The SwitchBot Lock Pro Is Great But..
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2024
- SwitchBot Lock Pro is the newest Smart Lock on the block, boasting a number of improvements over the original SwitchBot lock, however it still has one issue. Let's go over all of the new features compared to the original, look at integrations with Home Assistant and HomeKit, then talk about the SwitchBot Lock Pro's issues with Matter.
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At 3 minutes and already loving ALL the knob jokes 👌
And kept a straight face the whole time! 😅
Nearly lost it on "sticky knob" though!
Paul Hibbert calling CZcams: “He’s doing it again!”
the number of shafts and knobs in this video. love it
All the knobs
Is the keypad supported in Home Assistant? It would be really nice if you could trigger automations if you enter a certain code when entering the house.
Love how some people are worried about their smart lock getting hacked but they have a shitty mechanical lock that can be raked open in seconds.
Integration with home assistant needs some work, shame that the hub is required for matter functionality. Also no offline matter is crazy, hope its just a bug
Hope they will fix that ASAP
I've had one of these locks for about 3 weeks now. One useful hack for multipoint locks is to add a magnet to one of the multipoint latches and then place a window sensor (may need to remove the housing) in such a way, that when you lift the handle, the reed switch is "on". This allows you to create an automation to lock the door whenever the handle is lifted (I use HA). Works really well.
I've seen that before and really wanted to do it but unfortunately no space on my particular door. Jealous as it's a neat trick!
Just a word of warning to check the Ts&Cs on your home insurance policy when fitting a smart lock. Some companies (eg Aviva in the UK) want to be notified when any changes are made to the door locking mechanism.
I've had mine for a couple of weeks now, got mine installed, and loving it!
The best informatieve video so far! Great job - love your channel! Only thing I missed is if you need the new hub for matter integration for home assistant or will the original switchbot hub do?
Thanks! I think if I remember correctly you need the Hub 2 or Hub mini
Do you have any recommendations for door locks in 2024 working with HASS?
Very solid review, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Great video.
I think I'm going to wait until Bluetooth is supported by HA.
Do you know if use of the keypad requires the hub? Or if it pairs directly to the lock itself?
Have 3 of the original locks integrated via bluetooth proxies. Have been working extremely reliably (and responsive once I installed a proxy with antenna close by) for more than a year. Only feature missing is the the emergency unlock feature, which is only available via the switchbot app. The main benefit og the lock pro in my opinion is the design and AA batteries. Not enough for me to upgrade, at least not until it gets Home Assistant bluetooth support.
So much innuendo hehe ;) I ordered this with keypad and hub £189, waiting for it to arrive
Great review. I have one big issue with this smart lock, and that is the huge button which you said is neat to have when carrying stuff. This is sold as a Pro lock but does not offer Geofencing to disable the button when not at home, as otherwise when someone approaches the door, excited pets jumping up can open the door by jumping against the button. Also on your door it will be easy to open from outside using a hook shaped rod through the letter box. People will only know this is an option if using the keypad as this identifies its a Switchbot lock from the outside.
As Geofencing is not offered it would be great to be able to at least disable this button on a routine when at work for example to ensure it does not get opened when no one is at home. Looking forward to seeing the Aqara lock which is due to release soon.
It's a good point about there being no geofencing, at least within the switchbot app. You can however completely disable the button which mitigated your concern there, just means you can't use it in a situation where your carrying things
Great vid as always - do you have a link to the rechargeable battery? Your vid showed it on the website but i cant see it when i look.
I think it's only just became available on the US site so might take a few days to appear on the UK site, as soon as I can I'll get it added! But my contact at Switchbot confirmed the UK price so shouldn't be long
I tried a Nuki ultion lock a few months ago. Had to return it. I think the torque wasnt enough to turn the lock. I hope this one has the extra torque. However, it doesnt list ultion as a compatible lock type. I’ve contacted switchbot to see if it’ll work
Great video and product review, would like an update when HA BLE is working. Out of interest what BLE reliability issues did you see with the previous model with HA?
Same here, seen lots of people mention this lock but I'm holding off until home assistant is available especially after hearing what little info you get via matter
A couple of times it would take multiple presses to work but the worst thing was the very slow response time on occasion. Mostly it was like 3-4s but occasionally you'd get a 10-15s one making you think it hadn't worked and pressing it again causing a double trigger
@@EverythingSmartHomeI found that setting up a little Atom Echo about 3m away as a BT proxy fixed those issues right up (my HA is upstairs so while the BT would reach it, I used to often see those 10 second plus delays)
I have the previous one, it works but... Jams every now and then - requiring to be re-calibrated, gets "unavailable" on bluetooth and matter under HA (a bit less under matter but still) so during that state you cannot control it. I hope the Pro version has those problems solved. Seems to be a good product with under-developed software.
It's OK. Everyone thinks their knob is weird. ;-) Bravo, sir. Bravo!
😂😂
I thought" every body is different,it's not weird,don't be so hard on yourself bro" lol
What is the IP rating of them ?.. I have a garage door that I wish to lock.. BUT at an open state the inside may get open in the Rain for some houres..
Thank you.
Thanks Ron!
Hi, if by chance the keyboard doesn't work, don't open it via the app again.
What is the contingency plan?
normally the cylinder does not open when both keys are plugged in (internal and external);
Do you know how this compares to the Aqara U100 or U50?
My issue with Switchbot is and always has been communication. They work when they want to, they connect when they want to and they respond to commands when they want to.
I should make a video comparing my office window which has an Aqara blind and Switchbot curtain 3. The difference in response time and reliability is night and day.
Is there proximity auto-unlocking where it can recognize your Bluetooth device and automatically unlock as you approach the door?
Does it work through 4G gsm network? for adding a new code for the keypad for example?
In Spain we have tripple bolted security doors with no handle. The door can only be opened with a rather large key which needs 6 full rotations to lock or unlock, plus another quarter turn to actually physically open (click out from) the door frame.
Another thing is that if the key is left in the keyhole on one side, it blocks another key from being used from the other side.
Thus not only should the Switchbot rotate the knob/key up to 6 times, but it should also have a straight line movement to pull the key half way out of the keyhole when not in use, and wise versa.
Does a lock device exist that can do all this?
I was considering this lock for a secondary door of mine (already have an August 4th gen with the Keypad working with the Yale BLE integration in HA on the front door), but hearing that it requires the hub is a deal-breaker. The rest of my switchbot kit works just fine using the Switchbot BLE integration and a few ESP32s being Bluetooth Proxies. I will likely just end up buying another August. :/
thanks honest review
Thanks for watching!
Aqara's M3 hub seems to have the same issue. Disconnect the internet and all the devices that are on the M3 seems to be unreachable. Anyway, this looks like it doesn't work with my lock. :(
Do you think it would be possible to make it work with the fingerprint sensor on a UVC-G4 Doorbell Pro, when Matter is made available?
Hmm I wouldn't bank on that working unfortunately due to matter limitations
Looks like some great design ideas.
Entirely unfit for purpose with the hub requirement...that doesn't actually deliver required features.
Wen smart door lock cable or solar powered?
Could you review Nuki please?
Can i open it with a key normally when coming home?
Kan i make an automation to auto open when i come home in case im carrying groceries and dont want to pick up keys.
Can i make temporary keys or anything if my parents need to enter and im on vacation?
So many questions unanswered 😁
I have the original and with that model the answer to all of those questions is yes
I bought the switchbot lock pro. It works very well, but the magnetic door position pod does not really work for any locks more than a couple of inches from the door frame.
Yeah it's tricky to get the right position! Personally I use a different ZigBee sensors with Home Assistant for the auto lock
🤣🤣🤣... knob... Funniest video I've seen on YT this week! 👌🏻
High praise indeed 😂 thanks!
“My knob is kind of wierd”… 😂
I'm here for the pun-zooms.
😂🙏🏻
Besides the magnet not working reliably this lock has a ton of issues not mentioned here!
1. It only registers opened/closed state ar the outmost point of calibration. Thats utter rubbish if you use the knob or key or have night switch which can be also opened via handle. So basically if i ever use it manually it doesn't notice. This knob is so slow i only use it manually, but then usually i just turn it until its open and use handle for the night switch as its fastest that way. Door doesn't notice. Also as the door never knows its correct state the auto lock/relock isn't working.. so you end up turning manually to close the lock and as it doesn't notice it shows open until it cranks up torque to relock from locked.
2. As soon as there is the slightest distraction like hub offline the auto lock/relock just doesn't happen.
3. The software integration with home assistant is a joke if used with night switch at least right now. And as long as 1. Isn't fixed nothing good can come out of it.
Back in the box and getting a Nuki. This piece of shit simply isn't worth it. The hardware except the magnet thing is really good but the software is utter rubbish and why use a smart lock without geofencing?
Buy cheap buy twice clearly the case if your door has night switch.
For the size and price it needs matter sans hub and the whizzy batteries in the box.
It even handles a sticky knob, nice. lol
I'd like to have multi-protocol support, especially in a large device like this, ideally with a dip switch to select BT/WiFi/Zigbee. In a $100+ device the additional cost would be minimal. Imagine local MQTT control (using a security key token) and status alerts. I certainly don't want another hub, or even BT. Come on SwitchBot, give the 250,000+ Home Assistant users what they want!
It is a battery powered device, so really only Zigbee and BT are viable. Honestly, with ESPHome Bluetooth Proxies working as well as it is, why do you not want Bluetooth?
So they've basically created a NUKI 2, about 5 years later...
Interesting looking product. I do like that it was designed to run on standard, easy to find batteries and the idea of swapping out batteries for charging with no down time is cool. I wonder if it would work for rechargable AAs?
But did I really just watch a guy playing with his knob on the internet for 15 minutes?! :D
Oh also, who is Roberto and what is he doing on your landing ;)
Roberto is uhhh...my little helper 👀
@@EverythingSmartHome I figured it was probably a robovac?
Anyway it must have been one hell of a party at your place... Roberto upstairs munching carpet on the landing while Keira was twisting your shaft in the hallway :D
They've completely stuffed the design, to be generic. Who wants a big shoebox on the swinging edge of their door? It's bot super-premium.
For latches like yours it could have easily been a much lower profile. Sprocket on your shaft, worm drive to the side, tiny motor to drive it and another to drive cluch engagement. Hall effect sensor to keep state of the sprocket (which can be directly driven by hand or key). 18650 or 1S LiPo. LEDs for status. Small Esp board to drive. Saw something similar on here a while back.
Does numberpad work local?
Yes it's Bluetooth also
@@EverythingSmartHome Is there any way for it to be used with homeassistant?
What about the new Aqara U50?
Don't think it's coming to the UK...again 🥲
@@EverythingSmartHome Mmm not fun. Nuki is more common in Belgium 🇧🇪
I have the original and the biggest gripe is the battery life. When you get home and it tells you it does not have enough power to work. Not great. No warning.
I'm hoping that won't be an issue here due to the batteries being able to power lock individually (if you opt for the dual power supply)
I think SwitchBot's main issue is Bluetooth and lack of integration... The devices I have of theirs do not work well with Home Assistant or Alexa, and I will not buy more until they sort this
I was hoping for more knob jokes, like in the original version. Or at least some bloopers at the end. Not enough jokes!😂
More subtle this time 😂
"Just another hub" makes this is a no from me. Shame. I wonder though could you you use a esp32 with esphome to create a Bluetooth connection? Or maybe it can only be paired with the hub?
Yes you can that's what I meant by it needs to get Bluetooth support in HA, then you don't need the hub for Matter
I really wish that switchbot wasn't so in love with Bluetooth. I would much rather have it use zigbee or WiFi.
My insurance says nope to that type of locks.
I've not had any insurance ask that sort of question, normally they ask is it multi point and is it key or knob on the inside
Its remains too big and bulky. There needs to be a narrow version for thin aluminium door frames.
No one likes having a sticky knob. 🤣
I've experienced it myself once, wouldn't wish it upon anyone 🥲😂
And the shaft 😂😂😂
I’m not sure I’d be comfortable with removing my knob, just to have a smart lock.
😂
My biggest issue is the fact that it's not rechargeable itself. Only the batteries :/
In my opinion that would be a downgrade as you'd have to run a cable to the lock itself, and you wouldn't be able to keep using it while recharging (as the whole unit would die), where just now you can keep using the lock on one battery while recharging one in a more convenient location
@EverythingSmartHome let me introduce you to smart plugs.
Bought Shelly TRVs specifically for that reason. Got a smart plug and a cable running to it, delivering power whenever it needs it.
For me, it's not a downgrade but an upgrade. I'd run a cable to the door and have it constantly plugged into a wall. With BT, I can monitor the charge and can keep it at a comfortable 40%-80% once and for all. Cable can be fitted nicely on the door itself with little to no obstructions.
With a tiny design difference, the engineers could've integrated USB-C charging into the battery pack and the unit as well (plugging the batteries into a male USB-C port hidden inside the unit, for example).
I just don't like the idea of yet another battery-powered device that needs changing during the most inconvenient times. I'd rather just set it up and forget it with the minor inconvenience of running a cable once instead of having to change batteries or charge them all the time. :/
I am category against smart locks with two exception.
1) They are mechanically designed to only lock NOT to unlock.
2) I retain the ability to lock or unlock without interacting with the smart mechanism something very close to it.
I am fine with smart lock locking my door if I forgot too but NEVER unlocking it or interfering with me unlocking form inside in and instant.
How does anyone talk about a lock without talking about the security of it? Often the security of these smart locks are abysmal. Please consider this in your threat model prior to buying this.
So, you didn't watch the video then?
@@EverythingSmartHome Whilst you did mention security may be a concern, I can see why soneone would consider the video to not talk about security by lack of disvussion on security protocols.
Sadly this is one product that won't work for EU locks, since they have a different design than the average deadbolt one in the USA
How many times did you descend into childish giggling recording that?... I'm not sure I could have managed it 😁
Definitely a few giggles were had 😂
How many times did you have to refilm parts to cut out all the giggles? I cracked up at your weird knob.
The knob 😂😂😂
😂
I know this isn’t Paul Hibberts channel but no shaft and knob jokes in disappointed
A thief will just break the windows or pry open the door with pry bar
A thief that have enough knowledge to hack your lock would probaply hack something more lucrative then hacking random normal people homes lol
I agree!
It’s way to large compared to competitor products
Couldn't they have made it a little bigger?
LOL that looks pure shit!
Terrible. its huge and loud. And it still, in 2024!, needs gate to work with homekit.
looks horrible! if cost more than 2$ it's overpriced!
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