Mass Effect Lore: Reapers & Leviathans
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Leviathan : Hmmmm every time they make A.I it backfires........... surely our A.I creation will be fine though.
*Facepalm meme*
Seriously, as far as origins go, it could have been worse for the Reapers. I wished it was more extravagant, strange and borderline esoteric, due to either happenstance during their evolution or creation or maybe the universe itself and the life that had evolved at the time was actually quite different then what it is in the modern day Mass Effect universe.
i think that plays into their arrogance, they thought and mostly were, the best at what they did and thought that if they made it, they would make it the best ever, which i guess they did create the best AI ever, at uh, murdering entire species.
It’s bound to happen to us someday too.
When you think your so much superior, that kind of thinking is a probably to happen.
It might be boring, but its the most realistic... a alien race like that would have gotten so incredibly arrogant that they would have never imagined anything they do possibly going wrong...
so, they'd obviously think that they could make a perfect a.i while all their servant races aren't smart enough to make a good one.
Anything involving reapers, instantly gets my attention..
Leviathan: A.I is a dangerous tool that easily backfires.
Also Leviathan: Let's make our own A.I, but even better than that of lesser species.
What could go wrong?
What i love about reapers(and you pointed that out in notes) is that their way of thinking is clearly how machine or program would think. Reapers basically cought themself in infinite loop. As would any learning machine do, reapers tried to make their work more effective. By creating mass relays and citadel they could make technogical progress of any race much faster. Faster cycles means more attemps to find solution(race that would not create AI). This also meant that harvesting would be much more quicker and effective(again faster cycle). But by doing this they basically force every race into pretty much same technological development which lead into not finding solution.
When you think about it(and know something about machine learning) this is basically just basic machine learning process with using catastrophe model as solution when process fell into local optimum. Only problem was that methods used for making process faster lead untimately into same local optimum and global optimum could never be found. This also explains why they need Shepard to make choise for them. They simply cant find it on their own.
Very much looking forward to the legendary edition. Will be good to remember that Bioware could actually make good games at one time.
YESSSSS
The Leviathans were aware of the imminent dark energy threat and created the Intelligence to preserve life at any cost. Maybe it’s advanced species that were the cause of stars dying at an alarming rate or the Reapers were created to preserve as much life as possible until the end, so it’s the Intellegence’s only solution. Of course the dark energy plot got retconned and instead we got the endings and an origin that doesn’t even make any sense.
Did bioware ever elaborate on the dark matter plot? I've only heard minute details
The dark energy plot doesn't even make sense. Dark energy is the force, that is responsible for the universe's expansion. This will eventually lead to a universe so big, that particles can't collide anymore, making the creation of new planets, stars etc. impossible. If the reapers were to wipe out the ones who use dark energy, eventually converting it all into another form of energy (since energy doesn't get lost), they would keep the expansion going, eventually dooming the universe. If all the dark energy were to be converted, the universe would start shrinking, merging everything together, until there is one black hole containing all the mass of the entire universe. Said black hole would explode, releasing all mass and creating a new universe. The reapers would stop that from happening.
@@thorodinson292 so what you're saying is I need to gather six fragments of the creation of the universe all of which are somehow in the milky way galaxy and then snap half the universe out of existence leading to balance.
@@theghostofyourwastedmoney9007 *sprays you with water* bad thanos, bad!
@@thorodinson292 guess who's getting the snap treatment first? lol
I remember how scary the reapers seemed after finding about them in ME1
Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. you touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding...
Damn scary introduction man
They were unexplained lovecraftian horrors. Once they were explained, it just kinda fell flat for me
@@lovesyoohoo Agreed, Vigil said it best, "Your survival depends on stopping them, not on understanding them." Which also seemed like the writers' way of saying "we're not going to explain them, don't ever ask" until they were replaced by shitty writers in 2 and 3
Leviathan can also survive in space so I doubt air makes any issue to them, it is a little weird when you say they are probably amphibious, they for sure are, and if not, they are using mass effect field to be able to do whatever they want
Catalyst is the one who created pawns known by the prothean as the "reapers"
The reason the reapers lost this cycle was because they got sloppy. All other traces of ancient civilizations were wiped out, yet somehow some of the Prothean technologies survived, along with multiple Prothean VI's, plans for the Crucible, and certain species such as the ancient Asari, Turian, and Salarians not getting harvested into Reapers.
The Reapers got sloppy. The Protheans gave the next cycle a couple thousand years head start. That was the downfall, an AI making a single mistake.
The Crucible wasn't only built by Protheans, it's been an ongoing effort for several cycles.
Also the Protheans learned mass effect technology from the Inusannon, so this pattern wasn't the first occurence.
But yeah I think the Protheans were a particularly powerful race, which means they were harder for the reapers to kill, and allowed them to leave enough behind so that the next cycle would win.
The reprogramming of the Keepers to prevent them from opening the portal of the Citadel was a critical achievement. Else, the story would have ended as soon as Mass Effect 1.
@@noblaw7595 I didn't say the protheans made the plans for the crucible, just that the reapers were sloppy and did not destroy those plans.
Also the Inusannon are to the Protheans as the Protheans are to the current cycle. The Inusannon did not teach Protheans anything, the Protheans found reaper tech and thought it was Inusannon, just like how the galaxy thought the relays and Citadel were Prothean.
@@kiyan5340 Yeah exactly, I just meant that the Reapers got sloppy on multiple occasions, because races in multiple cycles were able to build upon the previous race's technology/Crucible plans
@@kiyan5340 they likely found actual Inusannon tech too. In the planet descriptions When you're spending hours probing random worlds you can see evidence of other previous cycles too not just Prothean. The mass relays the citadel that's reaper tech but much like our story in ME, the Protheans probably found some Inusannon ruins on a planet in their own solar system that jump-started their path to find the reaper tech left for them.
@@noblaw7595 the reapers likely were the source of the crucible to begin with. The catalyst even notes that the goal was to end the cycle, but that it required organics to be "ready". The construction and completion of the crucible was this test... hence the name 😉
All the information we got from the Leviathans was so frustrating. Since it was just them doing the same thing everyone else did and expecting better results.
They fell due to their own hubris...
I'm not overly surprised.
"It won't happen to us!" is an incredibly common sentiment on Earth, and so seeing it in the Leviathans doesn't surprise me.
Simple concept in the series, everyone seems to abuse their creations but doesn’t understand that’s why they get fucked over
"Surely not I" nature's trigger word
"Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?"
I was actually kind of hoping with Andromeda we'd find out the reapers were infact harvesting multiple galaxies in a rotation.
Sort of a "Hahaha you tried to avoid your Destiny!" Twist.
Not gonna lie, that would feel like a lame cop out from a game design perspective, but a FANTASTIC twist from a world design perspective. We could dig it.
Its actually quite damning to the Leviathans/Reapers hubris. They believe themselves these prime movers to life but they only operate in the Milky Way. They're nothing more than false Gods.
Well, unless the Crucible acts like reverse indoctrination, basically locking the reapers out of the galaxy in question
Biggest problem I have with the Leviathans are they hid like cowards for millions of years when they could have easily stopped all this... once they realized the reapers went to dark space for 50k years and left only one they could have easily came out of hiding. killed the one reaper still in space and did what all the other races did and build a way to shut all reapers down... if they were so much more advanced then other races then it should have been pretty easy for them.
There's let's say maybe a dozen leviathans... vs millions of reapers? Nah man. They valued survival too much to come out of hiding. Wining wasn't certain.
In the game if you listen to all the dialog they explain it pretty well
@@I_am_a_cat_ what I don't get is how did the Leviathans lose to the Reapers in the first place. They are individually stronger than reapers and they were all over the galaxy at some point, how did they lose?
@@geogeo3733 perhaps it was like the geth and quarians? They just got suprised when their A.I. went rogue. The reapers would have known all their weaknesses. Perhaps they were integral to their technology too.
@@geogeo3733 the leviathan said they got caught off quard
@@geogeo3733 its explained in the game
MAD -- Mutually Assured Destruction. And the definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Humanity discovered Mass Effect technology on Mars that had been left behind by Protheans. That tech leaped human evolution forward 2 centuries, and it lead to their immersion in Interstellar Society. Had they not discovered the Mass Effect Tech, would they have made it to the Citadel or the Relays? In which case, would they have been left alone by the Reapers?
if they had not found the mass relays, by the time they got to the citadel the cycle would have passed them by leaving them alone for 50k years.
& with no citadel counsel?
they have a long time to develop AI.
imagine the catalyst's reaction to a race after countless cycles pulling up to the citadel that coexists with its creations.
all without ME tech.
it would both be surprised, & the reapers would lose their shit.
There’s actually a “cut” creature in the Mass Effect universe that were bird like creatures, and they would advance far enough but when the reapers comes, they would destroy their own tech, from
VI’s and AI’s, down to their Satellites and advanced research centers to avoid detection by the Reapers… what I personally think on how the Reapers works in this context is they hijack the stuff that reveals locations and tech advancements and decide from there
@@MasterHall117 Yup. The Raloi
@@blakedevitt6948 that’s what I thought, I knew they started with an R and forgot their names
GG
I love these videos. They just give a thurough explanation of the topic.
Cool, more Mass Effect lore.
Delightful
The Reapers must be god damn fast even without the mass relays considering it took them, what, 3 years to reach the galaxy. Considering they probably camped at the mass relay located in dark space before Sovereign was destroyed and weren't already heading for the galaxy. And it doesn't seem like they actually carry a mass relay with them to the galaxy so they can't enter it if they want on fly.
Considering how quick it blasted through the Alliance at the beginning of ME3, yeah, i’d agree that they are the epitome of “fast as fuck boi”
So a big question for ME4 becomes, you got rid of the Reapers, what happens now with the Leviathans? They got no reason to hide anymore, why wouldn't they just take the place of the Reapers?
Thanks for taking my suggestion guys. always love ur lore videos.
P.s. synthesis for the win ✌️. Or control...really anything but destroy lol
Yeah it has nothing to do with legendary edition or anything... nah, it was all you mate
Late but the different reaper ship classes are all made from the present intelligent species during the harvesting cycle, yes, but only certain species become certain classes. Sovereign class reapers are made based on what the reapers define as the “apex” species of that cycle and only those species become sovereign class ships. During the cycle present in game humanity was determined to be the apex species of their cycle, thus they wouldve been harvested for a capital ship. In the previous ones the true protheans would’ve been classed as the dominant species of their cycle. I doubt they were incompatible and became collectors, but its fair to assume that they work just like the reaper ground troops we see in game where theyre bodies drained of extreme amounts of organic material, then reanimated using reaper tech. The collectors being prothean husks that act as an agent to do some things as the reapers are in dark space
All “lesser” species by reaper definition would make up all the smaller ship classes. Due to the smaller sized and how much less advanced the smaller ship classes are compared to the sovereign class ones, its very likely the “lesser” species would be made into multiple of the smaller reapers, compared to the apex species just being a single sovereign ship.
Destroyers and other reaper vessels that arent sovereign/harbinger class are the harvested species like the batarians and asari etc and geth. The sovereign/harbinger class are reserved for humanity thanks to Shepard's actions throughout the trilogy it says so in the codex under reaper and in the quarian-geth war part of mass effect 3.
Very old giant-flying-robot krakens. Makes sense for the Geth Consensus to refer to these as the "Old machines".
I love how ME saw the halo stories of Flood, precursors, and forerunner and said "what if we expand on this greatly? And make a game out of it?"
that's exactly what this story reminded me of! lol but i still love both stories
Forerunner + flood = Reapers
The Reapers really do be old. A million years divided by 50K is 20, if we're assuming that one full harvest is one new reaper. There are hundreds of reapers
The problem with the Reapers is Bioware started making more in depth lore for them after the first game. They work best as unknowable eldritch monsters. Even their actual name was unknown. Reaper was what the Prothiens called them. When you give them backstory it takes the horror and mystery away.
Curiosity kills the cat and the unknown horrors once again
Halo’s got a similar problem with the Forerunners, Flood and Covenant, once feared cause we knew nothing about any of them or how to stop it, as the game and world builds, they get easy and somewhat boring to deal with cause it’s no longer a mystery
Only game that I’ve played that successfully kept the interest of what was once mysterious was Warframe and some aspects of Halo, but mostly Warframe with who the Tenno were.
Reapers/leviathans were such an incredible antagonist. Such a shame that Mass Effect 3's ending basically ended up being "red, blue, or green". There's so much room for so many amazing endings. I was so disappointed. From the first game, we were told our choices would impact the ending of the series.... Which was just a blatant lie. They dropped the ball so hard on what could have been a top-of-all-time series
I already know all the lore, idk why I keep watching these
For funzies? lol
Who knows. Sometimes when I watch a lore video about a subject I know pretty damn well I am occasionally surprised by a little fact that I did not know or glanced over. Most of the time the fact is interesting but inconsequential overall, but sometimes the opposite is true and that factoid is pretty profound and changes what I thought was a solid perspective. That is the honest magic of knowledge and learning, especially when drinking in other perspectives that are new.
@@y2kplus9 What you meant to say at the end was "especially when drinking." =D
Ngl, i think the Geth uniting with the Quarians (idthat was the route you took) and, EDI in particular convinced the Leviathan AI to take a change of course
Cruiser with firepower of Dreadnought
And the Reapers called them Destroyer
Even they don't give a damn about ship classification
One of the narrators need to slow down to x0.75 speed
Seriously. He sounds annoyed that he even has to do this video. lol
@@everdash - Yeah, and the deep breaths almost seemed like sighs of irritation..
Nah
I'm curious how the AI defeated the Leviathon with no Reapers in the first place if the Leviathons were stronger
Vancouver born and raised when I saw Vancouver in the opening of me3 my jaw dropped.
Current Mass Effect weapons were week compared to the previous ones. Also, the reaper Ai found what they were looking for in Shepherd So it gave him the choice.
It wasn’t the same at all since the thralls did not give them that directive. They also address why they did it in the game, people conveniently seem to ignore that.
Leviathan - the only DLC I ever liked as much (maybe more) than OG game.
What I don't get is why the Reapers would harvest the Leviathans. The Leviathans need to use thralls to create AI and machines. All the reapers had to do was take away the thralls and the Leviathans are useless.
Why would the AI think like that?
But the Leviathans were the apex. The best. Harvesting all of them leviathan and thrall species a like ensures all are preserved as a singular driven will within the Reaper dataconflux.
So if the whole point of the harvests is to preserve organic life, then how come only 1 reaper is created after each cycle? Wouldn’t they want to create a reaper for each advanced race during that particular cycle? All other civilizations would be lost as they are turned into canon fodder and left to die.
Such an interesting writing and story, wow
I was a little disappointed that we didn't get to go head to head with the Reapers.
The destroyer reapers look like the keepers
It's got me since the PS3 days that so many people jumped on the bandwagon shitting on the mass effect 3 endings. The ending made total sense 90% of the players who completed mas effect3 didn't play the first or the 2nd game as the 3rd had multiplayer had a no RPG element if wanted an auto level up and a more story-driven side to attract the "casual" gamers. They probs thought the ending was a mess as the Prothean DLC and Leviathan ark were DLC and missing out on the first game. In both DLC's you learn from Javik and the prothhean AI there's a pattern to harvest and the user-friendly technology "Being the reaper built Mass Relay's and the fully maintained Citadel to guide advanced life along the route the reapers wanted and use the citadel as the main galaxy hub of government. The Leviathan made the catalyst millions of years ago which in turn made the reapers that cleansed the galaxy of advanced life and technology every 50k years. The whole ending was like a test whereas cycle races would have to pass with cooperation with synthetics to build the crucible that's why the reapers didn't destroy it right off the bat and didn't in other cycles. So showing the catalyst AI that this is the first cycle that has worked together and passed the test and working with synthetics and being the first person to make it to the citadel nexus where the AI lives. And a machine AI that's millions of years old that harvested trillions and thousands of races throughout the millennia a galaxy-wide test to show that organic life has evolved enough to make the decision being four to show we have evolved to police ourselves in sense. It really got me at the time and now people shitting on the trilogy ending whereas you can tell the vast majority of them have sunk many hours into the trilogy. I've put hundreds of hrs done all the side missions read all the lore and got the platinum on the original 3 and now the legendary edition. It's a shame the Prothean DLC and Leviathan DLC was out of the base game as both story arks were crucial to the whole trilogy story as a whole. And the only reason the Protheans didn't complete the crucible in the last cycle was not the reapers destroyed it as you learn from Javik the flaw of the protheans were the system of government being an empire more like a dictatorship and all races conformed to one doctrine one system, so when the Citadel mass relay was activated their entire one system government was cut off and so were the mass relays that what made our cycle different in this game. A machine intelligence that old with a directive to preserve life at all costs would have such a galaxy-wide test of sorts or test doesn't matter how many cycles it would have taken and that very ending and test is mass effect 3. Cooperation between species organics of all sorts and machines. And the decision in the end control destroys do nothing or joining would have been left to the first organic or synthetic life form to be the first to make it to the Citadel nexus. The AI only appeared to be a little boy as it was a projection from Shephard's mind as he was haunted by the child killed at the start of the game. If it would have been a Krogan that made it to the nexus it probs would have been a Krogan tark. It was a server decision on Bioware part to keep these two DLC's out of the base game as with lore implication for the trilogy can't be underestimated Javik recounts of the cycle's and the makers the leviathans and Javik explaining the beacons which in fact actually started of the trilogy by Shepard accidentally coming into contact with one on Eden prime, And the potheans beacons places on the 'primitives planets or close by like it was for us on Mars. The prothean DLC through Javik gave us answers to why they were there. Sorry for such a long comment but this trilogy spammed years and hundreds of hours of gameplay and even today CZcams channels shit on the conclusion whereas you can tell they are just jumping on the bandwagon and haven't put the hrs in.
Plenty of people played all three games and plenty of people were not happy having 3 basic choices that didn't resolve anything. That and some stupid kid telling us what we can and cant do. The fact that Bioware released DLCs after the fact to explain their original rushed, random endings, only proves that it wasn't resolved properly. That said, despite their lazy cute attempt at being "artsy" or "ambiguous" with the climax... The series up to that point is fantastic and I enjoy playing it everytime... Until the end.
@@nobody-wk6ej obviously you didn’t play all 3 games. What did you expect to happen at the end? The game is based on a AI made by the Galaxy most advanced race up to a billion years ago. As as you say some stupid kid the AI being the nexus or catalyst only appeared to Shepherd as a ‘stupid kid as seeing the kid get blown up leaving earth haunted shepherd throughout his dreams in the 3rd game. As I said if it was a different species that made it to the nexus the AI would be shown to them as something else. Seriously if you played the three games like properly what were you expecting? It’s a fucking RPG not a action game like many new comers thought it was in ME3. The game is based on a Task that’s gone on for hundred of millions of years. Control destroy or synthesis or 4th choice do nothing and let the cycle go on unchallenged.
@@nobody-wk6ej and I think you as missing the point the culture of gaming in the PS3 days when dlc became a thing it came out after games where cutting content out of their base game to sell as dlc after sale data mining on pc releases proved this. And a dlc like the leviathan wasn’t thrown together after the fact to cover up plot homes or the prothean dlc if you place the legendary edition where all dlc is part of the base game from the start you can tell by the flow of the story and dialog between NPCs this was cut content. And I’m not saying this is good it’s a shame that what gaming culture was back then and it funnies thus game for many. But c’mon man dlc thrown together after the fact to we all know dlc was shaved from the game back then
@@JinxTheCat_plays ... So... Let me get this straight... According to you anyone who doesn't like the end never played all 3 games??? I've played 1,2 and 3 and the Legendary Edition and so have millions of others. Are you sure you want to keep clinging on to that stupid idea? Yeah, no shit the game is about synthetics, that's not even the issue. Nor is the action/RPG element. This is about the sloppy stupid ending. Just because you love it, doesn't make the rest of us ignorant. You just sound like a desperate fanboy when you type such stupid things.
@@nobody-wk6ej No! My original comment was regarding having a critical plot point of the game being the Leviathan story ark and Jarvik recount of the previous cycle and the dialogue you have with him throughout the game and having him there when talking to the Prothean VI. The DLC wasn't put together it was shaved from the game. My point is it's a shame that a massive percentage of people never bought the DLC so didn't experience a vital story arc to the Mass Effect Trilogy. And secondly, my 2nd point was what were people expecting the ending to be? Meet the AI and he says congratulations you are the first now grab a beer and chill out? It's an RPG choice were given that had Galaxy wide consequences and wrapped up all races and their relation to the reaper and the 50k cycle. If you played it as an action game there was destroy the reapers. My 3rd point is it was the PS3 days devs got greedy when DLC came out mainstream and so many good games got their DLC shaved from the finished game and playing ME3 again in the Legendary edition with how the game was meant to be really shown.
Great video as always guys. Can you do one about Arthur Morgan from Red Dead 2?
WE ARE THE BEGINNING, WE ARE THE END, WE ARE BORG!!!!!
Harbinger was the first reaper, so who harvested the Leviathans to make Harbinger? The A.I.? With what? How did the 1st cycle go down with just Harbinger? The reapers aren't indestructible and the 1st cycle would no doubt be the toughest 1 to complete.
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The Reapers refer to themselves as "Nazara" which means "light, brilliance".
Were did u get that info ? Is it mentioned in the game play or codex? I've been trying to find out the reapers true name that was provided the prothien
@@starlord1637 Its mentioned a couple times in game. Specifically in ME2 Legion recalls that a construct called Nazara contacted them which turned out to be the Reapers. The Geth found that this construct is the supreme overlord of the Reapers, the animating spirit.
@@SP_A_C_E_D wow thank you for info I think I know which part ur talking im playing legendary edition rite now I still own the PS3 trilogy as well yet I'm still finding out new stuff here and there during game play thanks much cheers 👍👍
@@starlord1637 No problem. I think the most important context for Nazara's meaning is the finale of ME3, where you're interacting with that being of light that looks like a child. Its clearly the Reapers construct that is manipulating and indoctrinating you.
@@SP_A_C_E_D interesting ..an example of when the star child being of light mentions to Shepard about how they controlled the illusive man ( indoctrinated )
I wonder why the Geth also called Sovereign Nazara? Or was it Sovereign that refered himself that?
I wonder why sovereign didn’t acknowledge the leviathans since they were his creators unless BioWare didn’t originally intend for the reapers to have creators and it was only for me3 they made it up
Probably because he couldn't take on them alone since we see how they disabled a reaper in the DLC, or he just didn't know since in the DLC they too were looking for them or like you said they decide to make money off reapers' origin DLC
He probably has figured it was irrelevant. Sovereign wasn't necessarily created by the Leviathans either, likely having been born from the ashes of a cycle between now and then it's actually more likely he's the youngest Reaper. Created out of the Protheans and left as vanguard.
Could you do Krogan next?
If mass effect is on the table can you do one for element zero
I'm not going to lie I chose the God ending In my first play through Shepherd literally make sure everyone safe and no give up free will of synthesis. The geth and qurains become friends . Edi become an organic plus who to say that Shephard can't make a humanoids body like edi but better like imagine the possibility he or she could do .
How does edi become an organic?
@@ultimategohan1551 self aware and quest to find love
I don't know why but I like when there are two speakers
Terminators in Space. First the Leviathans created a murderous AI then the Quarians. When will organic life learn.
I like reaper sounds, reminds me of war of the worlds.
7:00 I did not understand this. Why couldn’t suicide bombers be used? I don’t remember any reason given in the game.
Just like we explain in the video. We do remember it being mentioned somewhere in ME3, don't remember if it was in a codex item, or a side conversation, but someone does tell the player that last ditch effort suicide runs don't work. Its left kind of vague, but basically, something about the engines automatically cutting or reversing or diverting course or something. The Reaper doesn't stop the ship from suicide running, something built into the Mass Effect tech (which they leave for us) on the ground level, makes it so that mass effect ships stop THEMSELVES from suicide bombing a reaper ship *shrug*.
I don't understand the bit about the sub-routines that prevented ships from initiating kamikaze attacks. That doesn't make sense to me.
From what I understand, for a device to be made, you would need to do the following: conceptualize, design, and produce something material from those two steps.
The Prothean caches probably contained both blueprints and samples the races could use to make their own stuff.
Now, those sub-routines could have only made it across if the Mass Effect races copied and pasted the schematics of the propulsion devices as is. To program a computer, to make functioning code, you would have to usually make it from scratch. (Or in the case of our Earth, get it from Stack Overflow). Any programmer worth their salt could have found out there's something weird in the guidance systems, unless of course again, they just copied and pasted it as is without any modifications whatsoever.
The only way for that to make sense is if the Reapers or the Leviathan AI already infiltrated the guidance systems of every ship in the Milky Way and inserted the malicious sub-routines.
i'd like to request the bionis and or the mechonis from xenoblade chronicles
Please no.
Those are integral to the plot of the game. And id rather beg them to play it first. After that. Fire away.
@@samreddig8819 i mean they don't seem to have cared about spoilers on anything else they've been asked to cover, but it's up to them
@@Skywolfhd20 i know but the story of xc1 and 2 relies heavily on unveiling knowlege as it progresses. Id rather watch that than a lore vid. Some games they're playing are nearing their end (pokemon springs to mind) perfect chance for us to request xenoblade de
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The difference is that dreadnoughts are built out of the chosen apex specifies at the time of harvest, according to the reapers. Meanwhile the destroyers were made of lesser species.
My guess is that less populous races (like the Elcor) are turned into destroyers.
Ohh! So.... space sky net!!!
I think they're a tiny bit more deadly but you know who knows
Don't forgot they're a Levithan Husk
Hmmm... Decisions, decisions 🤔😁✌️
What the hell is that even supposed to mean with the anti kamikaze ability?
Can you two do hellboy 😕
Any Subnautica fans here?
The Reapers were created by the Leviathans
Reapers & Leviathans
Reaper Leviathans. XD
@Velet Düşmanı Yeah, some of us at least
Tell me about Control you suave voiced nerdy bois you, i wanna know about the hiss or the foundation thing
I think it would been better if cycle was just reaper reproduction ritual.like leviathan said every cycle ends with new reaper
DUDE, SLOW DOWN. You could be a great auctioneer
Only the core is the harvested species all reaper shells will look reaper
What about the Andromeda
Can do subnautica and below zero leviathans ?
I never do control because that seems like a ticking Time Bomb yes Shepherd becomes Dai but how long until he starts thinking like an AI and besides the Reapers have done too much damage to be allowed to live
Have you read my suggestions?
We don't reply to any requests, but we do see them all and put them into a list for potential episodes in the future. :)
No.. it never occured to use that the leviathin is the one who made & controlled & could posses & wear the reapers? Maybe its the excuss it gave to continue using the reapers against them while living amongst all? It made & projected the universe & all worlds & the entire assembly & beyond... this should be something looked at properly
& the leviathan is the only sentient in exsistience, nothing & nowhere exsists with out it dince it projects everywhere & everything as everywhere as everyone
They couldn't just order their thrall species to not make ai? And if galactic tech is based on reapers who programmed sub routines, than no one woudl be able to fight them period right?
Mass Effect is probably the only fictional universe I wish I could live in....sans Reapers of course.
It's advanced enough in the future for me to understand and relate to, but not so far advanced I can't comprehend it and feel alienated.
Even at it's worst (aside from Reapers) overall its positively better in everyway compared to our time today.
- Healthcare and human life expectancy is around 140
- Economy is more egalitarian or provides more opportunities - even with Capitalist issues like corporate exploitation and immoral practices like Feros and Noveria workers still have more mobility than current times.
- Diverse cultures and life styles, even with the more bigoted and fearful political parties,, it is widely more recognized that getting along is overall more beneficial to all society(s) - Citadel and in some ways Omega shows this.
Then considering all the enjoyment and fruits of Scientific knowledge, discoveries and technological advancements.
- space travel from planet to planet and system to system is like going to today's airports and travelling state to state and country to country.
- get to see and experience all these other life forms, their cultures, entertainments etc...it expands one's perspective and that the human species is not alone.
- Information, entertainment, databases of movies, tv shows, books, audiobooks, other forms of communique, Extra-net etc...would make the World Wide Web and today''s personal devices feel antiquated and more a hindrance.
- Flying cars...enough said.
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I just don't get this, If Leviathan was telepathic and considered a god to the lesser species. Just imprint about AI's in the brain. Straight out killing them is a little extreme.
The reapers are right. In order for life to flourish in the universe the must do the harvest. Unlike the leviathans they don't want to conquer the universe and enslave everything to their own rule they want to have life develop on its own millions of times. Having all the ups and downs of life until the spieces kills almost themselves and causes a.i. to kill them. What if the reapers KNOW that certain races will ultimately kill themselves and let them live till there own Apex so that race knows they are dooming themselves. So they come out and end it and collect the knowledge of that race forever. Until one day billions of cycles later maybe the reapers will finally foresee and KNOW a race will not create a.i. and doom itself and let's them live. And becomes an ally. The reapers want to create something more advanced than them and the only way they know how to do it is for time to pass.
There's a big parallel between governments' reaction to Covid-19 and the reaction of the leadership of organics in Mass Effect. Both approach their adversary with casual skepticism and inadequate response...amusing how life imitates art.
As much as I liked the leviathans. I also felt they ruined the reapers. Reapers being essentially terminators or just rouge A.I. Took away from the HP lovecraft feel the reapers once had.
Wish we went with the original concept Drew had for the endings.
@@Winterfang if I want terminators I’ll simply watch terminator. Evil Machines rebelling against creators is so over done. I respect your opinion if that is what you like. I personally feel it ruins the more dark cosmic horror feel you get from them.
The original writer who gave us the first two games was taking is in a cool direction. I think sucks he didn’t write the third game. We got ends we got and that got a lot of back lash.
If you live underwater only then you have no access to fire, so no metallurgy. No underwater species will ever develop technologically. Leviathan should have at least shown up in the final battle, the relays make an endgame style big bate possible after all
The illusive man was hit with a prothian beacon or something similiar in a comic book, it did something like the synth ending did, and his friend was turned into a husk by serran, the villian in the comic.
Don't need fire. Just heat. That's not impossible to generate. And if you can generate and controls electrical currents with your mind like the Leviathans seem to be able to do, you can forge metal underwater. Boom. Myth Busted.
There are also plenty of relatively simple chemical compounds humans have devised that burn underwater like napalm B or Greek Fire.
"Reapers? We have dismissed these claims."
- A council of absolute idiot
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destroy is the only acceptable option.
The Biggest Letdown of the Century. Made a Lovecraftian, Incompressible, Terrifying Threat to the Entire Galaxy, and Turned them into a Bland Generic Sentient AI that is Working on Broken Logic. In a Franchise with Like 3 or 4 Different Sentient Machine Races
I chose synthesis because I made so many worst choices in the game that even after saving the galaxy from reapers the galaxy was literally doomed so I was like. Solve every single problem merge with machines, reapers happy, krogans happy, salarians happy and shepard dead😔
I mean
Good plan.
@@firetarrasque4667 😅😅 man i wish i made some other choices but my choices were so bad that the galaxy would be destroyed fighting each other😂😂.
Casper the stupid catalyst!
Great video though.
I just realized the reapers were created by the leviathans. Reaper leviathan. Mass effect and subnautica are in the same universe confirmed.
I beat you to it by a few months
Still remember the disappointing ending of ME3
The whole big controversy feels like 2 years ago to me not 9
Cry