Stone Age Scandinavia: First People In the North (10,000-5000 BC)
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I like it! Just go easy on the volume swells between lines of dialog
This is amazing. 1200 views in a few minutes.
Neanderthals are not the forebears of Cro Magnon Humans...
how about continuing north ? Take a look at this... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_carvings_at_Alta
1:03 humans were in Europe as far back as 40,000 years en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_first_human_settlements#Upper_Paleolithic
how does 1 man with a £500 PC produce better content than a multi-Billion pound state sponsered broadcasting company?
Because the latter has to adhere to all current political nonsense. Leaves little room for creativity and honest story telling.
The latter has do dumb everything down as far as the current levels of multicultural enrichment demand. At least they haven't fully switched over to broadcasting in Pidgin... yet.
@@collinhennessy1521 Give it a couple of decades and they will be broadcasting in Arabic
Because the latter is not designed to educated but instead to indoctrinate
Gat 2mad
Same old same old from the sub par intelligence dross that resides on CZcams comment sections.
I see you've also visited the phenomenal Danish Nationalmuseet in Copenhagen. Their thorough curation of Danish history from the paleolithic to the vikings made for one of the most enriching experiences I've ever had.
I'm heading to Copenhagen soon, I'll make sure to visit! Thanks!
little stealing bastard danes, not that i hate them anymore, but still sucks that most of our artifacts have been "traded" to them.
Sincerely Norway
I'm absolutely fascinated by stone age and bronze age cultures. Would very, very much like to see more videos like this one about other stone age peoples. Great work, as always!
Thanks very much friend. Much more on the way on Neolithic and Bronze Age!
Same!
Why don't you go read a book instead of waiting for someone to do the hard work and then process it into the most easily digestible format for you?
Me too .........and ancient cave art 👍💜
@@HistoryTime poll l
It always hits me right in the feels when I hear about ancient people burying their dogs with actual ceremony...especially right now, since I will have to bury a pet tomorrow (a gecko, though; not a dog). The hardest part of moving from my old house was saying good-bye to the animals we had buried in the backyard over the years. It's amazing how broad the human capacity for love and sense of family can be, and how far back in time that capacity developed.
Dog is man’s best friend. They have been by our side since the dawn of time, before any religious scriptures, and they will remain at our side til the end.
sorry for your loss(es)
@@hoperules8874 thank you
our beautiful White ancestors. God bless them all.
'Why did the dogs help humans?'
Because they're good boyos
Bloggs shouldn't that be "Why did the dogs help the Welsh?"
@Ian McNally Imagine believing that "white" actually means anything. Being white is a social class within western society. It wasn't that long ago that Irish people were not considered white despite stereotypically being some of the whitest people you'll ever see. Whiteness is a social construct used by those in power to keep the populace divided and fighting amongst each other instead of those at the top who steal their excess labor, send their sons into brutal wars of aggression, and write the laws that keep them down.
@@overbeb While Ian McNally is an absurd fool, you are a person of potential who is dangerously misguided. You merely seek external causes for your own weaknesses. The only thing "keeping you down" is your self-indulgent addiction to comfort and taking the easy path. Do you "need" to live in a toxic box with year-round temperature control? Do you"need" to eat toxic food that comes from a box instead of healthy food that comes from the earth? Do you "need" to lounge on a sofa or a gamer chair consuming fatuous entertainment rather than really living under the sun and strengthening your body? Do you "need" to consume cheap, low-quality, disposable versions of useful items rather than investing the time to make your own or barter what you can make well with others who can make some useful things better than you can? Do you "need" to have a job you hate that robs you of your humanity in order to save this time and consume more junk? Do you "need" to develop a class consciousness that allows you to band with others to gain greater access to this junk?
If you free yourself from your desire to remain weak, you will be surprised how little any of those supposed "needs" actually matter.
Bloggs, Dogs didn't plan to help humans. Dogs are trash eaters. People had trash and left overs around their camps and dogs wanted to get closer to this easy food and it was no skin off the people to let them scavenge . The people went about their business ignoring these relatively harmless creatures but then humans noticed that when they were hunting the circling and following dogs provided a tactical advantage in the hunt. Thus the partnership.
@@overbeb whiteness is real. It is the group of people who ultimately made the modern world
If I didn't know this was YT it might as well have been a professional TV documentary. Great work, thoroughly enjoyed it! The music really adds to the whole documentary.
@Ian McNally Lol paranoid facist
@@realpolitics527 his statement lends no evidence as to his emotional state nor his political alignment.
Only thing is, they were not white.The first were indogermanics coming from the Pamir mountains.Thats why they are called Arians.Which means ppl.from the mountains.Same reason why Persians ,today ,called the same.Because Iran means 'Land of the Arians.'
More indian style ppl.They became white due to the environment after time.
@@iceageprepper2823 Right ,we didnt envolve.We felt from the sky .
And the earth is flat.
@@iceageprepper2823 Ever heard about genetics?Get some education!
Greetings from Finland
Tuovi Sjölund everyone forgets Finland... hello
You should visit Finland! Nice and qviet and a lots of forests and lakes
Tuovi Sjölund Would love to go . Interesting place and people many don't talk much about.
Shalom
Mitzvos Golem welcome to Finland. Shalom Spring summer or early fall is best time to visit
Greetings from the English Danelaw!
I absolutely love this type of videos. Too many people think I’m strange because of the number of documentaries I watch.
Really ? I know plenty of curious people and they aren't judge by others by any mean. Maybe there's a bit of paranoia on your part going on here
If one does not follow sportsball other will think them strange
Ash. You just keep watching documentaries and learning everything you can. It's important. Learning about our earth, our home, is most important. Greetings from a great Gramma, 80, in Montana.
I study prehistoric archaeology in Denmark and I need to point out that there are several crucial errors in this video.
The Southern Scandinavian mesolithic is my specialty, and as such, it is a topic very near and dear to my heart. I need to point out a few errors and assumptions, because spreading misinformation is just. Well, it's not very scientific.
Errors and misconceptions, off the top of my head:
- Cro Magnon is not a human species, but an outdated catch-all term for human species that are not Homo Sapiens.
- Neanderthals very much did have art, tools, and culture, and considering how recent this video is, and how much recent research has been published about Neanderthal culture, it's frankly disappointing to see this misconception still being circulated.
- You keep showing footage of red deer when you say elk, but when northern European archaeology papers mention elk they are talking about moose! Because in Scandinavian languages we call it "Elg"! We are talking about Alces Alces, not Cervus Elaphus! And definitely not Cervus Canadensis/Wapiti/Elk.
- We have one single remain of a mammoth from Danish prehistory, and I'm not sure if it's even from the late glacial, or maybe the middle glacial period. I don't have the book nearby.
- Pretty sure there were people going as far north as the Bering land bridge, hundreds, if not thousands of years before humans came to Southern Scandinavia. There are plenty of sites in the Americas from way before the N.European late glacial.
- "Human clans were very small at this time". Not necessarily, it is a common belief among archaeologists that hunter-gatherers lived in very small groups, but there is evidence, such as Star Carr, that contradicts this conception. Not gonna hold it against you, it's a very specific academic debate and the literature on it can be hard to access.
- "... To alter the landscapes around them... For these people... Had no knowledge of agriculture" Debatable. Hunter-gatherer groups are not like wild animals, they have an effect on the environment, and not just by happenstance, but by selectively choosing which animals to hunt, which plant species to forage for and cultivate. Yes, H-G people do this, and the delineation between farming and hunting/foraging is difficult to define!
- "The wild grasses and grains that would eventually become crops had not yet evolved." Wheat was cultivated in west Asia over 10.000 years ago... Wikipedia info, here........
- THAT'S NOT WHERE MAGLEMOSE IS. THE MAGLEMOSE BOG IS TODAY CALLED MULLERUP. I'm assuming you went on google maps and searched for 'Maglemose' and picked the first place that came up? Please, don't do that... Especially when the english Wikipedia article on Maglemose culture mentions exactly where the site is located. You don't even have to find academic literature on this one, Wikipedia got ya covered.
- "The bone age" I've never heard anyone call it that, I'm curious, where did you get that???
- There are more errors, but these are, to me, the most important.
General take aways: From the footage of the exhibitions in the Danish National Museum I have to assume you have a lot of your information from there. Boy, I really wish you hadn't, because this "information" is highly dramatised, occassionally outdated and incorrect, and most of all, written to sell tickets.
If you want to know more about the mesolithic, check out literature on Star Carr, a site in northern England very similar to Mullerup/Maglemose and other sites from that culture, because there is a huge amount of literature on it.
I'm thrilled that you wanted to delve deep into a period of prehistory that is not well known and deeply misunderstood, especially concerning a region of the world where you don't speak the language (I assume).
But when this period is so easy to misunderstand, and when I have a degree of expertise on it, I feel obliged to weigh in.
I am not pointing these errors out to shame you, but to make more correct information accessible to you, and your viewers. This topic is a small but vibrant academic field, to the point where I have personally interacted with several of the scientists who have made big contributions to it (In later years. Never met Sarauw or T. Mathiassen. RIP).
The hunter-gatherer stone age is extremely misunderstood, and so often written off as primitive or backwards, but it's the basis for all human culture and science. We come from them. We should honour them.
I hope this comment enlightens and encourages you and others to do more research into a very interesting period of time, and that I haven't killed the spirit. Feel free to reach out to me if you want to know more.
North American archaeologist here agrees. Thanks for your input. This isn’t my region of expertise but I picked up on many of the same issues. It’s awesome to see someone take the time to make such a beautiful, high quality video with great overarching themes, but the details matter. Getting details wrong can lead to stereotypes and misinformation.
F. P. Your long comment is very interesting and appreciated. Personally, I live in an area where many of the animals discussed and shown in the video still exist..... In a state of the US that is larger, geographically, than Germany, but has barely one million people. There are no large cities. Animals such as the grizzly bear, elk, wolves
eagles, rocky mountain goat, antelope, beaver, and many more still roam wild. My ancestry came from Denmark, Scotland, Britain, France....the areas discussed in the video. I have a strong interest in the prehistory of that area. And of the western US, and Montana, my home state. When I moved here, 51 years ago, Montana had only 650,000 people, and still has massive wild areas and animals. There are seven imdiginous reservations. Yellowstone park is near where I live. I am passionate about learning of the pre- history of these areas. And I do appreciate what you are learning at university, and the information you shared in your comment. Perhaps we could share information?
You are wrong though, Cromagnon were early European Homo sapiens, at first scientists just weren't sure of it that's why they gave them a different name.
While I do appreciate you're well thought response, you too have provided erroneous information. Referring to Cro-Magnon as a catch-all term used to describe pre-modern human peoples is certainly false, and considering your field of study I am quite surprised to see you not be up to date on such issues. There's not even a need to do any searching, Wikipedia has this information for you, as well as many other sources. Cro-Magnon, for the record, is another term for the Early European modern humans. These are the first H. Sapiens to enter Europe, and the ones who interbred with H. Neanderthalis. You state that the term excludes Homo Sapiens, yet that is exactly what the term encapsulates.
I knew nothing about this, so the ticket selling version got my like. Your expert expansion on it is pretty "ticket selling" too. Thank you.
Your documentaries are fantastic. Much better than the rubbish on tv
Very true indeed.
We wuz danes n sheeeit
@@ethank.6602 that's what I was waiting on...
@@Nobody-11B lol thats just how it is these days
True true -
1:40 minute of the movie you suggest that Neanderthals didn't use tools or weapons which is absolutely wrong.
It's so so wrong.. They even made cave paintings, giving credence to a theory of a high intelligence. Graham Hancock studies this more and the whole narrative of Neanderthals being some sort of dumb stocky humanoid savages is incorrect, and not really supported by any archaeological evidence at all, it's just guessed lol
And also fire. Yeah no, Neanderthals also had fire.
I dont think he was meaning they didnt use tools but was referring to the more advanced tools used by homo sapiens and their abilities to use them in different ways, the better throwing shoulder as an example
“Distinguished by _their use of_ weapons and tools” is a bit ambiguous, does it mean the way they were used, the prevalence of their use, or the fact they were/were not used at all?
Neanderthals were dumb as rocks
I love the prehistoric content. Doggerland feels like Atlantis.
@Holden Mcgroine Yeah, there's a bias for written history. Unfortunately, oral history and transmission is relatively more plastic. Oh, to have the whole oral history and traditional stories of the Norse, and not just those relating to Odin, Thor, and Loki. Religious zeal is guilty of more than just blowing up Buddha statues in Afghanistan.
@Holden Mcgroine That western African "city" (topographical feature) can be explained by geological events and differences in erosion. Doggerland is too early by at least 2,000 years (I've always assumed more). I'm not trying to be combative; I find it all fascinating. I know I'm not providing a lot of references here, I'm sorry... but, have you heard about the story surrounding this where the Basques on the border of France and Spain have genetic relatives in Western Africa, and both have a origin story of arriving by boat from an island far off in the Atlantic after it was destroyed? Both with an incredibly long history of long distance sea faring, similar genetic markers (like Rh+ blood and green eyes, or something), and origin stories?
@Holden Mcgroine I bet something like this is more likely, and timely - but keep in mind, all cultures from Greece to China have a flood myth. Just a discussion, I appreciate your knowledge and interest. czcams.com/video/VwZeSoYugZk/video.html
@@MrBradWilliams Ask Graham Hancock
I visited Veijle Denmark, when I was stationed (US Army) in Berlin. Beautiful land, and great people. I found a neolithic spear point while I was walking on a jetty, coolest thing I've ever found! Great trip!
If Neanderthals left their genes in us (which they did) - then the phrase "they disappeared entirely" cannot be accurate.
Very true, and good point!👌👍
If you can not see them then they, by definition, do not appear.
“Stone Age” Scandinavia.
I feel so lost, our history, identity, my culture & heritage relentlessly attacked, and my homeland swamped. .
Connecting to ancestral roots reduces the alienation, thank you for filling in a bit more.
You must now turn yourself in to the local police for incorrect thinking.
Jason Grice Jason Grice Well your roots are in europe. Unless you belong to the indigenous people of North America, your ancestors were immigrants from Europe to an already populated continent.
Yay for Dogerland! I was so excited the first time I learned about this sunken region and the end of the little ice age. Thankyou for covering it. Excellent content as always.
I was also interested to see your history of the Jutland Peninsula. The earliest record I have found was a Roman map from about 400 A.D. that named the Dani on the south and the Jutes on the north. I think I remember the Scani and Geats on the map as well (in southern Sweden), but I may be remembering that part from a different map. I have since tried to figure out where the Dani came from, and generally suspect the blonde haired blue eyed Alans the Ancient Greeks described, but that is definitely no more than a hypothesis. Reading back that far does make me believe more in lost peoples, like dwarves, elves, and the blue skinned frost giants. How much we have lost to time and can only now guess at.
Greek blonde and blue eyes ?????? Oh man 😂😂😂
the post says the Greeks described the blonde haired blue eyed Alans-not that the Greeks were blonde and blue eyed although that actually depends since you will find quite light haired Greek in Northern Greece @@besnikillyrian8520
the ancient Greeks did write about Scani/Scania -today it's called Skåne/Skaane in southern Sweden that's were the name Scandinavia (Skandinavia) comes from
Another great video! I'm loving the new format, these are great. I also like the prehistory and Viking Age documentaries, but you do a great job on everything!
Absolutely fantastic, I look forward to seeing more!
Thanks for watching ! SO much more on the way!
I don't usually comment on CZcams videos. However, I wanted to thank you for a job beyond well done. I was intrigued. So much so, I paused it & Googled lol
Thank you so much for all of your beautifully made documentaries! This one is especially appreciated because I am Dane. I love learning about history from all around the world, but I do think there is an unfulfilled potential here regarding Scandinavia. I would really love to see some more productions on our history, since I find hardly any documentaries on this subject, apart from the Vikings of course. I expect there is a great deal more to know. Again: thank you. You do fabulous work.
Master Kelly, you are without a doubt a true joy to learn from. The eye openers that you pass on will at times knock me right off my pins. Even continuing a well thought program of education as a senior member (66) of life, our brain rejoices at the newly discovered. Surely by now you are aware of the delight these channel(s) of yours bring to many. I heartily commend you for the intrepidness of that first tentative step you took in order to reach out with this new format of teaching. It must have been terrifying to put oneself out there for a non traditional method. I applaud your courage, resourcefulness, and your brilliance at your profession. I feel I speak for many when I say thank you and I sincerely look forward to each new mini lecture at the Professor Kelly Institute of Higher Learning. Bravo.
Thanks so much Koni. Really appreciate your kind words. Well it was either this online stuff or getting a 'real job' as a teacher in a school or university. This option has been very difficult but extremely rewarding! So much more on the way!
Dog's truly are mankind's best friend 🙏♥️
@@levitatingoctahedron922 who shat in your breakfast?
@@omgpotatos1 nobody but dogs shit all over the sidewalks and parks I use on a daily basis. revolting. should be exterminated from cities.
@@levitatingoctahedron922 "exterminated" who are you Hitler?
@@levitatingoctahedron922 If there's a lot of dog shit around you, you shouldn't blame dogs, it's their owners' fault. Piss is a different matter, since they use it to communicate (and yeah, maybe us humans should do something about it too).
They're not only used to sniff drugs: They help find victims after disasters and other law enforcement stuff. They're also used in a more traditional way in developing countries, since they still help with herding, hunting and even security. Plus, they're used to help people with disabilities, ptsd or even depression.
And, just for the record, they're not a technology, they're animals, just like you and me.
@@levitatingoctahedron922 Strawman much there weeb?
Please stop the blaring music spikes, it really screws up with headphones when trying to find a volume level. Also please know that I absolutely love your videos and hard work. Keep the history flowing :)
Agreed. Why increase volume with 200% with this unnesisary bullshit. Thank you otherwise for great content.
Good comment, but give the complement first then the critique. This is better for the feelings :)
Agreed with the music. I'm not using headphones, but on my home cinema. Is he using audio ducking maybe? And the music was set too high? Sounds odd to spike it up for barely 2 seconds at a time otherwise.
Great Vid! Thanks for putting it together. I am insatiably curious about human migration and origins, and any thing that adds to my knowlege of these subjects is an absolute treasure to me! More please!
Thank you so much, I thoroughly enjoyed this! Very informative and I learnt some valid things that I did not know. Most appreciated.
I just recently found your channel and am truly enjoying your videos. Early history (like this) is fascinating, and I am particularly interested in Doggerland and would love to see more on that. I appreciated your noting the pressures the loss of the great land masses would have had. My ancestry is Frisian, and my instinct is is that they were a tribe of Doggerland, so it is a bit personal (even if only in my imagination). I'm looking forward to watching the rest of your catalogue and the new ones still to come. Thanks!
Besides the interesting subject, what a pleasent voice! Instead of the usual hysteric screeming. Thank you!
Thank you for your amazing work. This video means more to me than I have words for.
Really enjoyed your video . Thank your posting it and yes I would like to see more of your work . Well Done !
Thanks for watching Dave!
Amazing footage, fabulous editing. Thank you 😊!!
This video was GREAT! Keep them coming!
Agreeing with many, I like your excellent presentation of this fascinating material. Clear, uncontorvesial and scholarly, thanks.
3:04 those are North American elk (wapiti) not reindeer.
Well, it was that or a fossilized skeleton.
So what? Hope someone doesn't nitpick at what you love to do.
Please keep producing these videos. It is worth your time and our effort in watching them. The pacing of history, informational videos is so important...job well done.
I am convinced 100% this video directly influenced the development and world building, the game came out last year and most likely spent about 2 years in production from concept to release, the community is gonna love this one.
Fascinating! Thank you History Time!
Thanks for watching Martin!
I would absolutely love to see more! Probably sounds silly but I’d love an hour or so vid showing us just what they did in a day. Like following one of the tribe with a camera. One for a woman,one for a man, one for a kid, one for a senior. I’d be fascinated with that!
Jennifer McDonald being able to watch something as interesting as your suggestions probably would leave us feeling like a rented mule but, extremely thankful no chance experiencing their version of a bad day!!
If it's prehistoric, everything is speculation
This was amazing!! Please continue the good work.
Thanks friend!
Love your channel! Keep up the good work!
Great job and I like the video format and narrative.
Thanks guys!
Just as an interesting sidenote: according to a recent Swedish documentary broadcast on national television - the first Scandinavians were dark-skinned, dark-haired and brown-eyed, and that in time their physical features evolved over thousands of years to become what they are today.
@Upgrayedd wtf do you smoke? If its not addictive I want as well
@@IronWarrior86 no that's not true we know Scandinavians have a high percentage of neanderthal DNA that goes back 2-300000 years meaning they looked different but they were still light skinned and lived in europe.
Upgrayedd
Hopefully you get replaced dweeb.
well no they didnt evolve into what they are today, 6000 years ago people migrated from the middle east with agriculture and following that people on horses would continue to raid Europe on and off for the next few thousand years bringing in most of the current dna, very little evolution actually happened IN Europe, except for green eyes and blonde hair, which isnt all the special considering blonde hair has evolved separately elsewhere
@@magnusorn7313 explain the pre ice age man they found in Russia then
I loved this new style! Great video as always brother
Great episode man, I loved it. I had been craving a History Time episode.
Thanks man ! Much more on the way
- More please. - with 4 (Gparents) from Denmark emigrating to US, I have a family farmhouse ( @ Frilandsmuseet in Lyngby) many interested 'cousins'. Found the original location of farmhouse on Lolland (Taagense) and looking forward to results of metal detecting this year, hopefully.
I enjoyed this interesting and informative video. More, please.
Yes. Ur format and ur voice are definitely going to get me to subscribe. I am a lover of history. Thank you
This is the most amazing channel and videos. THANK U!!!
In my top 3 favorite videos you've done! Thank you. Wonderful video! Never knew of the K man in Denmark. I've researched alot about early man. Glad I learned something new!
Thanks Rob really appreciate it. ! Much more on the way
A really good documentary, well done! Too bad it ended. Will you continue in part 2?
Good presentations ! Keep them coming.
Great documentary.. Great voice and editing.. Thx for posting..
thank you, this was really cool!
more ancient history please!
Thankyou. Much more ancient history on the way
nico nico need to kill myself you have an anime pfp
Man is resilient can adapt to almost any place on earth.
Absolutely. A great tv series a few years back called Human Planet is great on this topic.
Thank you very much. Informative and skilfully put together... A great vid! Looking forward to more...
Thank you for producing & sharing this history.
Thankyou, I enjoyed this video very much. Yes, please do more.
Thanks very much! So much more on the way!
That was great, would love to see more like this one.
Much more on the way! Thanks
I was glued to the video! Thank you😊
I watched a pretty bundle of your episodes now. Apart from being very interesting, they are so beautifully made!
Talking about the "first people in the North", stopping in Denmark at 8,000 AD, and some 2,000 km south of where people have lived for at least 10,700 years ... Here's the archeological evidence of the settlement at Aareavaara, northernmost Sweden, 10,700 years ago:
www.researchgate.net/publication/230886096_Living_at_the_margin_of_the_retreating_Fennoscandian_Ice_Sheet_The_early_Mesolithic_sites_at_Aareavaara_northernmost_Sweden A number of 10-11 millenia old remnants have been found in the far north of Sweden (and also in northern Norway).
This was so enlightening! Thank you for teaching me something new. I'd love to know what happens next? What happens after grain production? You say we stop our nomadic ways, but what does that look like? What about the animals? How are they affected? Keep up the great work!
I love when he introduces a concept and then the beat drops. So badass...
Great video. Thank you for this!
"Why did dogs help humans?"
Because:
good dog protecc
good dog attacc
and most importantly, good dog snacc
So sick of this motherfucking phrase
Great Video, amating. And very informative👍👍Greetings from the North of Germaay✌😎
Thanks very much for watching friend
Thank you so much for making these documentaries.
Thanks for taking the time to teach me about all of this!
3:14 10000BC people were already living in northern Norway and Lappi in Finland. For example Komsa culture. Another is Kunda 9000BC
BlackSmith highly impropable, since ice still covered all of scandinavia and finland in 10000 bc, sometime after that the first openings started to melt in the Finnmark region of Lapland and around Lake Ladoga, but komsa culture is said to only come past the nowaday North sea into the Finnmark about 10000 years ago (just an estimate, findings that solidify their settlements are even later) and kunda culture is said to have come to Finland a little bit later than that but theres proof of inhabitation and culture in the North even older than both of those, West Karelia Finland is home to the Antrea fishing net, the oldest net in the world which is made up of complicated knots (with mathematical fractions in them) and is over 10500 years old, also multiple village remains have been found in the seabeds of lakes in that region, some goin back over 10000 years, so the first people in the north were in finland, (very possibly finno ugric people from the east since the Ancylus lake at the time was connected all the way up to Lake Ladoga, cutting off the karelian isthmus completely, so to get to Finland you had to come from the east over the lake)
Well the glacier melted by the northern coasts too and people used boats/log canoes by then so, no, it is not impossible. They also followed the animals (reindeers, elks, mammuths, etc.) over the tundras. Finds prove that sami and other groups were there earlier or at the same time and that they followed the melting glacier south.
temater i agree but not in 10000 bc, realistic estimations of their arrival are way later than that (in the bc 8000s), everything i said still stands, the oldest findings in all of the nordic countries are in southwest finland and this is carbon dated, all those estimates mean nothing, the oldest carbon dated komsa-related finding in the north only comes back to around 8000 bc, compare that to the oldest finding of all, the Antrea fishing net that goes back to 8540 bc, you see the difference, and sami people are part of the same people group as the ancient finno-ugric finnish people so no, they didnt come before us, but at the same time as finns, its just that there are no findings related to sami culture going back that far, so we can prove there was culture in south finland before the northern/sami lands
Finnish tribes are native north people
@@johnparker7998 Wallenberg is a jew. Video is more propaganda for "we are all mixed, and immigration has always existed." Hence, borders are evil!
Yes, please. ^^
Think you can visit Norway and Sweden too?
Have a look at the petroglyphs in Alta and elsewhere up here in the north as well as various buildings etc.
There's a lot of interesting things to see here from that time.
Amazing video, very informative!!! Thank you so much
Enjoy your stuff. It's so good. Simple explanations of history.
Narrator: Talks about trackless wilderness. Video: Shows tracks.
Video suggestions: I would love to see an overview/timeline of prehistoric humane diaspora from our evolutionary origin points outward. Also I'd love a video documenting how and when the Americas were first populated.
I have this theory that we originated from Asian and not Africa. And the first known people to live in Africa were the khoisan people whos genes were a large mixtures of Asian and European dna and are the only people of african descent who also carry neanderthal dna
Love all the History Time content!!!
Great doc. My favorite history source. More please!
Interesting that humans' expansion always seems to indicate they were trying to get away from each other. Too damn many of us.
They were following the reindeer. But where pre-agricultural humans dispersed along coastlines, it is because the more people live in a location, the further out hunters and gatherers have to go in order to forage enough food to feed the villagers. This puts a hard cap on group-size. When the group gets too big, it has to split into two groups with land between them, thus, effectively doubling the a foragable land within a foragable distance of the total population. This pattern holds true everywhere, by mathematical necessity(As a circle increases in size, it's volume/circumference ration increases.)
To put it another way, as the population of a village increases, the area of land to be foraged around the village does not increase in proportion. Thus, as the number of inhabitants of a village increases, it gets harder and harder to feed them all via hunting/gathering, and eventually they can not feed everybody. The solution is to split. Roughly half(or some portion) of the people move on down the coast, thus creating two foraging perimeters for the same population.
This allows both group's populations to grow again, and the process repeats, like cells dividing.
There _could_ be animosity between people, but there _needn't_ be any for this phenomenon to necessitate continual outward expansion.
The math is simple to show if we change out 'circle' for 'square.' A 1 square foot volume area, has a circumference of 4 square feet. That's 1:4 ratio.
A 4 square foot volume area has a circumference of 8 feet. That's only a 2:4 ratio.
A 9 square foot volume area has a circumference of 12 feet. That's only a 3:4 ratio.
A 16 square foot volume has a 16 food circumference. That's 4:4.
A 25 square foot volume has a 20 foot circumference. That's 5:4. [Now there more square feet in volume than there are feet in circumference.] Let's skip ahead a bit.
A 100 square foot volume has a 40 food circumference. That's 10:4 ratio. You get the idea.
Translating that into villages, the volume represents the land occupied by the villagers. The circumference, in reality, is a band of circumference. It's thicker than a line; it's extends to maybe 5 miles out: however far people are willing to walk to hunt and gather. This makes the formula slightly more complicated and arbitrary, but with the same result.
As the population(the circle) gets bigger, the number of foragable acres per person, in the band surrounding the village gets smaller.
Note that this dynamic changes with agriculture/animal husbandry, as these techniques cause the food production per acre of land to be high enough and sustainable enough, that the people can live and collect food in the same place. They do need more land per person to live on, but this ratio is infinitely scalable, maintaining the same proportion of land/person.
If you tried the same thing with hunting/gathering, i.e. spreading the people out across the land far enough for them to each have sufficient forageable land, they would lose contact with each other. And, well, there you go; dispersal again, inevitably, by mathematics.
Aside from the lengthy explanation of the previous comment, I would like to say, there is absolutely no indication of what you're claiming is indicated. FYI.
@@michaelhull1813 Zero indication... it's math. That's like saying there's zero indication that 2+2=4.
Either you understood it, or you disagree with it. You can't do both.
The ratio of the circumference of a circle to it's area decreases as the circle increases in size. Therefore, hunter-gatherers necessarily have to go farther and farther afield to find food, as their group increases in size. It's mathematically inescapable. There's no way around it.
As for corroborative real world observation data, for the mathematically or logically challenged, um.... there are no large hunter-gatherer groups.
Ergo, ALL of the data on hunter-gatherer groups size indicates that. Exactly all of it.
@@brindlebriar
There is absolutely no indication I was talking to you... In case your reading comprehension is as bad as your penchant for long winded self aggrandizement.
BTW... Learn Brevity, fucktard.
Right, and when they couldn't get away from eachother, that is when "civilization" in the classic sense began.
3:03 "The archaeological record suggests that it was probably reindeer"
*shows North American wapiti instead*
Yup. That's when I stopped.
Nit picking much?
Criticizing nitpicking by nitpicking. Total number of nobel laureates who have posted a CZcams comment...zero.
I’m sorry to say it but while his “documentary” has good intent, it’s also full of faults and errors. I guess it still holds up if you have little or no previous knowledge. Good effort though.
He's unlikely to find photographs of ancient Reindeer, so he used what was closest available.
An excellent presentation . Thank you .
Very interesting documentary on this subject. Would very much like to see more.
Can you start a series on the crusades? You understand the complexity of war
Already have!
czcams.com/play/PL4kqG-CL4ToCgA375HaoHRKb_IOhX6q9o.html
Some years back DR (Danish BBC) made an excellent series on the Normans. This also covers the crusades. I would be surprised if it has not been translated into English since it was really good.
@@HistoryTime can you do documentary on what french are? Are they Gaul?are they germanic?
Excellent style. Great choice of location and time period.
Thanks friend! Much more on the way!
Thank you that was so interesting, from beginning to end.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and understanding of the ancestors of the Northmen ... Much better content than anything I'd seen on tv... Keep up the good work... Sláinte
They arenn't the ancestors of the northmen, well, not only of them.
Every european today, or everyone with a drop of european blood is a descendant of them.
So they aren't the ancestors of the northmen only, but of all europeans, or people of european descent.
Love the video, and love Copenhagen and the rest of Denmark
Denmark is the retarded cousin of Sweden, so I don't see any need of loving the place when you have the gem of the north just across the straits.
It's a beautiful and welcoming country. I had a fantastic time.
I like this format mate! Keep it up! Also, do what pleases you. If you have fun, you surely will have our respect too!
Fantastic work!
Thankyou!
I love these videos. Your voice is so soothing
I love this! It's so interesting. Can you do a video concerning the Norsemen? My surname at birth is Norris, which, according what little research I've done, refers to the people of the North of England. I'd really like to learn where they migrated from prior to that. I know, my lack of education on this subject shows, lol.
Thanx for this! I always knew my British n Scandinavian n Dutch roots linked up somehow! ♡
@Abc Abc 😂 A bit harsh but I agree. The English are ethnically different from us
Abc Abc Eastern Britain has numerous Scandinavian place name clues.
Great video my dude! You took a subject of which I know very little about and made it informative while keeping me engaged. I love this video and this style you're trying out!
One tiny thing I noticed is at around 16:42 you say "five thousand five thousand" but the date given is "5500 BC". It sounds like you misspoke but now that I type this I realize it could just as well be a regional way of saying the date. I'm American (Californian specifically) so maybe we just say these dates a bit differently. If so then please ignore this comment and thank you for making these videos! Your work is excellent and I really enjoy this new style.
This was fascinating! Thank you and greetings from Latvia.
a bit of a missleading title considering that you only cover doggerland and denmark and not scandinavia as a whole
CrookedSun go fuck yourself if you can do better then make a better one if youve got nothing to say then shut the fuck up
However you look at it, these were the first "Scandinavians".
@@ddr1071 In need of a bit of anger are we. Calm down.
@@jacobnordin7183 No they weren't. Archeological evidence of the settlement at Aareavaara, northernmost Sweden, 10,700 years ago (only one of several 10-11 millenia old settlements in the far north of Sweden and Norway):
www.researchgate.net/publication/230886096_Living_at_the_margin_of_the_retreating_Fennoscandian_Ice_Sheet_The_early_Mesolithic_sites_at_Aareavaara_northernmost_Sweden
@@jacobnordin7183 Not really. Scandinavia is the peninsula, Jutland and the Danish isles aren't really in scandinavia.
Thanks for this excellent video. This Brit. loves Copenhagen and all of Denmark and we have friends there. More videos ? Yes please !
Thanks for watching David. Much more on the way
Love your videos. MOAR, please!! :)
I like the style of video and the cross discipline approach/content of the channel that this adds too! Please more like this.
Thanks Patrick. Much more on the way!
Really nice video. Can you recommend a good book that covers the same material?
Anything by Barry Cunliffe is great. Jean Marco the Peopling of Europe is a great read.
i find it ironic that you say 'our great success as a species' exactly when the ryanair logo is on screen.
Extremely enlightening - thank you!
Loved it! So informative Thank You 🙏