Batman’s Most Detestable Foe: Roland Daggett | Batman the Animated Series (Reupload)
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- NOTE: This video was originally copyright claimed by Warner Brothers, so I've made the necessary visual edits and reuploaded.
Image of David Zaslav courtesy of Bloomberg | Getty Images
In this video I state my case for why I think that Roland Daggett is Batman’s most detestable foe. Batman the Animated Series held many of the wealthy citizens of Gotham in contempt, but Roland Daggett is the most worthy of their scorn.
#batman #batmantheanimatedseries #RolandDaggett #clayface #catwoman
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:50 BTAS’ criticism of capitalism
2:41 Feat of Clay
6:16 Appointment in Crime Alley
9:07 Cat Scratch Fever
10:21 Catwalk
11:26 Daggett’s comic book appearances
13:48 Conclusion
14:21 Self Promotion
14:48 Next Time
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I find it funny that a video essay about a greedy, multimillion dollar businessman is being copyrighted by a greedy, multimillion dollar business. Go figure.
Obviously the resemblance was close enough they thought he used their image without permission
@@coolgreenbug7551 they felt seen
Unlikely, I don't think they care that much to strike it other then "Hey thats our stuff there." Are they that shallow as the villains in the show? Yeah
Sorry to see that your video got copyright claimed by warner bros. They probably didn't like that roland dagget reminded them of themselves and how they screw over people as well.
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I doubt they care that much
Knowing Warner Bros, I really would not be surprised
Yeah ima avoid this video now
The delicious timing of Zaslav's picture appearing IMMEDIATELY before you start dragging the corporate elite of Gotham...
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And to think, I never would've done it if they hadn't highlighted that segment as being problematic for them.
@@SerumLakeIs there a way to get the original unedited video somewhere else? Could you upload it in Mega?
People like daggett do way more damage than the inmates of arkham could ever aspire to.
I would not go that far. The Joker almost blew up Gotham with a atomic bomb.
@@zemox2534and in Injustice he *did* blow metropolis up with an atomic bomb
warner bros hates being called out lol
After their recent fails like canceling Coyote Vs Acme all because of their current CEO, and Coyote Vs Acme WAS completed and had a POSITIVE reception from test audiences, I’m not surprised.
@@krvgames9258 right??? like wtf man
What I'll say again is that I think it was really cool how they made Roland the spitting image of Norman Osborn from Spider-Man. Heck, Dagget even has some moments where he has this insane smile, and the resemblance is REALLY obvious. Such a cool little nod to Marvel's own evil industrialist.
One of the most “tasteful” copyright reactions I’ve seen, the black-white filter leans into the noir aesthetic, quite interesting to look at, would love to see it reused somehow. Wish you and your channel the best!
Agreed
David Zaslav's creepy little smile just makes me think of Toyman. He actually looks a lot like Toyman's mask lol.
I personally think that adding Zaslav's disgusting face to the background while talking about the villains motivated by greed made the video ten times better. What a stroke of genius.
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Funny how corporations forget that critiques and analysis _exactly like this_ are 100% explicitly legal under United States law, yet push the boundaries of legality everywhere else... 🤔
Excellent response to the "request." 💙🤘
Okay, but this is the best possible response to a copyright claim. 😂
Usually I hate anti-copyright measures like this but it’s genuinely funny how you put Zaslav’s face over the footage as a not-so-subtle jab at him (the man ruined Discovery, Cartoon Network, and because of him Coyote Vs Acme is in limbo, So yeah its very understandable.).
He’s pretty much Daggett irl
@@GOF2013 Only dumber.
Context?
Love how Dagget and Joker and others are driven to the poor house by Batman over the original first season of 85 episodes as it's split on Max.
Ed Asner did a wonderful job. His run as Granny Goodness is wonderful turn on the character.
Oh the irony of Warner Bros acting like Roland Dagget. It never ceases to amaze me. And I have to point out that your other videos on characters from the DCAU, Warner Bros doesn’t copyright strike them. It’s only the Roland Dagget video that they think is going too far.
Unpopular opinion, I prefer the villians like Daggett, and Thorne more because they can still be menacing without going over the top and being a little corny.
I prefer them to give us a more grounded threat the heroes face from time to time.
I would argue that the dream segment in The Forgotten isnt about handouts, but rather Bruce having the realisation that helping financially isnt enough, that he needs to do something more
Just like real life. Giving gibs will only result in dependence a true solution would be to actually help people get back on their feet. I think Sweden has something like this but im not sure.
It's incredible how relatively ordinary people in this show can illicit anger from us more than the more famous villains do 🤔
It’s cause it hits closer to home. We’ve all seen shitbag rich assholes in our own towns who wanna tear down important parts of cities for their own gain. Not many have seen a crazed clown crime boss or a guy in a snot green bodysuit w/ question marks asking you riddles
That is by design. The show wants you to sympathize with the weird, the deranged, the maladaptive the other by making them sympathetic. Pushing the narrative that criminality is just a result of circumstances and or poverty and not the person being a c*nt with low impulse control and other maladaptive behaviors in the first place. (I don't think i have to explain that this narrative is extremely classist, shows that the writers are out of touch and at the same time obsolves the criminal of any fault, it's extremely subversive and stops actual solutions from being discussed) Granted episodes like this in the video show that people can just be aholes, funny tho this only appears for the upperclasses tho as if somehow it's impossible for the same thing to happen if you are poor.
Dagger is the opposite of Bruce Wayne much more than other powerful people, Bruce will do anything within his power to help improve Gotham, even if it gets him in trouble, while Daggett makes Gotham a much worse place by oppressing those he has power over, while cowering or just walking away as soon as the heat is slightly on him, Daggett is everything Bruce strives to be the opposite, thus it is no wonder his intro episode is him framing Bruce.
First off, quite fitting to put Zaslav as a copyright filter while talking about corrupt corporate executives. Second, Roland Daggett makes Ferris Boyle look like a saint in comparison, sheesh!
Villains like Daggot are a great reminder of way Bruce became Batman. Ideally, Bruce would be able to solve most of Gotham’s problems without becoming Batman. But with people like dagget influencing the system so heavily, Batman needs to go outside of the law in order to stop him. (I think that might have been part of what the dream sequence was alluding to, but I might be wrong).
I read the dream as bruce wanting to help but worried that nothig he do will matter and that there will always be people he isn't able to save somehow, and that eventually there'll be too many people for him to be able to do anything for even with his wealth
@@sarafontanini7051I agree
Saying that it's an "anti handout" narrative is extremely simplistic and just shows the video maker's biases.
@@constantinethecataphract5949yeah, I don’t know why he said that either. It’s about Batman’s fear of never being able to do enough as one man
@@waltergaming817
Also he calls himself European.
Europeans identity with their countries first they would say their country first before European. This indicates to me he is either a migrant, a federal European union supporter or generally a reddit tier pseud who sees himself as le citizen of the world, national identities are so backwards man type of person.
David Zaslov is the current Roland Daggett.
Malicious compliance at its best. Chef's kiss! 😘🤌
Zaszlav was undoubtedly the reason it got pulled, and if he saw the video in context he likely shat on it for being compared to a legitimate scumbag like Dagget.
Crazy that this video out of all the vids that could be taken down, it the one calling out corrupt corporations
Coincidence? I. THINK. NOT.
warner bros have got to be making a joke with that takedown, like "we see you, lol"
Honestly, the black and white looks very cool imo, even if it’s only to avoid copyright
I think Warner Bros. and CZcams's copyright system are more hateful than Roland Dagget.
The BTAS production team would be proud of this response to being told you have to change part of your video if you want to make money for people watching
This video was NOT made 5 minutes ago
The original cut was flagged by Warner Brothers and had to be taken down, so I've followed their guidelines and reuploaded it with some adjustments. Hope it satisfies them!
Re-Liking lol have a good one Mr. Lake
You too!
2:16
It seemed like Bruce was stressing over never being able to do enough. Not a statement on handout policies
I am happy to see this video back up.
Out of all the non costumed villains Batman wanted to punch, Dagget is at the very top of the list. He makes Thorne look like a saint.
Im so glad that i saw the og vid
So sorry about the copyright bro
My guess why he’s got incompetent henchmen is that’s he’s a shitty boss who underpays them so all the good henchmen won’t work for him.
Love your stuff Serum lake, Your understanding of the themes and characters is really wonderful
That's very kind of you to say, thank you!
@@SerumLake I must say I HEAVILY disagree with your tangent on the dream sequence. I mean really, calling it propaganda? That doesn't make any sense. It was clearly about Bruce's struggle with the fact that he isnt able to save everyone no matter what he does. You contradict yourself saying this after you just said the writers had contempt for the wealthy, if that's true then why would they insinuate a rightwing belief in a sympathetic light? Also you're making a lot of assumptions when you said that Bruce was thoughtless moving the company to Gotham would take away the jobs of the city it was originally in. Don't you think someone as smart as him would research the possible affects before actually going through with such a plan? You do realize it's entirely possible that Gotham is FAR worse off economically that city where the company originally was right?
@@rogerkeleshian2215Both assessments of the dream can be true, there’s no contradiction there.
Bruce Timm added that dream sequence and stated that handing out money is just a band aid, and does nothing to solve homelessness. What he meant was that you need to do more than just give out money, however the right wing talking point is that there should be no handouts, or any kind of financial support. Just check out the comments on the video I did about Bruce Wayne being an idealised billionaire for right wingers reclaiming that scene.
Edit: re: poverty shuffling, that’s exactly what happens in the real world when industries close down and either go out of business or move to cheaper locations. Look at cities like Detroit that once had a thriving car manufacturing industry. Bruce Wayne openly says that he only cares about bringing jobs to Gotham.
@SerumLake What happened on Detroit was far larger in scale of industry loss than that of one single company. Be that as it may, it's just so out of character for bruce to be so inconsiderate. Obviously, he cares about his home city primarily, but I for some reason doubt he has this ends justify the means attitude about it. I mean, later on we all know he joined the league so wouldn't that be costing him time in Gotham while he's away? Probably not because he likely allocates his time efficiently and picks and chooses when it's safe to help elsewhere.
@SerumLake As for the first point, there's still no implication of a right propaganda in that scene, as the audience isn't moved to think giving money is inherently useless, only that Bruce himself will never have enough. After I watched that scene as a kid, my first immediate thoughts weren't "Hey, look! Bruce Wayne is proving that giving money to the poor is useless" It was "Wow this is poignantly symbolic if not literally metaphoric of Bruce's efforts to save everyone although technically impossible, but the fact that he tries so hard is noble of him".
Roland Daggett is definitely related to Derek Powers
Bro I’m so mad for you that the vid got taken down but DAMN that edit is CUTTING 😂
Well done 😎
Every time one of the animated billionaire villains' faces lines up with David Zaslav, it never fails to make me laugh.
Welp, I was going to try to sleep after staying up for 6 hours past when i normallygo to sleep, but I guess that now has been thrown out the window time to watch this 30 times on repeat
I legitimately needed to focus on something else, but absolutely could not. I felt compelled to re-watch the entire thing right away, because the image on screen became more and more comical as the commentary went on. I nearly laughed out loud when his picture suddenly appeared with the description of Boss Biggis.
Here’s an idea for a future topic, Tony Zucco use it as a comparison between the animated series and the Batman cartoon. I think one shots villains are easier to start out with than recurring villains, after all characters who are basically one and done how much easier to comparison to recurring ones
How did you filter the clips? The perfect black and white actually looks really cool
Roland Daggett's use as a way to showcase corruption in the show was quite effective and hycertainly wasn't the only culprit but having him be a recurring figure coupled with Ed Asner's great performance is what made Daggett much more memorable than other culprits with similar roles. Was it surface level, yeah quite a bit, but it's better than some other shows at the time did when it came to their themes. Speaking of other examples of corruption, there are quite a few examples like Ferris Boyle, Derek Powers, Penguin (in TNBA), Lex Luthor (my favourite) and so on, but the one instance where I felt it actually detracted from an already existing character and made his story less interesting is Daniel Mockridge with Riddler (sidenote I'll always say Nigma with an I). I felt that having Riddler's origin be that he became the Riddler for revenge because he was tricked not as compelling for the character as him becoming Riddler because he needed to prove his intellect and superiority and found normal life dull. It's still present through his dialogue but it's not as prominent until "Riddler's Reform" and even then I wouldn't say it's too focused on. True, Mockridge doesn't appear again but the effects of the episode he appeared in are still very prevalent in "What Is Reality " and I would just have rather they had moved on. It's one of quite a few issues with the DCAU Riddler which you would know since you made a video about him. I think The Batman 2004 handled the approach of him becoming Riddler for revenge in a much more interesting way as it showed that he was always this obsessed and the revenge was just an excuse he used for himself. I've said it before but my favourite adaptation and portrayal of the Riddler is the one voiced by Wally Wingert.
I said it last time so I'll say it again he's probably loosely based off of Robert Mosley who's pretty much responsible for so many black communities getting bulldozed for freeways (not to get too real)
I think that the reason why the writters used so much greedy rich villains is because of the censourship that didn't allow them to portray public corruption or government autority figures as villains, so they used the closer thing they could imagine as a substitute for the realistic evil that makes Gotham in to the criminal nightmare we see in the comics.
I saw the handouts part of the dream sequence akin to Bruce realizing that he can't just throw money at this problem. He is saddened as it dawns on him that these downtrodden are in this position because of a neglectful system that leaves him wondering if he can do more. Giving them some money might help now, but unless he does something to provide stability, these people will just end up right back where they are sooner than later.
Hi, Serum Lake
Howdy!
I'm not Serum Lake, but I *am* interested in propane and propane accessories.
Ed Asner is the voice of Roland Daggett in Batman: The Animated Series. Rip!
I think Hagan should have been allowed to kill Daggett tbh
Sorry your video analysis was copyright claimed. Though it does reinforce your point about corporations and people at the head of corporations.
That’s what I was thinking
Does anyone else I was thinking in Romans first appearance he basically could be seen as a metaphor for plastic surgery in his first appearance. He is offering it to someone who would need facial reconstruction surgery and then he’s planning it to sell it to the vein which is what plastic surgery has become in the mind of most people and I think, even in Japan at one point plastic surgery did cost money and that does have public healthcare
its weird how little dagget appeared in later seasons as his early appearances made it seem he'd be one of the BIG villains of the show, the face of "legitimate" criminals in our society who abuse their positions of power. Instead a lot of his comeuppance happened offscreen and is jsut implied after catwoman and batgirl defeat him.
I feel like giving him a big showdown would just be validating his ego.
Besides, he causes his downfall, which is hilariously karmic.
The Dream Sequence (in my opinion) is more over about Batman's fear that nothing will ever be enough to fix all the problems. But again, that is my veiw of it.
Well like I said that both Roland Dagget and Boss Biggis are people that should never be alive and I wonder that Dagget should have been in Mystery of the Batwoman were he teams up with Penguin, Throne, Carlton and Bane
Glad you added the Dark knight Rises there as I think they change his name to John instead of Roland because of how it sounds like Nolan and that would have used Roland during Bruce’s final years before retiring and that in my Head canon that Bruce did married Selina.
Dagget doesn't seem like he's good at playing nice with others.
@@jordanloux3883I thought so and that he is pure evil
Maybe people like him would be a perfect exception from the No Kill Rule. Granted that would lead into Batman or rather Bruce being a dictator.
Truely ironic how the video you make about an egotistical industry man gets taken down by an egotistical company. For shame, Warner Bros.
0:22 personally, my favorite of all of the original btas enemies. I love that episode so much
The way Daggett talks about the residents sort of reminds me of how the US government and media has talked about the people in Gaza. It’s so grossly dehumanising it makes my skin crawl, “died” “a 5 year old woman”. And what makes it worse is that both Daggett and the Politicians benefit from the suffering of the people they are dehumanising.
What makes some of Batman’s villains so powerful is that they reflect a part of real life, whether it be the horrors of the entertainment industry with Baby Doll or the disgusting entitlement of incels with the Mad Hatter. And what’s more realistic than a rich white man benefiting from the subjugation of poor minorities?
Ah yes. The Israeli Bombing of the Gaza Strip. Funny enough,Donald Trump of ALL people would have been first to go to bat for Israel. But Joe is not really doing anything for Palestine either.
Roland Dagget is the most dangerous mob boss. He can give lex luthor a run for his money
I think that Ronald daggett own,s Ace chemicals
I think this role contributed to me hearing Ed Anser when I read original post crisis Lex. Also hope you cover his turn as Granny Goodness.
Warner Bros keeping it in character I see
This video shouldn't have even been copyright claimed, it is all pure fair use. Even the use of footage is used to explain a point or a theory. I'm disgusted by warner bros. on this front.
at 9:21 thanks for the cameo of me luke and the mention of me at 10:12
Just leaving a like. Have no time to comment properly for the video as of this writing.
Dang why dose Warner bros hate you I feel bad I have make sure I have my notifications on for your channel
It was cool to see him in The Dark Knight Rises!
As said on the original upload 0:51 there is *nothing wrong with being a "hardcore socialist"* - that's what I am.
Especially if you are wearing Black and Red it seems. Ask Kanye.
@@ZX-Gear why would I want political advice from that ignorant dickhead?
David Zaslav.
What will happen bruce wayne and roland daggett were stranded on an island ?
like walter said sometimes the real monster work 9 to 5
Daggett and his company were referenced in Gotham Knights, but not many people know that however because the game wasn’t good
I like to think that Warners have a sense of humor. Also that filter makes this look like take on me (take on warners?)
I remember this espiode. Melty man horrifing.
Hmm. WB copyright claims the video talking about how the stand in for the rich industrialists abusing people for money is the most despicable villain in the series. One could almost think that they were . . . offended by it?
Nah, I'm sure it's coincidence.
Also, I want to apologize for the outburst in the original video. Without the context of what was going on in my head, that might have seemed a little strange. Of course, if it had been an actual psychotic episode, context probably would have been irrelevant because it wouldn't have been any more sensible. Fortunately, that was not an episode, or at least not a psychotic one. It was just a case of what psychologists call "catastrophic thinking," an anxiety induced state of panic where one leaps to irrational worst-case scenarios. I'll leave the full details for therapy, but to sum up briefly, because that stupid capitalist vs. socialist argument was adjacent to an actual episode I went through in 2017, the fact that I brought it up again in a context where it wasn't actually that relevant brought memories back and . . . well, you can imagine why that panicked me. And in that panicked state, my brain was racing too fast for me to use standard coping mechanisms, such as reminding myself to think in the first person in order to avoid depersonalizing my thoughts.
Fortunately, I have arrangements with my family to check in on me regularly in case things like this happen, so I had help to work through it, though it did take time for me to calm down enough that I could visit CZcams again. So much stress over nothing, but at least no harm done. Aside from the embarrassment.
Anyway, thanks for your understanding.
No problem, I'll also try to keep that in mind for the future!
Would Bruce wayne hire roland daggett, but keep an eye on him?
Do the gill mason episodes
Now that’s a good idea!
Ed Asner
While I enjoy your commentary very much, I would point out that sometimes it's a rich person's tactic to import labour to keep the working class down and deny them better living conditions. Oh, you want a raise? Well, I got this guy from a wartorn country desperate for anything, and he'll take no breaks, no vacations, and work for half of what you do, while sleeping in my company-owned barracks and paying me rent on top of it!
Capitalism does pit us against each other, and we've got to set terms that capitalists can't exploit, and we can't allow them to take advantage of desperate people to get their profits while keeping the working man down. we can't always team up.
I really hate that Daggett never got what was coming to him. He always seemed to get away with everything by passing the buck to someone else.
I’ve seen a lot of your videos, and yeah I wouldn’t call you socialist, more against people exploiting the success of actually talented people before them. So go off.
I’ve always wondered something about people who have universal healthcare is it just for general stuff or does it apply to specialists because Matt Hagen looks like a guy who might have needed a specialist I mean it’s one thing for like a general doctor, but I questioned if someone who went in to so much effort to be a specialist would realistically work for free
In the UK it also applies to specialist care. Some treatments aren't approved for our national health service, but that's mostly the experimental procedures that haven't got a high success rate. And I should clarify that the doctors don't work for free, they're paid by the government, who raise the funds through taxes. When I say "free at the point of use" that means you don't have to pay anything to see a doctor or have an operation, even if you don't have a job and aren't paying taxes.
@@SerumLake I was thinking more on the lines of plastic surgeons, because technically, that is what Matt requires let’s face it even though you need a medical license to become a plastic surgeon. Most of us don’t typically see them as been connected to the medical industry.
@@ajerjavec4723 yes, you can get plastic surgery on the NHS in the UK, so long as your doctor signs off on it.
@@SerumLake oh, I was just thinking because Roland’s actions in that episode, feel like it might be a metaphor for plastic surgery I mean clay face needed help and typically face surgery needs tweaking every 6 to 20 years and considering that he’s a big actor he might go for the lower end and then Roland is trying to sell his product to the vein which let’s face. It is what we usually see plastic surgery as I mean I doubt the vein would realistically would realistically be allowed to do plastic surgery for no cost
I actually made a comment about that and I also know that at one point in Japan plastic surgery did cost money and I think they have public healthcare
man i would rather you use screenshots from the show rather than this headache inducing copyright avoidance. thank you anyway.
If they don't appreciate the joke and take this one down too I'll do as you suggested
@@SerumLake cool! Thank you for the video.
@@SerumLake Translation: "If you don't like the movie, I've got slides." 😂
Drag hiiiiiiiim
Has Batman ever gone up against Lex? Besides Batman vs Superman.
Yes, many times in the DC cartoons. Theres a cool scene in World’s Finest where Batman breaks into Lex’s home while he sleeps, knocks out Mercy, and interrogates Lex, showing him just how vulnerable he is.
@@SerumLake Nice!
He's so used to his wealth and power keeping him safe from Superman he doesn't realize Superman is one of the Most good guys out there. 😅@@SerumLake
There's the Justice League show. Batman gets captured by Lex and other villains and, after failing to get information on the League, Batman pretty much pits the villains against each other despite being bound, all the way until the others are able to track them down and help free him. He even gave Cheetah the Catwoman treatment 😁
Bro
Milo
As far as the accusations of Socialism goes. Chat,he is a Britbong. It is kind in European DNA at this point.
Daggett is just too one-dimensional for my tastes. Like Boyle in Heart of Ice, he’s just meant to be a character that kids will realize is a villain even though he doesn’t rob or punch anyone.
I'm sorry but this is just unwatchable, I couldn't even last a minute. It sucks that WB copyright claimed you and I get that you had to find a way around it, but this wasn't it.
The fact he’s a willing communist doesn’t help
Wow, done watching these. I don’t support communism
Bye, Felicia!
Please don't assume every Brit or European is as left leaning as yourself. I can promise you we aren't.
Haha. Pretty sure the growing Populism proves this. 😊
0:52 I'm a socialist living in the United States. So go off, sir.
Nothing will make things funnier to me than the people most Critical of Capitalism rely on said Capitalism to be Critical of Capitalism. 😊
I'm sure the irony also wasn't lost on those who criticized feudalism while living under it. 😁
It's funny that they claimed this video with who you cover