What makes a perfect kick drum?
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- This week we'll look at what makes a versatile kick, how kick synthesis works in Kick2, what are some of the risk/reward trade-offs for taking weirder kicks, and just generally what to look out for when selecting a kick for your project. It's like wine tasting but for kicks!
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Contents:
0:00 Learning to listen to kicks
1:35 The first few kicks
4:41 How kicks are made in Kick2
5:51 The next few kicks
8:50 Kicks with secondary rhythms
9:30 The 909 kick
10:10 Atmospheres baked in
13:16 About fundamental frequency around 55Hz
15:07 Be very careful when you use kicks like this
15:58 Tonal kicks for tuning
22:51 Ultralong kicks as basslines
25:29 Sidechain pumping effects
26:20 Tuning a kick example
27:53 Discount code for the sample pack
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I can't overstate how much of a learning experience this has been. All of your videos that I have seen so far have managed to expand what I understand by providing just a tiny bit more knowledge that somehow covers an enormous conceptual gap of understanding. I honestly don't' know how you choose your topics for these videos, but you're finding a niche and filling it remarkably well. Again, thank you for taking the time to put this together!
Cheers Peter! :)
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I've watched dozens of videos of producers creating drum loops and only understood half of what they're saying.
I feel like this tutorial arms amateurs with the knowledge needed to actually take advantage of the rest of the educational content out there. It was very needed.
Thank you!
Man, you keep addressing my most important questions without me asking! I was literally searching for the opportunity to ask about your kicks because they're always so good! And the kickdrums topic in general is indeed a very important one. Thanks for all this!
I was impressed at how quickly you could identify what was special about each of these kicks, especially with regard to whether they hit you in the chest or the gut. I can usually only categorize them as "usable" or "rubbish".
I can usually only crank up the distortion and categorize it as "ALLES NAAR DE KLOTEEEEE"
cause you are noob and he's professional, simple as that. No rocket science
Really usable = chest, usable = gut, have to listen 2x = rubbish 😂 u got this friend 🫶
You're really amazingly good at explaining whatever topic you decide to cover.
I guess it's because you probably also love to dance, so you're feeling the music instead of only understanding or listening to it.
Thank you for all your amazing content!
He is a great teacher in producing of music, I have took a course the industrial techno, it's really great course and excellent approach. Recommending this course who is like techno! Appreciate it Oscar for this course!
Appreciate this Oscar. You describing how these kicks hit the body (chest v gut) explains their impact in such an effective way. I didn’t realize it but I’ve been dividing sounds this way subconsciously.
I love all of the advice that you get on your channel. You’re definitely one of the most helpful channels out there.
I spent 3 hours listening to kick samples yesterday. Perfect timing.
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Perfect topic. Which has indeed puzzled and intrigued me loads at times. Thank you for discussing it here. 👍
I love you channel. Thank you so much for teaching us so much. Your videos like this are perfect in between to always gain knowledge or to still learn, if there is a day where you feel non productive or not motivated.
This. Brilliant idea for a video. Things that took me years to notice and start understanding, explained in less than 30 minutes.
Exactly my topic these days, matching spooky and wonderful. Thank you for this and the many other tutorials!
Wow! You're definitely in the right business, brother. You've really exposed the unique personality of each kick. Amazing information ⚡⚡
Great review and sample pack. I will check it out.
This was SO useful, as a beginner producer this is the EXACT video i've been looking for, in order to proceed comfortably with my first projects
good luck and have fun :)
This is brilliant... A real poem. Thank you for this... thing. I will most probably not make a kick drum, ever but I think this is precious anyway!
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I like this analogy. To take the next step, although there are entire galaxies of texture, flavour, and quality available in retail wine, brewing one's own has benefits not otherwise available.
Love to patch different percussion from scratch. I appreciate learning the tasting terminology. Very helpful, even as a diy brewer / eurocrack addict.
My favorite software drum is Trummor2 by Vult in vcv rack. So many sound sculpting parameters, and it spits out a copy of the amplitude envelope, which is very handy for ducking.
Lovely wine tasting of kicks! Subscribed!
Great video, made me realize that I gravitate towards the more weird, exotic sounding not so versatile kicks!
You're amazing, it's so well explained, thank you !
Great content, glad I subscribed
I think doing this is really useful since it becomes easier to recognice what kicks are used for which types of songs when u listen to music
Watched with big pleasure. Thankyou.
...be mindful, not careful... - great advice.
As always a joy to watch and learn from. I love how you are so respectful when listening to every kick.
As an aside, I had always EQed out the low end of kicks to make space for the bass. Should I (in general) side chain the bass instead and leave the kick's low end?
The audiotent kicks are amazing that’s what I’ve been using for years
Great idea and useful for everyone who wants to produce electronic music.
Amazing... as always! Thanx! You are brilliant 🖖🏿👽👌🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
BOOM! LOVE this brotha! Thank you!
i love this approach!
Yooo Oscar, bedank voor de code! I had this on my radar for a while, especially for Babicz's contribution to the sample pack but it was to expensive. BTW, trying to recreate a kick with Kick2 is a good exercise.
Wow, thank you so much for this video!
I recently played my first public live set \o/ and I came away from it thinking that my kick drums really needed some work :D
Always like your content. A good follow on from this would be a deep dive into the replationship between different styled kicks (poppy/deep/long tail/short) and complimenting basslines.
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Ooo like a (specific) ‘rumble-tasting’ party/workshop , but covering general kick practices in different genres would be great to cover too!
when you pulled up kick2 i actually cheer'd lol great plug
Very useful, to the point and educational. Thank you.
One small comment. Try to suppress the sound of you tapping the keyboard while playing the sounds for auditioning. It can get a little distracting at times.
I came here to say this. The constant keyboard clicks made it hard to really focus on the pure kick sound. I made it about 8 min in before i gave up. I feel next time if you do this for claps or snares try and not record the audio of the keyboard and just dub in a voice over later.
@@Nova_Afterglowthat would actually be ideal , but if it requires a lot of time ...can just sidechain compress the voice-over by the audio coming from the DAW and/or use a cardioid microphone.
I found this helpful. If you did a similar video for snares I would watch it.
This was great, thank you!
That was a lot more enjoyable than I expected 😅
Great tutorial! Would be awesome to see your approach to sampling Kicks!
I didnt even watched the video but liked it already. Excellent concept and fine skills to teach complex concepts. Well done Oscar and thank you !
Its actually better for the youtuber that you like mid way through the video because if you like a vid straight after clicking on it CZcams does not count it as in the algorithm.
@@HOLLASOUNDS hello you ! Thank you for the heads up ;)
@@gannein7112 😀
U re the feeling behind the technique
This was awesome - thak you!!! :)
Hallo Oskar, I'm having so much fun learning stuff on your channel.
Thanks again😊
Man, this was a really good vid, and I'm adding it to the music production bag o' tricks.
Thanks mate thats so helpfull. Wanted to make a drum rack with kicks as a preset and noticed i dont know when a kick sounds good for the kind of music i make. Every kick was somehow good in some scenario but i could not make a good selection based on my needs. That will help alot
Great lecture.
The way you describe all these kicks makes them sound delicious
best 28 minutes ever!
Awesome video! So much useful information - I feel like a kick connoisseur 🍷🧀
Interesting Bassology !
Thanks 🍷
Love your nails! I hate doing them myself. Im so bad and it gets messy lol. But what coincidence! I was just looking for some kick tutorials. How lovely! ♥
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The Recondite Kick at 22:18 would be perfect for Industrial, quite Lo Fi but also white noisy, you can put a Reverb on it to freeze it infront of the white noise sound via automation, so that the white noise is audible throughout the whole track until you unfreeze it.
who is stopping you? :D (i can send you the kick if you want it)
@@lisotunali3807 Hell yea
Gotta love the good ol kick drum!
Thank you for this video, you touch on very needed subjects. Really appreciate how you explain things ina very tangible way. A small minor thing - whenever you play the samples, there is this background chugging noise that is a bit distracting.
I do remember times when swapping KICK samples on AKAI MPC 3000:) over and over and couldn;t decide which one to take... now I got Roland TR8 and I get the kick I want in a second...it's simply choice between 808/909/707/606 and 808 and 909 variations - plus decay and tune and attack knob - it saves me hell of the time when choosing right kick for the job, important fact is house/techno edm, dance music - kick is 99% 4 to 4, so not much combination with groove, but to choose a good kick for the job is important thing. Great video by Oscar as always!
I was thinking about doing exactly the same. Still doubting between tr6s and 8s.
@@marcosrotllan I got tr8 as this is THE DRUM MACHINE:), where tr6s and tr8s are something in between, a bit of a synth, sequencer, sample player...menu diving kills music...:) TR8 got no save/load, no menu diving at all, its just WYSIWYG, improved form of original ROland TR808/909 - with faders and 2 f/x, and audio interface, and SC input:). I like instruments without menu, my eyes are getting bad:/
@tresporros Have you got the plugin version?
Thanks great stuff
in old times, with AKAI MPC, I loved to tune every kick sample....mostly down, but you can turn so so kick into beautiful beast...it makes a big difference when down tuning samples (kick especially)
Agreed 👍🏼 let the magical mpc converters do their work
Beautiful, amazing you are. Thank you
you are a legend
Wine tasting for kicks. Love it!
Oh Robert, he is brilliant
Can you make so tutorial like this just for techno kicks? Because I'm struggling with the transients. Don't get it like the big artists like Ramon tapia or hi-lo... Would be suuuuper cool and thanks for your tutorials!
Man thanks for posting stuff like this! Your keyboard noise blurs the transients of the kicks tho :(
I bought the pack. All in all it is good. But the Robert babicz ones sound very similar kinda exactly the same, but different in length. And there is a bleeding from a drumloop in it aswell. I didn't listen to all of them yet, but there are very good kicks in it. I would recommend it too.
Oscar, LOVE your vids. You always inspire and encourage me to learn more w/ EM production!
I really appreciated this video. However, I have a sprinkle of constructive criticism for you: ESP with this vid where u are tasting the kicks and replaying them in fast successions, could you find a way to mute or dim the sound of your keyboard clicks? The vid is still successful, but I found that the clicks slightly took me away from fully experiencing kicks. Esp w/ the kicks that have rumbles and tails that have mid-high(er) textures and frequencies.
Sounds SUPER nitpicks, I’m so sorry; but hey, sound is the bread n butter of music production. 🤓
Thank you Oscar, for your extremely valuable vids, keep at it💯
Great video. I've been asking Ableton Live developers for years now to have the Library indexer index the long string in the "Info Text" panel - so that, imagine you typed out your description of each of these samples in their info panel - live would index it, and then searching those words would return the item you're describing. Instead, they created 7 coloured categories and called it a day. FML. 😩 The custom Info Text is accessed via right-clicking a sample/VST within your session. The info text also seems to "stick" to the sample if you place it into your User Library then re-use it.
Thank you for the video, perhaps a demonstration on what to do with the layering, (chopping them to suite) or even what sounds to match the naughty drum kick layers with... He ehe
Glad to see one of mine made the cut 😅
Hahaaaa legend 😁😁😁
i'm crediting this video for single handedly creating kick drum ASMR
Great video. I produce dnb and find it difficult making kick drums without the click and body sounding totally disconnected. I use kick 2 but I wondered if there was a library of transients and clicks I could download to test out
Zeer goed bedacht!
Love this video! Quick question, have the majority of these kicks already been tagged with the Key on them or did you have to manually add the Key to each kick? Also does anyone know if Mixed In Key or another company has an app to automatically tag the Key's to single kick hits?
Amazing!!!
And until when is it possible to take advantage of the coupon discount?
How did you learn to analyze samples so finely ? 😲
Master Oscar 🙏
Hello Oscar , thankyou fot gr8 education videos ! What us the name of tha track in the beagining of this video? Imprasive stuff!!
Thankyou about all!!!
we need this video but for snares
Reminds me of this one time me and my mate where discussing big room house drops, as he thought big room has the heaviest” in dance music. I couldn’t wrap my head around that though, as being more of techno head I’ve always considered those rumbly banging 909 type kicks to be “heavier”, most of the big room kicks sounded too ‘squelchy’ to me and not heavy at all. Made for an interesting convo nonetheless.
Yeah "size" is so psychological when it comes to mixdown, relative volumes, sound design, it's freaky :)
Great video! When demonstrating transients, it could be helpful to just highlight the specific area you want to show and hit Ctrl+Space, that way we will only hear the part we should focus on =)
What are you doing here? 😁
@@adrenakrohm I don't know, I'll show myself out. There's no place for psytrance here
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I'm not sure why you chose to be the 'UNDERDOG' maybe with another name, your subscription numbers would be way up up. You deserve a much bigger support numbers. YOUR ARE ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE BESTEST on CZcams
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You should’ve slowed down the master tempo to slowly hear the kicks with the 2 parts going on. Great video!
Good info Tutorial was more interested in the color you chose for your nails ??!!
is it possible to create hard techno kicks (like alignment) with kick 2?
your spacebar sounds great
As a wine professional, I'm already intrigued...
As someone with at least 300 kick samples, I'm hoping to purge most if I can! After all, can't we tweek them like a MOFO?
Do a tutorial on making hardcore/gabber kicks
I agree with another commenter that the keyboard clicks are distracting when trying to listen to the kicks. Other than that the video is fantastic!
Listening to the space bar key
is that GR1 avbove REV2?
Are these shrimp on your (green) acoustic panels?
Good content , only thing that annoyed me was that Spacebar sound 😁
Your ear is amazing. I learned a lot and I appreciate you Amigo. Thank You!
whats the background music in the beginning?
Torc - Rave tears, check out the torc soundcloud :)
We ❤️ you Oscar 😁😁😁
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Just a small suggestion: could you try to limit the volume of your keyboard in the mix? Especially for a video like this, it‘s a bit distracting
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Great video! It would maybe be nice if you’d put a little gate on your mic, so we wouldn’t here all the clicks of your mouse and keyboard..