RATIRL shows why Shutdown Bounties are BROKEN
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Fun to see rat is finally trying that korean mid strat
Midbeast would be proud
he should try first strike mana flow band
@@atsukki try to stack passive without hail of blades
@@rat2316 but but but... korea strats!
@@rat2316 nah bro. First strike is KOREAN META
A Nasus player complaining that a slow is too strong is priceless.
bUt yOuRs iS aOe
wufo is the goat of supporting content
Well he aint wrong, twitch slow is literally same as nasus but AOE, its nasus his biggest ability, without it he cant gapclose to enemies
@@noxianmind706 nasus takes ur attack speed as well, impossible to fight if your not a bruiser or mage.
@@noxianmind706 you have to have fuck Ton of ap to get that as tw. Nasus gets it just because
If only RATIRL had a 1K shutdown when he left us. fly high king ❤️
And now we watch it
If he had first strike it would make perfect sense.
Totally expected this to be Rat with 1000k shutdown on himself, ints and loses the game XD
Oh no! Spoilers :0
Yea I my self for many months thought they should move shutdown value from champions to objectives. Cause you can actually protect those with correct play.
you can actually defend players, its just more difficult.
@@OsirusHandle you dont get it. Your team is ahead so logically correct play is to be in offense not deffense. You should fight for all objectives. You realizs how hard it is, if your frontline has 1k on their head. However if all that mattered was outcome of the fight things would ve been diffrent. Splitpushing would be a thing again instead of just constant aram mid.
@@OsirusHandle Shutdowns doesn't even make sense in the first place.
If you've been killed->your/teammate's fault->you deserve to be behind
If you fucked up you should not be rewarded for that.
It's only there so that casual fuckers dont cry every game, cuz some gigachad is destroying them.
Just like aimbot(aim "assist") for disabled(console) players in warzone. Just so that casual fuckers who's playing with a beer in their left hand, and their controller in the right can outplay the best of the best PC gigachads.
@@championabovechampions5550 game is more fun for more players if its less snowbally. too much snowball and every game is a boring stomp
@@OsirusHandle Make being better punishing then it is not fun as well.
You can outplay and kill someone like 3 times and then they just claim your bounty and it is as if you died 3 times as well in terms of gold. We reached to the point that you need to int smart as well to get rid of your bounty.
Wufo games are always a banger
I'm really glad recap had this much footage. It feels like rat's still here ❤
Shutdown should be capped depending on the characters, but riot won't be willing to admit that champions that must makes plays and commit can't have 1k shutdowns on their face, so they'll just buff them instead
He streamed so much, even after five month Recap still has contents in stock. Forever remember. Mr Earl.
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@@yusufe8652 How did he do it?
I only caught the end of the game on stream today so ty recap for the fast upload speeds
Shutdowns are the only reason I won 40+ games in a row on a smurf (Started in bronze ezmoney), you either win as a team because everyone won lane, or you stomp your lane but your team ints the entire game? Don't worry, just take all the shutdowns and get 2 free items and 1v9 the game because shutdowns are fucking broken.
Comeback mechanics shouldn't exist, why do we get punished for being better? The only champions who reliably get shutdowns are the ones who either go in and risk dying just to deal damage and try and get kills, or are the squishies who already get targeted and now just get everyone suiciding to get 1k gold when they probably only give 200. Every time I made a huge comeback from an unwinnable position, it was because I got 1k shutdowns, I still remember the time I got around 2k from one guy because he was just so fed that the bounty didn't have time to lower when he respawned and died to me again, suddenly it went from "I'm strong but need to be careful" to "Oh now I have my items, GG".
You did a good think with that 200 years brain box of yours Rito.
Rat should try running first strike.
'It makes a lot of sense.' lmao
I would like to see top players try LOL without shutdowns, without tower plates and without passive runes.
It would force everyone to play waaay more tactical and would make the games less snowbally.
Maybe because im an old Dota player, but the gold and snowball potential has always been unbalanced in LOL imo.
Yet dota has turtling, that is beyond broken lol
If only Mr Earl was still around to see the Koreans are taking his twitch mid to higher levels. RIP Mr Earl, thank you Recap for keeping his memory alive.
Idk why but the joke about Wufo riding to the uni on camel made me laugh so hard xD
it also doesn't make sense a lot of champions can't do as much with a gold lead or die really easily or are in a risky position so a 1k bounty seems dumb and then some champions snowball really hard so it doesn't make sense that the trajectory of a game can make a huge difference say if your akali mid got a couple shutdowns vs if your support blitz somehow last hit them.
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When i tried out AP twitch im really surprised of how much true dmg i deal its not even fair
06:57 Ezreal ghosting or what ?
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RIP Mr. Rat 🕊. we will miss the good content
Wufo playing a champion thats basically a form of dog is insanely fitting smh.
Basically you right. But to win this game was support gap and the extra gold. That Nami boost you a lot meanwhile Ashe was a piece of zhit gakshsjsgs
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Honestly just change the bounty system to what dota has, the higher a persons gpm, the more gold they’re worth, and the more assist gold they give upon death. Obviously not numbers as high as dota, bc their items cost more and they have buybacks and what not, but cap it at something like ~500/600 gold for gpm and assist gold staying the same as it currently is.
Would like to see some sort of change like shutdown gold totals scaling slower with melee champs, at least tried out for a bit. Would make evasive melee champs like Akali and Ekko a little crazy, but they can be nerfed appropriately if the system changes are overall liked
Everything that is a potential buff to assassin, must not be done
yep its crazy to play against sylas 14/1 and yet manage to win that game , also one man cannot carry the team if they really suck at it
thats not the point though, Rats team got 3k gold off the few kills they landed on sylas which is what turned the game rapidly.
Its not like everyone else on the other team was hard losing and just sylas was 1v5, the bounty system put sylas in a poition that despite being the giga carry he could only carry by risking throwing thousands of gold at them. whats even more crazy is sometimes you are better off inting into someone who can't use your bounty to carry the game (give shut down to janna or yuumi so the nocturn can't get 800 gold + off you)
Thank you
Sylas shutdowns gave the other side like 4k gold for 4 deaths
Man fr Jesus is a cool guy he allowed rat to upload videos from heaven, rest in peace 🐀
nasus complain about twitch w while nasus w with reduce attack speed and scale up to 95 % over duration(basically stun) with infinity q stack while on tank meta XD
Tbh, I will go against the norm and say I enjoy the bounty system. It gives the chance of comeback a meaning.
i had a dream that rat passed away in a violent car accident… i haven’t woken up yet 😢
It's crazy to think that it's been half a year without him
Thank you rat I will definitely not be getting one. Merry christmas!
The good thing about this ashe dude is he will argue that his build is actually the best build.
This match not even 12 hrs ago damn
everytime i have a bounty i split push but my team cries, then when i get focused or need to play suppper safe i get flamed
clasicc league gameplay
Rat I see you trying this new Korean mid strat you think it’s better then twitch supp?
Maybe just don't int if you're ahead? crazy how bounties make it so that if you're behind in a game you have an opportinuty to come back if the enemy team fucks up, which should be harder to do for them since they're ahead, almost as if it were a great positive mechanic for the game and allowed for games to not be over after the game going bad in the first 10 minutes (even if people with shitty mentals will spam ff 15 it's not almost never the case the game is lost)
It’s not even a “don’t int” situation, it’s literally a “if you die once with this it’s the same as them getting a penta” killing 1 person once gives you 4 1/3rd kills worth of gold just because they made a single misplay after getting fed
Not to mention, if both teams have someone who's already ahead and the ahead player collects a 1k bounty, the game is usually just over.
melee champs should have lower bounties than ranged
why is the quality so.. not quality.. is it my monitor or
youtube viewers dont know what happend the next 5 games xD
Enlighten me plz
We will never know :(
League really like comeback mechanics so you get punished for stomping or 1v9ijg
Wufo is king
"why is dua lipa mid" sent me
there is a rat on my screen!
ok
Since they added the bounty system i thought it was a bad idea, its like they punish you for playing well. I know that is for make the games combackable but, if you dont like to lose then improve and maybe you will win more games, is stupid to punish good players and reward bad ones. For example, someone can have the better laning phase of their lives and leave the lane 4/0/6 and that doesnt matter bc the bounty system. Only my opinion here
Just don't die 4head
Ok I will improve my ability of getting good players who don't go 0/5 lane no matter which lane I play
@@boskikayn4167 if that is the case no one who plays league can be high elo bc of that theory, i understand what you say and it happens to me, but i dont thing the solution is to punish good players, for example i am in gold and that is bc i am shit in the game, but i dont think the solution is to punish good players in the enemy team.
@@Dkdnxia yes it is. The whole system was made to make games like those winnable. If you're shit at the game that's your problem and that's the reason why your enemy laner will get bounty after going 4/0 vs you in lane. So that the actually good player on your team can at least try to carry. And there is also other side of it. After you went 0/4 you give less gold so that the enemy can't just farm you for 300g every minute
@@realiance4266 yeah i get your point but, i think the players should be rewardedfor being good, for exaple, if i leave lane 0/4 at 12 minutes means that he killed me 4 times and he get 1200 gold from that, and probably he gets 700 gold bounty meaning that, if i kill him only one time, all the effort from my oponent is going to be useless bc i get 1000 in one kill, nearly the same my oponent had for laning very good for 12 minutes
Adcs specially should not have shutdown. Anyone with lowest defence stats doesn't get shutdown.
NICE HAT!
I totally get where rat is coming from but...
If not bounties, what else?
You need to give more gold to the losing side, or every single game would be decided in the first 10 minutes.
Honestly looking for suggestions
imo shut downs shouldnt be more then 2x the gold- going 3x+ just makes the game unplayable at some point when you are fed- you go from steam rolling to literally having to play like a puppy so you dont give an insane amount to the potential carry of the enemy team. legit running it down on the enemy support is a strat on that and its sad
I'm kinda fed 3/3 and meanwhile enemy sylas is 14/1 😂😂
Kinda fed is nashors at 10min, ungodly monster is Night Harvester, Deathcap, pen boots, 10 stack dark seal, and alternator at 12min, we're just looking at the scale of how fed, rat hitting power spike early or sylas one hitting any champ he looks at wrong
Ah yes play better and get fed, but you aren't allowed to make any risky plays or you just lose the game when the enemy gets a 1000 gold shutdown
1k gold is 3-4 kills but they need like 7 8 kills to get it
Shutdown gold may be too big, but enemy team was ahead 3500 gold 1 minute before you ended the game.
I see your point. It's frustrating that Sylas might lose gold even if he wins 1v2. But then his team should be able to win 4v3 and get gold/objective from that.
I guess they could make the highest bounty 600 instead of 700, but not much lower than that IMO.
As much as I hate shutdown gold rat and his team played it smart since midgame and just didn't allow enemy team to do anything
if the enemy is that far ahead you should just lose.
Issue here is the Rakan Support and overall lack of CC. He didn't win this game from bounties, the game is so very different if Rakan gets a flanked R. Even in the video, the only thing rat had to look out for was a Sylas E and Ashe R. If Rakan is Amumu or Blitzcrank, the game ends much sooner. Even then though, going 14/1 in 15 minutes in high elo is extremely rare (Check Makkro or Baus for example).
Obv the video is meant for fun and not actual discussion on bounties.
@@wediscoit1989 That's very subjective. Riot obviously disagrees with you. I find it sort of beautiful that comebacks are possible, because I don't think early game champions should be rewarded too much. I do, however, agree that some absurd comebacks are possible because of this system.
@@NotedEcho Yeah, there were ways for the enemy team to win the game, and they didn't use those opportunities.
I know the video is for fun, but Rat has commented on the subject several times and he clearly thinks that shutdown gold should be changed.
the sylas is lider o:
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Hello Mr Rat
500 cap would be fine
Everyone pray for rat, he was a blessed soul so sad he got into that car accident
To win in lol you don't need to be very good but very consistent. Making 8 great plays and 2 bad ones is worse than making 10 decent plays. Kind of stupid but it's the way the game is made.
This is intended though. Did you want this game to be unwinnable?
The classic 2 kill bounty is even more stupid than 1k shutdown.
Ive seen people hitting the bounty threshhold with 1 kill and good farm.
League has become a participation trophy game.
Yo wtf did rat pass away?
I mean, bounties encourage bad players. You get to be lazier and still come out ahead if you know what to look for lol
No they don't, they encourage NOT being lazy when you're ahead, you have to die or lose a teamfight for bounties to matter, and guess what you shouldn't be dying or losing if you're already ahead enough to have bounties
@@lucasnadamas9317 No reason to get ahead if you know you're the better player and will kill then for their bounty. The player with the bounty has to play safe the ENTIRE GAME. You get to sit there and wait for your moment to strike. You can fuck off and afk farm for 20 minutes and there's 1k waiting for you in the pocket of an assassin that thinks you've forgotten about him when in reality you've been keeping tabs on him because he's the only player that can stop you.
@@lucasnadamas9317 They game is built to make you think you're doing well. You're just capitalizing on the ego of the opposing team. When they stop trolling and start thinking, you aren't good enough to find lethal. That's why you see a 12-3 LeBlanc down 2 levels on enemy viktor
What if sylas went full tank?
he would lose lol?
In my opinion, that’s fine. Cause something has to counter one of your teammates feeding so hard. You should get a percentage of the gold he’s spent each kill in my opinion lol
yes but when ur mid yasuo is Inting and lets say xerath mid randomly has 1k bounty and then ur adc collects it who is already ahead and he just 1v9's of that, the bounty shouldnt only be for the player who inted against the xerath so the yasou can get back into game if anything
@@DensenBro yeah and then take 25% for an assist and 20% for kills so if the fed xerath spends 4300 from macro and micro then you’ll get 860 but if some got an assist they’ll get 215 and you’ll get 625
@@DensenBro 25% all around might be better
@@DensenBro that also kinda fcks up smurfing too. If you’re facing someone who’s spent 4300 and it’s 25% you get 1075 or you’ll get 810 and they’ll get 269 if your mid lanes who’s behind 3 levels and is silver like you helps and the enemy xer is actually plat or diamond, you may still have a chance cause the team gets fed
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I think I'm blind bc I can't read rats league chat at all
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That’s why I cannot play 1v5 anymore in this game
pick vladimir
"unskilled". Yea it is unskilled that a fed player got killed multiple times when they had a clear massive advantage, also lost a baron that they shouldn't have. Bounties are one of the VERY FEW healthy mechanics left in the game, leave it alone.
Whofo9 xDDDDD.
Thank you mr recap
Bounties are so fucking broken just reduce the value it’s so stupid dying 3 times and being worth 1k each time
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i love how riot doesnt listen to players like rat and drut, just fucking revert the 12.10 durability cringe patch and do something with the bounty system and the game is mostly fixed
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The thing with bounties is, you have to be able to carry and not die. If you do put yourself in a position that you might die, you have to be able to trade something that is worth your bounty. If you trade one for one cause you forced something when you have a bounty, the game is just punishing you for being dumb and not playing recklessly. Silas in this game died a couple times when he had bounties cause he was playing too aggressive without knowing where everyone was cause he thought he was huge, giving up a 1k and 950g bounty.
I rather there be bounties than no bounties cause if Silas continued to play that way, super aggressive and dying 1 for 1, after getting that far ahead, it is basically impossible to stop him. Cause you'll always have to bring multiple people to stop him from doing what he wants. And even then, if he trades 1 for 1 cause he's that far ahead when you bring multiple people, as long as his teammates are competent, they'll be getting objectives elsewhere. Ashe wouldn't have been as useless if she was in a side lane pushing when 2-3 people had to worry about Silas.
homie is behaving like this and then cries about bad teams, i love this game
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you don't have a point... how else would teams come back to the game?!!
Yeah the shutdown system sucks. Especially on early game champs like Pyke
lol = exploit and dumb design.. its more likely fortntie dev helped design this trash game now a days
its fake.
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