- Zeus Scaling Anime: Record of Ragnarök Manga: Shuumatsu no Walküre -> Tier It is said by Shiva that Zeus Adamantū is able to destroy the heavens with his fists alone; probably stating that Zeus doesn't even need to use his Sacred Treasure forged in Paradise. Later, specifically in Chapter 50, it is said by Hades that the sky is divided into three layers, being Valhalla (Heaven), Midgard (Universe) and Hellheim (Underworld); this would be a power equivalent to Low-Complex Multiversal, see what VSBattle says about this level, after that I will explain it to you. Low 1-C: Low Complex Multiverse level Characters or objects that can affect, create and/or destroy the entirety of spaces whose size corresponds to one to two higher levels of infinity greater than a standard universal model (Low 2-C structures, in plain English.) In terms of "dimensional" scale, this can be equated to 5 and 6-dimensional real coordinate spaces (R^5 to R^6) Valhalla is described as a layer of existence higher than Midgard and Hellheim, being two space-time continumms, as Midgard is the representation of our Universe, and Hellheim is the representation of the Underworld; and it is said to be a space-time infinity in the official guidebook of Shuumatsu no Walküre. Valhalla is a metaphysical plane, which transcends the physical nature of objects, as any physical object is subject to linear time, which occurs on three-dimensional matter, something metaphysical is beyond linear time, and another proof that Valhalla is beyond time itself is the simple fact that living or non-living beings are not subject to time, as Adam and Eve were not able to age in Paradise (Garden of Eden), if the effects of linear time do not occur in Valhalla and its dimensions, it is certainly a 5-D Realm, being beyond linear time. -> Dimensionality As shown just above, Valhalla is a Metaphysical Realm; which transcends linear time and the physical nature of objects, Zeus being a supreme deity who resides in Valhalla, would certainly be a 5-Dimensional character, as his origin is situated in a Realm of this dimensional scale. -> Speed Right at the beginning of Round 2 of Ragnarök, Zeus was already shown to be able to surpass light numerous times, and his speed kept growing exponentially; showing that he possesses a possible Infinite Acceleration, as he is able to "expand" his speed infinitely, but we're talking about Zeus off his peak and playing with Adam, now we'll take the speed issue too far. Zeus using a mastered technique of his Father Kronos, was said by the narrator as "Toki o Koero Ken" which means something like Fist that Transcends Time, and this is no exaggeration, taking into account that Zeus defeated time itself personified, time itself in person.... Kronos. Knowing that that technique possesses enough power to overcome time itself personified, we can certainly claim that Zeus possesses Immeasurable Speed. Just to be clear, this idea that "Fist that Overcame Time" is just the name of the technique came from the anime, in the original manga the narrator just states that that technique is known as the Fist that Overcame Time because Zeus overcame his Father Kronos using his own technique; the only thing referred to the name of such an ability is when Hermes asks himself saying, will he use "that technique"? And yes, the quotation marks are present in Hermes' lines... and before you come talking about the 0.0000000000000000000000000000... seconds, the end of those numbers is not shown in either the manga or the anime, and know that post comma places can be infinite or not, and taking into consideration that that technique can surpass time itself in person, it's not at all surprising Zeus transcended space-time. These feats of Zeus alone would surely leave thousands of fictional characters in the dust, but we have another Scaling; Zeus after using his Adamantū form, it is said by the narrator that Zeus condenses all his energy and releases it in one attack, I don't even need to say that if Zeus Adamantū uses all his energy in each attack, he is clearly superior to the Fist that Overcame Time, because the Fist that Overcame Time requires a certain amount of Zeus' energy, the technique does not require all his energy, different from the True Right/Left of the Gods. Another detail that many miss, is the simple fact that after the 0.0000000000000000000000000000... seconds and Zeus' final transformation, the time count stopped; and not even Hermes who was able to see Zeus moving using the Fist that Outlasted Time, was not able to see Zeus Adamantū and Adam's attacks, and no, Zeus Adamantū does not possess Irrelevant Speed, he is only superior to an ordinary Immeasurable Speed, for example: Character A is a 5-Dimensional character who transcends linear four-dimensional time, possessing an Immeasurable Speed; but Character B sees Character A as a moving turtle, he does not possess an Irrelevant Speed, he only possesses a 6-D Immeasurable Speed, which is above Character A's 5-D Immeasurable Speed. -> Hax Superhuman Physical Features, Biological Manipulation, Status Amplification, Temporal Transcendence, Soul Manipulation, Space-Time Manipulation, Abstract Existence, Fear Induction, Infinite Acceleration, Immeasurable Longevity, Immortality, Damage Denial, Durability Denial, Existential Erasure, Denial of Immortality, Energy Manipulation, Transformation, Martial Arts Mastery, Residual Images, Invulnerability, Pseudo-Oniscience, Body Manipulation, Analytical Foresight, Heightened Senses, Spirit Manipulation, Creation, Matter Manipulation, Destruction. *Conclusion* Tier: Low-Complex Multiversal. Dimensional: 5-D / 6-D. Speed: Immensurable. Adam scaling with Zeus.
I agree except the verse being Complex Multiversal in order for a verse to have Complex Multiversal it has to have infinite Multiverses or Infinite in size which the ROR verse is not I actually double checked all the chapters and their was nothing their to provide an infinite size universe meaning it's not Complex Multiversal (1-C) it's Multiversal (2-B)
@@RedEditz7 Hellheim is said to possess infinite space-time in the guidebook, but unfortunately I could only find the scan with the guidebook in hand. Destroying infinite space-time continuums would be 2-A Multiversal+; destroying infinite Multiverses or infinite infinite universes would be Long Multiversal, when a character has a power above Quadri-Dimensional, but still doesn't get to be 5-D. As Valhalla is a Metaphysical Realm that encompasses souls, it is not subject to linear time and the physical nature of objects, being 5-D for being Metaphysical and encompassing souls, another proof of this is that Adam and Eve don't age in Paradise, but they age after being expelled from Valhalla and go to Midgard; but this is just my opinion, if you want to agree or disagree, that's your right.
@@RedEditz7 Scan about what? If it's about Valhalla being a Metaphysical Realm, it's in Chapter 50 (ML Manga) when Hades states that souls are taken to Valhalla. If it's about the guidebook, unfortunately I can't send it to you; because I could only find this scan with the guidebook in hand. If it is about destroying Infinite Universes or Infinite Multiverses not being Low-Complex Multiversal, I could only find it on the Crossverse Wiki BR site (Brazilian).
@@RedEditz7 I just remembered about another argument that proves Valhalla 5-D, and that is the fact that Valhalla houses souls; souls are a minimally 5-D concept, because they transcend the Metaphysical Spirit, which is 4-D.
How would Adam match up against pegasus seiya from saint seiya I wonder. Side note if your knowledgeable about seiya got to ask when he an the gang are in elysium and gain god armor isn't that them at mastered 8th sense not really god level since athenaeum and hades are above them in power with ninth sense?
So I did some research on Pagasus Seiya and I will make a Video on him in at least three days to bring the overall conclusion all I can say currently is that he is high 3-A!
@@Midlletrack-Top-Fan Yes I know what you talking about! Zeus's father Cronos was the personification of time who controls time itself and Zeus defeated Cronos and now he is literally above time!
@@JA01139 Hellheim has a quote in the guidebook as being infinite space-time; but I can't send you that scan. However, I can prove to you that both three realms are infinite in expansion, taking into account the fact that Zeus claims to have witnessed the Big Bang, in this case, the creation of Midgard... if you know the Big Bang theory, then you have a sense of why Midgard is infinite in expansion. Both three realms are similar in size, as can be seen in Chapter 50 (ML Manga).
Why is Heaven low multi you didnt explain that and you didnt show evidence that destroying Heaven also means destroying its spacetime and 3 layers doesnt equal 3 seperate spacetimes
You "copy" my arguments 🗿🗿?
Fax+W
Yes I actually used your comment but I had lost your name and forgot in which video you were so I couldn't give credit 😅 but I'll pin ya!
@@RedEditz7 Thanks, you can use any of my comments that you find out there; no need to credit me, but I appreciate it if it is possible.
- Zeus Scaling
Anime: Record of Ragnarök
Manga: Shuumatsu no Walküre
-> Tier
It is said by Shiva that Zeus Adamantū is able to destroy the heavens with his fists alone; probably stating that Zeus doesn't even need to use his Sacred Treasure forged in Paradise. Later, specifically in Chapter 50, it is said by Hades that the sky is divided into three layers, being Valhalla (Heaven), Midgard (Universe) and Hellheim (Underworld); this would be a power equivalent to Low-Complex Multiversal, see what VSBattle says about this level, after that I will explain it to you.
Low 1-C: Low Complex Multiverse level
Characters or objects that can affect, create and/or destroy the entirety of spaces whose size corresponds to one to two higher levels of infinity greater than a standard universal model (Low 2-C structures, in plain English.) In terms of "dimensional" scale, this can be equated to 5 and 6-dimensional real coordinate spaces (R^5 to R^6)
Valhalla is described as a layer of existence higher than Midgard and Hellheim, being two space-time continumms, as Midgard is the representation of our Universe, and Hellheim is the representation of the Underworld; and it is said to be a space-time infinity in the official guidebook of Shuumatsu no Walküre. Valhalla is a metaphysical plane, which transcends the physical nature of objects, as any physical object is subject to linear time, which occurs on three-dimensional matter, something metaphysical is beyond linear time, and another proof that Valhalla is beyond time itself is the simple fact that living or non-living beings are not subject to time, as Adam and Eve were not able to age in Paradise (Garden of Eden), if the effects of linear time do not occur in Valhalla and its dimensions, it is certainly a 5-D Realm, being beyond linear time.
-> Dimensionality
As shown just above, Valhalla is a Metaphysical Realm; which transcends linear time and the physical nature of objects, Zeus being a supreme deity who resides in Valhalla, would certainly be a 5-Dimensional character, as his origin is situated in a Realm of this dimensional scale.
-> Speed
Right at the beginning of Round 2 of Ragnarök, Zeus was already shown to be able to surpass light numerous times, and his speed kept growing exponentially; showing that he possesses a possible Infinite Acceleration, as he is able to "expand" his speed infinitely, but we're talking about Zeus off his peak and playing with Adam, now we'll take the speed issue too far. Zeus using a mastered technique of his Father Kronos, was said by the narrator as "Toki o Koero Ken" which means something like Fist that Transcends Time, and this is no exaggeration, taking into account that Zeus defeated time itself personified, time itself in person.... Kronos. Knowing that that technique possesses enough power to overcome time itself personified, we can certainly claim that Zeus possesses Immeasurable Speed. Just to be clear, this idea that "Fist that Overcame Time" is just the name of the technique came from the anime, in the original manga the narrator just states that that technique is known as the Fist that Overcame Time because Zeus overcame his Father Kronos using his own technique; the only thing referred to the name of such an ability is when Hermes asks himself saying, will he use "that technique"? And yes, the quotation marks are present in Hermes' lines... and before you come talking about the 0.0000000000000000000000000000... seconds, the end of those numbers is not shown in either the manga or the anime, and know that post comma places can be infinite or not, and taking into consideration that that technique can surpass time itself in person, it's not at all surprising Zeus transcended space-time. These feats of Zeus alone would surely leave thousands of fictional characters in the dust, but we have another Scaling; Zeus after using his Adamantū form, it is said by the narrator that Zeus condenses all his energy and releases it in one attack, I don't even need to say that if Zeus Adamantū uses all his energy in each attack, he is clearly superior to the Fist that Overcame Time, because the Fist that Overcame Time requires a certain amount of Zeus' energy, the technique does not require all his energy, different from the True Right/Left of the Gods. Another detail that many miss, is the simple fact that after the 0.0000000000000000000000000000... seconds and Zeus' final transformation, the time count stopped; and not even Hermes who was able to see Zeus moving using the Fist that Outlasted Time, was not able to see Zeus Adamantū and Adam's attacks, and no, Zeus Adamantū does not possess Irrelevant Speed, he is only superior to an ordinary Immeasurable Speed, for example: Character A is a 5-Dimensional character who transcends linear four-dimensional time, possessing an Immeasurable Speed; but Character B sees Character A as a moving turtle, he does not possess an Irrelevant Speed, he only possesses a 6-D Immeasurable Speed, which is above Character A's 5-D Immeasurable Speed.
-> Hax
Superhuman Physical Features, Biological Manipulation, Status Amplification, Temporal Transcendence, Soul Manipulation, Space-Time Manipulation, Abstract Existence, Fear Induction, Infinite Acceleration, Immeasurable Longevity, Immortality, Damage Denial, Durability Denial, Existential Erasure, Denial of Immortality, Energy Manipulation, Transformation, Martial Arts Mastery, Residual Images, Invulnerability, Pseudo-Oniscience, Body Manipulation, Analytical Foresight, Heightened Senses, Spirit Manipulation, Creation, Matter Manipulation, Destruction.
*Conclusion*
Tier: Low-Complex Multiversal.
Dimensional: 5-D / 6-D.
Speed: Immensurable.
Adam scaling with Zeus.
I agree except the verse being Complex Multiversal in order for a verse to have Complex Multiversal it has to have infinite Multiverses or Infinite in size which the ROR verse is not I actually double checked all the chapters and their was nothing their to provide an infinite size universe meaning it's not Complex Multiversal (1-C) it's Multiversal (2-B)
@@RedEditz7 Hellheim is said to possess infinite space-time in the guidebook, but unfortunately I could only find the scan with the guidebook in hand. Destroying infinite space-time continuums would be 2-A Multiversal+; destroying infinite Multiverses or infinite infinite universes would be Long Multiversal, when a character has a power above Quadri-Dimensional, but still doesn't get to be 5-D. As Valhalla is a Metaphysical Realm that encompasses souls, it is not subject to linear time and the physical nature of objects, being 5-D for being Metaphysical and encompassing souls, another proof of this is that Adam and Eve don't age in Paradise, but they age after being expelled from Valhalla and go to Midgard; but this is just my opinion, if you want to agree or disagree, that's your right.
@@Sr.ZeusApns that's actually really cool can you give me the link to that. Scan?
@@RedEditz7 Scan about what? If it's about Valhalla being a Metaphysical Realm, it's in Chapter 50 (ML Manga) when Hades states that souls are taken to Valhalla. If it's about the guidebook, unfortunately I can't send it to you; because I could only find this scan with the guidebook in hand. If it is about destroying Infinite Universes or Infinite Multiverses not being Low-Complex Multiversal, I could only find it on the Crossverse Wiki BR site (Brazilian).
@@RedEditz7 I just remembered about another argument that proves Valhalla 5-D, and that is the fact that Valhalla houses souls; souls are a minimally 5-D concept, because they transcend the Metaphysical Spirit, which is 4-D.
🤓☝️AdAm iS oNlY cItY lEvEl☝️🤓
Also w scaling
Thanks bro!
@@RedEditz7 Nice profile🗿🍷
@@Zenkai405yours as well 🗿🍷
@@RedEditz7 Adam🤝Adam🗿
And people think Saitama and Garou can beat Adam 😑 bruh their too delusional!
Yes! Saitama and Cosmic Garou are Solar level at best!
How would Adam match up against pegasus seiya from saint seiya I wonder. Side note if your knowledgeable about seiya got to ask when he an the gang are in elysium and gain god armor isn't that them at mastered 8th sense not really god level since athenaeum and hades are above them in power with ninth sense?
So I did some research on Pagasus Seiya and I will make a Video on him in at least three days to bring the overall conclusion all I can say currently is that he is high 3-A!
Bro did Zeus Transcend Conceptual Space-time If so then Adam is Outerversal
I don't think Transcending Space-Time is Outerversal but yes Adam does Transcends Space-Time!
@@RedEditz7 not Space-time Conceptual Space-time which is the very Concept of Space and Time 🤔
@@Midlletrack-Top-Fan Yes I know what you talking about! Zeus's father Cronos was the personification of time who controls time itself and Zeus defeated Cronos and now he is literally above time!
@@Midlletrack-Top-Fan but you can't just say he is Outerversal as The Cosmology of ROR isn't Outer!
@@RedEditz7 that maybe true i am just wondering
Who should I scale next from Record of Ragnarok?
Dude.. share the heavens and hell infinite size proof
@@JA01139 sorry dude it turns out that that wasn't Infinite so I'll change my comment! Thanks for reminding me bro to Change my Comment!
Hajun
@@Sr.ZeusApns alright!
@@JA01139 Hellheim has a quote in the guidebook as being infinite space-time; but I can't send you that scan. However, I can prove to you that both three realms are infinite in expansion, taking into account the fact that Zeus claims to have witnessed the Big Bang, in this case, the creation of Midgard... if you know the Big Bang theory, then you have a sense of why Midgard is infinite in expansion.
Both three realms are similar in size, as can be seen in Chapter 50 (ML Manga).
Why is Heaven low multi you didnt explain that and you didnt show evidence that destroying Heaven also means destroying its spacetime
and 3 layers doesnt equal 3 seperate spacetimes