Always excuses when it comes to this guy year after year, "if if if if if if if" that's all I hear. People forget earlier in his career he had good receivers and was still losing just the same.
@@itshiho What good receivers? Jennings? He was trash with anyone else throwing to him when he left. And he wasn't "losing" when he had those guys - he won the super bowl.
In 5 seasons Carson Wentz has 0 playoff wins 52 fumbles. He is 7-20 vs teams over 500. He has no heart no desire to win. His teammates hate him. He has started 5-6 in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He has the IQ of a potato. Eagles are 24-6 in their last 30 games with Nick Foles.
Or don’t ask him questions regarding his criticism.. he got asked a question about the criticism he received and he responded with confidence he was not overdoing it or showing off and this is coming from a Vikings
what's funny about this is that Pat, AJ and Aaron shortly after mention how media will take one line from an entire interview and change the narrative.
matt 187 exactly it wasn’t really a down year the new system allows for rodgers to not carry the team like before and jones emerged as a star last year
@@WalmartGreeter4 I think it was. New system. He didn't trusted his Receivers the way he does now. His approach was more like: I am not sure if this throw is gonna work so I won't try it. Now he just makes the throw and it works.
Ikr. As a Falcons fan you go 13-3 with a first year coach, make it to the NFC championship and lose bc of no run defense, you really gonna complain about Aaron? Ill take a 13-3 season any year lol
Media: Aaron Rodgers has a down year Aaron Rodgers: My down years are other qb's career years Media: Stop being defensive/ Don't you dare respond to criticism
@@matthewarnold4557 he literally said he was being defensive and then tried to compare him to Micheal Jordan, Saying he would never do that or have an “off” year. Lmao nothing wrong with confidence.
@@jonhohensee3258 bro what’s wrong with what he said lmao. He’s supposed to just take criticism on the chin he doesn’t agree with? Not to mention he’s on pats show. They are all buddies just having a conversation, like they do every week. It’s not an interview.
@@_outkastfan_2882 I hope you are joking because if you aren't you are dumber than a rock and you don't know jack about Rogers relationship so why are you pretending too
Discount Drake I think you should too. If there’s already an a-rod in sports history, don’t take up the same name. I know Aaron as a baaaaad man before I call him a-rod
Everyone needs to understand that Arron Rogers does an interview with Pat Mcafee every Tuesday... they are all on CZcams and you will only get the full context if you watch them in their entirety
Game of Stones Mahomes is simply Rodgers with better weapons, need to see him do it with less talent around him to say he is as talented as Aaron Rodgers
Leave it to Max to make any conversation about Mahomes. The guy never shuts up about him. I still think Rodgers is better than Mahomes, even on Mahomes' best day
Mahomes is a stud, absolutely. He's the face of the league as it stands and he absolutely should be. I say this as a diehard Packers fan. But there wasn't any reason to bring him up in this debate. I'm sure Mahomes would agree.
@@eazyems0 no, but before last year, Mike McCarthy refused to use Aaron Jones in any capacity. He was clearly the best running back on the team and McCarthy only let him have like 8 to 10 carries a game.
In 5 seasons Carson Wentz has 0 playoff wins 52 fumbles. He is 7-20 vs teams over 500. He has no heart no desire to win. His teammates hate him. He has started 5-6 in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He has the IQ of a potato. Eagles are 24-6 in their last 30 games with Nick Foles.
That's basically Max' way of undercutting everything Rodgers does just so he can put Mahomes on the pedestal. Personally, I hate it because both Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers are outplaying Mahomes this year by leaps and bounds in QB play.
Jared Doucet agreed and Pat Mahommes has WAYYYY better weapons than both of them and has better play calling than either of Russ or A Rod. Yet Russ and A Rod are playing at a higher level at the moment, it’s a 3 way race for MVP right now. Russ, A Rod and don’t forget about how Josh Allen is playing🤫
@@crater044 FACTS. After hearing Max knock Brady for years to suck Rodgers off, it's nice to see the Rodgers fans realize what Max does too. Welcome to the club
In 5 seasons Carson Wentz has 0 playoff wins 52 fumbles. He is 7-20 vs teams over 500. He has no heart no desire to win. His teammates hate him. He has started 5-6 in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He has the IQ of a potato. Eagles are 24-6 in their last 30 games with Nick Foles.
I watched the Mcafee segment live and it was a great quote! It’s laughable when you talk about last year as a down year; most qbs don’t even touch 4000 yards.
I guess... he’s not wrong though. To be at that level you have to be aware of how good you are... For me it doesn’t come across as arrogant. Its hard to say anything online without sounding like a biased fanboy. I swear I’m just a general football fan.
In 5 seasons Carson Wentz has 0 playoff wins 52 fumbles. He is 7-20 vs teams over 500. He has no heart no desire to win. His teammates hate him. He has started 5-6 in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He has the IQ of a potato. Eagles are 24-6 in their last 30 games with Nick Foles.
He's top 5 no question. You take into account his stats and his athletic ability and his insane accuracy either standing still or running sideline to sideline there's nobody better except maybe Mahomes. Mahomes obviously isn't on the list right now because he has to do it for 10 years like Rodgers has. But he's a straight up better qb than Brady, Montana, Marino, Brees, Favre, Staubach, Aikman and Peyton imo. Rodgers has a little bit all of those guys in his own game and pair it with his own unique ability to run around and throw on the move to anywhere on the field. No other qb is close
Bums? Not so sure...Lazard has really developed and Tonyan has showed up. He’s definitely more comfortable in the system, he’s healthy, and GBs run threat is opening doors. The man is special, but he has some costars. If it was as simple as making crazy plays throwing to bums, McCarthy would still be coach.
McAfee really brings out Aaron Rodgers true self every week I look forward to it every week. might be best sports interviews on TV today u can tell they are actually friends. Fun to watch weekly.
@@mymom9741 Both of them tend to make good points every once and a while but they both have their go to tics to explain their points, whether they are good or (sometimes) bad. Stephen A is more animated and the over the top......Max is more smug and a know it all. Both are irritating (I find SAS far more entertaining to listen to than Max "PATRICK MAHOMES" Kellerman)
In glad that Pat is starting to get mainstream attention. His show is truly the best one by FAR. All these shows are so complacent and stuck in their ways, and Pat is absolutely slaughtering the game!
Thank you Stephen A for laying on the due respect... I was about to punch my computer screen after listening to Skip B's ignorant condescending take. My faith in humanity has been restored
“It’s a little defensive actually,” nah again he’s being taken out of context, which is ironically what Rodgers was talking about when he made the comment.
I’m an eagles fan but my favorite player off my own team for the past 10 years has always been Aaron Rodgers, dudes a straight assassin and one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play id put him top 5 at least
I’ve said this over the last 7 years man. His defense is his offense and have always had to our score opponents when the defense couldn’t help the team out in getting stops.
I don’t blame Rodgers or Russ for promoting themselves. They’re both better than Mahomes! The hype surrounding Mahomes and Jackson is nauseating, and somewhat undeserved. Yes, they were arguably deserving of their MVP’s (Jackson more than Mahomes), but when you begin to dissect Mahomes’s best year (2018) and compare it to Brees’s 2018 and Russ’s 2018, and control for certain statistics (like pass attempts), Mahomes isn’t killing the league. *COMPARE ROOKIE AND 2017 YEARS* In a side-by-side comparison with Russ, what can Mahomes hang his hat on? He sat the bench behind Alex Smith as a rookie in 2017. Russ started as a true rookie and nearly led his team, which had gone 7-9 each of the two prior seasons (part of a four-year, 24-42 record) to the NFC Championship game, and a possible Super Bowl, that year. In Russ’s actual 2017, he broke Tom Brady’s NFL record for total offense, accounting for nearly 90% of the Seahawks’ offense. FK Blair Walsh torpedoed what would have been a 13-3 record into a 9-7 record by missing 4 in-range, game-winning FGA’s. In either case, Mahomes loses. *COMPARE 2018 AND SECOND YEARS* I know for a fact that the only difference between Mahomes and Russ in 2018 was 11 pass attempts per game. Control for that disparity in pass attempts, and three of Russ’s volume metrics (Yards, TD’s and INT’s) change. Russ’s 2018 stats: 427 Attempts (26 A/G), *3,448* Yards, *35* TD’s, 12.2 TD’s per Attempt, *7* INT’s, 66.5% Complete%, and a 111+ Passer Rating. With the additional 11 attempts? Russ has *4,803* Yards, *49.432* TD’s, *9.8* INT’s, 66.5% Complete%, and a 111+ Passer Rating. Mahomes’s stat-line: 593 Attempts, 5,093 Yards, 50 TD’s, 12 INT’s, 66.0% Complete%, and a 113 Passer Rating. If you want the actual calculations I can provide them to you. Understand what this is telling you. For the number of attempts Russ took, he was every bit as productive and efficient as Mahomes, and he did it with a run-first offense, a porous O-Line, an injured Doug Baldwin, and no DK Metcalf! Mind you, Russ also schooled Mahomes in a prime-time head-to-head battle - one of four prime-time losses Mahomes suffered in 2018. So Mahomes’s 2018 MVP year is statistically neutralized by Russ’s performance from that same year, which was completely overlooked because the voters can’t do simple algebra! Let me remind you that Mahomes walked into a team that had a combined 42-24 record over the prior four years (the exact opposite of Russ’s situation, noted above), and was a Super Bowl contender, taking over for a consensus top-100 player in Alex Smith. Russ in his own second year led his team to the Super Bowl. People love to credit the LoB and Marshawn Lynch and day that Russ didn’t have to do much. THATS A LIE!!! Russ had taken over a team that had twice gone 7-9 with the LoB and a Lynch before he was drafted, and in one of those years, former a Super a Bowl and Pro Bowl QB Matt Hasslebeck was under center. So this notion that Russ was just along for the ride is ridiculous. Go back and review his performances. He was a game-manager for all of about three games early in his rookie year, and that was by design. In his first two years he broke Peyton Manning’s rookie TD record, and did it with about 50 fewer pass attempts, and led the league in game-winning drives. He also remained undefeated vs. Super Bowl winning QB’s Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rothlisberger, and both Manning Brothers, all of whom were in their primes or at least at the top of their games back then. *COMPARE 2019’s AND THEIR YEAR-3’s* He won a Super Bowl! Mahomes sat out for at least two games after struggling against the Colts, who seemed to have found the combination to neutralizing him. He led his team to the Super Bowl, where he played like garbage for three quarters until waking up in the 4th Brady-style...or Russ-style! 👏🏾 Good for him. Russ, who has still never missed a single game or start in his entire career, flat outplayed Mahomes on the season. Russ remained the MVP favorite until late season, when Lamar Jackson began stringing together ridiculous performances against the Patriots, Rams and 49ers. Russ put together another ridiculously efficient season, and came within a heartbeat of making the NFC title game. His O-Line was still not improved, and in fact ranked as low as #30 in some estimates. Russ’s actual year-3 was epic for a number of reasons. First, he extended his record vs. Super Bowl winning QB’s to 10-0, and it would have gone to 11-0 if not for one play! That season, Russ began divorce proceedings against his unfaithful wife, fought through a locker room in discord - including a cancerous Percy Harvin, who had to be shipped out, and inched his way towards becoming the second-highest rated passer in NFL history (behind Aaron Rodgers). Russ remains in the #2 spot to this day. He also had more game-winning drives over his first three years, and in his third year, than any other active QB at the time. As if that weren’t enough, he rushed for 849 yards, becoming the first QB since Michael Vick to pass for 2,700 yards and rush for 500+ yards. Despite the locker room and off-the-field turmoil, Russ led the Seahawks back to the Super Bowl, and outplayed Tom Brady during the game only to have a certain win snatched from him and his entire team by an incompetent Offensive Coordinator and a weak receiver who failed to catch a perfectly thrown pass! Everyone knows that, if the Seahawks simply hand the ball to Beast Mode, or let Russ throw to the back corners of the end zone, the Seahawks nail their second consecutive Super Bowl. How would that have changed history? Would Richard Sherman and ET have become bitter and toxic locker room presences? Would Kam Chancellor and Michael Bennett have tried to hold out at the beginning of the 2015 season, which put Russ behind Cam Newton in the MVP race? Would Beast Mode have faked an injury, sat out, and then come back rusty at the end of 2015-16, only to fake-retire his way out of Seattle? He had some years left in him. How many more Super Bowl appearances might the Seahawks have racked up before Mahomes even got into the league? My guess is potentially four! Again, context matters. Russ accomplished all of his feats with a team that relied on an overrated defense prone to late-game letdowns, a poor-to-below-average O-Line at best, an unstable RB position and mostly average receivers.
It’s hilarious how in that same interview Aaron was talking about how the media looks too deeply into quotes and makes things out of nothing, and here max is claiming that this quote shows Aaron’s trying to be overly defensive about his play.
SAS is 100% when he says we'll miss him when he's gone. Rodgers is a legend. Not just because he's got a Super Bowl. He's a star. Look at some of the most influential sports stars in recent history. He doesn't just win...he's memorable. He's entertaining. He has a personality. People remember MJ not just because he won titles, but because he was a star. People remember Dale Earnhardt not just because he was a champion 7 times over...he was a star. It doesn't matter if Rodgers doesn't get another SB. He's a star and he will be remembered as one of the most lethal and smart QB's in history.
“Off-year” meaning below standard (at least with respect to expectations) during one’s prime. MJ’a Wizards years were retirement years after his prime, not off-years. 😂
the last time Aaron Rodgers had a receiving core any where near like Pat Mahomes does now he won the super bowl and the following year went 15-1. that’s all i gotta say
He’s right. It’s like the year KD first joined the Warriors and Curry’s 3-pt% was hovering around 40% after being higher the year before. Most players would take being at 40% from 3
This is one of the best receinvg cores I have seen since their 2010-2011-2012 Years. Greg Jennings Jordy Nelson Donald Driver James Jones Randall Cobb Jermichael Finley Now Devante Adams Allen Lazard MVS Robert Tonyan Mercedes Lewis Jamall Williams Aaron Jones
Blake Scott I disagree. Donald Driver was a baller. So was Greg Jennings. I believe Jordy could’ve been good without Rodgers but he was too banged by the time he left GB
@@Jay.on.Chills They had favre too....They were also a product of favre,Driver was good but he never made 1st team all pro with favre but Antonio freeman did with favre but was trash with eagles.Even Javon Walker best season with favre trumps any year donald driver had with favre.Jordy wasn't to bang up when he came back and led the NFL in receiving touchdowns with Rodgers in 2016 and also balling the first 4 games until Rodgers got hurt and he was nowhere to be found.
NO QB IN NFL HISTORY OTHER THAN RODGERS has thrown for 4,000 yards, more than 25 TD's, and less than 5 INT's in an NFL season. He did that last year. Suck it. And here's another thing: I GUARANTEE that Rodger's will be the ONLY NFL QB to throw for 400 TD's before throwing 100 INT's for as long as the NFL exists. He WILL do it (that's an absolute given), but It will NEVER happen again. Yes, he's THAT amazing. It's a record that will NEVER be broken, EVER.
in that podcast, they talked about how the media blows everything up no matter the context. glad to see espn proved them right lol
Was just about to say that lol
thekingbradable same lol
They will talk about that next ARod Tuesday
What? They all showed arod love.
Cod Kue They still blew it up... good or bad
If u don’t want Rodgers to defend himself don’t criticize him
Exactly, these Epsn guys be acting like they ain’t say anything
Always excuses when it comes to this guy year after year, "if if if if if if if" that's all I hear. People forget earlier in his career he had good receivers and was still losing just the same.
@@itshiho What good receivers? Jennings? He was trash with anyone else throwing to him when he left. And he wasn't "losing" when he had those guys - he won the super bowl.
In 5 seasons Carson Wentz has 0 playoff wins 52 fumbles. He is 7-20 vs teams over 500. He has no heart no desire to win. His teammates hate him. He has started 5-6 in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He has the IQ of a potato. Eagles are 24-6 in their last 30 games with Nick Foles.
Or don’t ask him questions regarding his criticism.. he got asked a question about the criticism he received and he responded with confidence he was not overdoing it or showing off and this is coming from a Vikings
what's funny about this is that Pat, AJ and Aaron shortly after mention how media will take one line from an entire interview and change the narrative.
Christian Abraham that’s exactly what I was thinkng😂
Yes! Compare my boy Rodgers vs that pure thrash called SAK Prescott!
That goes without saying, how oblivious can you be not to know that. Its obvious and is the purpose of the american system
Litterally just finished that part of the podcast and slide down to see this
Yeah I haven't watched undisputed yet, but I guarantee Skip Bayless had something negative to say about it. But he criticizes him for everything.
McAfee’s podcast >>>> any show on ESPN
For sure
By far
well the jump is good cause mcafee is on it lol. surely better than first take by a long shot
4REAL!!!! Now ESPN gotta beg for McAfee's rights to show his content!!!
@@zerti86 You mean Get Up
He ain’t wrong LMAOOO flex on em.
Offcourse. Last season was a down year for him and still a top 10 QB. So by definition 22 starting QBs have been worse.
Exactly lmao
Adrian Buck honestly wasn’t even a down year Aaron jones was just balling n it made no sense to not feed him
matt 187 exactly it wasn’t really a down year the new system allows for rodgers to not carry the team like before and jones emerged as a star last year
@@WalmartGreeter4 I think it was. New system. He didn't trusted his Receivers the way he does now. His approach was more like: I am not sure if this throw is gonna work so I won't try it. Now he just makes the throw and it works.
ESPN won’t hire mcafee but will use his show as material😂
He does football games for them he’s not employed?
He is employed....
@@lilnaoji949 no he's not directly employed by ESPN they just have him do guest appearances
@@thekingbradable he isn't, he sometimes appears on some.shows like get up or the college football show
Espn dosent deserve pat us they would put so many restrictions on him
Pat and the boys: “OOOOOOOHHHHH”
AJ: 😄
Molly: “Ayyyyyy”
Stephen A and Max : 😐😐
Me: 🤣
😂😂😂
max: 🤬
I’m pretty sure there’s a delay on Max’s end too.
😂
If 13-3 is slipping LET MY FAVORITE TEAM’s QB SLIP FROM THIS DAY FORWARD.
Exactly
🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏾
Ikr. As a Falcons fan you go 13-3 with a first year coach, make it to the NFC championship and lose bc of no run defense, you really gonna complain about Aaron? Ill take a 13-3 season any year lol
Luke Gramith Same the bronco have went through countless qbs since Peyton retired. We would kill for a “slipping” Aaron Rodgers.
Wish my cowboys can "slip" like that.
Media: Aaron Rodgers has a down year
Aaron Rodgers: My down years are other qb's career years
Media: Stop being defensive/ Don't you dare respond to criticism
Basically. Also Mahomes is better even though that's not part of the subject
@@Blackmegagun Mahommes have better weapons. His skills aren't really better.
@@Blackmegagun mahommes has been in the better organization. Chiefs have great coaching and management. Great talent especially in the offensive side.
@@Blackmegagun 😂no.
It's a joke guys lol I was mocking him for always making the subject about mahomes
Lmao the fact that he’s telling the truth is what makes this hilarious 😂
Fr!
What im saying bro😂😂PackGoPack
Actually tho lol
And people getting all butthurt about it only proving his point 😂
Fr!
This why Rodgers don’t talk to yall, he knew everyone would react to this and twist it without context. Leave my guy alone
Did you watch the video? Because neither one of them had a negative thing to say about Rodgers
@@matthewarnold4557 he literally said he was being defensive and then tried to compare him to Micheal Jordan, Saying he would never do that or have an “off” year. Lmao nothing wrong with confidence.
But how was it twisted?
@@xxkon1xx You can be confident without tooting your own horn.
@@jonhohensee3258 bro what’s wrong with what he said lmao. He’s supposed to just take criticism on the chin he doesn’t agree with? Not to mention he’s on pats show. They are all buddies just having a conversation, like they do every week. It’s not an interview.
Rodgers seems the happiest he’s ever been, and a happy a rod is a dangerous one
And he left danica haha
Eagles Fan same coach from last year is the same coach from this year buddy
@@_outkastfan_2882 I hope you are joking because if you aren't you are dumber than a rock and you don't know jack about Rogers relationship so why are you pretending too
@@_outkastfan_2882 Really? Matt LaFleur is now in Dallas?
Groucho Marxist lmao you get it tho
A-Rod’s Mojo is different now that he’s played better, so he’s absolutely right on the money about pressure
Okay but don’t call him A-rod lol if anything a-a-rod 😂
KreyzAim people have been calling him a rod for like ten years lmao
Patrick Christopher Im just so used to Alex Rodríguez being the steroid pumped a-rod that anybody else being a-rod is just a bad idea lol
KreyzAim Contex you should use it
Discount Drake I think you should too. If there’s already an a-rod in sports history, don’t take up the same name. I know Aaron as a baaaaad man before I call him a-rod
I want to see pat and Stephen A have a debate 😂😂
That would be amazing to see
Your Wrong And Here's Why
Buzzer2Buzzer I see you comment on every first take video.
Buzzer2Buzzer Your videos suck. Stop commenting on every single video
Maybe replace Skip with Pat... Shannon and Pat would be must-see TV.. both are great, and hilarious
Lifelong Bears fan. Rodgers is right. Hes a legend and should be treated as such. Still hate him tho 😆
@James R we can pray
@Nathaniel Baxter ZERO chance Rodgers goes back to McCarthy
And OWNs da bears
A Rod is not even an originan nickname
Alex Rodriguez has something to say about this
Just like Lawrence Taylor with Ladanian Tomlinson (LT) lol
Facts lol
If you watched the McPhee show yesterday, they talked about how the media breaks down everything he says😂😂😂
The biggest takeaway from Pat's show should have been...
Aaron Rodgers completely dominated his 7th grade spelling competition.
And he lost in 6th grade because of the word pneumonia. But still, it is what it is.
LMFAOOO someone watched the show!
Everyone needs to understand that Arron Rogers does an interview with Pat Mcafee every Tuesday... they are all on CZcams and you will only get the full context if you watch them in their entirety
exactly
max said it was defensive but he was just chilling with his friends talking about stuff
Lol max sounded like the defensive one out of the bunch
Ironic when Max came out defending Mahomes when nobody mentioned him
Honestly it sounded very chill and matter of fact.
Leave it to Max to make an Aaron Rodgers segment about Mahomes
Give Mahomes Rodger's weapons and he's a bottom 15 quarterback. Rodgers is on a whole different level
Game of Stones Mahomes is simply Rodgers with better weapons, need to see him do it with less talent around him to say he is as talented as Aaron Rodgers
Leave it to Max to make any conversation about Mahomes. The guy never shuts up about him. I still think Rodgers is better than Mahomes, even on Mahomes' best day
Game of Stones straight up bro ABSOLUTE FACTS
Mahomes is a stud, absolutely. He's the face of the league as it stands and he absolutely should be. I say this as a diehard Packers fan. But there wasn't any reason to bring him up in this debate. I'm sure Mahomes would agree.
Molly: what does this say about him?
Stephen A: He's a Baaaaad Man..
Stephen A needs to cut back on that saying. It's gettin' annoying. And I'm a Rodgers fan.
Stephen A. hit the nail on the head. If Rodgers had Mahomes’ crew and coach for the last 5 years, he’d have at least 4 SBs by now
Your probably right but what does Mahomes have to do with this?
Isaiah Armand it has to do with ppl will always compare players to another but fail to add context
@@kyj060792 agreed
Are Devante Adams and Aaron Jones garbage compared to Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce? 🤔
@@eazyems0 no, but before last year, Mike McCarthy refused to use Aaron Jones in any capacity. He was clearly the best running back on the team and McCarthy only let him have like 8 to 10 carries a game.
He's a BAAAAD Man
Thanks Stephen A
Pat and the boys made it to the big show😂😂😂💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Saw pat a few times on get up
Aj hawk played for the nfl
In 5 seasons Carson Wentz has 0 playoff wins 52 fumbles. He is 7-20 vs teams over 500. He has no heart no desire to win. His teammates hate him. He has started 5-6 in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He has the IQ of a potato. Eagles are 24-6 in their last 30 games with Nick Foles.
@@dannywoodson5049 your an eagles fan huh?
Peep the views man 😂 they ARE the big show
Pat and the boys is the big show. This is the clown show
Max “Until Patrick Mahomes came along” Kellerman
Faxxs 😂😂
Nobody: ...
Still Nobody: .....
Someone: So how’s the weath....
Max: Snowy UNTIL PATRICK MAHOMES CAME ALONG!!!
That's basically Max' way of undercutting everything Rodgers does just so he can put Mahomes on the pedestal. Personally, I hate it because both Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers are outplaying Mahomes this year by leaps and bounds in QB play.
Jared Doucet agreed and Pat Mahommes has WAYYYY better weapons than both of them and has better play calling than either of Russ or A Rod. Yet Russ and A Rod are playing at a higher level at the moment, it’s a 3 way race for MVP right now. Russ, A Rod and don’t forget about how Josh Allen is playing🤫
@@crater044 FACTS. After hearing Max knock Brady for years to suck Rodgers off, it's nice to see the Rodgers fans realize what Max does too. Welcome to the club
FOR THE BRANDDDDD
Ayy facts 😎
Can't be surprised that Rodgers' conversation on Pat McAfee show ended on ESPN😂
I see Stephen A came to his senses and washed the spray paint out his hair 😂😂
Ok I thought he looked very 2000ish
He look beyond crazy with that ‘new’ hair
savage lol
In 5 seasons Carson Wentz has 0 playoff wins 52 fumbles. He is 7-20 vs teams over 500. He has no heart no desire to win. His teammates hate him. He has started 5-6 in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He has the IQ of a potato. Eagles are 24-6 in their last 30 games with Nick Foles.
danny woodson No one cares
Love they used mcafees podcast for material 😂😂
I watched the Mcafee segment live and it was a great quote!
It’s laughable when you talk about last year as a down year; most qbs don’t even touch 4000 yards.
The only problem with that quote is that it makes Rodgers look arrogant.
I guess... he’s not wrong though. To be at that level you have to be aware of how good you are...
For me it doesn’t come across as arrogant.
Its hard to say anything online without sounding like a biased fanboy.
I swear I’m just a general football fan.
@@Smiththebat - There's a difference between knowing it and saying it out loud.
@@jonhohensee3258 fair enough
Aaron Rodgers’ mentality is different this year
thats what happens when your team drafts a quarterback
@Aaron Boone are you talking about his ex "bluescreen of death" (UrinatingTree)
Supposedly switch to Tequila from scotch that’s why lol 🥃
He broke up with Danica Patrick. Imagine dating a chick that's more into cars than you are?
AJ HAWK 🦅🦅🦅
AJ “🗿” HAWK
@@usernotfound904 AJ HAWK 🦅🦅🦅!!!!
Kawwww kawwwwwww
AJ HAWK🚬🚬🚬
AJ HAWK.
He cleary understands his lane value and talent
Some fans cleary are lost on that concept
A Rod isn't saying anything wrong! Keep being a beast 💪
Straight facts!
FACTS. AA ROD EVEN SAID IT. FACTS
cleary?
CRIMSON CHIN HAWK
FOR THE BRAND
I love that 🤣🤣
In 5 seasons Carson Wentz has 0 playoff wins 52 fumbles. He is 7-20 vs teams over 500. He has no heart no desire to win. His teammates hate him. He has started 5-6 in 3 of his first 4 seasons. He has the IQ of a potato. Eagles are 24-6 in their last 30 games with Nick Foles.
danny woodson what does that have to do with the Crimson chin of AJ Hawk? And give Wentz a break man
Baby pec FTW!!!
I’m a bears fan but I laughed at this so hard when I seen this because it’s so true. 😂
Lol
Dropping dimes and suck it signs
One of the greatest of all time. From a bears fan
@Brady Bryant I think you can still be called one of the greatest even if he's top 15-20.
He's top 5 no question. You take into account his stats and his athletic ability and his insane accuracy either standing still or running sideline to sideline there's nobody better except maybe Mahomes. Mahomes obviously isn't on the list right now because he has to do it for 10 years like Rodgers has. But he's a straight up better qb than Brady, Montana, Marino, Brees, Favre, Staubach, Aikman and Peyton imo. Rodgers has a little bit all of those guys in his own game and pair it with his own unique ability to run around and throw on the move to anywhere on the field. No other qb is close
We need a Chiefs vs Packers SB.
That would be so good.
Facts
Seattle better than both
Paquette Stephen Brett
Suspect defense !!
That’s my hopeful pick. Packers Chiefs, everyone healthy. Omg 😱
He’s playin out of his mind right now and he’s throwing to bums
Except Davante
@@naothi Davante hasn't played in 3 games.
@@aniruddhaiyengar8788 as a Packers fan I was scared when finding out he was out but Rodgers is doing something special with these guys
Bums? Not so sure...Lazard has really developed and Tonyan has showed up. He’s definitely more comfortable in the system, he’s healthy, and GBs run threat is opening doors. The man is special, but he has some costars. If it was as simple as making crazy plays throwing to bums, McCarthy would still be coach.
@@maxtaylor1156 bro Allen Lazard and Tonyan are the types to leave him and be out of the league after a year bro they’re not really that good
Aaron with that GOAT TALK! Lets go!!!😂 QBeyoncé
I actually want to see mahomes vs Rodgers super bowl
You may just get your wish 🤔
Aaron with the big flex 😂😂😂
Facts
Facts Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers
He shouldn't flex. Let his performance on the field do the talking.
I was waiting for one of these shows to pick this up haha
Don’t typically agree with Steven A but man I love that he’s defending A-rod. It’s great
Alex Rodriguez??!
@@lakeozarkrei3767 😂
He ain't lying. if you believe last year was a down year for him it only proves his point because he balled out.
AJ “🗿” HAWK
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McAfee really brings out Aaron Rodgers true self every week I look forward to it every week. might be best sports interviews on TV today u can tell they are actually friends. Fun to watch weekly.
Rodgers is the best when his backs against the wall.
Jacob Grohman I swear he a baaaaaaaaaadddddd man!
back's
Like Jalen Ramsey once said “I was only out there spitting facts to him”
I think Kellermans entire broadcasting career would be considered "off years"
Max makes good points. Steven A just takes control of the show regardless
@@mymom9741 Both of them tend to make good points every once and a while but they both have their go to tics to explain their points, whether they are good or (sometimes) bad.
Stephen A is more animated and the over the top......Max is more smug and a know it all. Both are irritating (I find SAS far more entertaining to listen to than Max "PATRICK MAHOMES" Kellerman)
Jared Doucet Max just really loses me when he tries to convince the entire world that Brady “Fell of a cliff” so stupid
He’s a baddddddddddddddddddddddd man
Pat made it on FIRST. TAKE. Movin on your in the world brother!
Give the Pat McAfee show credit !!! Don’t just clip it !
It says pat McAfee show on the screen and in the description.
Relax
🔥Zay97🔥 😂😂😂
Exactly Stephen A 💪🏼
Let's gooooo! Pat getting the views and respect he deserves!!
Aaron, Pat, AJ, and the boys are trolling the sports media so bad haha
Max almost had an aneurysm there in the beginning lmao
"My Biggest Flops Are Your Greatest Hits"
-Eminem.
In glad that Pat is starting to get mainstream attention. His show is truly the best one by FAR. All these shows are so complacent and stuck in their ways, and Pat is absolutely slaughtering the game!
I’m so happy as a Green Bay fan that we have one of the best players to ever play in the NFL
This is exactly how I feel as a Rams fan about Aaron Donald.
Savage AF🔥🔥🔥
Stephen A looks pissed he never got to talk to arron Rodgers like them 😂
when McAfee started flexing I was done LOL
Gotta Love Pat's reaction... Down year: equates to a 13-3 record and making it to the NFC championship game... he is right
I searched up confidence and it showed me Aaron Rodgers
Was he lying tho?? 🤷🏾♂️
nope
Thank you Stephen A for laying on the due respect... I was about to punch my computer screen after listening to Skip B's ignorant condescending take. My faith in humanity has been restored
Stephen A face at the beginning of the video😂😂😂
“It’s a little defensive actually,” nah again he’s being taken out of context, which is ironically what Rodgers was talking about when he made the comment.
“Jordan didn’t have off years”. Oh. I forgot he only played 6 seasons
i so LOL at this comment ... everyone is forgetting the years before his championships started. its been more than 6 years.
He played 15 seasons bruh
He’s obviously talking about his stats. He didn’t really have any off years
MEGA flex from The Baaaaddd Man.
I'm popping corn waiting for Skip's response.
Pat and the boys podcast making waves 🌊💪
Ok let em hang then Mr Rodgers ! 👍🏾👍🏾😂🤣🤣🤣
I’m an eagles fan but my favorite player off my own team for the past 10 years has always been Aaron Rodgers, dudes a straight assassin and one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play id put him top 5 at least
I’ve said this over the last 7 years man. His defense is his offense and have always had to our score opponents when the defense couldn’t help the team out in getting stops.
I don’t blame Rodgers or Russ for promoting themselves. They’re both better than Mahomes! The hype surrounding Mahomes and Jackson is nauseating, and somewhat undeserved.
Yes, they were arguably deserving of their MVP’s (Jackson more than Mahomes), but when you begin to dissect Mahomes’s best year (2018) and compare it to Brees’s 2018 and Russ’s 2018, and control for certain statistics (like pass attempts), Mahomes isn’t killing the league.
*COMPARE ROOKIE AND 2017 YEARS*
In a side-by-side comparison with Russ, what can Mahomes hang his hat on? He sat the bench behind Alex Smith as a rookie in 2017.
Russ started as a true rookie and nearly led his team, which had gone 7-9 each of the two prior seasons (part of a four-year, 24-42 record) to the NFC Championship game, and a possible Super Bowl, that year.
In Russ’s actual 2017, he broke Tom Brady’s NFL record for total offense, accounting for nearly 90% of the Seahawks’ offense. FK Blair Walsh torpedoed what would have been a 13-3 record into a 9-7 record by missing 4 in-range, game-winning FGA’s. In either case, Mahomes loses.
*COMPARE 2018 AND SECOND YEARS*
I know for a fact that the only difference between Mahomes and Russ in 2018 was 11 pass attempts per game. Control for that disparity in pass attempts, and three of Russ’s volume metrics (Yards, TD’s and INT’s) change.
Russ’s 2018 stats: 427 Attempts (26 A/G), *3,448* Yards, *35* TD’s, 12.2 TD’s per Attempt, *7* INT’s, 66.5% Complete%, and a 111+ Passer Rating.
With the additional 11 attempts?
Russ has *4,803* Yards, *49.432* TD’s, *9.8* INT’s, 66.5% Complete%, and a 111+ Passer Rating.
Mahomes’s stat-line: 593 Attempts, 5,093 Yards, 50 TD’s, 12 INT’s, 66.0% Complete%, and a 113 Passer Rating.
If you want the actual calculations I can provide them to you.
Understand what this is telling you. For the number of attempts Russ took, he was every bit as productive and efficient as Mahomes, and he did it with a run-first offense, a porous O-Line, an injured Doug Baldwin, and no DK Metcalf!
Mind you, Russ also schooled Mahomes in a prime-time head-to-head battle - one of four prime-time losses Mahomes suffered in 2018.
So Mahomes’s 2018 MVP year is statistically neutralized by Russ’s performance from that same year, which was completely overlooked because the voters can’t do simple algebra!
Let me remind you that Mahomes walked into a team that had a combined 42-24 record over the prior four years (the exact opposite of Russ’s situation, noted above), and was a Super Bowl contender, taking over for a consensus top-100 player in Alex Smith.
Russ in his own second year led his team to the Super Bowl. People love to credit the LoB and Marshawn Lynch and day that Russ didn’t have to do much.
THATS A LIE!!!
Russ had taken over a team that had twice gone 7-9 with the LoB and a Lynch before he was drafted, and in one of those years, former a Super a Bowl and Pro Bowl QB Matt Hasslebeck was under center.
So this notion that Russ was just along for the ride is ridiculous. Go back and review his performances. He was a game-manager for all of about three games early in his rookie year, and that was by design.
In his first two years he broke Peyton Manning’s rookie TD record, and did it with about 50 fewer pass attempts, and led the league in game-winning drives. He also remained undefeated vs. Super Bowl winning QB’s Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rothlisberger, and both Manning Brothers, all of whom were in their primes or at least at the top of their games back then.
*COMPARE 2019’s AND THEIR YEAR-3’s*
He won a Super Bowl!
Mahomes sat out for at least two games after struggling against the Colts, who seemed to have found the combination to neutralizing him.
He led his team to the Super Bowl, where he played like garbage for three quarters until waking up in the 4th Brady-style...or Russ-style! 👏🏾
Good for him.
Russ, who has still never missed a single game or start in his entire career, flat outplayed Mahomes on the season.
Russ remained the MVP favorite until late season, when Lamar Jackson began stringing together ridiculous performances against the Patriots, Rams and 49ers.
Russ put together another ridiculously efficient season, and came within a heartbeat of making the NFC title game. His O-Line was still not improved, and in fact ranked as low as #30 in some estimates.
Russ’s actual year-3 was epic for a number of reasons. First, he extended his record vs. Super Bowl winning QB’s to 10-0, and it would have gone to 11-0 if not for one play!
That season, Russ began divorce proceedings against his unfaithful wife, fought through a locker room in discord - including a cancerous Percy Harvin, who had to be shipped out, and inched his way towards becoming the second-highest rated passer in NFL history (behind Aaron Rodgers).
Russ remains in the #2 spot to this day. He also had more game-winning drives over his first three years, and in his third year, than any other active QB at the time.
As if that weren’t enough, he rushed for 849 yards, becoming the first QB since Michael Vick to pass for 2,700 yards and rush for 500+ yards.
Despite the locker room and off-the-field turmoil, Russ led the Seahawks back to the Super Bowl, and outplayed Tom Brady during the game only to have a certain win snatched from him and his entire team by an incompetent Offensive Coordinator and a weak receiver who failed to catch a perfectly thrown pass!
Everyone knows that, if the Seahawks simply hand the ball to Beast Mode, or let Russ throw to the back corners of the end zone, the Seahawks nail their second consecutive Super Bowl.
How would that have changed history? Would Richard Sherman and ET have become bitter and toxic locker room presences?
Would Kam Chancellor and Michael Bennett have tried to hold out at the beginning of the 2015 season, which put Russ behind Cam Newton in the MVP race? Would Beast Mode have faked an injury, sat out, and then come back rusty at the end of 2015-16, only to fake-retire his way out of Seattle? He had some years left in him.
How many more Super Bowl appearances might the Seahawks have racked up before Mahomes even got into the league? My guess is potentially four!
Again, context matters. Russ accomplished all of his feats with a team that relied on an overrated defense prone to late-game letdowns, a poor-to-below-average O-Line at best, an unstable RB position and mostly average receivers.
Bruh.. Lol
It’s hilarious how in that same interview Aaron was talking about how the media looks too deeply into quotes and makes things out of nothing, and here max is claiming that this quote shows Aaron’s trying to be overly defensive about his play.
Molly swear she got bars lmao queue Beyoncé (QB). The mic is on fire right now lmao.
“All different kinds of things” - Max 3x 😂😂😂 1:05
LOL
All diffrent kinds of things.
SAS is 100% when he says we'll miss him when he's gone. Rodgers is a legend. Not just because he's got a Super Bowl. He's a star. Look at some of the most influential sports stars in recent history. He doesn't just win...he's memorable. He's entertaining. He has a personality. People remember MJ not just because he won titles, but because he was a star. People remember Dale Earnhardt not just because he was a champion 7 times over...he was a star. It doesn't matter if Rodgers doesn't get another SB. He's a star and he will be remembered as one of the most lethal and smart QB's in history.
No Max, MJ had off years too. Wizards years happened and count whether you want to believe it or not
wizards years at 42 43 years old and he still averaged 23ppg and was allstar...not an off year and the problem was the bums he played with not him
Facts
“Off-year” meaning below standard (at least with respect to expectations) during one’s prime.
MJ’a Wizards years were retirement years after his prime, not off-years. 😂
feereel He was 38 and 39...
@@zct1393 same thing
Yes! Compare my boy Rodgers vs that pure thrash called SAK Prescott!
the last time Aaron Rodgers had a receiving core any where near like Pat Mahomes does now he won the super bowl and the following year went 15-1. that’s all i gotta say
Good to see The Pat McAfee Show getting even more mainstream coverage
The GOAT 🐐
I love that mcafees show is getting the love/the money from national broadcasting
I remember watching this yesterday on McAfees channel and I knew when I was watching it’d show up on first take.
Steven A with a great take, good to see a legend back on top of his game
Dak Prescott > Aaron Rodgers
bruh
are u stupid or stupid
Still time to delete.
@@mubaraqadedayo7616 Garbage time matters
Its not to late to delete this
A-Rod is looking RELAXED and so CHILL!!! GO PACK GO!!!
When he said that I thought of Prescott lol
When he said that line, I knew that it’d be a story on shows like this
I love mahomes, but Andy Reed is one of the best coaches ever. He developed him, but he also keeps supporting him. The system builds the system.
He’s right. It’s like the year KD first joined the Warriors and Curry’s 3-pt% was hovering around 40% after being higher the year before. Most players would take being at 40% from 3
How many times is Max going to say "That goes without saying'???? STOOGE!!!!
Last year was not an off year, 4000 yards, a bunch of touchdowns, only 4 picks, and a 13-3 season. Back off the guy
Rodgers with the Larry Holmes jab...lol
This is one of the best receinvg cores I have seen since their 2010-2011-2012 Years.
Greg Jennings
Jordy Nelson
Donald Driver
James Jones
Randall Cobb
Jermichael Finley
Now
Devante Adams
Allen Lazard
MVS
Robert Tonyan
Mercedes Lewis
Jamall Williams
Aaron Jones
Lawrence Iacona His current cast isn’t in the same league but they do have a stronger running game now
All those receivers in both years wouldn’t be anything without Rogers
Blake Scott I disagree. Donald Driver was a baller. So was Greg Jennings. I believe Jordy could’ve been good without Rodgers but he was too banged by the time he left GB
@@Jay.on.Chills They had favre too....They were also a product of favre,Driver was good but he never made 1st team all pro with favre but Antonio freeman did with favre but was trash with eagles.Even Javon Walker best season with favre trumps any year donald driver had with favre.Jordy wasn't to bang up when he came back and led the NFL in receiving touchdowns with Rodgers in 2016 and also balling the first 4 games until Rodgers got hurt and he was nowhere to be found.
Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays!! SO MUCH BETTER THAN ESPN
NO QB IN NFL HISTORY OTHER THAN RODGERS has thrown for 4,000 yards, more than 25 TD's, and less than 5 INT's in an NFL season. He did that last year. Suck it. And here's another thing: I GUARANTEE that Rodger's will be the ONLY NFL QB to throw for 400 TD's before throwing 100 INT's for as long as the NFL exists. He WILL do it (that's an absolute given), but It will NEVER happen again. Yes, he's THAT amazing. It's a record that will NEVER be broken, EVER.