*Society of the Snow* (2023) was HORRIFIC!
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- Here is my reaction to the 2023 real life drama film Society of the Snow
First time watching Society of the Snow (2023) Reaction
On October 13, 1972, Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571, chartered to take a rugby team to Chile, crashes into a glacier in the heart of the Andes.
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The reason Numa is the narrator is not only for the "twist" or the shock effect -- he serves as the representative and voice of those who died in this tragedy. Oftentimes when this story is told, it's always in the point of view of the survivors. JA Bayona wanted to pay homage to the dead, the unsung heroes of the story, by giving them a voice. I think it's a brilliant creative decision.
And was the last who died
And by making Numa the narrator, we grow close to him. When he dies, we feel just a fraction of the grief that the survivors/non-survivors felt every time they lost someone.
and those who died, helped a lot the survivors to survive....
just like Numa
The team from the story was from my country!! Uruguay. This made my day. Its a very significant moment in history for us, Thank youuu
The avalanche happened at night really, when they were sleeping. So that makes it a lot more terrifying.
Yes and remained those 2 days in complete darkness
The black pee is a result of severe dehydration. They were not able to thaw enough snow to stop themselves from dehydrating. When they tried to eat snow to quench their thirst it ‘burnt’ their throats. Some of the survivors have said that the thirst was worst than the hunger. Also at the altitude they were at it is very dry which dehydrated them even more.
This is a insane true story of the greatest surviving story the world has ever witness.
43:55 that's the *original* footage from the helicopter on 1972.
that's why the color is different.
The director of this movie wanted to film this story for so many years, Tom Holland even said that J.A Bayona read this book to him while they were filming The Impossible. And Tom Holland interviewed the director and the actor that played Numa. Some of the survivors are in this film too.
I don't think it's realistic for them to have started walking day 1. They didn't have the resolve, desperation yet, and also it was still "winter" there. they had to wait the extra two months for it to thaw a bit so there were no more storms and visibility is better. But I think it's mainly the resolve/desperation. Imagine you have no directions, no compass, just the sun for you to figure out direction. You don't know how far you've walked, how far you have to walk, whether you're walking in the right direction. They had to walk for 10 days straight, with a weeks worth of food (in the movie they had 10 days worth). Imagine yourself going hiking, even 6 hours of straight hiking is exhausting. Now imagine you're wading through 3 feet of snow, high incline, no proper equipment, everything. If you still had a thought in your mind that somebody was coming, why would you risk it? If you didn't feel like staying at the plane meant 100% death with no chance of rescue, why would you venture in to the vast blankness of the mountains?
They had several expeditions since the beginning of the accident. Those expeditions had a different purpose though, finding help, the tail, the radio, etc. Not all of the expeditions were shown in the movie. It wasn’t Winter, it was Spring time, hence the light clothing they were wearing, however, the amount of snow that fall in the mountains that year broke records.
En sudamerica cuando ocurrio el accidente es primavera, pero el año q ocurrio el accidente, hizo mucho frio
R.I.P to those lost in this tragic event. Praises to the survivors
Some "fun" facts! The man who plays the reporter stating the survivor's names at 43:10 is actually a survivor from the crash! And the real man who listed the names was his father in real life! There's two other survivors who act in the movie, one being the man who holds the door open for them in the airport at the beginning, and the doctor who checks each of them out at the end; and that's ! Those two men are the pair that hiked west and saved them all :D! The man at the airport is Nando and the doctor is of course Roberto :). It's so amazing that they were able to help out on this film- i think it might be one of the most beautiful films to ever come out. Also, Nando at the beginning with his eyes; they initially left him out in the snow believing he was dead, but the cold of the snow actually helped his head heal and it's the reason he lived !
Eight or nine survivors made a cameo, along with family members from those who died.
also 43:55 it's the original footage of the rescue in 1972.
some pictures are also originals
It was spring going into summer so every day that they waited more snow melted and the weather improved so they had a better chance to make it through the mountains. It is also only as the weather improves that people in Chile went up into the mountains to graze animals so they would have had to walk further to find help.
The part of the fuselage they used for shelter was burnt at the time the bodies were buried but there is still apparently a lot of bits of plane scattered up there. The glazier has melted a lot so wreckage that was in the glacier is released too.
I would not be able to watch this movie one more time. Emotionally it wrecked me. All that suffering… This director is great at capturing pain: when I saw he is responsible for the Impossible I knew I am in for a difficult 3 hours. I was crying almost the whole time especially at the avalanche scene that was so hard to witness. Anyway amazing film and I am a little disappointed that it did not win an Oscar. As you mentioned as well also the actors were phenomenal along with the make up, the props, the shots, the location and the story telling. Truly profound. So much thought and humanity went into it. For example Numa got the fatal injury by someone stepping on his leg. But the film makers did not want anyone portrayed as at fault so they changed the circumstances. Numa was the hero of the story (and Nando of course)that is why he is the narrator. I recommend you to look into it more, there is also a book by Nando himself I believe.
Thanks for sharing!
I’ve watched over 20 times. It lifts my spirit, it is a lesson of life, will power, friendship, teamwork, and love to your family.
I've been with this story since 1976 when I read the book "Alive" by Piers Paul Read. Both Nando and Roberto are the goats. One without the other would never have made it. They were two together. BTW I am in the process of completing the reading of Dr. Roberto Canessa's book and will be starting one of the other survivors afterwards. I've some background information on some of the aftermath and such of the real event, and some on the filming. It's rather lengthy so I'll just copy and paste what I wrote, or rather, collected from many posts I've made to other reactions.
The film was partially filmed up at the Valley of Tears where the fuselage actually came to rest. JA Bayona went up there and filmed things for the backdrop of Mt. Seler (named by Nando Parrado in honour of his father), plus the surround for the Andes. The sound mixer also recorded things like the wind and how the snow sounds up there to be used in this film. So it is by and large authentic to the experiences these boys went through.
As for Numa Turcatti. Numa was the one righteous man we see once in a lifetime. He was a law student who was about to take the bar to become a lawyer. His arguments against eating the dead was based on both his spiritual beliefs, and his studies in law.
The four days buried was because in tandem with the avalanche, they were also experiencing gale force winds and a four day storm. That was why the shelter of the fuselage was better until the storm was over.
Arturo died of pneumonia. His lungs were full of fluid. Usually antibiotics could help, but up there Roberto and Gustavo had nothing. As for them being clean shavn, not all men grow bushy beards. Some may have tons of head hair, but very little if no facial hair.
The actor playing Numa is Enzo Vogrinzic, actually lost about 50 pounds during the filming. He went from 150 to 103lbs. All the actors were on a closely monitored diet to fully depict the trials the actual men went through up there. As one's body begins to diminish, they become somewhat old as they no longer have the suppleness of the muscle they had. The protein in the bodies gave them nothing but lean energy, but not carbohydrates we all need to sustain us.
As for Numa dying. He was the voice of the dead, the ones who didn't return. The ones who survived are still close to this day. There are 14 left as Javier Methol (the man who lost his wife) died in 2014, and Jose Luis "Coche" Inciarte (the one who needed help walking) died in 2023. They still gather on rescue day, or as they call it "rebirth day." They have all gone back up to the crash site many times since 1972. One of them, Eduardo Strauch, is part of an adventure team that takes sivilians up to the crash site. All that remains up there is wreckage as the remander of the fuselage was burned and the bodies buried in a communal grave.
Roberto Canessa (med student) and Nando Parrado (man who lost his sister and mother) have been called exceptional in what they did. Mountaineers and alpinists from Ed Viesters (summited Everest five times) and others have called what they did as amazing considering they had no equipment and no training. Also not to forget their physical condition.
As for the long-term effects of what happened. Many of them do suffer from a form of PTSD, but with the other survivors they have help and support.
The one thing I have to say about these boys. If you remember from the beginning of the film, Numa's voice over stated many of these boys had known each other when they were young. Many of their fathers knew each other as many played rugby for Stella Maris College as teens/young men. These men formed lasting bonds that have survived to this day due in large part to their faith, and their love....always love for each other. And at the end of this story as it still is 52 years later, it is all about the love they had for each other and the love they had for the ones who didn't return. This story is about the power of love. Could we all wish to have the same spirit these men had and have today. I've been with this story since reading "Alive" back in 1976. I have followed these men since then. The one thing I have learned from them is not to squander away your life as you might not know what as Roberto Canessa has said, "When your plane will crash."
Some info about where they all are today. Roberto Canessa (med student and one of the ones who made the walk) is now a world reknown pediatric cardio thorasic surgeon. He operates on fetuses inside their mother's wombs in order for them to be born healthy and life their lives as they should. He has won many awards for it including many in the United States.
Nando Parrado (one who lost his sister and mother) is an vintner, and former race car drivier and who is now a motivational speaker.
Many of them indluding Gustavo Zerbino (other med student) and Adolfo "Fito" Strauch have become long term associates for Stella Maris College in the rugby program. The same one they came from. Javier Methol (man who lost his wife) was a tobacco grower and successful buisness man. Moncho Sabella lives in Argentina and is a successful agriculturalist. A lot of the others have gone into other things including public speaking as has Carlitos Paez (guy whose father was looking for him.)
Some trivia: Nando Parrado can be seen in the airport opening the door for his "family" and his portrayer, Agustin Pardella. Roberto Canessa can be seen aiding his film portrayer, Matias Recalt when they get to the hospital after the rescue. Coche Inciarte can be seen directly behind Numa Turcatti actor, Enzo Vogrinzic, in the pub scene with Gaston and Pancho. Ramon Sabella can be seen in the airport as an extra. Carlitos Paez (guy who made the sleeping bag) played his own father, Carlos Paez Vilaro who didn't rest until his son was back safe. Juaquin Turcatti (Numa's actual brother) is seen in the night outside the home Numa grew up in. Those were Numa's actual books he used to study from. Gustavo Zerbino is seen at the beginning as a rugby coach.
In summation, this film was made to remember those who died. This is the first time the names of the dead have been used as the relatives of the dead refused to allow their loved ones names to be used in other productions: "Survive" 1976, and "Alive" 1993. This film is a dedication from the living to the dead. It is their voice Numa speaks for.
The accident was because of human error, as they were flying with low visibility they estimated their position based on the compass, time of flight and speed... but while crossing the pass the copilot made a mistake, he didnt took in to account the front wind, so by his calculations they had already cleared the pass and the pilot turned norht, but they were still inside the pass on the Argentinian side of the mountains, so basically the pilot turned the plain straight to the mountains. Thats why the Pilot in the movie says "we passed curico", they really thought that. Another thing, of the 16 survivors, 14 are still alive today.
This is currently my favourite movie. Thank you so much for reacting to it and for doing it in spanish
Oh, they definitely wouldn't have survived if they'd tried to head west shortly after the crash - even discounting the fact that they didn't have enough food to make that trek, they wouldn't have survived the weather and the cold. The three who got stuck outside on the mountain that one night the first time they went to look for the tail only barely made it back to the fuselage alive.
Incredible film about an extraordinary group of people, this.
Además de todo..la música que acompaña toda la película y el homenaje a todos los que no volvieron en los títulos de crédito, dando un digno final a esta epopeya de supervivencia y amistad.
Nice reaction as always! Greetings from Uruguay, here this story is well known
38:15 the sourvivors sad that one of the few thins that wasn't quite right, was that climbing only that mountain took them 3 days
There are two other movies about this event. One of them, “Alive” (1993), is an American production and stars Ethan Hawke as Nando. But Society Of The Snow is far superior.
Una historia de sobrevivencia única en toda la historia de la humanidad. Escuchar a estos sobrevivientes, sus entrevistas, es un canto a la vida!!
this was such an unexpectedly insane watch. my family put this on a couple of months ago and i wasn’t really aware of what it was about, i realised i’d heard of the true story but it was just awful watching everything they had to endure
14:29 those two are the couple who left their kids back at the airport, Liliana and Javier Methol. He survided, she didnt.
Como van a comprar guantes? Si no iban a ir a la nieve!🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Im from Uruguay, thank you for your reaction!
Amazing reaction, thank you for sharing it and watch it in spanish.
A few facts:
Nando made quite a recovery because even when his head swelled with the impact, his head was facing the cold metal of the plane also he was left kind of outside thinking he was dead. This served as a very cold ice pack to heal the swelling on his head and make him better. The idea Nando had to want to eat the bodies came out of anger that the pilots' negligence got them to be stuck in the mountain helpless. Let's not forget he lost his mum, sister and 2 best friends. Nando's anger it's what pushed him to want to get out of there no matter what.
They were peeing black because of severe dehydration.
Fito was the one who thought of making water, glasses to protect their eyes from the reflexion of the sun in the snow and also chose the bodies that would be eaten along with his cousins Daniel and Eduardo. Fito was called the inventor.
Carlitos the young person who crashed into the suitcases with his car in the airport was a spoiled child who came from a wealthy family. He was very spoiled, he even had a nanny, after this trip his perspective of life absolutely changed. In the plane, he was in charge of making sure there were not drafts in the plain or reduce the possibility of drafts using the suitcases and plane seats, he was very good at it. He also was the one who made the sleeping bag that Nando and Roberto used to sleep in during their walk to Chile.
They had so many cigarettes because in Chile cigarettes were scarce and Javier Methol, the man who lost his wife in the avalanche, worked in a Tabaco company so thought it was a good business to take a lot of cigarettes and sell them in Chile.
Numa did not get injured like that in the real events, someone walked on his leg by accident because of the lack of space in the plane and because he was not eating his body did not have much strength to recover from the bruise. He was the last one who died and his death pushed Nando and Roberto to say fuck it lets do this, let's save ourselves because no one else is going to.
The actual survivors loved this version more than the 1993 version, because it doesn't idolise the survivors as the heroes, instead recognises and considers those who died and their memory.
Reporters keep digging in a very nasty way how they survived, what did they eat, etc. The survivors were very secretive and ashamed about saying they ate human beings and were scared to be judged, being Catholics, by their families and friends also going to jail. They had a press conference were they answered to reporters questions ONCE instead that addressing the situation 100000 times to every reporter who asked. They asked the reporters and people for respect of their choices considering the very harsh circumstances they had to face. Pancho Delgado (Numa's best friend in the movie was they one who spoke in this conference)
The actual survivors made a Kameo in the movie Nando, Roberto, Coche Inciarte, Numa's real nephew and Carlitos were is different scenes. The house shown as Numa's house in the movie was actually his real house back in 1972.
The reason why Zerbino would not leave without the suitcase it's because he hoped that tokens from the death people, like personal belongings such as jewelry, rosaries, ID's, letters written before dying were taking back to give to their families. That actually happened the real survivor refused to leave without the suitcase.
In the movie isn't shown but the rescue was in 2 stages. They had to rescue one lot of people that day and the next lot the day after. Some survivors had to stay another night waiting for the other helicopters to arrive. Those left behind the first day were left with food and a team of rescuers. A survivor said the rescuers were scared of them after seeing all the human remaining all over the place also the smell and dirt was unbearable.
All the people who died in the crash are in the mountain buried with a cross and parts of the plane to remember them. The survivors go and visit the grave quite often. The only person from the victims who is not there anymore is Rafael Echavarren. During the time in the mountain he used to say I'm Rafael Echavarren and I will go back home. His dad got told this and he did all in his power even nearly got in trouble and in prison for this, but he got the right to dig his son up and take his body back to Uruguay.
There is a man who was part of the search team that were looking for the plane in the the search missions. His name is Claudio Lucero and he had made quite strong arguments in the media about how he believes the 27 people left alive in the plane after the crash planned and plotted maliciously all the events that happened to them to gain fame. He states they could have left the mountain days before the day they got rescued, but chose to stay longer and go through hunger and lost to become famous and earn money.
Survivors appeared in this film, as parents. The radio announcer was played by a survivor.
Ironically, the only survivor who played a parent is the one doing the radio announcement by reading the list (Carlos Páez Rodríguez playing his father, Carlos Páez Vilaró), the rest are just cameos with no real connection to the group (Zerbino = rugby coach, Coche = man at the bar, Daniel = man at church, Nando, Moncho and Tintín = men at the airport, Canessa = doctor in San Fernando).
On the other hand, the radio announcer talking with Carlos Paéz Vilaró is Tomás Friedmann, the same reporter that did it in 1972.
And the announcer saying the identity of Nando and Canessa is Pablo Vierci, the author of the Society of the Snow book.
1. They can't have started walking on day 1 because they wouldn't have been able to survive one night or even one day in the middle of winter. They took the journey at the end of winter when the snow wasn't waist deep and when they had the proper gear (clothes, footwear, waterproof sleeping bag). The guys suffered from frostbite, snow blindness, etc, just from a few hours in the open. Lol it wasn't just hunger that they had to fight but also the elements
2. Roberto sniffed the meat and threw up because he had eaten rotten meat. End of winter means the meat wasn't preserved properly and therefore had been "out of the fridge" for a while
3. You wouldn't have been able to see the plane from the height of the helicopters flying by. They were covered in snow and the area was too big for the X made of luggage to have made a view from that high up
La película es española, pero los actores son todos uruguayos y argentinos .
Masterpiece ❤❤❤
Finally 😭😭
Ok so we’re cying again here we go
i just realized numa's birthday is the after mine, mines october 29th. the real survivors said this movie was very accurate, some of the real survivors were in the movie too. i cried, and when numa died too....ugh. also the one naming the people over the radio playing his dad is the actual survivor. listen crashing, and then being in pain like that, losing people, and being in shock, i wouldn't have been able to start walking day 1 either. we don'y know what is was like, so we shouldn't judge or say they should of done this, or done that when we don't know. we can't say anything about them eating the bodies, cause if it was one of us, and we had to survive, you gotta do things you wouldn't even think of doing in your life. i will say i'd rather be where they were in yellowjacket where it was warm, then freeze to death.
17:55 they said in the books that the first one was the pilot
You mentioned the TV series Lost, but didn't notice that Michael fucking Giacchino composed the music for this movie too...? ^^;
LADbible TV interviewed one of the survivors ( here on CZcams) He played a small part it seems - in the documentary/ film as one of the character’s dad.
You are talking about Carlitos Páez. He played his own father, who at the time, never stopped searching for his son. After all rescue searched stopped, he continued looking for his son, along with Canessa’s. It was Carlos Páez Vilaró who read the names of the survivors, and when he read Carlitos Páez name, he did it the same way is shown in the movie: “Carlos Miguel Páez, mi hijo (my son)”. The guy at the radio station was the real guy that received and broadcasted the names of the survivors.
@@minyrar7107 Yes, you’re are right. I’ve watched the film long ago that I’ve missed him and have wanted to rewatch the story/documentary/film over again but I’ve been too preoccupied with a lot lately. Thank you for revising or letting me know he was actually in it.
All hail Roberto y Fernando! They have the cojones to walk out of the Andes!
Thank you ❤
Awesome reaction of my favorite episode of Society Of The Snow!!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊
episode? Movie
Dude. Why didn't they take gloves? They were going on a day trip to play a match. NOBODY packed for snow. Some of those heroes had never even *seen* snow. I'm confident that if they had gloves, they would have worn them. They did their best with what they had. And you did not see Christian Bale.
It sounds goofy but this story has changed my life. I bought the book onaudible and blew through it. Now i'm making my way through Miracle in the Andes by Fernando Parrado. I have the utmost respect for all of them. Talk about your spiritual constitution and intestinal fortitude!! I am inspired!
@@user-nt8lq4rp3z Doesn't sound goofy to me. I read this book ("Alive") in 1975 when I was 11 and their story has been with me every day since. I've watched every movie, interview, documentary, trailer, lecture I can get my eyes on, but nothing prepared me for this film. I watch reactions to it on a loop because I feel the same way every time I see it. Their story effectively neuters any right I have to b*tch about anything. "Miracle in the Andes" brings a whole new dimension to the story, like this film, it tells everyone's story. It's more than just what happened to them. It's absolutely life-changing.
I read the book and what they didn't show in this movie survivors made socks from human skin
They didn't work though. Fernando Parrado talks about it in Miracle in the Andes. They all thought it was a good effort though. There were lots of good ideas that didn't quite pan out. I have mad respect for all of these people.
They actually.
Went to the same spot where the plane crashed to film the movie.
I've seen many people say this but I don't know why. They went to los Andes to film some background shots so it would be real, but the portions with snow and the plane were filmed between a set with fake snow, and a skii station in Sierra Nevada, Spain because it was too dangerous and unpredictable to film in Los Andes. There's a documentary explaining all this.
The only actors that filmed in the real Valley of Tears were Pardella (Nando), Recalt (Roberto) and Della (Tintín), for the final expedition
@@ailem2707 And Enzo, though maybe that was more for promotional photos?
@@tjohns25no. That scene where you see Enzo walking alone looking for food, was filmed in Los Andes.
Rhabdomyolysis: This is a condition in which muscle cells break down and release a protein called myoglobin into the bloodstream. Myoglobin can stain urine dark or black.
Their pee was black due to dehydration, not rhabdo. The water made by drinking snow has no salt, and thus, cannot be properly retained by the body if you don’t get salts from another source (food)
Rhabdomyolisis is when the muscle is breaking down faster than what the body can handle, and thus its intracellular compronents are in too high concentrations in the bloodstream. In this case (or at least in the case of the ones that weren’t that injured from being crushed) the body was breaking down in a controlled way and rhadbo shouldn’t be a problem
The event in 1972 was horrific. The movie is phenomenal 🙂
They weren"t supposed to survive, the official search ended that day but some of the parents kept conducting private searches.
11:15 his das sold all his shit and had a girlfriend by the time Nando returned
The wreckage is still there actually
The wreckage was burned in early 1973, as it’s international protocol for plane crashesWhat remains there is a memorial and some smaller pieces of the plane.
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There is also a Hollywood version made in the 90s called ALIVE with Ethan Hawke, if you want to react and compare both versions.
Ésta película maravillosamente filmada y con excelentes actores no ganó el Oscar por que no eran de habla inglesa... me parece muy injusto...
43:55 it's the original footage of the rescue in 1972.
that's why the color changes
Nope. It's recreation of it
@@SABINE0666 Nope, it's the original film of the actual rescue.
watch the documentarys.
they also put some original photos as well... (you can tell the ppl are different than the actors)