Former Boeing inspector alleges ‘scrap’ parts ended up on assembly lines
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- A former Boeing quality-control manager alleges that for years workers at its 787 Dreamliner factory in Everett, Washington, routinely took parts that were deemed unsuitable to fly out of an internal scrap yard and put them back on factory assembly lines. In his first network TV interview, Merle Meyers, a 30-year veteran of Boeing, described to CNN what he says was an elaborate off-the-books practice that Boeing managers at the Everett factory used to meet production deadlines, including taking damaged and improper parts from the company’s scrapyard, storehouses and loading docks. #CNN #news
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Please someone watch over this guy's safety. I'm afraid he will be involved in an "accident"
Oh stuff it
He safe trust us
EXACTLY! Right out of my mouth.
AMEN
The first thing Boeing whistleblowers should tell the press is "I am NOT depressed, am in great health and have NO intentions on EVER taking my own life."
2 Boeing whistleblowers have died questionably. I hope he stays safe.
Police official investigation first whistleblower was suicide. Note was in his hand writing, second one medical issue. Go by evidence not feelings. Not trying to defend Boeing. CEOs need to go to jail.
@alexrebmann1253 jobs can literally kill people from stress. Why did that person commit suicide?
@@alexrebmann1253you think his suicide had no cause? Of course Boeing is responsible
@@alexrebmann1253 Yes because murders are never covered up to look like suicides....let me guess you work for Boeing.
@@rooster1012 No I do not work for Boeing. I worked for Yellow Freight. A company that closed doors last year because of CEO greed
I worked in quality in a watch making company. Even within our business, where the worst case scenario is someone arrives late at an appointment, putting non conform parts back into the ok inventory is a big no no. This report is nuts. This goes beyond incompetence. People need to go to jail.
Watch your mouth mate. They are now hiring hitmen to delete any blow back
I briefly worked QC at a place that I soon realized only treated *some* parts they made for planes with aerospace standards; half of the machinists' personal tools weren't even numbered in the gage & tool traceability system, a *requirement* for aviation manufacturing. The machine tools and gages were, but even someone's personal screw guns and stuff are required to be traced, too. The products were just cabin interior cosmetic stuff for some SEA luxury commuter service, nothing structural or otherwise related to flight, but still. Had to leave, & scratched aviation QC off the list over the general vibe it gave me. It's pretty sad when electronics manufacturers are more exacting and accountable about even something as minor as a spring clip, but Boeing is over here just literally putting nonconforming parts into planes.
Fr Boeing acting like this tier 3 auto manufacturer I worked for, we totally just wiped some parts down with a shiny spray and sent it. They were mostly just aesthetic panels for the interiors of cars lmfao. Boeing is insane
@@HanTheProphet Basically every cabin trim piece we made. lol
You’re assuming this is true.
The guy was fired, his credibility is shit.
They know exactly where those parts are. There is something called “traceability”.
Not necessarily true, in theory they should know but that’s only if they are actually following procedures
Ya but the CEO makes 45 million a year
Nope, another whistleblower said they pressure employees not to log faults and violations on paper/emails specifically to avoid a paper trail.
Now, why would Boeing do that? $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Becau$e of rea$on$.
CREAM
To increase CEO's salary by 45%.
hope this guy won't end up like the other Boeing whistleblower just before appearing in court...
Very disturbing
Greed is a trait Americans cherish as a virtue.
Not just Americans, this country was stolen and colonized on greed LoL
Yeah, like this doesn't happen all over the world 😂😂😂. Grow up, kid
@@RomanesEuntDomus. Shalom
@@RomanesEuntDomus.No it does not. Poor deflection
Shut the entire company down and indict and convict
We can’t do that. This is a government sanctioned company that feeds the United States so much money and gives the USA a great deal of the power we are able to wield around the world.
trump says we need less oversight ....nothing to see here lol
First, we believe in innocent until proven guilty and second you can’t shut the entire company down even if they were guilty and liable you would have to ask yourself what damages were suffered. You would have to look back over the companies entire history and say how many aircraft have fallen out of the sky because of this, and they have a great record. Don’t think about it in that capacity because of the events that have made the news but how many times has an airplane taken off and landed and there was nothing to say but see you when you get back from vacation.
Also, you can’t shut the company down for one reason guess what they make for us that we all use every day they make military grade aircraft and they do it specifically for the United States we don’t let any other company do it because we only want an American company doing it . If you shut them down who’s going to make your military aircraft you don’t want China to do it.
It’s a case of Too Big to Fail
Shutting it down is nuts. Boeing would cause economic disruption around the world. It needs to be taken over, not shut down.
Correction: Fasteners are not inconsequential!
Yup, like the bolts that “fasten” the door to the plane. Good old CNN
Given what Boeing does to whistle-blowers, grateful to this man: first emails attempting accountability then eventually brave enough to speak up!
Boeing has put all of us at risk!
Boeing, like Airbus, used to adhere to strict quality standards. What has happened in recent times can only be attributed to management wanting to maximize profits, ebit, shareholder value, etc - the results of that greed are now apparent! Shame on Boeing management!
It's all about the Almighty Dollar! Disgusting!
THIS IS AN ATTRIBUTE OF EVERY COMPANY NOWADAYS NOT JUST BOEING
@@brokentobuiltAirbus does not have these problems...
@@frankstollar8492 tell me airbus hasnt cut overhead costs in order to stabilize their company in the recent years and then prove it
@@frankstollar8492 airbus has morals
Coffins with wings.
Airborne? More like Airdead.
It's past time to hold Boeing to account.
Only brand new parts for public airplanes is beyond mandatory, anything less is negligent manslaughter
I thought they only had a supplier's quality issue. To my knowledge you normally don't scrap, or judge a non-conformed part you bought to be scrapped. You return them so the supplier sorts out their own shit.
So these were parts they made in-house?
I 'll stop flying in Boeing planes.
So what planes will you fly in? Is there an airplane manufacturer you trust?
@@dm-31024 For now I dont trust Boeing and that is what matters to me.
@@dm-31024 Airbus is the world leader now.
@@dm-31024Airbus is top notch.
CNN: captioning please. Do Better. We should not have to repeatedly ask you for captioning. ALWAYS have English captioning, please.🙏
About 10 years ago, I had lunch with a Boeing engineer in St. Louis who expressed sincere concerns about things that were going on in that facility. I don't recall much detail now. But I remember the look of concern on his face.
🤔If you ever worked somewhere as a employee the message from your Manager is "It's Cool just get the 💰"!
Sell Boeing to Berkshire Hathaway for $1.
Complete corporate culture change badly needed!
50k doesn’t sound like an escaped defect, sounds like the process
But, but, but.. corporations are always more efficient!
They brough in incredibly well paid and incredibly bad management that sought to fill their pockets. Even if they are let go, they will still earn mansions and yachts for bringing an excellent company into disrepute and potentially, utter failure.
And HUGE severance packages.
I am a quality control inspector for aerospace parts. Bad parts are supposed to be cut in half so they can't be installed on an aircraft...my question is how come they didn't destroy them? 🤔
How did the bad parts leave the supplier's manufacturing facility?
The supplier is Boeing itself; these were parts sent away from Boeing's plant in Everett for scrap processing at another plant. So recycling what can be (sorting out metals to be melted back down and stuff), and destroying what can't. I've heard of things getting sent to the MRB and getting accepted by the customer even if they aren't perfect, but I've never heard of something literally sent off to be scrapped as being brought back. Scrapping would usually happen after being failed in MRB, or if it was inspected in-process, it was so clearly bad off the line that the inspectors, or one of the project managers, just sent it straight to scrap. So... Somebody was going outside the process to take those parts back because of some failed quota.
This sounds to me like something went wrong in one of the production lines, like one of their machines started slipping into nonconformity or breaking parts, or the machine itself broke down. Then, the fix to the machine was probably taking too long for their deadline and they were going to miss a quota, and somebody was likely already on the hook for that happening more than once. So... They went for any parts that they could find. This was some higher-up trying to save their own skin at the cost of everyone else.
A Q/C inspector let this happen for how long …?
No, not the inspectors. This was likely engineers/quality managers being "told what to do" (read: threatened) by people above them. If this was MRB'd, then used, it means the customer knowingly accepted nonconforming parts.
@@Knight-Bishop I heard the Charlestown assembly line is .. too small to be a nation yet too large to be an insane asylum
The first thing Boeing whistleblowers should tell the press is "I am NOT depressed, am in great health and have NO intentions on EVER taking my own life."
The first one literally said if I die it’s not suicide then cause of death was suicide
This guys has some stones. Mad respect. I hope he survives it.
Moment of silence for both whistleblowers who was murdered😢.
The bus or train is looking like a safer alternative 😂
The US is way behind in high speed passenger rail it's essential to give substandard airlines and Boeing a wake up.
This happens, the manufacturer forces their workers to use non-conforming parts. I’m surprised more issues haven’t surfaced with GE engines for this reason.
Who made the parts?
If it's Everett, it's Boeing themselves.
@@Knight-Bishop ok. Boeing engineers decide what scrap is and isn't and they can change their minds if they want to.
@@Wolfcamp555 They can't do it on a whim and usually they can't just pull something being sent to scrap back to go back into production. If this was done through their MRB, there would be a paper trail of people who signed off on this, and it wouldn't have even gotten all the way to the scrap facility before being taken back. Unless for some reason they have an MRB cage at the scrap site, which would be the weirdest and least efficient logistical choice. In the text they highlighted, Quality seems to be in conflict with management, likely sales directly. And they seem to be talking about axles; idk if this is referring to landing gear, or some internal mechanism, but that is not something an engineer would just be fickle with, especially on a plane. This is what happens when a machine breaks before meeting a quota, the fix to the machine is taking longer than the deadline for the order, and somebody's already taken the heat for missing deadlines before, so they go over/around quality auditing and tell somebody to use these bad parts they scrounged up just to hit their numbers. In other words, greed.
@@Wolfcamp555This is NOT how this works in aerospace AT ALL!
@@Knight-Bishop salesman don't have authority to do anything. Engineers do.
“Boeing says it encourages employees to speak up” yeah so they know who to get rid of next
If it's Boeing, I ain't going!!
These Boeing stories are each more egregious than the last. There needs to be a deluge of news coverage until Boeing's stock is worth pennies or just jail all of the executives... those are the only ways that the company will change.
US Capitalism won't tolerate a fix along those lines. A few aircraft falling out of the sky and killing hundreds of people or random door plugs blowing off is just the price of doing business.
There was a time when me or other QA folks would in some way make sure bad parts did not come back into the system to be accidentally used. More than red paint.
هذا موظف جيد وليس مثل الموضفين الذين قاموا بسرقة المصنع والشركه بالاتفاق مع المع🎉قب بالشركة وقولهم انهم اشتروا كل شئ وهذا غير صحيح ولذلك لعدم وجود شيك مصدق او اي تحويل بنكي يثبت ادعاء الموظفين السارقين وكان وقت سرقة الشركة والمصنع في نفس وقت مشكلة البيت وخروجنا منه والحمدلله رجع البيت فقط
Muilenberg, and the engineers, pilots, and Southwest executives who colluded to introduce the MAX without full MCAS system back-up, to defraud the certification process, should ALL be in jail, guilty on 346 counts of manslaughter. This sweetheart deal is a shameful whitewash. In my 35 year aviation career I never thought that before.
I hope this guy is in witness protection.
This guy safety is at risk big-time those big corporations are mass killers of people like him
"Boeing encourage employees to speak up" then fires them or worse. Stonecipher started this death spiral at Boeing.
But as the GOP says "wE dOn'T nEeD mOrE rEgUlaTiOnS"
So 50,000 parts, that means there will be roughly around the same amount but in crashes.
The machining facilities are located in Auburn. Bad parts don't get shipped out, so are these parts initially damaged by assembly rejected by assembly inspector then shipped back to Auburn? Auburn is a collection and disposal point of used/worn-out tooling and equipment also.
Must be why i saw security detail cops parked outside the boeing in downtown miami yesterday
Poor guy. Pray for his widow.
Scrap is not waste.
Is a Felon a Bad Person ‼️
Great 👍🏻 job, Boeing!
Way to inspire confidence during one ☝🏽 of busiest travel times of the year.
Systematic of what is wrong with the USA today.
bloody hell
@3:50 Why characterize fasteners on an airliner as being superficial? That doesn't make much sense to me.
😮This Is Just SICKENING 😢
Be a real shame if the Boeing inspector fell out of a 10 story window.
That guy better stay away from windows, if you get my drift...
He knew there were junk parts, but when did he call the FAA?
As the story goes, these parts were originally sourced from china, but as we are now decoupling, Boeing ordered these parts from India instead, strangely, Indian suppliers used original Chinese documents(which is now completely irrelevant) as certificates of quality, and Boeing accepted parts without realizing these documents weren’t from Indian suppliers
They need to put cameras on the supervisors and have these dismissed employees review the footage daily. Full transparency, 24/7. No whistleblowing necessary, unerasable stored cloud footage inspected by all parties with an interest.
Good coverage.
This report failed to ask the key and obvious questions. Who shipped the parts back? Why were they shipped back? Is there evidence that they wound up being installed on new planes? If you can't ask good questions you have no business being in journalism.
Bad or scrap parts going back to Boeing is criminal taking it back to Boeing parts store who received it ? Somebody called receiving inspector who are trained to look for certifications and conditions of parts but not necessarily trained or understand what they need to know
That crate is from 2015 interesting the papers look nice for 9 years
Boeing used to quietly hide "White Tail" 787s' over in remote area of Paine Field and scrap them. Most of these were early production examples that were overweight or had other production flaws. Quite a few sat for years (The Teenagers), and although some were eventually fixed and sold, the rest were cannibalized. I'm not personally aware of any defective parts going back on the Everett production line, but airplanes left out in the elements for years tend to have issues. Perhaps this is one of the areas they are investigating. IDK.
I am an Englishman living in London. After another scandal coming from the USA regarding putting money above safety. I am 57 and have decided that I will never fly in a plane ever again. I would never trust anything come from the US regarding safety so my only option is not to fly again. My wife and I have bought a large camper and will in future go on holiday in Europe and the UK. Why do these American companies continue to have these practices. This is what happens when you abandon regulations.
That’s impossible! That’s against the law! What kind of management would do something like that??
Flight 232 that crashed in Sioux City Iowa about 1990 had a fan disc fail that had been rejected by inspectors before finding its way into the engine that failed on that airplane.
JUST
to CLARIFY. That was manufactured by Mc Donnell Douglas not By Boing … Also. What’s your source regarding engine having defective fan blades on it ?? Possible but Not likely .Commen knowledge fan blades sometimes develop hairline cracks that go undetected by maintenance crews working for Various AIRLINES.
@@ca-dz9vb Thanks for the correction on the airplane manufacturer. The fan disk that failed had the same serial number as one that was supposed to have been disposed of at the factory. I lived close to Sioux City and followed the news quite closely. If I remember correctly, the failed fan disc was found in a farmers cornfield when he was harvesting in the fall. His farm is located near Holstein, Iowa which is about 30 miles east of Sioux City Iowa.
The entire top management team should be fired and charged with crimes.
So what is deemed a scrap part?
Doesn’t meet quality standards.. so basically not safe
A part that doesn't meet technical specifications is tagged non conform. It can either be fixed or not. If it can't be fixed, it has to be scrapped
@@citizenychoux My thought is that in some cases a part was declared scrap and then upon further inspection was declared safe with a superficial or cosmetic defect. I'd assume a paper trail though, which either didn't exist or the internal complaint handling system couldn't be bothered to find it and demonstrate to the whistleblower that the parts were indeed suitable for use.
We've lost two aircraft-along with their passengers and crews already over Boing's problems. When will the next one fall?
The problem with these kinds of news articles is that it never really gets to the root problem. give us names. Give us names of the supervisors and the management that let this happen. Give us names.
The top Boeing executives names are ALL listed in business publications.
Bro really just said pom pom 74 times
What is a 'bad part'? Airbus buys many of the same parts.
When I worked for Lockheed, intentionally using defective parts would have been considered sabotage and that person would be immediately fired and turned over to federal authorities for prosecution. It sounds like a multitude of Boeing employees should be doing serious time in federal prisons. I know of someone that happened to when the poor workmanship they attempted to cover up was discovered and traced back to them.
"We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions" (Eisenhower, 1961).
In 2021, the U.S. Department of Defense awarded Boeing a contract up to $23.8 billion (Reuters, 2021).
put the entire Board of Directors behind the bars. they selected the CEO
Why am I not surprised.
If boeing does this, then I am sure most companies are not too far from it. How about military industrial complex? Does anyone know how unsafe Apache actually are? Apache has numerous fatal accidents around the world and they are still in service.
All these reports....the people working on the airplanes knew? They knew they were putting shitty parts on an airplane?
PLEASE don't let him end up dead. 😟
This should be priority #1!!!
I like it when company says they encourages people to speak and when they do speak up ends up getting punished, just laughable
The secret service should be protecting these whistle blowers instead
I hope he's packing heat and has guard dogs 24/7!
The company will start caring when their customers stop buying tickets. But ya'll keep buying them, feed the demon.
Fixing a faulty QA system takes time. In the meantime Boeing should be put under increased supervision by the FAA.
This guy is already in danger.
If it is true, Boeing need to do something about it.
If it is Boeing, you should not be going
Boeing don't insult us with your bs about encouraging employees to speak up. Stop lying about your malfeasance...
And some people will still defend boeing to the point of attacking you for thinking they are not safe. 🤷🤣
Arthur Miller' play- All My Sons
If you think of fasteners as superficial parts, which other parts of an airplane would you not care came unfastened?
He’s right. Not enough people in the American workforce are willing to hold accountable employees who slack or aren’t up to the task. It’s as if unless it’s an attendance issue bosses keep their mouth shut.
“Quality Control” at Boeing? LOLOLOL. You lie.
Protect this man! They should probably investigate Boeing Capsule stuck in space with stranded NASA astronauts.
Boeing should be put under judicial review. By the federal courts. 🙏
What about the North Charleston (SC) plant?
What about it?
Just shut down the whole company we can have less planes in the sky 👌
I'm never flying in a Beoing again.
Nice job boeing u truly broke our trust..........
Puts peoples lives at risk. Not just the passangers but the crew too.. so what youre telling us is u dont give a shit if a. Few hundred passangers die. But we cant have our employees dying