What Is Your Criteria For Choosing A Sperm Donor?
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She had me all the way to the very end when she hollered " and you better act right!", in context of her child knowing the sacrifices she made to bring them into the world.
Ya'll please understand, kids owe parents NOTHING for being born. For being loving, guilding, protective parents...sure. But the sheer act of birth is a decision ya'll make before the child has literally taken their 1st breath.
it was a joke.
@@TheEntrepreneuHER maybe it was a joke, but a lot of women always blaming their children for not losing their baby fat. 😄 when it was those creamy thighs that got them heated for the male organ.
@@TheEntrepreneuHER So? I'm serious.
That part. Our kids owe us nothing. Not even "acting right".
Na I owe moms everything for bringing me into this world respectfully
Thankful I grew up with my biological mom and dad in the same household 🙏🏾 last of a dying breed fr
Yeah they held it down and sounds like Dad was a great example for Mom to stay and raise a grateful son❤️
Damn you really are the last of a dying breed
Yea it’s becoming less common
100%!! I'm so grateful to have had that as well. I couldn't imagine a life without them both. They were equally critical in my upbringing.
I like Eboni as host. She is bold, intelligent, articulate, relatable and respectable. The chemistry seems to be good with the guys! I hope she can be hired on full time if she is interested!!
I definitely agree! We need Eboni as the permanent host!
She's a little too serious
As a guy watching, I completely agree with you on this as well.
Yeah, she's been great. Great, unforced chemistry between the three.
@@jackb1969serious asf all the time, we need Lala
When Charlamagne mentioned Dr Umar at the end I lost it 🤣
Hilarious
"I'd rather just go it alone"
Having money will make you think you can control everything around you, including what kind of child you'll have, and that's just so unrealistic.
what's unrealistic about raising a child alone when millions of women do it everyday🤔
@@alibravibe786 Nothing but that's wat she's speaking too. She saying that having all that money can give a false sense of control
She didn't say anything about controlling her child...she listed all the reasons she is going this route...she is not under a delusion that motherhood will be easy. There are thousands of single mothers doing a great job going at it on their own, instead of dealing with a man that will most likely leave them anyway.
She is saying she has a village.
@@KOOLBOYSC1 What are y'all even talking about control for🤦🏾♀️ she'll have the SAME control every other single mother does. What is this false narrative that's being created here😂 Geesh women choose to be single mother's everyday knowing the father won't be there and they don't have a quarter of the 💰 that Ebony does and they're fine.
Black sperm matters is a crazy statement 😂
What future say “it’s crazy but it’s true” 🤣
“Bank Black” 🔑💎
How does black sperm matter if all black sperm goes to jail or is giving black sperm to more people than just you. It's hard to get top choice of prominent black donors if the usa's black population is 13% and a high volume of mental illness in the black community.
Explain?
Black love doesn’t have to be revolutionary, it should be normal. How did we get here? Children are not commodities. This is so sad😢
Why are we normalizing the inability to have a sustained intimate relationship with another human? Not a perfect relationship but a committed one. Strange times.
Agreed
It has always been like this. Most marriages don't last. And many who are married are very unhappy, and sometimes cheating on the side. If you can do it on your own, you save yourself and your child(ren) the hassle and stress of custody battles, child support drama, baby daddy drama, etc.
@@Pou1gie1 agreed
@@Pou1gie1 just say women. Stats prove it. Women are unhappy. Women are leaving. They are the reason of the failure of the black community.
Is she normalizing or is she sharing her experience
This conversation doesn’t apply to me because I have kids: 1 adult & 1 teenager but this conversation was very insightful & interesting. My heart goes out to all who don’t have any biological children but want them. ❤
@@user-uu2fb7cd2z I get your point but I got a mother and father.Both still married but the Men in my community/tribe we my father figures. Just because a dude is there doesn't make them a "father figure" homie can be abusive or isn't really present in the kids life at all. Having kids isn't like buying a new toy I get the point it should be taken seriously if you are going to do it by yourself.
@@tonton9472 Of course you are right but this child does NOT even get the choice to have a father present because the mother has taken that away and made that choice because SHE wants to. We need to take accountability for not even thinking about the childs interests and only think about our own.
@@user-uu2fb7cd2z choice to have a father present?? 😂😂 since when does the baby have a choice in ANYTHING? Do you know how being a baby works? Being a child? Most of what happens in your youth and upbringing isn't a choice lol you're assuming the childhood can't be great with just a woman. And she could get with someone afterwards, did you forget that?
@@CB-tu1hmComprehension skills weren’t given to everyone clearly.
@@user-uu2fb7cd2z Y’all just mad because you can’t make her a single mom and instead of dealing with the stress of men, she just rather do without. Women are done😂
She said she’s going to “outsource” fatherhood for her child. I can’t believe these 2 men didn’t tell her that her black child deserves a REAL dad. SMH
The lady is 40. She waited long enough for a REAL dad for her child
@@jordanapalmer2557 waited long enough?? How you know she hasn’t been turning down all the men sent to her. Doesn’t mean she never meets good men just because she’s single
@@jordanapalmer2557 U think a childless, successful, famous woman that LOOKS👀 like her… can’t find a decent black man??? that is bullshit! She said that she didn’t want to negotiate with a man about how the child is raised! She is extremely selfish
@@teddydigitaltv6556 How about the men she desires turned her down? More likely that was the case.
@@carl5438 💯
As an egg freezer myself and a long standing fertility advocate, I absolutely love this transparency and accurate information. She’s stating facts that hopefully will help inform those on a fertility journey now and/or later. Information is powerful, and whatever choice you make is YOURS❤
same.
You can't outsource fatherhood
plain and simple. they devalue the black man. learnt behavior
I wish ALL men believed this and lived this. Until then, women must do what they have to do.
@@Pou1gie1 man stfu with that rhetoric
Yes you can.
Hey they've already made it a business.
I don't think she understands how hard it is to be a parent. Whose taking care of you if you're always focusing on your child. I know plenty of great single mothers but they are run down and exhausted. I don't wish this upon anyone.
I believe the Difference here is She’s CHOOSING to be a Single Mother. Therefore, She most likely will Not experience being Mentally Exhausted and Unhappy. I’m happy for Her and wish her the Best. 😊
@@TaTiyanaTV so true! I would never want to start my child lacking for anything! Give them the world or give it to another child already here or something geesh! Smdh!
@@TaTiyanaTVchoosing to be a single mother does not guarantee her outcome will be any different.
@@Animeforeternity691 I mean her kid starting off lacking a dad. That's pretty big. What if they want to get to know them? Gotta wait until ur 18. Lol girl ur being kinda selfish here. She just wanna make all the decisions. How is this ok please educate me ladies.
@@nblion5 IT’S. NOT. OK. 🤦🏾♀️ Sorry not sorry… like you stated she is selfish and wants to call all the shots! I didn’t once hear her say nor mention anything about a village helping her! I’m sorry but this is another feminist example of I’m educated, successful and don’t need a man! 🤷🏾♀️
This topic saddens me for blank women. I believe that black families are stronger with 2 parents together in the same house. I am a black man who desires a black wife❤
Always talk about women being selfish or that a child needs a father. But there’s never enough commentary on men being ready to be fathers or co parent in a healthy way. CTG and Nick Cannon in this very segment said they don’t know any men they could recommend. What are women supposed to do? Just wait or keep having kids with men who aren’t ready?
I wish I could give this comment thumbs up infinity! Most Black women who are doing this are educated and financially stable. They can't find a Black man (or any other kind) to marry them or settle down to have a child. Are Black women supposed to lower their standards? Are they supposed to get knocked up by a rando and hope he gets his sh#t together eventually? If BW didn't do this, there wouldn't be that many Black children raised by educated, well-off, intelligent Black women...and what future would that yield for Black people? Women are the foundation of every society and culture, so the cream of the crop should raise the children!
Nick cannon is a random broke dude?
😂😂 Envy just stupid he said "I was there for you when nobody was"
“SHE” rather go at it alone!?!? What about what the BABY needs and wants?!?! This is the problem we have today, too many people are taking a selfish approach to becoming a parent. Think about what’s best for your child prior to procreation.
This sh*t is getting spooky I’m speechless
Regardless of gender, 2 parents are always better than one. Having said that, I personally know some incredible single moms who stepped up to the plate when their deadbeat guy decided to run like a selfish coward. As a male, that’s got to be one of the most emasculating things you can do. To quote my fellow Canadian Russell Peters, be a man.
Yes when her designer child grows up and sees all her friends with fathers, women like this will see that leaving her dynasty to charity or another well deserving family member or person was the better option. We’re here to make the world a better place and it’s selfish to think it has to be kept within your lineage, we’re all Gods children.
I think it depends on the parents.. Some people were better off with just one parent, of the other were fucked up emotionally and mentally
@@Keemccray Yes, all people don’t need kids. But all kids need both parents. If you can’t start with this, do something else.
No it does matter only man an women not that other shit
Let be real...some two parent house holds ain't $hit.
What a lot of people don't realize is this is happening everyday. Some "fathers" are just that, sperm donors and are no where to be found for the emotional well being of the child. So the male figure role is outsourced to a uncle or friend. Then we judge these mothers and say they should have choose better. In this case, she observed her surroundings and decided how she wants to navigate it.
Farther trauma is real get therapy it’s not like this for all of us
The the picking are slime ah
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I'm sorry but those who don't know love shouldn't have kids. You going to raise kids who will go on to be single parents or adore toxic relationships. Listen, how about you just find a good guy and settle down. Every route is tough, just find love and settle down
This is spot on…men always say “choose better” she’s making a better choice and it still seems to be an issue.
These women treat children like accessories, like one of those little dog you keep in purses. You want a baby, get a damn husband and actually LEARN the relationship skill used to maintain a marriage and a household. This is the same chick that broke up with her fiance for quarantining with his own children so good luck to that kid she's gonna be raising cause they're gonna need years of therapy
Facts!
If she can't find a decent man at an IVF clinic to have a child with imagine in these streets.
😂😂😂
Facts! 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
She kinda contradicts herself black sperm matters but the father being apart of the child’s life doesn’t matter.
I may not have listened carefully, but I don't see a contradiction. She loves black men and wants 100% black children. She even paid extra so her children could have the opportunity to meet their father at 18, where they can forge a bond if they are willing. At this point it her life, it seems like she hasn't met anyone who wants to have kids and stick around to raise them.
Not if they are toxic and have a disdain for the mother, whether it grows into that or already present by the care of their own Mother.
@@anonmitty8250 I understand your point. But if she love black men that much love one and raise a family together. Is it that she can't find one or she made the mistake many women do and was all about her career and now the clock is ticking that's why she froze her eggs time is running out
@Abdus-Salaam Abdullah I don't know who she is, but I heard TBC say she was on one of those housewives' shows. She was in a relationship recently that didn't work. I don't know it must be hard for bw, because they are to blame for single womaness and for picking the wrong men. I think after her failed relationships and realizing probably that she doesn't have enough time to vet, she decided to bet on herself. If something goes wrong, she can blame herself.
I think career driven women want to be in relationships too. The problem probably is that they aren't feminine enough to meet some men standards, and they have been played enough to resort to work as level of comfort.
@@Muslim_Sneakerhead she did what she needed to do. So many women make the mistake and do not focus on the career and financial security and are used and abuse by men. So was searching for love but haven’t found it yet. I have a friend who dated consistently while saving herself for marring and now she is turning 36 this year and still single
This black woman want to bring another fatherless black child in America system just pure cruelty and selfishness!!!!!!
I see you are completely avoiding any discussion about the man's role in this, and instead choosing to put the onus squarely on women...interesting.
@@Pou1gie1 ,,,,,,,,, So at what point in this segment did you FN hear a BLK man was gonna play in this child's life frfr ✅ ILL WAIT ✅
She thinks just because she has the money she'll make a good parent. She's delusional. With all her fancy education she has clearly learnt nothing. A father provides leadership, discipline, and structure, something women can't do. I feel sorry for that child. He/she is going to be messed up.
We are in a time where wrong is right and right is wrong smh
I know. Too much coddling of black men on top of their inability and lack of desire to contribute positively to society. Involuntary celibacy among black men is increasing and it's unfortunately leaving black women doomed to be unpartnered. I wish black women would consider partnering outside of their race...
@@lolitafalana is it coddling and their inability to contribute or involuntary celibacy those don’t correlate. This has nothing to do with the women at all? It’s ALL on the men? …. Ok
So they want to farm black men and steal our sperm but don’t want to try to understand and be with a black man to procreate properly? Once again they want to ex us out the equation. Don’t do it men…hold your gold! 😑
And real is real
@@lolitafalana lady shutup 😂 This Eboni lady did date outside her race and still couldn't keep him. Stop that counter intelligence 🧢 you kicking
As smart as she is, she said some ignorant stuff. You think she’s just going to have a baby and raise that child without the father for 18 years and think that his absence will have no EXTREME effect on that child and her future relationship with that child? What world do y’all live in???🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
A child needs balance. Thats the problem with our community we always find away X out the man. Black sperm matters but not black fathers.
As a responsible black man I wouldn't want to just donate my sperm and have a child out there I'm not connected to.
@@theoluproject I agree
I hear you but please understand how hard it is out here for Black women to come to this decision. Eboni is almost 40 and has tried to stay committed to the Black man. It didn’t turn out well so now at her age she has no other choice. Waiting only means forgoing her dream of having a child.
@@jeanty12345 I hear ya but that’s wild as hell.. I jus can’t imagine not watching my child grow.. and love them and share our experiences in life together
Stop it, black men X themselves out.
Choosing to be a single parent is a detrimental mindset... Idc how intelligent she is... choosing to raise a child alone and put them at a societal disadvantage is irresponsible... it is proven over and over again dat a 2 parent household is better for a child
This is sad and the fact we are promoting this is insane. No child should be brought into this world intentionally into a situation like this.
Her arrogance in believing she can outsource a father figure. Just check the stats on kids from single mothers. Most likely to get pregnant and or end up in prison.
77% of black children are born oow any damn way
Thank you I am a donor consieved person and this episode was heartbreaking, I do not support sperm/egg donation
I think the kid will be ok. They would have a leg up in life unlike most ppl.
Even with a single parent money makes most things easier
Exactly, what if she dies soon after birth or within 4-9
Years, who left to raised that child. This is a very selfish act. It’s basically, I got money and I want it!
You need her as a co-host. She balances you guys out well with the intellect and relatability to increase your audience.
I agree
No she don't shes annoying
Eboni, It is refreshing to see and hear you. Intelligent, real, relatable and relevant.🌹
I am 48 years old and still wish I had grown up with a good father figure in my home. 😭
Love the conversation. Thanks for having it.
As a man I feel like Eboni moves the needle forward on this show. Everyone gels together the conversations are more fluid and mature. We already have Shaderoom, BallerAlert , and all of Twitter for the messiness. It’s time we grow up.
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With all due respect no donation for me. As a black man the only woman getting my sperm is the woman I marry.
🫂🫂🫂🥺🥺🥺❤️❤️❤️❤️🎯🎯🎯🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾
Facts.. I'm 41 no with kids and feel the same way..
That is how it should be.
They want the black sperm but not the black fathers🥴🥴….I’m keeping mines to myself
I actually like Eboni K as a host. She’s relatable , chill, I also peeped she was putting envy and charla in check when they joke on each other too much like Angela lol. Also she’s not afraid to dwell in the gossip. I also SUPRISINGLY like Jason Lee. So them two so far are good.
This is sad to be honest, she’s so beautiful & has to resort to doing this 😐
Yeah that's scary. Too educated😬😬😬
@@Forsaken860 There is nothing wrong with being educated. There is something wrong with the opposite gender and their priorities.
When ya attitude sucks in the relationship, it does not matter what you look like
Have you ever considered that she is possibly a man eater type of overbearing personality type?🤔
@@thedoctorthemasterandthegu7302 Oh women with an opinion are competition. I understand. A thinking woman is lethal. A talking woman is just dangerous. Come back from work with no furniture and she has already got a house in a whole other state. Just be careful out here with submissive women who play into your narrative and be sure to downplay other women. They understand what makes you tick so they are real game players n winners. That's all. Black women talk alot but really soft as pie. Women who choose submission are straight power players. I'm talking world championship winners😬
Great segment, I just love Eboni. She’s so real and relatable
Real pretentious and coo coo
I had a alopecia as a kid. Diagnosed with crohns at 16. Didn’t go through puberty until early 20s. I refuse to just give my sperm away. I won’t curse some stranger like that
She needs to be on the show permanently. I love her temperament and she seems to really fit in with the crew!
Single fellas stay away from these kind of women this year...
4 SIGNS of Low Value Women
1. Shame- shaming tactics against you
2. Insults- insulting you always
3. Guilting you
4. Need to be Right always
my guy got a phd in kevin samuels philosophy
Ladies...stay away from men like this... they end up dead or in jail like kevin samules or Andrew tate. NO GOOD
Yeah it's a lot of red flags with her
So true...this is why women are alone now a days!
Endless red flags
Listen!! Coparenting is HARD so going into this with an understanding that everything will be on you... I think that baby will be in great hands.
What if the intentional single mother dies shortly after the kid is born, who is the kid left with..? Is anyone even thinking about the kid who is being brought into this single parent situation without a choice?
Personally I think people should stop creating human souls for their self (ego) centered reasons (i.e life goals, ego fulfilment, coping mechanisms). A human soul is not an accolade/goal/tool for one's happiness/retirement plan etc... If one is to bring a life into this cold world it should be *for that life and into a situation that's best for that life* & last l checked, having no father is NOT what's best for a child (mentally, emotionally, spiritually, socially etc.).
Sorry but someone has to say the truth; being fatherless will be a bad experience for the child. A father's love and presence CANNOT be out sourced. That kid, if born, will be *forced* to live life with a hole in their heart & being, in the shape of their father and lord knows what they may try to fill that hole with... this is a potential disaster waiting to happen imho.
@@MylezNevison Women of Eboni's income bracket establish a trust fund & a will so that the child is financially taken care of for the rest of its life and custody of the child is already decided upon the event of the mother's death. Usually, it's the godmother or the mother's mother. What percentage of children do you know are being raised by a widowed Black father? What is a good reason to create a human?
@@MylezNevison You speak the truth. I'll add that children deserve both parents but if we had to choose, a single father is way better than a single mother for the child's welfare and development. I believe there are studies about this. Women are not fit to raise kids, especially male children, on their own. Also, this woman comes off as selfish. She has prioritized her career her entire life. That's why she's single and childless at 40. It's clearly what she cares about above all else. Do we honestly believe she's now ready to loosen her grip and prioritize the welfare of the child - assuming she gets one? Highly unlikely. She'll most likely pawn the child to daycare and continue with business as usual. This is how unstable adults are created.
I never seen so many educated, successful, BEAUTIFUL black woman who are CHOOSING to be baby mommas....Sad very sad. You can't tell me NONE of these woman had great guys approach them at ANY time during their adult life! 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Facts!!!
Facts facts facts!!!
Chances are they are being super picky and making excuses not to date the guy. I think now so many people can't handle a fight or argument. They want to be able to just walk away and quit when they want if it's too hard. A relationship and parenthood takes work, and will not be perfect. She said herself that because she does not want to have to fight over certain things for the child. That's to easy to find out during the dating phase on someone's views of that stuff.
She is an emotional response to her leadership. As Charlemagne and Envy said they don't even have a friend that's together enough as millionaires to offer a black woman. Most races do connect their daughter with a great man. What are we doing? Black women are the emotional responders to leadership.
Do any of you have a great friend you can recommend to great homegirl? I mean to solidify black love? Or AALL the black women are uneducated with children in your life living in the ghetto? Just asking.
@@cedriclloyd5571 believe it or not as a business owner who constantly poured into a potential love and he poured into me as friends told me the same thing. He told me this after I waited for him to graduate so he can focus. After not having sex with him when he was with his 10 year girlfriend. After I then waited for him to be stable from that relationship when she broke up with him because he still in the fence. You know when he confessed his love? AFTER he got her pregnant for the third time as a now single man.....BOY IF YOU DONT GET ON AND BE WITH YOUR FAMILY!!?Awwww she trapped me cause she knew I was a truck driver now🙄🙄🙄*door closed* that kind of broke me. I haven't talked anyone else since because he then proceeded to tell me how my standards are too high, I cook for him all the time but didn't clean the dishes right after, that my business was cool as a life insurance agent but will never make as much money because I'm not a truck drive. Y'all black men are something serious.
Mind you he now lives with his Mom and everyone helped him pay bills while attempting to become a truck driver. I did everything right including losing weight and upgrading myself in this mean time. I'm gonna sit my pretty ahhh down somewhere in a corner.
Charlamagne is such a panderer.
He is also a simp of the highest order.
I'm glad Eboni is talking about this. I have gone through this process and it would have been really helpful to hear this before I went through the process. I am pro-freezing your eggs and if you want- getting a sperm donor because it takes the pressure off you the woman and also your future partner. You aren't pressuring him to have kids, there's no ticking clock, you can just live your life. I would recommend all women freeze their eggs if they can (it's an expensive process).
That's what you got out of that? I think she was clear on her stance of freezing her eggs and going in with a child ALONE. Your stance of a future partner is exactly what she is AVOIDING and the stats of single mothers have proved this to be true over and over again! Don't muddy the waters..
@@Gritzzyy Let me clarify in regards to the future partner- I don't think women should pressure men to have a child or try to trick them into having a kid. So freezing your eggs helps alleviate this pressure. Since your eggs are frozen, you have time to have kids later on in life if you want and don't have to put pressure on your partner who may not be ready to have kids. That's what I was saying. I don't think it's fair to put men under that kind of pressure but I don't think it's fair to have women just waiting around and the viability of their eggs declining because the man isn't ready. Freezing your eggs avoids this situation.
True
Would you mind sharing your experience of how much the process costs? I really want to freeze mine, but I doubt I would be able to afford it
As someone who’s also been looking into sperm donors this conversation is so refreshing to hear. Good for Eboni
So you want to be a single mother?
Me too!
@@Willy_Jean Yes we rather choose that route instead of dealing with the wrong man. Women can’t have kids forever waiting around for Mr Right
@@oncode7735 ok ...that's great for the women. I'm sorry not great but easier... What about the child ?
@@oncode7735 poor kid. You can’t manage a relationship with a man. So, the alternative is to screw up a kid. By depriving the kid of balance, an having one parent this not the most intelligent way. You continue to pass on your inability to manage relationships to an impressionable child.
This makes me sad, I’m not a believer that the black community as a whole will ever be unified. I think it’s fine to break it down into sub categories. Black Christians, Black Muslims, I don’t know-but some categories that can unite on some common agenda.
Because the BM/BW discourse has led us to a point where most of the women I know have given up dating and are freezing eggs. I just don’t believe that there are not qualified black partners. It’s just that volume of the unqualified men and women online is deafening.
Agreed!!
The black men have given up as well for the same reasons.
Nope. Most Black women are more educated and financially stable in comparison to men. Not to mention, past the age of 25 it is nearly impossible to find a Black man that is childfree. Most have illegitimate children, and thus baby mamas. I actually think Black women doing this will wake Black men up and get them to realize they have to up their game or miss out on great women, as CTG said.
@@Pou1gie1 😂 more like just deal with a different group of women
@@Pou1gie1 or just deal with a different group of women.🤷🏿♂️
This is so sad.All the men she done dealt with but couldn't find a husband to procreate with.Single parent family us whsts hurting the black community.
Wow! The Pandering was disgusting! It was almost as if 3 woman were talking! This woman in short hand said she wanted to be the decision maker for her child’s well being, education and development! And she was not gonna negotiate or cooperate with any man! Just give me your genetics I got this! Absolutely 🤮! These two panda 🐼’s literally reinforced this independent don’t need a man mindset that has driven men away into passport bros! Fellas getting yourself together to have no say so is insane! And kinda only half the problem! This culture is disgusting and so are the woman who facilitate these unnatural norms!
Black men pandering is definitely real. Women are the emotional responders to their leadership. Charlemagne didn't even have a great guy friend he can put with a beautiful black woman because they weren't together enough mentally. Two married men and a female lawyer. The pandering is very real with most black men in this exit strategy plan. It's rough in other countries too but the double or triple of that $800 is a win for black men.
Lots of pandering. Envy was like o yea I was gonna ask that. About how the kid was going to feel with no father. The donator is not tryna raise 10 kids w women they don't know.
Exactly and noone is considering what if the single mother dies shortly after the kid is born, who is the kid left with? None of them brought up the wants of the kid who is being brought into this single parent situation without a choice, it was all about the woman's WANTS.
Personally I think people should stop creating human souls for their self (#ego) centered reasons (i.e life goals, ego fulfilment, coping mechanisms). A human soul is not an accolade/goal/tool for one's happiness/retirement plan etc... If one is to bring a life into this cold world it should be *for that life and into a situation that's best for that life* & last l checked, having no father is NOT what's best for a child (mentally, emotionally, spiritually, socially etc.).
Sorry but someone has to say the truth; being fatherless will be a bad experience for the child. A father's love and presence CANNOT be out sourced. That kid, if born, will be *forced* to live life with a hole in their heart & being, in the shape of their father and lord knows what they may try to fill that hole with... this is a potential disaster waiting to happen imho.
@@nblion5 Envy better be concerned about who his wife/husband is going to screw on her 20 day girls trip.
Not a fan of a house with out 2 parents but I rather a well researched decision like this than a bringing a child into a tragic broken home.
The kid is still more likely to end up in prison or a sex worker. A single man as a parent has equivalent results as a 2 parent household. Single mothers..... the numbers speak for themselves
@@ruebascu it’s just a shame that so many single dads rather not fight it in court because they rather be weekend dads or part time dads than to do the entire thing alone. There’s stats to back that up too. 🫤
The home is already broken and tragic, with a dictator, judge juror and executioner! Figure from a single mom is highly damaging! Single mothers raise the very men they despise!
I am a donor consieved person and this episode was heartbreaking I do not support sperm donation
@@Sage-sc2vr l feel for you and dont support sperm donation. Im saying I rather the lesser of 2 evils. THe worst evil being abusive, unstable, broken homes. Rather than a parent missing yet stable home.
The wall is undefeated
I love Eboni but black women or women in general please don’t do this. Eventually, no matter how much love you give that child and resources you provide. That child will eventually get to a point and ask where and/or who is their father. And you won’t have the answer to that question. Which will effect the child for the rest of their lives. You are making permanent scars in a child’s life that does not have to be there.
Children get scars regardless. This is her decision and to tell other black women not to do it because you've assumed that it's something that will ruin every single child is unfair. She wants to be a mother and has chosen this route. The end.
@@AthenaAthena You sound like a psychopath. We have enough issues in the world. Most humans have some type of trauma stemming from their parents. We don't need more fatherless children in the world.
I agree
I see you are completely avoiding any discussion about the man's role in this, and instead choosing to put the onus squarely on women...interesting.
@@Pou1gie1 I want black women to always to chose black men. As well as black men need to step up and take care of their responsibilities. But if you think raising a child solely by yourself is the answer have at it. There is a disconnect in the black household due to whatever trauma that has been present for several decades. There is no other culture of black people in the world except America where women are trying to write off their own men. The last thing we should be doing is pointing the finger at each other. These issues need to be fixed immediately before it’s too late. It all start by having honest and healthy conversations. Shifting blame doesn’t help anyone in our community.
Women like this basically KNOW that Men aren’t gonna stay with them based on their mindsets. So they choose to be a Single Parent Mom & that’s the WORSE decision they can make. Women need Men just like us Men need Women. I respect ppls decision to do what they want but this mindset isn’t healthy to further us as Society. It’s important to have your Mom & Dad raising you and is even better if they stay together & do it.
Sad truth and they don't see it
Exactly
I was literally saying the same exact thing in one of those Nick Cannon threads and I received so much push back and vitriol from predominantly BM telling me to mind my business and that all the kids needed was Nick’s money and they would be fine. Smh. People are really lost nowadays. I couldn’t even imagine my life without my supportive parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles because it really takes a village to raise a well rounded, emotionally intelligent child.
@@CandieP Because men cover for each other. They don't like when women take control of their bodies and lives, and make their own rules. It's a double standard. So it's okay for Nick Cannon, but not for Ebony.
Amen 🙏
Colonoscopy for 300 she was doing something strange for a piece of change 😂
this is absolutely ridiculous. This is a clear that we live in a unbalance evil society
Idc how much money she got, that baby gonna want there daddy
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This is sad.. some women already have their mind made up to go about this alone.
I see you are completely avoiding any discussion about the man's role in this, and instead choosing to put the onus squarely on women...interesting.
@@Pou1gie1 ultimately women decide who gets born and by whom, thus the onus IS on women (the final decision makers) in this particular situation.
@@Pou1gie1 explaining the entire process, she never mentioned being in a relationship. She’s promoting men donating more sperm, but not promoting a man and woman being together. I’m sure she is just too picky for her own good.
@@MylezNevison exactly
@@writersblock5733 Boss chick syndrome. The men she wants/wanted didn't want to be her wife. I would have paid to see her debate her decision with Kevin Samuels. Passport Bros. are shrinking the pool even more.
A lot of women are going to go this route since choosing a career over a man is the wave today.
Not just choosing a man over career. Finding a black man that is emotionally balanced, and financially stable, and faithful is hard.
But why do they choose the career in the first place……🧐
That should tell y’all something.
This shit should be a last resort. Covid sent us in the house and the world came out wildin. Slowly but surely. Black women and men are becoming enemies. Shit sad
Women get bail out of everything. Freezing your eggs to be a single parent by choice only because you want to be dominant in every situation. Just submit to a man and take directions, Cgod would blame it on the men. “ what is wrong with us” 🤦🏾♂️
Note: this is not a child of god
Focus on creating a family and not being a single mother.
I find this so fascinating. I plan to adopt, but considered freezing my eyes in my 20s. People always shame women for using donors, but what's the alternative if you're getting older, haven't found a partner, and want a child? I know many women in their 40s and 50s who have resigned to not being mothers and it takes an emotional toll.
I dont know if it's ethically right. Seems almost selfish to purposely put a child in the situation of having a single parent.
@@cacia-mcal y'all really like to pawn the blame on blk men. I could just as easily say those women's compatibility and vetting ain't shit. That's a yall problem. We not gone sit here and act like these women have been manless for all those years.
@@Cofitube94 keep that same energy for women and men sleeping with any and everyone one without making a thought out decision on who that person is and what it will be like for that future child , if one were to come from one of these hook ups.
At least when your choosing Sperm , your financially and emotionally ready.
As a black man I can' share gold. Its said our women are so broken and are men are unable to stand in support of family.
This whole conversation is beyond sad 😢
Yes, for men. Basically, women are giving up on them. Time to up your game, boys!
@@Pou1gie1 nobody is marrying BW. They losing. Lol.
Very sad! A well educated well traveled woman, and she’s trying to convince us that everywhere she goes, all the men aren’t suitable for her? That is sad, and she’s incredibly selfish! One breath “black men don’t take care of their kids, they’re absent!” And in the next breath, “hey black men, donate your sperm!” So you’re encouraging the very same thing you criticize us for! But just because it quenches her biological clock, it’s fair to her! Smh! I pray to God ALLLLL black men stay away from this process! Do not purposely contribute to creating a broken home all because some woman wants a a baby!
Explain?
@@Pou1gie1 So we can be told by women like this that we have no say over anything that happens to our children? Pass.
This combo is good! She’s smart and the guys respect her opinion. This was very entertaining
Why Charlemagne blaming the men?! Kevin Samuels shaking his head
I see you are completely avoiding any discussion about the man's role in this, and instead choosing to put the onus squarely on women...interesting.
@@Pou1gie1 I see you are copy and pasting comments...interesting lol
@@lifestraight Copy and pasting who? Smh
@@Pou1gie1 And what is the man’s role in this? It’s a man’s role that’s forcing her to do this? Women’s biggest fear= accountability 🤷🏾♂️
She’s not lying. I went to Yale and in our student newspaper were ads for female students to undergo egg donation for a nominal fee.
Edit: I opted out and got a job at the library. 😂
Excellent topic and discussion. Maybe a part two would prove enlightening and/beneficial for both sides of the argument. Nice job Breakfast Club! 👍🏽
The sad part is if it’s a boy, shes basically breeding the very person who she doesn’t want.
Question: if you can’t sustain and make flourish a relationship with all the thing you want in a donor why do you think you can enrich a child’s life?
This to me is the other extreme of single mums struggling both aren’t good but the intention… just doesn’t sit well, inviting an unbalanced situation, that’s what’s wrong with our culture.
I hope I’m wrong and wish her and her children well.
There isn't a truer statement in this entire comment section.
Ladies, if you want to do it alone…adopt. It’s irresponsible and selfish to bring a child into the world whose father doesn’t love them, doesn’t love their mother and will not raise them.
When you adopt, you’re helping a child. When you do this other stuff, you’re hurting a child from birth.
I hope you know that kids that are adopted are filled with trauma too. Adoption doesn’t absolve them from the pain of being abandoned by their birth parents. Also single women don’t always qualify to adopt, I’d know I have considered it. And another thing what if a woman desires to be pregnant or have a child that’s biologically hers?
@@priscillaf9887 what if the baby wants a biological father in his life ? like the same way u have wants and desires , the baby will. It’s extremely selfish to think just cause u want a baby u have to ruin a brand new life , basically deeming there case hopeless from the start , No happy mom and dad at home , immediately less then their friends at school
Dr. Umar would tear her apart if they gave him the platform to debate her lol
Has he opened his school yet?
A 37 year old college educated woman doesn’t know she is born with all the eggs she’ll ever have???
Outsourcing a black man's presence? 🤣
💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾Great black men presence where sex is not on the table.
This is very sad. I wish America can get back to some type of normalcy.
This is so sad. I wish she could have a husband that she could build with...
It’s very sad and should not be considered normal. You mean to tell me there were no suitable men to marry in her 39 years? Nah
What if the intentional single mother dies shortly after the kid is born, who is the kid left with..? Is anyone even thinking about the kid who is being brought into this single parent situation without a choice?
Personally I think people should stop creating human souls for their self(#ego) centered reasons (i.e life goals, ego fulfilment, coping mechanisms). A human soul is not an accolade/goal/tool for one's happiness/retirement plan etc... If one is to bring a life into this cold world it should be *for that life and into a situation that's best for that life* & last l checked, having no father is NOT what's best for a child (mentally, emotionally, spiritually, socially etc.).
Sorry but someone has to say the truth; being fatherless will be a bad experience for the child. A father's love and presence CANNOT be out sourced. That kid, if born, will be *forced* to live life with a hole in their heart & being, in the shape of their father and lord knows what they may try to fill that hole with... this is a potential disaster waiting to happen imho.
There are plenty of people, unfortunately who have had both parents die. It’s not always the case that only one parent dies and I wish black men would take this more into consideration. Because plenty of them still believe it’s absolutely fine to abandon their child and let the mom raise the kid on her own. Even though both of them are responsible.
But to answer your question, when both parents are gone or when the primary parent dies the kid goes to someone else. I should know I was 3 years when I went to live with my grandparents after my mother’s death. I didn’t grow up to be an addict or criminal, neither did my older brother. My father was a part of my life after my parents divorced when I was 2 but opted to stop being my father when I was 10. He has I don’t know how many kids but hasn’t raised one.
Also the very choice to try to have kids is selfish, so a person having one via a donor is not being anymore selfish in that regard. People either have a desire to procreate or they don’t. What’s very selfish though is having kids and not taking care of them. Wish y’all had this energy for the people who make kids and then dip. Perhaps less kids would be fatherless 🤷🏾♀️
Loving this conversation and how assertive Eboni is
The AKA’s killed two pledges, Kenitha Saafir and Kristin High in the ocean in 2002 and tried to cover it up. Say their Names!!
The criteria is: DON'T !! SMH
Something is wrong with our community. Something really wrong
KS cited 52% of black men are single and childish with 64% being in the middle class. The problem is 80% Think they deserve to have a top 1% man.
Choosing to raise a child as a single parent is selfish, I dont care what anyone says.
Nah that’s a fact, all you’re caring about is your legacy & what good things people will say about you when you die… but directly choosing to single parent a child shows signs of bad decision making and selfishness
Bringing a kid in this world these days period is selfish
@@nickelbus7596 well human civilization has to continue lol that’s a little to much
@@kidkiw na, too many people here as it is. And none of em wanna work lmao
Tell all these baby daddies that. Many of them don't want to pay for or see their kids!
She tryna have a designer baby like did you not see what happened to Toya?? 😂
Charlemagne is the biggest simp in the world. "What's wrong with Black men that she's freezing her eggs?" Nothing. It's no Black man's fault that she put her career before family for over 20 years, and it's no man's fault that she seems to want total, singular authority over her kids, with the father seemingly being allowed to have no input.
It's not any man's job to pull a woman off her career path and make her prioritize a family while she's young enough to safely have healthy children. And no man should sign up for the kind of unequal parenting situation she seems to want. She's having to freeze her eggs because of her own choices, period.
I don’t want kids but I’m for it for women who don’t wanna deal with a man or haven’t found one. If you wish to be a mother, go for it.
Good luck without the sperm. Go adopt.
@@Iloveswedes learn to read, then go to hell. 🤷🏾♀️
I went to a beer festival last year and they had a vendor from a sperm donation facility. On the very front of pamphlet was a black guy smiling. The rep said they are in dire need of African American donors. This segment seemed like an episode of black mirror for some reason also!
😂😂😂
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I'd advise bm to not partake in this
She wants the entree without the meal
They always NEED black men for stuff, especially experiments. Man, there's a reason why black dudes aren't doing this. It's not even about the money. Plenty of black men give away seed for free out there. These places do all kinds of screening. The imperfections that they find in men in general, they will multiply that in black men in trying to not use us. But the flip side is, nobody wants to be responsible for a child they can't even call theirs.
Cruelty to children to not have two parents
Please keep Eboni as the host! She’s intelligent, informative, funny, and can keep up with their banter. I love her! Y’all really don’t even need to test anyone else.
Criteria #1 for my sperm donor: MARRIED to me!
See this is controlling behavior… she is smart and gorgeous respectfully , but look what she is doing to have a family….this is a unnatural process… I’m not trying to be disrespectful….but why! stay clear of this!!! find someone who likes you and tolerate you because this modern way of BS is crap… the birds and bees keep and kept it the same since we knew about the process….so let a women like this do them and find you a woman who likes you and will grow with you and smile with you and love with you and cry with you and be there when you see the light for the last time … this is corny and all things aren’t about business… very untrustworthy vibe in a woman like this…. Trying not be disrespectful to the guest host lady… for real…. Smh
The topic of freezing eggs is intriguing. It's always seemed like a rich person's option, I wish it was more affordable.
Kevin Samuel called it! I wish he was alive for this conversation.
You can't make this ish up! 🤦🏿♂️
I'm a PhD...
I think women are so busy focusing on careers that they think they can't have both. This is a new day and times are different. Ladies it should not be this difficult.
Right! Shame on her for building herself to not be a burden on a man like portrayed. Then after maintaining and building she is now too much for the average black man she is pursuing. Maybe she should have tried to start popping out kids and catering in her 20s to have a family now. If he left at least she would have a family.
@@Forsaken860 I hope this is sarcasm
@@Pou1gie1 you see it😉but I'm gonna stop trolling these comments cause chiiile🤣🤣🤣
These women are pathetic. To each’s own but that’s crazy. And then Charlamagne blaming men🥴
The same women who protected black men from police brutality and lynchings to now be hated. She is a lawyer fight for black men and women but hated. Yikes that's genuinely sad.
@@Forsaken860 I don’t care what she is lol. Y’all always talking about what somebody do for a living. That don’t mean nothing to this topic. That child daddy gone be literally just a nut sack
It's always Jermaine's fault.
If you've ever actually dated somebody, I'd bet those women/men would describe you as pathetic too. I KNOW it is impossible for you to have forged any semblance of a healthy relationship with a woman ever before in your life. No reasonable, educated and respectable person would prance their way into a comment section to call someone who has accomplished 100x more than you "pathetic." She's researching, investing and planning for the success of the family she wants. I bet you've never replicated that sort of effort into anything before. Have you? You don't see how you and your comrades are complicit in the demise of the two-parent family structure and quality dating pool? You probably live in the South, work an hourly job making a whopping $20-something dollars an hour and think you have the capacity to speak on family planning and what's "pathetic." Come down off that pedestal and stand amongst your degenerate peer group.
@@lolitafalana you said all that cause you can’t find nobody to knock you up???? Cringe af 😂😂😂😂
Good luck to her but this is heartbreaking ngl
Very heartbreaking.
What about finding a husband?
I can’t respect her decision I’m sorry 😞
Charlemagne is all the way caught up in the game. Sad
I encourage any mother that has done the work on herself, can financially support a child, and has a "village" to intentionally be a single mother.
Alot of women are trying to do everything the "right way", waiting on a good brotha , who never comes, now theyre in their 40s/50s with no eggs.
. . . Although, freezing eggs is great, more people should consider adopting/fostering.
I think it is really selfish to plan to have more than 3 biological kids when there are so many children who are in need of love already here.
It is false to believe that women are infertile into their 40s or even 50s. The oldest known woman in the western world to get pregnant and give birth to a perfectly fine child was 56. There is a soap opera star currently whose wife cheated on him and got pregnant by accident at 45. If you are able to, go to a fertility clinic and get checked out to see what your options are. No woman should give up if that is her goal!
@@Pou1gie1 First of all I am not sure why you are arguing this point as it has NOTHING to do with mine but
MOST women reach menopause 45 - 55.
"Geriatric pregnancy" is any pregnancy after 35
The older a mother is the increase of harm for them and the baby.
Although we see more celebrities with money having babies later in life the average woman would be foolish to ignore simple science.
Ok so im gonna start by saying she is so beautiful. And l really do like her a lot!! Now with that said. Women truly are thee definition of narcissistic. If you believe that kid won’t have any trauma simply bc you and the father didn’t get divorced, and it was a choice that YOU made. Then you don’t know anything about trauma. Nor do you know anything about kids. The smallest little thing can shape the way a child feels, thinks, and behaves for the rest of their life. I’m a single father of an 11yr girl. With full custody. I also share custody of my 1yr old son. So l have PLENTY of experience with how fragile the mind of a child is. Also im not against women doing this if they need to. But l don’t think anyone should ever choose this. Women need to stop trying to do everything without a mans help. Words like “mansplain” have made it very clear that women HATE the idea of having a mans help. Meanwhile us as Men have never once thought that we don’t need a Woman’s help. We know for a fact that we do. We need each other. God didn’t make any mistakes
This conversation is sooooooo SAD. If they can't have a man then they will do it alone. It's pure disfunction. Smh