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Until a few months ago, I didn't conceive I would spend hours watching evangelists at work.
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Once you hear people who know what they’re talking about like Bob it’s all over.
I was a atheist for over 30 years then I came across bob🔥🔥
@@jasonmunro1983praise God. I think I see you in the chat sometimes
@@ProfYaffle yes I also recognise your profile.. think we’ve liked or commented on one another comments in the past👊🏻🔥🔥
Amazing man, people like Bob is a gift to humanity. Thank you lord.
Unfortunately he still think of the physicality of theology and not Spirituality teachings of Jesus, everything the Bible teaches is Spirit, each person is a church, our bodies are made for God's Holy Spirit and Jesus even said those who are lead by the Spirit are like the wind guided by God. Bob has too much faith in the Physical churches rather than the Spiritual churches of the Body of Christ.
The holy spirit is doing serious work within you brother Bob, you're on another level ✝️🔥🙏
Amen 💕 🙏🏻 💕
Off the chart Evangelism Bob, who could not fail to be amazed with this ?
Lol me?
Understandable really,Jesus is the only King !
How tall is this young lad, it’s like bob talking to a giant 😅
When talking to an abdul:
Q. How many qurans?
A. One quran
Q. Is hafs quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. Is warsh quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. Is doori quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. How many qurans?
A. One quran
Q. Are all qurans around the world same?
A. Yes
Q. Do the Sana manuscript and Birmingham manuscript have variants?
A. Yes
Q. Are qurans preserved word for word, letter for letter?
A. Yes
Q. In sura 37.12, one quran says "you", another "I"?
A. They are different accents
Q. How many ahrufs did muhamad recite?
A. 7
Q. How many ahrufs did uthman destroy?
A. 6
Q. How many ahrufs today?
A. 7
Q. How many qiraats did muhamad recite?
A. None
Q. How many qiraats today?
A. 10, 15, 20, 50
Q. Is Bible preserved?
A. No
Q. Is muhamad prophesied in the Bible?
A. Yes
Q. Did muhamad marry a child?
A. No
Q. How old was aisha?
A. 6
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✌🏻😎🏴That’s cool. Now do the bible 👍🏻. Don’t be biased, point out as many flaws as you can find 👍🏻.
@@THEMASKEDMASTER the flaws is the contradictions but the faith came before the book but the message is changed. Yes you can go back in comparison from the Old Testament vs the new Testament and the covenant of Jesus. I'm not even religious but I've been looking at both more these recent months. The Quran is based on rules and the faith stems from that. I've learned a number of things from Islam that Muslim deny and I've even challenged some. Christianity I knew about but I've graps more understanding of it. I've too read the new testament just out of curiosity and found contradictions but my conclusion is that it was a good read and does not teach you to go forth and sin and do bad and the message have still been the same. That's my take anyway. I'm not no professional I'm just basic but learning.
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Love Bobs work, but I think when dealing with atheists and the concepts of independent language that genetics is a stronger argument than mathematics. The reason is that mathematics can be simply described as pattern recognition. Genetics is clearly a complex set of instructions that act independently of human minds.
Signed a former atheist (now Catholic).
Now that you know what makes atheists think, have you had more success winning over your former comrade-in-arms?
Sometimes you can get caught up worshiping the search.
Too deep
ZEAL
I want to give Bob a hug
Bob's knowledge and zeal is incredible! .. I believe he is so filled with the holy Spirit & prayers have been answered -God bless you brother!
✊️ love these videos. I can't get enough. Please keep up the hard work and thank you for sharing.
Bobzilla 💪🔥❤️
Man! This Bob guy never fails me 🔥🔥🔥
One of the Best Christian Apologist Face to Face ,not only Religious discussion,but any issues .His knowledge n intelligent separated him from many of debaters at Speakers Corners.Makes you wonder all the Muslims used to dominated the park are avoiding him.
@@toolisati8916 yh I've notice he is well rounded and knowledgeable and can debate on other things like politics and not just religion.
Bobs character truly speaks to godliness
Nice work, Bob. God bless you.
It would be helpful if you had an additional microphone when doing these interviews.
They do have
Wish we had a bob here in australia for new christians
Amazing. I’ve recently decided to start my own channel and focus on delivering the Word to atheists and agnostics , as that is what I identified as for most of my life. Some of the points you hit on during this conversation were beautiful. Thank you for the work you do, and may God continue to shelter you as you go to the Corner and work through you to bring our brothers and sisters home.
Bob = UK's Boldest and Strongest Soldier of Christ 🙏✝️
Great discussion
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Beauty!!
Clever clever man Bob!
I love this guy, and how well spoken his arguments are.
Psalm 19 1, my favorite!!! The heavens declared the glory of God and the firmament showeth His handywork!!🙏🙏🙏
The work Bob is doing is really sensationnal!
Being a Christian watching these videos truly help me to witness better and encourage me in my faith
Yes God is righteous judge
Bob is fantastic. The other guy won't let anything sink in though.
He might. He is on camera remember
Give him a bit. He’ll revisit it cause it’ll keep poppin’ up in his mind.
❤ this
Jesus Christ Yeshua is the king of kings and the Lord of Lords & he is coming back👑🐎🙌🏼⚡✨
Amazing explanation!
Bob the servant of knowledge.
Bob,may the holy spirit continue to dwell in you and guide you when proclaiming Jesus to every Muslim every atheist and even Christians who don't believe In Jesus but just a name
Nicely done.
God bless you brother Bodzilla 💀 You are very wise I am so thankful to Jesus for having you as a brother in Christ
The thought process behind freedom vs. compulsion might have just solved my questions, thanks bob
We are Created, Limited and Polluted. Jesus Christ can ONLY one who can save us all.
Wasnt expecting the Richard Dawkins hand out at the end bob that just shows how your willing to help people find the answers to the questions they have through reason and logic. Fine work 👏
Nice work Bob. Again
Teach him.
Common sense and truth and mutual respect is awesome. Looking forward to more constructive debates like this ! Thanks giys.
Bob i am very thankful for your videos. You teached me a lot in the last few months. God bless ❤️🔥
Also, the Holt Shroud, venerated since the earliest times, according to tradition, and whose examination concludes it's a miracle from the I century.
I wish there was a space like this in Canada. I enjoy the discussions that challenge my own positions.
The police would shut it down. Canada is a godless nation.
11:00 No judge will tell you that ignorance will protect you from the law.
Can someone tell me the name of the song socofilms uses at the end of some if his videos. God bless
Allah had 3 daughters
Al-Lat , Al-Uzza, and Al-Manat 😮
Atheist ideology have faith on their god Energy - Matter - Time - Space that can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another.
Bob is a gift of God, praise God
He's good our Bob!
Faith is why this student go to school, taking study loan though he never knows he will live that long
Its called a necessary anticedent relationship. Information requires a knower, just like a steak requires a cow.
Hello Bob, can you please mention more about the Holy Spirit and its presence after His resurrection
Life from non-life😅😂🤣
How good is bob?
Paul is one of the greatest and best examples that supports Jesus. A man persecuting Christians, seeing them jailed and k*lled to then go blind on the road to Damascus due to Jesus showing Himself and asking Paul "Why do you persecute Me so?" has a complete 180 and becomes the second most important person in Christianity that was responsible to spreading the Gospel to the gentiles.
It's interesting how any and all reasons aside from what seems to be the most plausible answer is intentionally avoided to get away from the answer the atheist here doesn't want to get to.
Onward Christian Berean 🙏 ✝️ 🕊
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8:24 could we use Mathew chapter 11 verse 23 to 24 instead?
The answer to the question at the 10 minute mark is in the Bible and it is Romans 1:18 and down. Great job Bob!
Another important point: Thomas put his hand on Jesus' wounds... therefore, the "twin Jesus" is not a feasible theory.
The flaw of this is that you have to believe Thomas, but there were other witnesses.
G-d bless Bob and other Evangelists.
Well, people you love truly and when they die... yes you can see them after the death..because all the thoughts one makes for many days.. one can make an hallucination.
You need to mention the 500 people who saw Jesus , the disciples in the upper room , the Day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit came and 3000 people were converted in one day and was speaking in tongues .
Let's listen to the Evengialists
Jesus rose from the dead.
Oh so the Platanist converted!? That's great! I sensed he was close, he was really listening, and interested.
Dear brother Bob, can you tell, what happened to sister Hatun Tash?
hatun tash have been banned by the authority from coming to the speakers corner
14:39 The twin is Thomas Jewish name Toma the twin and one of his apostles is named as Toma the twin.
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To issue a challenge regarding the notion that "(God) the just judge, judges you by things that you do know, not by things you don't know" as it relates to the final judgement of people who have not been exposed to the Gospels due to, say, geographical limitations:
As a matter of fact, a judge in our world would apply the principle "ignorance of the law does not excuse the unlawful actions" and would punish the person who unknowingly breaks the law just like he would punish a person who knowingly breaks the law.
What can we go by when assuming that Han Dynasty Chinese people are not in fact subject to divine punishment for not following Jesus?
No it’s more that god won’t hold you to the same standard as someone who knows it’s wrong. Everyone knows murder is wrong, rape is wrong, stealing is wrong, ect.
God will judge people for sinning willingly and happily but god won’t judge for you honestly not knowing something . A judge on earth cannot know whether or not you honestly didn’t know that being greedy was wrong but god does and will judge based off that. God knows everything a human judge does not
Hi Bob could maths or civilisation have its origins from the angels that took the daughters of men
Bob is a capable of defeating any nonbeliever
He lost me when he said that mathematics was a language, because mathematics is an universal constant, it is not like a e i o u which evolved trough our biological limitation to express ourself. Physics and mathematics are already there in contrast with orthography.
We didn’t invent mathematics. We find it effecting the universe and we learn it then write it in our own language. All recorded Maths can be deleted for 1000 years and yet someone on the other side of the universe can learn it again. It’s a language seperate to us and is written in the foundations of the universe
Mathematics is a language we use to interpret the truth of nature. The numbers, formulation, used are our way of deciphering the structure of our reality.
How did Bob forget Romans 2:12-16
Guys , anyone could break into points what Bob says at the very beginning about Atheists believing life comes from not life etc.
Sorry English is not my first language. Thank you!
He is saying that Atheists believe that human life is just atoms/ matter/ energy; which are ALL non-living things. Thus they believe that human LIFE came from non-life! I.E something coming from nothing.
Also, that there is no creative mechanism or archetype for Mankind! That it was just happenstance that we were created! A universal anomaly if you will.
@ 5:08 it’s better to say...”The God of [ANCiENT) Israel, The God revealed through Christ”.
It’s clear the State of 🇮🇱 iS NO Longer *His CHOSEN*people. Besides that, just logically speaking- ANY Nation or Country whose Official Religion is one which REJECTS Christ (+His Disciples) AND MOCKS Him-CANNOT BE HiS Chosen PEOPLE.
Call it, “Replacement Theology” but it’s plain for us to read in John chapter 5.
Bob is the faith would she be imitating. His reward will be great in Heaven.
When you read the teachings of Christ, He will make thing's clear for you.. if you pray to Christ, you will start to understand the teachings even further, prayer leads you to the path of truth and recognition of God's existence within Christ. It takes some time especially if there's already belief barriers, but chipping away will get you through the wall, and break out of the perimeter of doubt, it'll carve out itself. Patience and commitment brothers and sisters.
People will not be judged for not believing in Jesus and the Gospel, but for breaking the law (Romans 2:12-15, Revelation 20:13). And Jesus will deliver those who believe in Him from judgment.
As for mathematics, I would simply say that science describes the laws of nature, but does not talk about their origin.
May God be with you, my brother - protect you, fill you and guide you.
When he said as an atheist you can have subjective meaning, he is mistaken, he meant you can get the feeling of meaning. I mean this in a definitional sense. It's like if someone offered you that your crush falls in love with you, but by forced means, would you want that? I'm sure your answer would be no. In the same way, a facsimile of meaning is useless, it's the malaise of the 21st century in fact, that very dissonance, and people are realising it.
✌🏻😎🏴Quick question… what makes you think that life is created from nothing or “non life”?
Why would all the apostles take the persecution and be put to death in horrible ways to sustain something they new to be a lie. The way the apostles live there lives and take in this persecution confirms the strength of there belief
What can be done with this channel? These videos should be receiving 10x views.
Easy Bob. GOD IS WORD. what word mean is?
Mathematicians will tell you that Mathematics is a language that is inherently present in the universe and not created by men.
The mathematical written symbols and formulas men created are just a way of writing that language.
To suit your desire not to believe in God
I was raised protestant, but now i struggle with knowing if God exists or not.
Thousands of people have had near death experiences, most of them meet Jesus, I have listened to most of them not once did they say met Mohammad except for one rapper saying he saw Mohammad in hell.
@@saved6855 Oh no, i wouldnt believe in Islam, it's already been refuted, my struggle is with knowing if God real does exist or not, if he does, yeah it's probably the christian God
You need an encounter with the living Savior.
This is so that your faith can high was handed down to you from your ancestors becomes real and powerful and will be your faith.
New International Version:
My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power.
New Living Translation:
And my message and my preaching were very plain. Rather than using clever and persuasive speeches, I relied only on the power of the Holy Spirit.
I did this so you would trust not in human wisdom but in the power of God.
English Standard Version:
and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
Berean Standard Bible:
My message and my preaching were not with persuasive words of wisdom, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, so that your faith would not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power.
King James Bible:
And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
New American Standard Bible:
and my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of mankind, but on the power of God.
Legacy Standard Bible:
and my word and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
Amplified Bible:
And my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom [using clever rhetoric], but [they were delivered] in demonstration of the [Holy] Spirit [operating through me] and of [His] power [stirring the minds of the listeners and persuading them], so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom and rhetoric of men, but on the power of God.
Holman Christian Standard Bible:
My speech and my proclamation were not with persuasive words of wisdom but with a powerful demonstration by the Spirit, so that your faith might not be based on men’s wisdom but on God’s power.
American Standard Version:
And my speech and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
that your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English:
And my message and my preaching were not in the persuasiveness of the words of philosophy, but in the demonstration of The Spirit and power,
That your faith would not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
Contemporary English Version:
When I talked with you or preached, I didn't try to prove anything by sounding wise. I simply let God's Spirit show his power.
That way you would have faith because of God's power and not because of human wisdom.
Douay-Rheims Bible:
And my speech and my preaching was not in the persuasive words of human wisdom, but in shewing of the Spirit and power;
That your faith might not stand on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God.
GOD'S WORD® Translation:
I didn't speak my message with persuasive intellectual arguments. I spoke my message with a show of spiritual power so that your faith would not be based on human wisdom but on God's power.
Good News Translation:
and my teaching and message were not delivered with skillful words of human wisdom, but with convincing proof of the power of God's Spirit. Your faith, then, does not rest on human wisdom but on God's power.
International Standard Version:
My message and my preaching were not accompanied by clever, wise words, but by a display of the Spirit's power, so that your faith would not be based on human wisdom but on God's power.
Literal Standard Version:
and my word and my preaching was not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power-that your faith may not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
Majority Standard Bible:
My message and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, so that your faith would not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power.
NET Bible:
My conversation and my preaching were not with persuasive words of wisdom, but with a demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would not be based on human wisdom but on the power of God.
New Revised Standard Version:
My speech and my proclamation were not with plausible words of wisdom, but with a demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith might rest not on human wisdom but on the power of God.
1 Corinthians 2
I love Bob but and their is a But he never brings up that the Spirit also confirms that Jesus was the son of God to the believers and it is NOT always about we just believe without the evidence for the Spirit testifies to the truth. For we have a encounter with him.
So many commenters here trying to, if they could, control Bob with their keyboard.
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I don't think anyone could control Bob!
Perspective shift helps.
Try to not start with a conclusion and look for evidence to prove or disprove.
Maybe just read the Bible cover to cover to start instead of picking passages out of context to support or disprove preconceived notions.
God Bless
It’s called “reborn” for a reason lol.
What bible would bob tell me to get ? I dont have one.
He uses the NASB1995
@@SocoFilmsBible from 1995? Cool, so he’s also nostalgic about the 90s!?
Get a New King James. You won't regret that translation.
@@jonathanterol4528 qurans are from 1924
@@Ex_muslim_alonzo_harris Ah yes, the rolling 20s, not so cool as the 90s, though.
Dowkins book used for Evangelical work! Someone should send this to Dowkins and he will realise his call to become the modern day Paul sooner.
I love Bob, understand Christianity built the west and can see the benefits of living life as a Christian. I wish I could believe, but this is Bobs only weak argument in my opinion and it just so happens to be the core of the belief system 😢.
The argument is the resurrection is real, because there is testimony from those around Jesus that attest to it, and they changed their society because of it, why would they do that if it’s not true??
The problem is there is an Indian Guru named Sathya Sai Baba, that is claimed by millions to have “performed miracles, including resurrections! Literally thousands of people in the 21st century will claim to have seen the miracles first hand. Not a chance I believe that and I doubt you do either, so why suspend the disbelief for a similar claim 2000 ago.
Robert Kennedy on JRE described how in his 20’s he started living his life “as if” god was real even though he didn’t truly believe and it changed his life forever. I’m super tempted to do the same however feel it’s sort of disrespectful
I will say that the difference is that Jesus died and rose again, not just resurrecting other people. Even people who disliked him admitted to his performance of miracles, but they demonized him for it.
Dont just dismiss it. That is the supernatural. Try and look into it more.
@@theoriginalAlaya thanks for the response.
Wouldn’t you say that a human that can resurrect another human would have to be either God or acting on behalf of God?
If you accept that, then it’s just a matter of the evidence and if the whole belief structure relies on the fact that we have 5 historical documents from 2000 years ago attesting to Jesus’s resurrection, I’d say factually the scale of eye witness testimony for Sathya Sai Baba’s miracles is much stronger.
Chickens are the most delicious birds on earth. People all across the world LOVE chicken. Chickens cannot really fly. Not an accident..
The Jews had to reject the idea that Jesus being the Messiah had risen from the dead because they condemned him to death. It was a political nightmare for the religious/political leaders. The solution: Under no circumstances can Jesus be accepted as Messiah!
I don't like the fact that Bob says "bro". Not very catholic.
That is so arbitrary!! That it was COMPLETELY ASININE FOR U TO WRITE SMH
Look at the name easily told Muslim tried to give Bob a negative,but Muslims are the most rudely people at Speakers Corner.
Chill bro
Faith is not having control over your own life😉. Assuming and faith two different things🤔 The sales pitch is ok it's the product I have issues with. If he showed himself, I would have a few things to say. 57 years old find there is no god.❤✌Smart kid, Jesus was here true, miracles 🤔If someone dies and only "3 people move the body from the tomb " then say he raised up. Did he rise up.
1 there is record about Roman solders guard the tomb 2 there was a big stone outside the tomb. Hard to roll without enough man power. A lot of man moving a big stone will be seen by someone. 3 If they can find the body, or the eyewitness of them moving the stone awsy, won't the Jews and Romans use it to put off the fake news about Jesus's resurrection? 4 Will you willing to die to spread a lie that someone died and come back to life again? 11 out of the 12 apostles died a tragic death no financial gains. What is the drive for these 11 people? Are there anything similar throughout the human history?
16:26 what a dumb and immature way of thinking...wow, smh.