Joe Budden DEFENDS Ice against FANS saying HES TRASH! & Emanny gets EMOTIONAL!
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Joe Budden DEBATES Rory & Mal vs NEW CAST!? "The show is bigger than it ever was"!
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Ice is not a podder, he’s a friend of the show ,literally 😂
lmao thats a bar
Which is why Emanny saying that simply based on the fact that Ice is on the pod, that this somehow makes Ice a better broadcaster than others, or better than the people who criticize him. Ice is on the pod based on his relationship with Joe. It’s not like Ice came to the pod with an expertise, and just because you are on the pod doesn’t make you an elite podcaster. I’ve always said Ice’s “i’m not a podcaster” stance was just a built in excuse to shield him from criticism!
@@OZORIAMEDIAbrother it is NEVER that deep. Just stop listening to the pod.
@@angelusgnz5784Not sure what makes you think that it is serious at all. I’m commenting on a video that is analyzing the podcast. As for not listening, I certainly don’t listen to it, the way I did the previous iteration, but when I do listen, Ice is not good! It’s not a myth, or a fan narrative!
Ice is just like rellyonsmash, talked all that shit on Twitter but when you put a mic in his face he’s trash and wanna be PC
Gotta look him up lol
MAAAAAN!!!!!!! I been saying this…a lotta those folks from the golden era of Black Twitter were great on Twitter but then when they got a mic or a camera in front of them (Charlemagne’s first VH1 show) they were terrible. Other than Tax, most proved not to be as entertaining when they weren’t typing.
@@TheStop he was fab #1 Stan, him and ice was the presidents of Black Twitter
@@Manchild79 can’t forget desus & mero also
Them: "Ice don't bother nobody"
Ice: Trolls rappers, artists, black women, etc for 10+ years on Twitter for absolutely no reason
How can you expect people to go easy on you when you when you become a public figure but you attacked people for years who weren't bothering you at all? And thought it was funny.
Karma always does her thing.
It’s no fun when the 🐇 has the gun
damn....
@@chirptr3ydem640Facts
This is absolutely correct and I don't feel sorry for him either
@@jayhova201I don’t either
They gonna defend Ice because they gotta protect the weak link so it doesn't get compromised.
valid point
@TheStop Thanks. It don't seem like it but I agree with you way more than I don't.
That but also ICE don’t argue about contracts or money. So Joe is gonna defend him. Notice how it is only Joe defending ice.
@Lightsk1nkeith Yea I do. But we all have that guy in the friend group that u gonna defend because outside his people he ain't shit. The ugly friend, dirty friend, slow friend but we love him. Outsiders don't. He thinks he does a good job, so he'll never get better
Bingo
Emmany is always emotional but claims he’s not 😂😂😂
thats what makes him hilarious 😂
That’s also true
Yep very emotional
Yea he needs to leave
@@BLhoops111Danny doesn't tell none of them about their life tho. He critiques their podcast and how they behave on it.
Ice must know all of Joe's deepest and darkest secrets because it makes no sense
That’s his mans his mans with the secrets
Ice is the guy who always on time but not good at the job
@@rhetoric3701 😂😂😂😂😂
He is not that bad dude come on.
Danny vs Emmany need a pod by itself 😂😂
Super off brand Everyday Struggle, "Daily Tension"
@@TheStop😂
Danny is a menace to JBP. At this point
Menace Ent
ICE is the weakest link. I don’t believe Ice would be missed if he were to leave the pod.
he wouldnt be lol
Nah its Flip, Joe will get rid of him first if anyone
I honestly forget Ice is even on the show.
he forgettable
On the last patreon ice left the room for like 30 minutes & when he came back I was genuinely surprised. The rest of that cast is so much more entertaining that he can leave the room for half an hour and nobody would even notice…….shows how little he contributes to the pod of your presence isn’t even noticed to begin with lol
In the spirit of bare minimum, are we ignoring the fact that Joe listed the entire cast except for the one person in question as a “performer” 😂
he know he just dont wanna admit it
he said ish not a performer either
@@ikelove2324Joe is jealous of Ish and his new profound success….that’s why he said Ish is not a performer.
It’s unbelievable that this CZcams channel causes this much stress for the bigger platform. If they really dont care, like they say they dont, I don’t even see why they communicate with you at all. These videos must keep them up at night lol
lol, yea its quite interesting
It’s ego. They love to know that there’s someone doing this much “science” on them.
Facts.
It’s effecting the pod too
They wouldn’t be fighting so hard if you weren’t poking them in a sore spot.
THATS A FACT!
@@TheStop that’s not a fact, it’s a possible reason. Another possible reason is they’re tired of someone taking cheap shots at someone who has shown significant progress. Even in your videos, you admit ice is getting better.
I don't see how Ice is getting better??? They don't EVER ask him for his take, they never joke with him, they cut him off & never circle back.. I wish they would jus mute him when he talks
Ayoooooo pause
@@LovingtrollIce went from trash to mid in a 2+ year span congratulations. If he left the pod today nobody would care
What is the difference between Joe making up narrative and the Fans doing it? This ain’t Ice’s dream, Emanny.
great point
lol Emanny got too much dip on his chip… bro done 20 episodes 😂😂😂
he student of the game lol
Emanny loud and wrong.
Eeeeemotttional
they defend him like hes a child looooooooooool keep going danny
we got em lol
YALL FATHER 😂😂😂
Everything Joe said was facts, you don’t say nothing of optimism, nothing positive it’s like just pure judging negatively, and they make up your CZcams smh.
They’re literally on a podcast talking about other ppl for a living but they get mad when someone talks about them? Stupidity
them podders mad
The crazy part is ice being the neutral member of the cast that balances the Crew. Emmay is just a tool joe uses when he losing an argument, exclusively wit Ish.😂😂😂
you called emanny a tool lol
The iPad being a part of Ice’s pod persona when they stay getting mad shit wrong just plays into everything they’re whining about.
lol that i pad didnt do anything
Joe lets his friendship with Ice cloud his judgement on Ice’s ability to add to the pod.
Nobody hates on Ice, we just think someone else could fill the spot better.
exactly
🎯
Queenzflip already did.
Couldn’t have said it better myself
HE thinks someone else would be better on the pod. The same way he claims women be in his ear about how much better of a job they could do than Mel. I’m sure Joes sentiments are the same.
He’s gotten better = stopped started sentences and then ending them half way through and saying “ nevermind”
exactoly!
I hate that shit😂
This comment is spot on
He still be doing that goofy shit
Ice is literally the friend they can't joke on. They wouldn't agree with you on that just cause they know they can't keep it real when it comes to him💯
its so obvious lol
Do we really expect Joe to say that there’s a member of his staff that’s not a good performer instead of admitting it and acknowledging that someone is trash? Cmon now 🙄
true
Facts
regardless how you feel about Ice, your work still benefits the pod as a whole. they wouldn’t be doing these twitter spaces to keep up the conversation if it didn’t.
Salute and appreciate it!
THEY GAVE HIM AN IPAD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ITS THE FUNNIEST THING YOU SAY
i wonder if the show bought it lol
When Joe said ice took the initiative to bring the iPad 🧐 😂
Trust me, Ice gets on my nerves, but your constant criticism does feel personal. If I was ice I would be hoping to run into you!
stop cosplaying as a tough guy in the youtube comment section lol
@@TheStop lol stop being sensitive. My point was you talk about him so much that he’s gonna run down on you. A man can only take so much. No tough guy act.
@@ReppinCTandATL he has nothing else to talk about because it's personal and this is the only thing that gets clicks on his page. Do the research
Joe calling the fans critique of Ice lazy is wild considering the fact that this podcast overall has been lazy and azz. I Always said as soon as people get money, the product becomes corny and watered down because the hunger isn't there anymore but you still have to entertain the fans and he's failing at that too.
pod been up and down lol
Ice is the company man and he is trying to improve slowly. He is their tech guy and straight man.
thats terrible lol
Danny be bombing on ice lol but mel is the most intolerable she needs to go!
i thoght m4 good last few weeks
Defending a known troll is hilarious. 😂😂😂the game is the game🤷🏾♂️
thats they mans
The fact that they ran to defend him a grown man is further proving the points
they hurt cause they agree lol
Joe, and Emanny was in they bag on that "700 Club" Spaces 💯 Joe made a few Valid points because Ice has Definitely Improved as a Podcaster‼️ While I do think he has a lot of work to do to be even better... He is Trying and My critique is that he just steps on topics when he thinks that something's too personal for him to talk about‼️He Shouldn't be like that on a Podcast like the JBP because Everybody since his inception has always been Open and Ice should Continue that Tradition 💯 I'm NOT an Ice Hater, and sometimes people can take it too far, but he is Not above Criticism from the Fans of the Pod, as long as everybody keeps it respectful 🤨
classic space lol
Ice gets rewarded for the most basic stuff lol
he shows up lol
Gives very much “look what I can do”
If Joe stops critiquing Logic, we'll stop critiquing Ice lol
we should be good lol
You're speaking facts about ice. This is the equivalent of podding about podding. Just keep doing you and you don't owe Joe anything.
thanks man appreciate it
Danny u deadass be down on Ice for no reason u gotta chill u definitely be reaching some time
meh i provide evidence lol
I love how you keep your composure. Emannys tone and emotional response can lead the conversation to go elsewhere but you constantly reiterate your points with logic and a calming demeanor
I’m glad you’re taking this route of showing things you deem as Ice being bad because without it, it does come off as personal because you do be shooting at Ice when the video don’t even have anything to do with him 😂😂
well they wanted it and they are gonna get it lol
I love that he randomly shoots at ice when the video has 0 to do with him 😂😂
@@szasremmurd8002 for awhile it was funny to me then it just started to seem like hate, then the interview thing happened and now it can be seen as personal
I def didn’t like him when he was making a few appearances, and then when they first started after Rory and Mal left. Ice grew on me he comes off as the most relatable nd I think he has the most improvement out of everyone that’s new he barely hesitate to start the topic read and or respond and give his take lately he’s come off as the most prepared as well so salute to Ice, got to give it to him.
salute to ice
I agree!
I don't know..everyone up there seem to play a part..ice usually chime in with additional info when it come to things like hip hop and pop culture..I think ya'll feel like he panders...but if there was no push back on certain things it would be an echo chamber pod like most of the pods out there. So I don't mind it..i also feel like ice is the common man of the show along with ish..everyone else is either content creator's or industry folk...like when joe say something thats out of touch with general public..ice is usually the one to correct it..thats makes more interesting..for me anyway.
i respect it but ice be meh to me
The fact that Danny has Joe on the proverbial ropes so much that Joe has to actually come out and speak up for the "Ice is a trash podder" narrative which was exposed by Danny from the stop is a major silent validation from the JBP towards DFTS. Keep em on their toes, Danny💯🤣
im digging that DFTS abbreviation 😂
I used to think Mal was the weak link. Ice makes Mal look like the Wendy Williams of pod!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mally WIlliams is sick
Everytime I listen to Ice on the podcast via audio, I feel like he’s rolling his neck every time he speaks. 😂
That’s mad funny
Bro Ice has improved but he still sucks as a Podcaster. Ice always says "nevermind" shut up and dont say it
the pod dont wanna admit it lol
Your overdoing it (RESPECTFULLY), because we ALL get how much u don't like Ice's pod skills.. your beating a dead horse CONSTANTLY.... we get it ... but u won't let it go... we might even agree , but at this point you're like Skip Bayless on Westbrook.. to the point u getting him sympathy love from fans
not that many ppl sympathetic to ice lol
@@TheStop it's still an uneasy watch to hear the 1000 ways u dislike Ice... it's Skip vs Westbrook... we get it bro , but u gotta let this one go . It does seem personal, cuz u never miss an opportunity to tlk about how bad he is ... and yo content is entertaining and fair ,outside this topic
I kinda get Joe's first point at the beginning of the video. You do bring up Ice in topics that have nothing to do with Ice. Point in case at the end of one of your videos you made a joke saying you met Bernice Burgos at the club but didn't take a picture because you didn't want people thinking y'all were together. That was a shot at when Ice said he didn't take a pic next to Mel because he didn't want people thinking anything about the two. At the end of the day, it's your content and you can do what you want but I can't blame them for if they feel like you're going out of your way to take jabs at Ice. I personally don't feel he's bad as y'all make him seem. He's not my favorite but he's just fine as a podcaster. In my personal opinion Flip is the worst one. Too many podcasts have been derailed because of him and his ego or contract talks. I'm ready for Flip to leave and do something elsewhere. But that's just my opinion.
its a bit but i believe ice is terrible
@@TheStop I understand it's a bit and I ain't even saying you haven't made some valid points at times. But I think you're leaning a lot on that bit and especially since you know it brothers Ice. It can come off as it's personal. I'm never going to say Ice is my favorite or the best but I think he's just fine as a podcaster. But I think Ice's true value on the podcast is him being a chemistry guy. Lot of podcasting is chemistry and getting along with your cohosts and given how lot of Joe's cohosts relationship have gone, it helps to have one guy on the pod that isn't going to leave you totally on an island stranded. And that can boost morale.
You can’t say that you never attacked ice when you have a video from last month taking a hot steamy shit on ice gang 😂
We're supposed to celebrate because Ice got an iPad? That's like a teacher bragging about her student because he came prepared. That's the bare minimum.
Ice is getting better so might have admit defeat soon Danny. Nothing wrong with being wrong, but there is something wrong with committing to being wrong after you know you’re wrong
@ziqaustin because if he is getting better, shouldn't that be the focus? If LeBron had a rough few years in the league, but is now one of the greatest, would it make sense to keep bringing up how he was in the beginning?
Ice is pretty solid. Never understood why ppl say he’s bad
cause theres valid reasons lol
@@TheStop yeah I watch all your vids! Salute. The things you point out are truly things he can do better on but they really don't make him trash. And he's getting better - you should probably do a vid on that too. Salute!!
they treat him like a MAKE A WISH kid that they let on the show. they don't go at him because they feel bad for this nerd. and hes too sensitive to joke with. but at the same time, danny from the stop is a nerd cut from the same cloth as ICE. thats probably why he attacks him so much, Big Diabetes sees himself in Big Ice and hates it.
JBP Ranking...
1. Joe Budden
2. Ish
3. Melissa Ford
4. Queens Flip
5. Emanny
6. Ice
7. Parks
parks higher than ice lol
Ice is too emotional coming from someone who was a twitter troll, that makes the whole thing is funny. Danny was critical of Joe, Mel and ish before they just ignore the whole thing lol
he need to study the game tapes
Ice is basically Mal enough said
Emanny is just trash I didn’t even realize he was apart of the cast I thought he was just an extra
mal better than ice
Danny we as supporters of the pod are all with you about Ice. You are doing great work and you do not make it personal. He’s not an entertainer nor a decent Podder.
Talking to Joe & Emanny on spaces you know the spin was coming.
(SCORCHED EARTH) 18:35 Mark lets you know they are purposely oblivious to Ice.
Emanny is just like Ice, he’s going to echo whatever Joe says to get the check. His sentiments were different when he wasn’t paid by Joe. (Tell The Truth) 01:30 Mark.
I’m convinced Ice has some dirt on Joe, cause this is egregious.
i remember tell the truth, emanny capping, love the stats!
I think you made valid points, Danny.....and Joe, for all intents and purposes, gave your POV some credence. Now, you should STOP going after Ice unless your criticism is relevant or has a new perspective. Continuing to go at Ice will start to turn and feel personal, petty, and obsessive.😂. Salute to facing the recipients of your critique with sincerity and standing adamant in your POV!!!
The whole pod been mid as fuck since last year. Aint got shit to do with ice. All yall overrated. 🤣🤣
Ice got a gay tape on Joe I'm convinced
JESUS lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Also Danny would be a better Podder than Ice because he actually researches shit and gives an informed indepth opinion. Ice just be there
thanks man! i appreciate it!
Id rather have Ice or Emmany AKA ( Emotional.) 🙄 Dont tip toe around Ice with criticism like they do on the podcast... The Report Card episode explains it all. 🤔👍🏽
Ice was scared
Imagine everyome go into a restaurant and tell the manager this one burger he got is bad…then he wanna argue with you about it..
lol burger beefing
4:37 "We have done you too much great business to be treated so harshly" ayo did he just son you!😂😂😂 Lemme find out you're on the payroll Danny 🤣
you the type to believe what joe says, very gullible lol
It sounds like Emanny is paying back taxes for popping Ice's gf in the past. Why tf is Emanny speaking up for Ice in the first place???😂
They don’t even think he does a good job that’s why they cut Ice off all the time and ignore him. It happens all the time
Ice is the reason they cant do a live tour, he wouldn't be able to talk over the booing 😅
I agree with Joe. I always thought ICE was pretty straight. And I like the fact his music takes are more unique and he stands on them.
When Joe said (hypothetically) "he's the worst of the best still" that was 🔥 no lies detected. Every squad has a worst 🤷🏽♂️ out of 5 everybody can't hold the number 1 spot. SOMEBODY is gonna be number 5. That's just how it goes
You def always have a negative slant when it comes to ice, your backhanded compliments for ice, although funny at times, is proof of that lol.
pray for ice lol
Would you make these videos had Ice granted you an interview ? No.
Yes; members of the pod have done spaces with me and I give my opinion off. Try again dude
Ice has grown into being a Legend, Danny wants to be Ice 💯💯💯
I think you are overdoing it. Ice does bring value to the pod. He probably the most culturally informed and versatile on the pod. He can literally speak on any topic that some the the podders can’t speak on. He can speak on sports where Flip and M4 lacks at. He brings thing up current events that most people don’t be informed in. He has good break downs on hip hop and tv series. So I don’t get the notion that ICE is not a good podders
i think you reaching to make ice look better than he is but salute
Either these are all passionate fans that claim to hate Joe and his podcast but have a takes on his podcast the second they come out or they’re just hate-watching. Either way, yall running the number up for Joe
Ice is only on the podcast with Joe bc he was Joe’s friend/tech guy who came in handy when his old cohosts dipped
pure luck lol
I just love how Joe likes to critique everybody show but he can’t take it or handle it when Danny has a comment. Keep it up Danny keep them under a microscope
thanks man, appreciate it !
Lmmfao on epsd 700 Joe asked what is everyone doing for the summer..
.
Dry Ice: says he's booked some trips ... Ish or flip is like where to??
Dry Ice: Aruba
Entire pod 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗
The writing is on the wall
How can he say it doesn't matter what the fans think... who else is listening other than the fans?
thats how he gets engagement lol
Ngl Danny you do be hard on Ice. He not as bad as you make ‘em seem
ICE IS NOT A GOOD PODCASTER POINT BLANK PERIOD!!!!!! I STOPPED LISTENING BECAUSE OF HIM….It is what it is…🤷🏿♂️
haha, yea flip had to save when it went stale
Why do you feel like you have to say he’s a bad podcaster etc every time you speak on em….we want you to stop because it’s becoming redundant
Joe said "why does Ice need to come up there and perform" you can't be serious lol. So it's just perfectly fine for Ice to suck as a podcaster. That's the opposite argument he made for Mal
thats a sick quote, didnt even catch that lol
It’s already 6 heads 4/6 are already performative in they own way sometimes ish will hop in his bag nd Emmany will hop in his bag here and there it’s no need for all of them to be performative when Rory and mal were there the pod was in a different space at that time Shit is ok in moderation never in excess all of them don’t need to be up there wildin it won’t make for a good show
I did the science and Joe basically wants to be the only one to bash that people the work for his bs podcast. In the end, fuck their feelings Danny and keep making content on about how trash they are until they fix it.
#dothescience
Ice sucks on the podcast 😂 he quick to say “ Nevermind “
I’m glad he cracked ya muffin lol leave ice alone man he not bothering nobody
he aint crack nothing, joe said ice the worst on the best and emanny was just mad. Stop the reach.
@@TheStop 😂 i just wanted a reply bro. Ice not the best but it do seem like hate
Ice is horrible. The fans been saying he suck before you even made your channel
exactly lol
Lots of Glazing going on 😂😂😂
Basically everyone is just acting. Got it!!!
they frontin for the timeline
@@TheStop Why they do that shit when Joe has said something about Ice podding.
Whatever happened to constructive criticism 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
It’s like Joe saying the new show is better than the old show and it’s clearly not . Lol
Danny they’re trying to manipulate your content. DONT LET THEM!!! Emanny really trying hard to do it. I’m glad It’s not working btw. Joe just want yes men and people that kiss butt around. Your channel is growing because you call out the bs 🤷🏾♂️
i see what they doing lol
Danny try making a video about another pod but joes give it a try. Do 2 weeks without posting content on Joe
nah lol
Or what 🧐🤣🤣🤣
@@TheStop yea your channel wouldnt last I know
I think you have a point Danny. However, I believe you need to put it in perspective. Ice may be the weakest link but he’s the weakest link on the best Podcast Network. Every team has role players. I think there is an art to playing your position and knowing you’re not the superstar.
understood but that feels like a cop out lol
@@TheStop it could be taken as that but I think you’ll come to understand one day as you progress in entrepreneurship. Everyone can’t be stars. There has to be role players in any aspect of the business plan.
Joe has to be loyal to Ice... he was there when Joe needed him the most. He trash but I understand
lol thats funny
In sorry but the worst podcaster isn’t Ice. Flip is but he’s so likeable. I think Ice isn’t likeable, which is why everyone goes so hard on him. I actually appreciate his opinions
at least flip has moments
“He’s someone who helps the pod be stabilized” - What does this even mean? Danny, you don’t have to cope or defend yourself against your own opinion. You’re right when you’re right 😂
Salute lol
“Fans just throwing out stuff to see what sticks” and Joe and nem just keep wiping and rubbing it in 😂😂… taking the bait and getting emotional
For like 10-12 straight videos you threw random shots at Ice. I don't care, but clearly there's something there no need to lie about it.
theres nothing
Ice said that SZA’s SOS album was trash. That shit was definitely a unique perspective
If he is the worst podcaster, tells & shows you that he doesn't care & his mans vouches for him then what do you do?
I honestly think it’s blasphemy that people think ice is the weakest link in the pod & not flip. I swear he finds a way to ruin every episode.
they would be better without him lol
Joe is wrong. Ice has not improved in the most important category. Likeability!! Ice has technically improved as a podcaster but all the skill is in the world doesn't make up for the point ice personality is horrible. He always has the worst take and will argue his bad take too long. He over talks like he's the certified B mic when he should be off mic. Please keep your foot on ice neck danny. I'm riding with you.
hes improved just cause he shows up lol