassle and certain situations and environments. I have actually had 5.0 called on me twice, while open carrying. nothing was illegal about it and nothing came of it, other than the hassle of it all. Cops said they got a call of a guy with a gun and had to investigate. I dont particularly appreciate getting the third degree and having my Privacy invaded on a whim, because somebody felt "Unsafe" while i was exercising my constitutional 2nd amendment right.
@@TightwadTodd aye, some places be turning that way. But since I have been carrying a firearm this past decade plus, I have learned to keep my temper in check, and on more than one occasion swallowed my pride in order to deal with potential confrontations. When carrying openly, I’ve had many folk come up and ask me questions; most are friendly like, curious about firearm choice or my reasons for carrying. Others have been downright insulting and vulgar, offended at the sight of my firearm. Luckily however, I’ve never had the police called on me when in public. As I say, I dress sharply, and carry myself smartly, avoiding the look of ‘Billy Joe out for beer” or a hoodlum. Crossed paths with many law enforcement on their patrols, never once getting a concerned look, even with a full size Sig or a revolver on my belt.
I wonder how many people in the comments remember this, “One sword keeps another in the sheath” even though it came from a a fictional series it makes sense the threat of potential reciprocal violence keeping others at bay
It's complicated and depends on the situation, which is unpredictable. I think open carry would deter 90% of perps. The worst 1% will shoot you in the back first. How the math works out for what is best who knows? I respect your opinion and I've considered open carrying a 6 gun but I think I'd only do it with a backup weapon available to the off hand.
I don't know where people get this ridiculous idea that open carrying makes one a target, but it doesn't make any sense, and it needs to stop. Criminals are predators. And predators don't attack the buffalo with the biggest horns. The predatory mindset is all about risk vs reward. Open carrying means you can provide armed resistance. That is a lot of risk to assume, and for what reward? Picking a fight with an armed defender is lose-lose. Even if you "win" the gunfight, you now have a capital murder charge with no statute of limitations hanging over you. There's no real winning outcome, no incentive to take on that much risk. And there's plenty of fish in the sea. Why target the guy that can shoot you when there's so many potential victims that can't? For a four year old iPhone with a cracked screen? A debt card that is going to be canceled in a matter of hours? For a $600 Glock? There's 400 million guns in this country, but you have to have that one? It doesn't make any sense. Stop. Just stop. We have an entire field of study dedicated to the criminal mindset and everything criminology tells us is that there is no bigger deterrent to violence than an armed victim. Open carrying deters violence not only against the carrier but also against everyone in their immediate vicinity. Nothing scares a predator more than armed resistance from an intended victim. That is why lions leave the buffalo with the biggest horns alone.
It makes you a target because as good as people think they are, they are not "head on a swivel" all the time and a dedicated gun criminal may very well NOT decide to leave you alone when he act. If he is in your blind spot or gets the jump on you, you are got! Look at the Dallas PD officer that was murdered sitting in his cruiser. Open carry in PD uniform didn't stop his killer.
@@alanshaddix2109 Cops are targeted more often than OC civilians. From someone who has open carried for 11+ years, I thank you for your concern...but I'm good.🍻
Think about it like this. There is plenty of cops that are open carrying, what’s the difference between a cop open carrying and a civilian open carrying? You don’t hear much about people snatching a cops gun, and yes I know they usually have level 2 holsters but all the same. I personally carry concealed because of where I live, I don’t see people open carrying so I don’t want to stand out.
Good stuff plowboy, I open carry alot myself and have picked up certain habits when out myself. Some being how I position myself in places, whether standin or sittin down, not to draw more attention then neccessary. Also with wheel guns have gotten to the point I almost always carry cross draw or reverse carry. Reverse carry more times then anything and have practiced the draw extensively. But when I have people in close proximity I've too picked up the habbit of resting my hand or wrist on the backstrap of the firearm and whatnot. Like you said comes down to mindset, vigilance, and knowing what's goin on around you more then the amount of ammo you got in the gun. You ain't goin to war, but you should be good with whatever tool you decide to carry and how you plan to carry it. God bless ya bud from ole Carolina.
@@plowboysghost very true. Reverse carry seems to be the same way in my opinion, I carry single actions reversed and canted forward. Works well if you practice some.
@@Rumblestrip amen to that brotha, been known to carry them myself. Have a few 51 navy's and a 44 model 60 army. Fine weapons indeed. God bless brotha from ole Carolina.
I prefer concealed carry. The main reason is there's too many people that freak out if they see a firearm. I don't want the trouble. Now I live in a non-open carry state, moot point. Carry however you want but, always carry.
Colion Noir does more damage to the 2A movement than he will ever help.. He's become pretty insufferable actually.. He is constantly presenting information that has no facts or statistics backing them up.. He also often presents circumstantial evidence as facts..
I’m in California with a CCW. I would open carry with my swivel drop leg if it was legal. the ultimate comfort. Yes, it does make you a target. Yes, there’s a chance of somebody taking your gun. The benefit of concealed carry is the element of surprise.
OC requires one to consider and prepare for weapon retention. I have updated/upgraded my (in town) carry position and retention safeguards in the year+ since I made this video.
A few decades ago when I was in my 20's I was a subcontractor and doing work in a consumer foods grocery store. I was having a conversation about guns and everything related with security and he told me about two guards from his company that were overseeing something in Atlanta and they were bragging about their shooting skills and speed of draw...before the nights end a couple guy's came in there and shot both of them dead because they were security they were targeted. The criminal's then carried out their intended robbery. I've never carried openly for self defense...only for hunting etc. . I don't want anyone around me to know that I'm armed. There are other instances out there similar to that story and I saw a video not long ago where an armed citizen was killed by an accomplice of an armed criminal he was following and had no idea the guy was following behind him.
@@bobyjones3905 Why would you let them see you reach for the weapon unless you were already targeted? and why would you be targeted when the armed guards were the target and you're either a customer or a subcontractor etc.? there's many examples, but perhaps you remember the 80 some odd year old gentleman in the barber shop that got robbed by two punks with semi autos? Old guy had a concealed derringer and put one in both their heads. He wasn't deemed a threat so he wasn't being watched or held at gunpoint. That's my reasoning for carrying concealed and never letting anyone know I'm armed. I certainly don't go around telling people they should or shouldn't open carry or conceal carry etc., but I do chime in on why I choose to conceal.
@@bobyjones3905 In those examples the only thing that can help is training, speed, accuracy. People that I knew personally that were shot all lived long enough to return fire except one and he was shot in the face with a 12 ga. oo buck load. So even if we do get the drop and plant one in the chest it doesn't mean we'll survive. BTW several months back there was a news video (it's on youtube) where a guy went in a convenience store open carrying and a thug punk in line behind him grabbed his gun from the holster and ran out of the store. I'd think it's a good idea to buy a good security holster as well if you open carry. I also had a friend that was working security for a grocery chain and a customer snatched his DA 357 mag from the holster and shot my friend and a utility clerk! I personally just have seen too many things involving open carry that makes me uncomfortable announcing that I'm armed. To be fair I knew another guy that had his gun taken off him during a robbery and he was conceal carrying, but targeted due to being an employee and another guy who was hit over the head in the park and rendered unconscious and left his gun home, but said it wouldn't have helped in that scenario and would have been taken if he had it as he never saw them coming.
They both have their place, if you open carry and have good situational awareness then it shouldn’t be an issue at all, if it is then you aren’t doing it right. You should be able to spot a threat before the threat spots you if you know what you are doing and most people don’t have the knowledge or training to do so. Those people should stay with concealed carry and call it a day, either way you are armed.
Respect your decision and your situational awareness while open carrying, but I won’t carry open for two main reasons; 1.) Colion is right, where criminals are more violent and more brazen, if they rush into a place to rob it and see your gun, you’re a threat to them. They may run away, but they may also make you their first target cause you’re standing between them and their loot. There’s a lot of places in this country where criminals aren’t afraid to murder. 2.) Maybe in the woods or farming communities, people are fully comfortable with seeing people carrying, but not everyone feels that way in all areas of the country. There’s no sense in scaring people in areas where it’s not as common. I respect your comparison of open vs concealed draw, but training is the most important key here. I have an open and concealed holster for my pistol, and I can draw both just as quick. Practice, practice, practice. But at the end of the day, we both stand for the same belief; the 2nd. Happy shooting brotha
Exactly. Open carry is fine in churches and Walmart. You're not going to run into any bad people there in all likelihood. But, you don't want to be open carrying at a convince store in Jackson, MS, Chicago, IL or Baltimore, MD in the bad part of town. There are people there who shoot cops who are open carrying. They are not scared of guns. Most of them have been shot at, if not shot, already.
Do you live in the country or city ? I live in central Texas and stand in line everywhere . And I often have one or more grandkids with me. I choose to be the secret in the room . If someone is robbing a store, they'll probably ignore me . They will probably just shoot the open carry guy and maybe hit the little girl standing next to him. Your opinion is yours and mine mine, but when I was 30, I thought like you
Just found your channel and subbed. You make a good point. I typically open carry a blued Vaquero with ivory grips when I am around town close to my ranch. If I have to go into the big city (and I avoid that hell hole as much as possible), I typically conceal carry a more modern sidearm. Situational awareness is key either way.
Having a good awareness of your surroundings is something everyone should be doing whether or not they carry. I prefer to be a grey man, but I wouldn't mind living in a world where open carry was more widely accepted.
One is just as dangerous open carrying as they are concealed carrying. The difference between the two is open cary has the element of surprise. Open carrying typically draws unwanted or additional attention to ones self.
I think the best way to open carry is to either go with a cowboy look or a clean off-duty officer look. This is so that anyone who might be concerned seeing your gun will instantly know you're put together well enough to not be a criminal.
Yes how you present yourself open carrying can have drastic differences in how people will perceive you and if they will see you as a hazard or as an asset. However the same goes with concealed, most people can figure out that the guy with 5 different manufacturer stickers and a big ol gadsten flag on the back windshield probably has a firearm and to a criminal that'll tell them if theres nobody in the vehicle theres probably a couple free guns just behind a piece of glass right there.
Open-carrying with "clean off-duty officer look" can get you killed. A better look would be the "just got back from deployment and haven't lost my edge yet."
Speaking for myself, I prefer Concealed Carry. You would be surprised how many people out there are “Bold” enough to snatch your gun from you, if you open carried it. I can only image the stress that puts on Law Enforcement, who always open carry their side arms. The only times that I would find it acceptable to open carry my gun is if I was in my home and/or property or if I was backpacking, hunting or camping in the outdoors. And by the way , “Bodega” is Spanish for “Corner Store.”
I liked what you had to say and I can see the points you made. My concern with open carry is: 1. Unless you're military or law enforcement, People who carry are not taught weapon retention (i.e. What to do if someone is trying to take your gun). Saying "Keep Control Of Your Firearm" is not enough. Just like drawing a firearm, means of keeping someone from taking the gun (Concealed or Open carrying) needs to be taught. 2. If open carrying, someone can call the police and falsely accuse you of drawing your gun and pointing it at them or someone might freak out and start yelling "He's Got A Gun!! He's Got A Gun!". And that will open a big can of worms. Unless I am at a shooting event, I'd rather no one know I have a gun till I draw it and use it. That's just me. Take Care and God Bless, Mr. Plowboy! And Hello To Mrs. Plowboy! You better catch up to her making those laps or she will start out running you! LOL
Ive actually had option 2 happen to me twice... Both times i was in a store, both times there were tons of cameras and witnesses, and 1 of the 2 got cited for making a false statement at the scene. Both times i wasnt spoken to until I'd made my way to my pick-up... The one that got cited is the only one i spoken to... I had a pair of 1851 Navy Colts and the officer was admiring them and wanted to pet them for a few and asked for pointers and advice with black powder arms.
I would never open-carry; I don't want to draw attention to myself, or risk upsetting someone and having the cops sicced on me. Situational awareness is always a good idea.
It depends on the situation. In the city, I like concealed for the element of surprise. In the back country, I like open carry to deter lone weirdos on the trail from a distance.
@@plowboysghost he makes good content, but thats what it is. You'll never catch me knockin anybody that carries, open or concealed, i go back and forth on occasion, but i primarily carry open. Got a couple shoulder rigs for it due to the fact i drive for a living. Hip holster just isnt conducive to sitting. Lol like you, ive hear arguments for and again both. I say carry how your comfortable, practice your draw, and keep your head on the swivel. The infighting was the point in these arguments, and they serve little to no purpose but to distract. I know we dont converse much Hoss, but usually we are in some sort of agreement
@@Rumblestrip I enjoy Plowboys content more . I have taken to shoulder carry as well. in my lighter youth, i carried crossdraw as it was the most safe and efficient to horseback work. nowdays im not as young or light and shoulder works better for me.. LOL
I personally think the pros and cons of open carry and concealed carry depend mostly on where you live. Personally I've seen a handful of people open carrying in my community and never once did I feel in danger or anything. I don't mess with other people. I stay in my own lane and I treat everyone with the utmost respect. But I also know for the few people I saw open carrying, there were probably 5 or 10 more who were carrying concealed. Luckily I live in a state where both options are viable and not all that hard to do lawfully. I could carry a colt 1851 navy caplock pistol in an open carry holster and probably be safe from people prying into my business. (I love black powder pistols)
I agree with you both as long as your being safe with an know how to use it in a situation,it's personal preference on how you carry,I also prefer not to draw attention to myself open carry,but I have been thinking of getting me a revolver .40 or ,357,since I'll be riding my bike soon here,I plan on riding with my side arm on my side,I love living in Tennessee where you can open carry or cancel carry.
Totally agree with you. The problem is that people are too lazy and to focused on their phones to be hyper aware or even semi aware of their surroundings. I carry a full size 1911 45acp and sometimes I open carry sometimes I conceal carry. Stay safe, stay aware and stay alive.
Remember that Colion lives in an urban environment that influences his opinions. I actually agree with both of you.
@@anncooper6941 🤠🍻
In an urban environment, I may agree with CC 9 places out of 10.
My argument is merely a reminder to Mr. Noir and countless others that the overwhelming majority of this country is rural....and despite what big city folks think, what goes for them is often pointless out in the sticks.
@@plowboysghostThe majority of the nation's population lives in urban and suburban areas not rural.
@@ericsierra-franco7802 The majority of the landmass in the US is rural.
No disrespect to you, but population counts are higher in cities. I do believe that open carrying is alright in the country, but in the city if a criminal sees someone open carrying a gun, they're a target and the gun is also seen as possibly an opportunity. @@plowboysghost
@@plowboysghostYou’re both right. Most of America is country backwoods, but most live in urban areas. Honestly I respect both sides and just try to act accordingly to my surroundings when I carry one day.
I agree with him on one point. I don't care what you do as long as you are safe about it. I don't open carry "primarily" because I don't like to draw attention to myself.
You would be shocked how few people even see it.
@@TVhyrusI think that depends where you live and decide to open carry. Where I live, if you open carried at a grocery store, everyone would notice.
@@TVhyrusI certainly would be surprised because I take note of anyone open carrying. Not, as I said elsewhere, because I’m worried about them, but because I figure they are the ones who are going to get shot first if there’s a bad guy in the area looking to rack up a body count. I don’t know how you could miss someone with a hog leg on their hip like the fellow in this video.
EXACTLY
@@Marty1911 There is NO "safe" way to carry a single action pistol in an open holster. Thats the very definition of some yahoo, cowboy, sh*t!
Personally, I conceal carry so that I don't have to deal with the Karens or the police. But I also like it when others around me are open carrying as the attention is on them instead of me. I attend a potluck in a park once a month here in Murderapolis. At least two people open carry, and at least 3 others, including myself, conceal carry. The people open carrying are a deterrent to criminals. But in case a criminal is still bold enough to attack any of us, there will be at least 3 guns trained on them that they didn't know were there.
@@AlllenBundy Thanks 👍
And you’ll probably miss cause you don’t train
@@RosaParksWasWyt WTF? You have no idea how I train.
@@AlllenBundy yes I do. And the answer is not at all lol
@@RosaParksWasWyt Up yers troll.
I don’t care if it’s open or concealed. Carry. Period. Unless you know you aren’t responsible enough. Yall be your own first responder. Learn stop the bleed too.
100% it is no ones business but their own!
I attended a church sale yesterday, open carrying my .357. While browsing, one of the little old ladies running the sale came up to me and said, "I feel safe now, cause if anything happens here I'll know who to holler for," lol. It's great to get positive comments like this.
Outstanding!
Be a cop then
Cop does not equal safe....Uvalde .@@losoway4505
Why would I want to be a tyrant and extortionist? I don’t like police nor support them. I carry a gun and a blowout first aid kit in my car, so I don’t need to risk being shot by rookie having an acorn dropped on them.
I'm dark skinned, I never open carry, because when I do I only get the weird stares as if they are waiting for me to do something. Even when I'm on my own property mowing the lawn. LoL.
Yep gotta keep your head on a swivel when your open carrying. A lot of people in the US don't realize how dangerous the country has become nowadays
Exactly!
Keep it on the swivel concealed to...
Absolutely 💯 correct 👏
Open carrying makes you a target to some real bad hombres. To me it’s not necessary thing to do.
I watched a zombie leaving the scene of his destruction as I pulled in for my daily addiction to Cokeacola. I asked why? Owner said they didn’t have the brand of rolling cigars he preferred. 🙄 That lil’ scrawny dude toppled 2 of those concrete, chest high, trash receptacles that block cars from doing drive thru’s! Took 3 big guys to help upright em. Go big boys if you can! 🎯
The only problem with open carry are the fools that get freaked out by it. Several years ago my nephew and I went into a store open carrying, there was a couple in the store and the Woman said "Oh my god they have guns" she and her partner literally ran out of the store. The cashier started laughing and told us that she always feels safer when folks like us come into the store.
@@anthonypeters6861 I don't suffer fools
I don't open carry because I'm surrounded by ninjas and I'm not setting myself to get sucker punched. You can't watch everyone at the same time in wally world.
@@vittoriovuocolo2438 Been OC in Walmart for over a decade .
@@plowboysghost
Not quite a decade but same 👌🏼
I see no purpose to open carry. It’s fine and should be legal everywhere, but personally I’d rather no one know I’m carrying.
@@kopingkiller Do what makes you feel best🍻
there is a purpose for open carry, when your out in nature with no people around.
@@mtnbound2764 Your opinion and my experience are two different things.
@@plowboysghost lol and your opinion and my experience are two different things. ones experience is not the rule.
"No purpose" is rather absolute. Both forms of carry have merit depending on the individual. Saying there is no purpose is close minded. You can have your opinion on how to carry but your statement is uneducated.
I would rather be the surprise than the target.
Expectation that appearing armed makes one more likely to be harmed is a repeating fallacy...given that almost EVERY civilian targeted day to day isn't open carrying.
Id say that concealed carrying puts you at greater risk of assault than OC.
@@plowboysghost Your view is that since most targets aren't open carrying, that open carrying must be safe. That's like saying most people who die today aren't dying of jumping off buildings, so therefore jumping off buildings must be safe.
@@mhl2674 It's like saying that most people targeted aren't open carrying.. therefore you have no data to support your supposition theory.
Those intent on committing a crime of robbery, etc in a place of business will take down the threat first, I.e. the person with the gun. SMH. This is not rocket science.
Damn right.
I’m always paying attention in public, especially in a store. I don’t see threat levels going down any time soon. I like Colion Noir because he speaks for our rights publicly and we need all the intelligent voices we can get.
He's a puppet that will say whatever you pay him to say
@@raptorman6589 haven’t heard his spouting any moms demand action talking points and they’ve got all the funding of the DNC, I understand what’s happening when he’s got an Olight discount code
@@jeffhuntley2921 situational awareness is the key to keeping yourself and your loved ones safe. Many years ago I taught a class on that topic. Cheers!
I like Colion, he has a real common sense approach to things. But I learned pistol shooting and situational awareness from the master, Col Jeff Cooper
That guy is full of it,attorneys on retainer. Because carry insurance is a fraud and he makes money off something can throw you under the bus before you protect yourself. Mr.Noir
To quote John wayne " Maybe you can get that fancy gun outa that fancy Holster before a gentleman with an old fashioned 6 shooter blows a hole in ya"haha
Lol i thought about that quote about halfway through the video as well.
Hell yeah. 🍻
@@snappers_antique_firearms 😁 Wish I had though of it during recording...
Big Jake.
@@TightwadTodd Yep!
All very good points and well said. I met a fellow in a walmart the other day who was open carrying a 1911 and as he pushed his cart by me, I pointed to his weapon and smiled big, then brushed aside my concealed Sig under an open shirt. This struck up a conversation where I said he was the first open carry I'd seen in Arkansas in all my years here, and yes, I look for them all the time. He says he's seen a few, but not enough in his mind. He said he's had positive comments from people and owners of businesses, and never had anyone freak out. He was ex military security and I saw him, like me, always scanning the area around us, but very friendly witrh me. I enjoyed our talk and have decided to open carry after that talk we had, as I'm tired of hiding it. We're constitutionaly carry here, and you need no permit to carry concealed or openly.
Good show, sir. Thanks for your input on the subject, sir. I agree with you, and I have watched Colion in the past. He's okay, but a little too giddy for my tastes.
Ive lived in NW Ark going on 5 yrs now. Have been carrying concealed 25+yrs. Each and every LE/Highway patrol ive ever encountered has thanked me for carrying.......from full size 1911s to 357/38 sp snubbies to 22 mag NA.
Hi Plowboy! I watched that one too and I think part of the issue was that the guy had no holster at all, just the grip sticking out of his pocket. He was standing in line with his back to the door and the kid grabbed it and ran. " What do you do when someone takes your gun?" was a question raised. My answer is pull out the backup! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The best way to handle regrets are to prevent them.. hypervigilence.
Absolutely correct Marc. Pistol
Was just sticking out of his pocket.
With no holster being involved at all, that settles it in my mind. Were arguing over an idiot who wasnt open carrying, he was getting lucky. Some sort of holster is required... If what your saying is accurate about it being in a pocket, he was asking for it. To compare this to any sort of a holster carry option, either open or concealed, is a conceded misrepresentation of carrying in any form.
The dude who couldn't afford a holster probably doesn't have a backup...
@@Rumblestrip Even a cheap holster is like $40-60 and if all you could afford is a $200 pistol then that's a lot of money.
I never had to pull my pistol out more than before I could afford a good holster.
There is a reason porcupines dont hide their quills
They don't have a choice in the matter; they were created that way.
@@jamesmitchell6619 That has got to be one of the most ridiculous attempts at an analogy Ive ever read.
It's also a reason why kangaroos have a pouch for protecting it's child.😅
@jamesmitchell6619 😐😐
@@publius9606I guess you could be a possum and play dead
My preference is concealed carry. The reason being I don’t want to be perceived as a threat to a bad guy. The only time I open carry is if I’m in the woods or somewhere like that. Cheers!
@@sherlock1895 I believe in deterrence first, then a clean /reliable draw, if needed. Makes no difference to me whether a violent felon sees me as good or "bad"...so long as he sees me as more difficult than an unarmed person/seemingly unarmed concealed carrier.
Remember...the most survivable attack is the one you're not involved in.
@@plowboysghost I certainly agree with your last comment because prior to my retirement I taught a class on Situational Awareness. Your other comment not so much. Open carry identifies you as a threat. Consequently, a person intent on mayhem will take that person out of the equation before they knew what hit them. That is a fact. However, we all make our own decisions. Cheers!
@@sherlock1895 It seems I have to state, frequently, that probably 98-99% of civilians targeted in violent crime are either genuinely/ obviously unarmed, or seemingly unarmed .
That is more than enough for me to conclude that the fear of being targeted while open carrying is an emotional fear unsupported by data.
I've stated that OC isn't right for everyone or for everywhere .
I don't care how anyone carries, but I take issue with those so consumed by their own fears and prejudice that they think EVERYone should do it the way THEY, those with little to no experience open carrying in plain clothes, feel is best....no matter how many years/decades the other person has in experience with OC.
@@plowboysghost I respectfully question where you found the 98-99% statistic. You may want to speak with your local law enforcement folks about these issues. The more education we all get the better prepared we will be for the unexpected. We are prepared through education, situational awareness, proper training and practice. Cheers!
@@sherlock1895 I don't know of ANY open carrying civilian attacked while open carrying(I'm sure some have been, though)...but I see stories every day of people attacked while seemingly unarmed or genuinely unarmed. They're on the news, every day .
I've personally had close family memberS(plural )murdered...one while unarmed, and one while concealed carrying.
Ive been attacked while unarmed(decades ago)....yet I don't know a soul attacked while open carrying.
Look at the violent assault stats in CA, IL, NY, and every other place that doesn't allow OC and tell me that violent felons don't target people who are either seemingly unarmed or genuinely unarmed more frequently.
Once again, you carry how you want .
I'll carry how I have been for a hell of a long time. Your opinion doesn't outweigh my experience, so you aren't going to change anything here.
I conceal carried for 20+ years, and I've open carried for 12+ years.
I don't need any help figuring out what works for me.
If OC makes you that uncomfortable, don't OC....but understand that someone with enough experience open carrying has moved beyond fear and theory. You can disagree with them, but you have no say in their open carrying any more than they have in your choice of carry mode.
Best of luck to you, sir🍻
Open carry does have its humorous aspects at times.
I was once “helped” by a stranger in line at the bank. He wanted to let me know that I “accidentally” left the hammer back on my 1911.
Thanks pal, you’re a real peach! 🤣👍
LOL...Ive dealt with those folks, myself, when carrying a 1911 in Condition 1.
"CARRY TWO!" SOMETIMES THREE!
I never understood the whole "You should never open carry" crowd. Make yourself a target? Sure, if you are the only person open carrying, but what if EVERYONE was doing it? I know a lot of criminals are dumb, but if I was going to rob a place and I noticed that 10 out of 15 people in the joint had a pistol strapped to their hip I'd probably decide to go elsewhere. And there is a reason certain critters openly display their defense mechanisms. You don't mess with a porcupine because those quills look nasty, and most bigger critters don't think the fight is worth it. You want less crime? Let criminals know that people are carrying the means to defend themselves, and the will to use them.
Exactly. Nobody in ancient times with a sword on their hip was fucked with. Even if they secretly had a dagger it was always someone who didn't appear to have anything that would get robbed etc. In markets
Well snapper, “EVERYONE” is not doing it.
So try to live in reality.
And Roman, how do you know what happened in ancient times?
@@ordinaryman1904 Well Ordinary, you are only about 140 years out from a time in American where everyone HAD to carry a gun with them at all times out of necessity. Travelling the wilderness without a gun for hunting and protection would have been a death wish. And, get this, they would have carried it partially for the same reason we need to now - No one is there to save you. Whether riding a stage coach between settlements or driving between cities, law enforcement is not there to protect you. If you get into trouble its up to you to protect you. The police just come by and clean up the mess later.
@@ordinaryman1904 I know enough
@TheRomanTribune assuming is not knowing
Grasshopper!!
Head on a swivel, always looking. I tell my wife, I’m not paranoid, just aware. She’s doing better herself when out and around.
Great video! Lots of great points!!
Thank you, this is the most respectful, and logical, disagreement I’ve heard in a long time.
That is both kind and generous. Thank you 🍻
Very well said. We need more of this. We don’t have to agree, but we can be civilized. And when both sides have sensible reasons it makes for good conversation.
@@gedocowboy8484 🤠👍
I've been open for over 40yrs and you are right.
Thank you!🍻
As long as it ain't open. Gay it's fine by me
How often have u heard of someone practicing open carry getting shot first by a shooter? Never....
@@user-cr4mt1dr1e I haven't,🍻
Yep. Doesnt happen. People just keep repeating fudd-lore and feelings without any evidence to back them up.
The guy in the video he’s talking about could have easily been shot with his own gun. He even started to try and tackle the guy who snatched it, then thought better and ran!
Security guards and police officers. If you are going to rob a bank with an armed security officer, they will be the first target.
It happens more than you think I'll help you out wait your turn.
I think more criminals are less likely to go after somebody who appears to be a hard target“open carrying“ versus somebody who’s concealed carrying and they can’t tell they have a gun so they might be a softer target
I always open carry on my motorcycle, I truly believe it saved me from a robbery or worse. I had pulled over to put rain gear on at an abandoned gas station in Arkansas (bad choice on my part) and out of nowhere two shady cats in a busted up car came up on me staring me down. I turned toward them and made my Glock 19 visible and the driver pointed at it and said something to the passenger and they drove off. They were planning on rolling me, didn't happen. Carry how you want, no right or wrong way if you are safe and responsible.
I would think a criminal scoping out a victim, would shy away from somebody they know has a gun, ...
@@markbroughton5814 I believe that's the way it works in real life, 8-9 times out of 10.
A real criminal makes a mental note and when you aren't carrying at a bar he helps himself to the stuff in your truck. You can't hardly beat a criminal at the game. Be polite to them and spook them if you have the ability. Of course keep your firearm on you and stay out the bars
I see videos all the time where a dumbass tries to grab a cops gun an it worked.
It's a tool, we are the weapon. Thats a good quote.
Situational awareness is key yes, but if you can't get to that weapon quick enough it doesn't matter how good you are.
Most important self defense weapon is awareness of your surroundings.
I personally would not open carry. I want the element of surprise. You can't watch everyone all the time. People stub their toes in their own house.
But living in the country does change the dynamics of the situation.
8:20 is the point. If you are counting on the "element of surprise", you are in the wrong mindset.
I open carried (OC) for 30 years as a working cop but prefer to keep things hidden in retirement. One of the things I did was keep my forearm over the holstered weapon when people were around me. Security holsters were still somewhat expermintal before my ‘97 retirement.
I agree. I open carry, and I'm always alert in public. I can understand the concern, I guess. Now a days everyone has their face in their phones all the time. It was like a year ago. I was coming out of the mall at night just before closing. There were some "thugs" hanging out in the parking lot. I took note of them right away. Mostly because that's normal for me but also because they were almost trying to be hidden. I also noticed they were watching people coming out of the mall. They obviously left me alone because of the iron on my hip. I came to find out they robbed and nearly killed a young man who came out sometime after I left. I don't see how people can miss the logic in that. Who's going to say "hey let's target that guy. He's carrying a gun on his hip." No, sir. They are going to target people who appear to be defenseless. It shouldn't come as a surprise. Taking guns away from lawful citizens is even more foolish. There are countries that are trying that right now. They would lead you to believe it's working. Don't believe statistics. Statistics is a con man's tool. Try asking them why all of a sudden they are trying to ban any knife with a point. Ask them how effective a knife attached to the end of a stick is and how they know. Ask them why all of a sudden, the criminal element started carrying sticks with knives on the end. It seems like something that would be vary inconvenient to carry around. That's what they are doing now. Ask them if they ban knives how long it will be before they have to go chopping down trees all over the country because criminals are carrying sharp sticks instead. It's like you said, this is a tool. The person carrying it is the weapon, and they will always find a way. If we ban firearms, it will be in favor of the criminal element. They won't have to worry about their victims being able to defend themselves.
@@marktaylor171 Exactly 🎯
I got an expensive pistol. Was told someone would steal it off me.
The thing for me is people walk around with $1,500+ phones open for anyone to take daily.
@@foxbox2879 I've open carried $1500+ revolvers...😁
I find positives and negatives with both ways of carrying. I see more people open carrying now than in the past. I carry concealed for now.
Agreed. There are advantages and drawbacks to both modes.
Where you choose to graze makes the biggest difference..❤🇺🇸
Yep. Open carry in your Walmart, not very dangerous. Open carry in the hood, very dangerous.
The vigilance you mentioned is the most important part of the whole subject whether you open, conceal or dont carry at all everybody should pay attention to everything around them when they can.
Your correct. If concealed carry was the way to go, then why do non uniformed officers (detectives in shirt and tie) open carry, instead of concealed carry. Because when the crap hits the fan, open carry is MUCH faster.
Because it's television, and TV and movies like to display guns. I've never seen a real detective open carrying, unless they're at a crime scene or in the station, and it's too hot to wear a coat. Also, I've NEVER seen a real detective, other than a rookie detective, wearing a shoulder holster! 😊
@@georgegravette1132EXACTLY! Been there, done both.
TV is not reality and no, open carry is NOT appreciably faster IF youre a serious professional and train to proficiency
To be honest it doesn't matter for example if you're fighting to begin with or it could be concealed an the open carrier was distracted or to slow lot's of variables such as age an physical ability here not every situation is the same.You can have it holstered beat my draw an still miss anything is possible.
I open carry everyday here in Tucson. It is more comfortable
I guess some people are ok with a muzzle in fruit basket.
I’m in Tucson as well. I open carry cross draw.
If I carry any other way, my weapon’s checkering tears up my clothes, and my truck’s cloth seats! 🤦🏻♂️
The main problem is nobody has common sense anymore
@@thebigt5463 Yep
@plowboysghost you nailed it. Paying attention is the main thing. Situational awareness is key no matter how or if you carry.
Depends on where I am. I open carry a LOT. There is nothing wrong with it at all.
Those that don’t open carry because they are “worried about what others think or feel” or “because of cops” are honestly out of it. They aren’t on that 2A train like they think they are…
Respect to this here gentleman, I’ve always said if you are carrying, always keep aware of your surroundings, you are the first line of defense for yourself and the innocent folk around you, god bless.
Thank you, very much.
I disagree with open carry. As someone else here stated, I’d rather be the surprise than the target.
Personal opinion/choice and level of training is what matters.
That’s the reason I open carry.
In order to create a diversion for you. 😶👍
@@georgevanaken925 Yup, while you’re getting shot I have a chance to move and draw my concealed weapon. I’m armed 99% of the time I am outside my home and no one ever knows.
As I said, personal preference. I have no problem with those who choose open carry EXCEPT for the clowns who strap on an AR just to go out and cause a confrontation. They know it will happen. That to me is very childish and works against those of us who are adamant about preserving our second amendment rights.
@@DavidWilson-eu1mv I’ll probably never know it’s you, because of the element of surprise.
But, thanks ahead of time!
Keep frosty. 🇺🇸👍
Fortunately in Georgia, we have Constitutional carry, so, we can carry however we want. We don't even need a holster. Just stick your gun in your belt, and or pants and go if that is how you choose to carry. I did get a carry belt last year, and it really makes a difference with holster retention and stability.
I carry both ways, sometimes open and sometimes concealed. Bigger guns I carry openly.
Oklahoma winking back at ya.
We have permitless carry in Texas also. It will give me a great big smile if our country ever gets Constitutional carry though! (or even if any states get it)
@@TeranRealtor
Multiple states have constitutional carry already…South Carolina being one.
@@bigdaddycool4242 South Carolina does not allow adults over 18 to carry firearms everywhere. (THAT would be Constitutional Carry). They probably (like all states that have "permitless carry") allow the same people to carry a firearm, in the same places, with the same infringements - as their permitted carry laws would allow..... just without a permit.
@@TeranRealtor
Law was just passed in March of this year by Governor McMaster for constitutional carry.
“This Act went into effect on March 7, 2024. The act authorizes individuals 18 years of age and older who are not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm, to legally possess a firearm openly or concealed regardless of whether or not they have received training or have a concealed weapons permit.”
I completely agree with you I open carry in church and sit in the front row. People thank me for doing so.
Excellent points made. Both for and against methods of carrying a firearm.
Having been a peace officer for 28 years, I'll tell you this. We were always watching everything arounds us. Both on duty and off. We were trained to observe. To give a detailed description of a suspect from a single glance. We watched the actions of people, constantly analysing suspicious activity. We were required to be armed off duty. And compelled to act upon a felony or assault within our view.
We trained on weapon retention often. Many officers loose their lives being shot by their own weapon.
Now my personal opinion.
Long retired, and in my early 70's, I'm no longer the young and strong 6' 210# bodybuilder and able to fight off an attack. I'm now a 160# diabetic with severe balance issues. Thus I keep a firearm on me at all times. If confronted by an attack by one of more suspects, I will, repeat, will resort to deadly force. I rarely open carry. I don't advertise the fact I'm armed. Decades of training, and three shootings during my career, I can deploy a firearm quickly. And I definitely know how to use it. I'll not be a victim. Period. But I'll not tempt anyone to try for my weapon when visible. Thus, I carry a concealed handgun in an easily deployed position.
I've got my own range out in the woods were I live. I train nearly every other day on drawing from concealed. Once a week, I'll train with live fire on one or more targets. No running and crouching down behind little plywood walls like the "tatical kids" do. I'm not physically able to. Nope, I draw and fire from where I stand. Or from a chair, as if in a car or seated at a restaurant. But the point is, I train.
The fact that some people are killed trying to deploy a weapon from an unattainable holster position, frankly, that's a clear indication of a total lack of training. Period. They figured that they were armed, and thus capable. Wrong. Without proper training and consistent practice with the weapon system they use, they become a liability. Good intentions never won a confrontation let alone a gunfight.
So, in closing I'll say this. If you decide to carry a weapon, be responsible enough to know how to shoot. When to shoot. And train and practice with it continually. Whether you carry open or concealed. And if placed in a situation where the difference in the outcome depends upon your actions, remember this. You are the "first responder" and how well you react will be how well you trained.
Thanks for letting an old soldier and peace officer take a moment or your time.
Thank YOU for taking the time to share your experience and good advice!
thank you for your service
I agree that situational awareness is very important for everyone, whether you carry open or concealed or are unarmed. Keep your head on a swivel at all times .
Agree, criminals are lazy or they'd have jobs. They don't want to face armed individuals, it's easier to find a soft target. I also stand at a counter with my sidearm towards the counter.
I’ve done both. I can remember going into a store for the first time open carrying I felt like I had my ding-a-ling hanging out of my pants! Lol. But over time I became very comfortable with it.
If I could carry concealed all the time I probably would. But the availability of comfortable holsters, a protruding belly, clothing and climate make it impossible to do so.
When I do conceal it is with an OWB holster level 2 retention. I can’t do appendix, or IWB. I’ve tried multiple times with multiple holsters and it simply doesn’t work for me. I have 2 daily carries. A winter and a summer. My winter carry is a Springfield Hellcat Pro with my holster that’s OWB, tight to my hip and concealed 50% of the time until I take my jacket off then it becomes open. But my summer carry is a SW Bodyguard 380 with an integrated Crimson Trace laser. Fits down in my front pocket beautifully and not any heavier than a smartphone. It has a heavy enough trigger pull to where I never have to worry about accidental discharges.
I carry for one reason and one reason only. SELF PRESERVATION. I don’t do third party shootings, I don’t go anywhere with a gun that I would never go to without one. When I follow those 3 basic rules my chances of ever having to use a firearm in self defense drop to almost zero.
A lot less bull shit goes on with open carry
Yep.
Except any hopped up negro. Tweaker or commie with two jui jutsu classes taking it from you and shoving it up ur a$$
You're right, in The South they're called "buggies" not "shopping carts".
Assuming he is not being mirrored/hacked here on YT, he seems to think the 9mm is all the power you need for self-defense or for Law Enforcement. I'm just the opposite, as I'm of the opinion, and have been for several decades, that the only reason to carry a 9mm pistol is because many such pistols carry a LOT of rounds in a single magazine. After just shy of thirty years as an LEO, both in uniform and plain clothes, I'm of the firm opinion that big relatively slow projectiles make more effective man stoppers than ANY 9mm that HAS to expand to be an effective man stopper The .40S&W and up starts out big and stays that way even if it does not expand dramatically like a 9mm HAS too! By the way, he disagrees with me on every point I've made above. Excellent video as usual! Keep 'em comin'!!!
Thank you!🍻
I mean.. he's black. Let's just get that understanding out there lol
@@TheRomanTribunethat means nothing
@@Thekulprit92 actually! It means a lot lol
Starts out big? It’s nominally 1mm bigger. That’s .045” for you machinists, and 3/64” for carpenters.
I have plenty of pistols in 10mm, .41s, .44s and larger (even .510”) etc but let’s not kid ourselves that in the case of a bullet failure that a wound channel that’s .045” wider will make any difference. It’s probably going to be hole all the way through and where that hole ended up is far more important than a slight difference in diameter.
I have carried open and concealed depending on where I'm going and I'm always just as vigilant regardless because when you carry you are accepting the burden and responsibility that comes along with being armed.
I generally dislike the attention that I feel open carry draws. But then, sometimes I just want to carry my 7.5 inch blackhawk so...open it is. 🤷♂️
Understand that!
My advice....dont make a big deal out of it. 20+ years carrying, it usually isnt til you make it one
@@Rumblestrip Don't make a big deal out of what? Open carry? Where I live it's a very gun friendly culture (until you're within a few miles of the college). But not that many people open carry for some reason. Except for in the mountains. Then every other person is openly packing.
@@alexw2794 Open carry isn't "prevalent" here in NW Bama, but it's not uncommon, either. In my area, it's no big deal anywhere I go.
@@plowboysghost kind of the same here. Unless, like i said, you get too close to the college. Then the blue haired people's safe space is threatened. Lol. I'm honestly surprised more people don't open carry.
I agree with your reasoning. I also majority open carry (a single action as well) for about 8 or so years now. Never had an issue, never had my gun stolen from the holster (which is hard to do from behind) . Now I agree that some places it would be wise to conceal (very crowded areas, gun free zones, etc), but to write off OC as bad everywhere is wrong. I have a pet peeve with the gun community, we'll take one fantasy idea and run with it as gospel.
I'm in the opinion of who cares how you or Joe Blow carries THEIR gun, just carry the darn gun.
Exactly.
I'm for carrying however each individual feels most secure and capable.
Well said, to both of you. One size doesn’t fit all. We are all at different stages of life and reside in different parts of this great nation. Carry on and stay prepared.
I'm currently living in Commifornia where open carry is unconstitutionally illegal. That being said, I've become extremely good at identifying people who are concealed carrying. 😅
@@jeffbroders9781 🤠🍻
Only if theyre not doing it right
I don't want bad guys to see my weapons I want them to feel them.
Great talk! 👍 Agree with you 💯
Thank you.
THANK YOU! I thoroughly agree with you and the way you stay vigilant. You can’t get complacent, ESPECIALLY while carrying open. Even though I carry concealed here in Florida, at the grocery store, I ALWAYS grab a buggy/cart, whether I’m getting a lot or one item. I told my wife that it’s harder to get to me/us when a buggy’s in the way. By then, I have already drawn, depending upon the situation. Like they say, Complacency Kills.
And YES; the way you carry yourself is crucial to whether or not you become a victim or not. 😊
Thank you!
Last time I checked, this is still a free country! I wish more folks would open carry! Just my 2 cents into the pot! Stay vigilant Plowboy.
However they feel most comfortable is a-okay with me.
Thanks!
It aint free. Taxes exist. 😉
Knowing your surroundings is key if you want to open carry
I see both sides . And open carrying helps break the stigma people have about carrying cause we know there are people just terrified to see one and it is also like exercising a muscle if you don’t ever use it it will it will go away and that would not be a good thing. And I seen the video your talking about and the dude was oblivious to what was going on and like you said if you carry keep your head on a swivel. Good thing is I think the guy that got it took didn’t get the wrong end of it and he learned a valuable lesson that day if you are carrying pay attention to your surroundings.
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AMEN! I wholeheartedly agree, and I also believe there is no telling how many crimed and or violence is deterred just because someone is open carrying and a gun is seen ! Keep up the kids 👌
No problem with open carry. However, there is a significantly higher risk that someone can grab/steel your gun if they see the gun and it is easy to grab. To each their own. My normal carry method is OWB. However I keep the gun covered with an untucked/long shirt or jacket. I like/prefer OWB because it is the fastest to deploy
If it really is a significantly higher risk, then it would seem that incidents of that nature would be far more numerous.
Same. Mine is IWB with the grip exposed and the barrel on the inside. I wear a jacket, vest, or flannel shirt so that I can still remain discreet but have a quick access to my gun.
This man sounds like a warrior poet to me. If you know, you know.
@@curtisellis8509 Very kind and I overly generous...but thank you.
Aye, generally speaking, the only times I will conceal carry a firearm is when I’m either at a private venue or event where I know people are likely to be more skiddish or unwelcoming of me if I’m visibly armed (weddings and such), or if I am passing through a non 2nd amendment friendly city or state.
Every other time I will carry as I always do, openly.
A wise policy.
Hence my reply regarding hassle and certain situations and environments. I have actually had 5.0 called on me twice, while open carrying. nothing was illegal about it and nothing came of it, other than the hassle of it all. Cops said they got a call of a guy with a gun and had to investigate. I dont particularly appreciate getting the third degree and having my Privacy invaded on a whim, because somebody felt "Unsafe" while i was exercising my constitutional 2nd amendment right.
@@TightwadTodd Must be an area a lot less 2A friendly than mine.
@@plowboysghost It didnt used to be but, we are being Californicated.
@@TightwadTodd aye, some places be turning that way. But since I have been carrying a firearm this past decade plus, I have learned to keep my temper in check, and on more than one occasion swallowed my pride in order to deal with potential confrontations.
When carrying openly, I’ve had many folk come up and ask me questions; most are friendly like, curious about firearm choice or my reasons for carrying. Others have been downright insulting and vulgar, offended at the sight of my firearm.
Luckily however, I’ve never had the police called on me when in public. As I say, I dress sharply, and carry myself smartly, avoiding the look of ‘Billy Joe out for beer” or a hoodlum. Crossed paths with many law enforcement on their patrols, never once getting a concerned look, even with a full size Sig or a revolver on my belt.
I wonder how many people in the comments remember this, “One sword keeps another in the sheath” even though it came from a a fictional series it makes sense the threat of potential reciprocal violence keeping others at bay
It’s one drawn sword keeps another in its scabbard
A cross draw holster is a safer open carry in crowds.
I agree.
@@plowboysghost appendix
It's complicated and depends on the situation, which is unpredictable. I think open carry would deter 90% of perps. The worst 1% will shoot you in the back first. How the math works out for what is best who knows? I respect your opinion and I've considered open carrying a 6 gun but I think I'd only do it with a backup weapon available to the off hand.
I don't know where people get this ridiculous idea that open carrying makes one a target, but it doesn't make any sense, and it needs to stop.
Criminals are predators. And predators don't attack the buffalo with the biggest horns. The predatory mindset is all about risk vs reward. Open carrying means you can provide armed resistance. That is a lot of risk to assume, and for what reward?
Picking a fight with an armed defender is lose-lose. Even if you "win" the gunfight, you now have a capital murder charge with no statute of limitations hanging over you. There's no real winning outcome, no incentive to take on that much risk. And there's plenty of fish in the sea. Why target the guy that can shoot you when there's so many potential victims that can't? For a four year old iPhone with a cracked screen? A debt card that is going to be canceled in a matter of hours? For a $600 Glock? There's 400 million guns in this country, but you have to have that one? It doesn't make any sense. Stop. Just stop.
We have an entire field of study dedicated to the criminal mindset and everything criminology tells us is that there is no bigger deterrent to violence than an armed victim. Open carrying deters violence not only against the carrier but also against everyone in their immediate vicinity. Nothing scares a predator more than armed resistance from an intended victim. That is why lions leave the buffalo with the biggest horns alone.
@@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 AMEN 🎯
🇺🇲💯🇺🇲💯🇺🇲💯🇺🇲!!!!!!
It makes you a target because as good as people think they are, they are not "head on a swivel" all the time and a dedicated gun criminal may very well NOT decide to leave you alone when he act. If he is in your blind spot or gets the jump on you, you are got! Look at the Dallas PD officer that was murdered sitting in his cruiser. Open carry in PD uniform didn't stop his killer.
@@alanshaddix2109 Cops are targeted more often than OC civilians.
From someone who has open carried for 11+ years, I thank you for your concern...but I'm good.🍻
@alanshaddix2109 I have Level II retention on my holster, and I carry a fixed bladed knife as well. If you're feeling froggy, I'm your huckleberry.
Think about it like this. There is plenty of cops that are open carrying, what’s the difference between a cop open carrying and a civilian open carrying? You don’t hear much about people snatching a cops gun, and yes I know they usually have level 2 holsters but all the same. I personally carry concealed because of where I live, I don’t see people open carrying so I don’t want to stand out.
You know what helps deter ? looking homeless swear driving a crappy looking raggedy keeps ppl away
@@aliceakosota797 😁👍
Good stuff plowboy, I open carry alot myself and have picked up certain habits when out myself. Some being how I position myself in places, whether standin or sittin down, not to draw more attention then neccessary. Also with wheel guns have gotten to the point I almost always carry cross draw or reverse carry. Reverse carry more times then anything and have practiced the draw extensively. But when I have people in close proximity I've too picked up the habbit of resting my hand or wrist on the backstrap of the firearm and whatnot. Like you said comes down to mindset, vigilance, and knowing what's goin on around you more then the amount of ammo you got in the gun. You ain't goin to war, but you should be good with whatever tool you decide to carry and how you plan to carry it. God bless ya bud from ole Carolina.
I prefer to carry a single action in crossdraw, as an only or a second gun.
It'll be a lot harder to ever get the crossdraw gun away from me.
@@plowboysghost very true. Reverse carry seems to be the same way in my opinion, I carry single actions reversed and canted forward. Works well if you practice some.
@@plowboysghost Exactly!!!
Amen, i do the same thing with my cap and ball army revolvers. Handy arm rest, secure, and nobody is getting it from me with out being 6 foot under.
@@Rumblestrip amen to that brotha, been known to carry them myself. Have a few 51 navy's and a 44 model 60 army. Fine weapons indeed. God bless brotha from ole Carolina.
I prefer concealed carry. The main reason is there's too many people that freak out if they see a firearm. I don't want the trouble. Now I live in a non-open carry state, moot point.
Carry however you want but, always carry.
Colion Noir does more damage to the 2A movement than he will ever help.. He's become pretty insufferable actually.. He is constantly presenting information that has no facts or statistics backing them up.. He also often presents circumstantial evidence as facts..
I have nothing against him...but I have no use for lawyers.
I’m in California with a CCW. I would open carry with my swivel drop leg if it was legal. the ultimate comfort. Yes, it does make you a target. Yes, there’s a chance of somebody taking your gun. The benefit of concealed carry is the element of surprise.
OC requires one to consider and prepare for weapon retention.
I have updated/upgraded my (in town) carry position and retention safeguards in the year+ since I made this video.
A few decades ago when I was in my 20's I was a subcontractor and doing work in a consumer foods grocery store. I was having a conversation about guns and everything related with security and he told me about two guards from his company that were overseeing something in Atlanta and they were bragging about their shooting skills and speed of draw...before the nights end a couple guy's came in there and shot both of them dead because they were security they were targeted. The criminal's then carried out their intended robbery. I've never carried openly for self defense...only for hunting etc. . I don't want anyone around me to know that I'm armed. There are other instances out there similar to that story and I saw a video not long ago where an armed citizen was killed by an accomplice of an armed criminal he was following and had no idea the guy was following behind him.
Yep and if a person has the drop on you it doesn’t matter if you are open carry or concealed. When you reach for the weapon your the target
@@bobyjones3905 Why would you let them see you reach for the weapon unless you were already targeted? and why would you be targeted when the armed guards were the target and you're either a customer or a subcontractor etc.? there's many examples, but perhaps you remember the 80 some odd year old gentleman in the barber shop that got robbed by two punks with semi autos? Old guy had a concealed derringer and put one in both their heads. He wasn't deemed a threat so he wasn't being watched or held at gunpoint. That's my reasoning for carrying concealed and never letting anyone know I'm armed. I certainly don't go around telling people they should or shouldn't open carry or conceal carry etc., but I do chime in on why I choose to conceal.
@@hercules1073 you don’t let them see you but sometimes you can’t avoid it. So in that case it doesn’t matter if you are open carry or concealed
@@bobyjones3905 In those examples the only thing that can help is training, speed, accuracy. People that I knew personally that were shot all lived long enough to return fire except one and he was shot in the face with a 12 ga. oo buck load. So even if we do get the drop and plant one in the chest it doesn't mean we'll survive. BTW several months back there was a news video (it's on youtube) where a guy went in a convenience store open carrying and a thug punk in line behind him grabbed his gun from the holster and ran out of the store. I'd think it's a good idea to buy a good security holster as well if you open carry. I also had a friend that was working security for a grocery chain and a customer snatched his DA 357 mag from the holster and shot my friend and a utility clerk! I personally just have seen too many things involving open carry that makes me uncomfortable announcing that I'm armed. To be fair I knew another guy that had his gun taken off him during a robbery and he was conceal carrying, but targeted due to being an employee and another guy who was hit over the head in the park and rendered unconscious and left his gun home, but said it wouldn't have helped in that scenario and would have been taken if he had it as he never saw them coming.
They both have their place, if you open carry and have good situational awareness then it shouldn’t be an issue at all, if it is then you aren’t doing it right. You should be able to spot a threat before the threat spots you if you know what you are doing and most people don’t have the knowledge or training to do so. Those people should stay with concealed carry and call it a day, either way you are armed.
Exactly.
Respect your decision and your situational awareness while open carrying, but I won’t carry open for two main reasons; 1.) Colion is right, where criminals are more violent and more brazen, if they rush into a place to rob it and see your gun, you’re a threat to them. They may run away, but they may also make you their first target cause you’re standing between them and their loot. There’s a lot of places in this country where criminals aren’t afraid to murder. 2.) Maybe in the woods or farming communities, people are fully comfortable with seeing people carrying, but not everyone feels that way in all areas of the country. There’s no sense in scaring people in areas where it’s not as common.
I respect your comparison of open vs concealed draw, but training is the most important key here. I have an open and concealed holster for my pistol, and I can draw both just as quick. Practice, practice, practice.
But at the end of the day, we both stand for the same belief; the 2nd. Happy shooting brotha
@@brandonwaddell2583 Thanks for watching and sharing 🍻
Exactly. Open carry is fine in churches and Walmart. You're not going to run into any bad people there in all likelihood. But, you don't want to be open carrying at a convince store in Jackson, MS, Chicago, IL or Baltimore, MD in the bad part of town. There are people there who shoot cops who are open carrying. They are not scared of guns. Most of them have been shot at, if not shot, already.
Do you live in the country or city ? I live in central Texas and stand in line everywhere . And I often have one or more grandkids with me. I choose to be the secret in the room . If someone is robbing a store, they'll probably ignore me . They will probably just shoot the open carry guy and maybe hit the little girl standing next to him. Your opinion is yours and mine mine, but when I was 30, I thought like you
@@denniscraig6022 ..and when I was younger, before open carrying for over a decade and learning through experience, I was thinking more like you .
Just found your channel and subbed.
You make a good point.
I typically open carry a blued Vaquero with ivory grips when I am around town close to my ranch. If I have to go into the big city (and I avoid that hell hole as much as possible), I typically conceal carry a more modern sidearm.
Situational awareness is key either way.
Thank you!
I got a blued Vaquero as well partner!! Cheers! 👍
Having a good awareness of your surroundings is something everyone should be doing whether or not they carry. I prefer to be a grey man, but I wouldn't mind living in a world where open carry was more widely accepted.
You're the the first guy I heard say condition yellow in a long time.
I live it, daily....even at home.
One is just as dangerous open carrying as they are concealed carrying. The difference between the two is open cary has the element of surprise. Open carrying typically draws unwanted or additional attention to ones self.
I think the best way to open carry is to either go with a cowboy look or a clean off-duty officer look. This is so that anyone who might be concerned seeing your gun will instantly know you're put together well enough to not be a criminal.
@@mitchellhowell9380 There is a certain importance to how one presents themselves.
Yes how you present yourself open carrying can have drastic differences in how people will perceive you and if they will see you as a hazard or as an asset.
However the same goes with concealed, most people can figure out that the guy with 5 different manufacturer stickers and a big ol gadsten flag on the back windshield probably has a firearm and to a criminal that'll tell them if theres nobody in the vehicle theres probably a couple free guns just behind a piece of glass right there.
Open-carrying with "clean off-duty officer look" can get you killed. A better look would be the "just got back from deployment and haven't lost my edge yet."
@@georgegravette1132 You have a point. It probably depends on where you are. I certainly wouldn't go for that look in a high crime area.
Speaking for myself, I prefer Concealed Carry. You would be surprised how many people out there are “Bold” enough to snatch your gun from you, if you open carried it. I can only image the stress that puts on Law Enforcement, who always open carry their side arms. The only times that I would find it acceptable to open carry my gun is if I was in my home and/or property or if I was backpacking, hunting or camping in the outdoors. And by the way , “Bodega” is Spanish for “Corner Store.”
@@reesex3882 thanks for watching 🍻
I liked what you had to say and I can see the points you made. My concern with open carry is: 1. Unless you're military or law enforcement, People who carry are not taught weapon retention (i.e. What to do if someone is trying to take your gun). Saying "Keep Control Of Your Firearm" is not enough. Just like drawing a firearm, means of keeping someone from taking the gun (Concealed or Open carrying) needs to be taught. 2. If open carrying, someone can call the police and falsely accuse you of drawing your gun and pointing it at them or someone might freak out and start yelling "He's Got A Gun!! He's Got A Gun!". And that will open a big can of worms. Unless I am at a shooting event, I'd rather no one know I have a gun till I draw it and use it. That's just me. Take Care and God Bless, Mr. Plowboy! And Hello To Mrs. Plowboy! You better catch up to her making those laps or she will start out running you! LOL
1. OC or just carry in general, isn't for everyone. Especially those uncomfortable with it. 2. That could happen but it hasn't to me in 9+ years.
Ive actually had option 2 happen to me twice... Both times i was in a store, both times there were tons of cameras and witnesses, and 1 of the 2 got cited for making a false statement at the scene. Both times i wasnt spoken to until I'd made my way to my pick-up... The one that got cited is the only one i spoken to... I had a pair of 1851 Navy Colts and the officer was admiring them and wanted to pet them for a few and asked for pointers and advice with black powder arms.
@@Rumblestrip My corner of Alabama is much more open carry friendly.
I would never open-carry; I don't want to draw attention to myself, or risk upsetting someone and having the cops sicced on me.
Situational awareness is always a good idea.
@@gregb6469 Not a problem in Alabama.
Nope, I'm the quiet silent type. Nuff Said
@@chrispickett3092 So are many open carriers.
@@plowboysghost we a difference of opinion on what that means.
It depends on the situation. In the city, I like concealed for the element of surprise. In the back country, I like open carry to deter lone weirdos on the trail from a distance.
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Agreed. Colin Noir has been and always will be an NRA Fudd
I don't watch enough of his videos to get a "great" handle on him, but I have enjoyed a few of his.
@@plowboysghost he makes good content, but thats what it is. You'll never catch me knockin anybody that carries, open or concealed, i go back and forth on occasion, but i primarily carry open. Got a couple shoulder rigs for it due to the fact i drive for a living. Hip holster just isnt conducive to sitting. Lol like you, ive hear arguments for and again both. I say carry how your comfortable, practice your draw, and keep your head on the swivel. The infighting was the point in these arguments, and they serve little to no purpose but to distract.
I know we dont converse much Hoss, but usually we are in some sort of agreement
@@Rumblestrip Agreed. Thank you 👍
@@Rumblestrip I enjoy Plowboys content more . I have taken to shoulder carry as well. in my lighter youth, i carried crossdraw as it was the most safe and efficient to horseback work. nowdays im not as young or light and shoulder works better for me.. LOL
Unsubscribe from coleon when he defended his guilty brother!
I personally think the pros and cons of open carry and concealed carry depend mostly on where you live. Personally I've seen a handful of people open carrying in my community and never once did I feel in danger or anything. I don't mess with other people. I stay in my own lane and I treat everyone with the utmost respect. But I also know for the few people I saw open carrying, there were probably 5 or 10 more who were carrying concealed. Luckily I live in a state where both options are viable and not all that hard to do lawfully. I could carry a colt 1851 navy caplock pistol in an open carry holster and probably be safe from people prying into my business. (I love black powder pistols)
Great Video Plowboy. Open Carry mostly myself! 👍
Thank you.
You nailed it ..... be aware of your surroundings at all times..... which ever your carry preference is.... train and carry, be safe
I'm hyper vigilant even when I'm not carrying a sidearm.
When you’re not carrying? That’s the worst choice for sure. Always carry. ALWAYS.
“And some….feller…” great catch Yogi, I still heard it😂😂
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Everything u say is true👍
Tell my wife that 😁 .
Thanks!
I agree with you both as long as your being safe with an know how to use it in a situation,it's personal preference on how you carry,I also prefer not to draw attention to myself open carry,but I have been thinking of getting me a revolver .40 or ,357,since I'll be riding my bike soon here,I plan on riding with my side arm on my side,I love living in Tennessee where you can open carry or cancel carry.
I open carry every single day. I don't care how anyone else carries just don't be stupid
Totally agree with you. The problem is that people are too lazy and to focused on their phones to be hyper aware or even semi aware of their surroundings. I carry a full size 1911 45acp and sometimes I open carry sometimes I conceal carry. Stay safe, stay aware and stay alive.
Yep. there are a lot of people walking around asleep, out there.
I carry concealed, I just feel safer , but I have open carried in the winter here in Pennsylvania only because my shirt covered it !