Andrew Wilson OBLITERATES Stubborn Girl's Arguments On Age GAP Couples!
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"Everything I don't like is either creepy or misogyny."
"or insecure".
It's creepy for a 40-year-old to go out of his way to seek a 20 year old for a relationship..... I don't care what anyone has to say about that...
@@ResinateByChanel That's garbage. All men find women between the ages of 18-25 the most attractive. This is just another example of the toxic feminist mindset that demonises men for their sexual preferences. This is the real creepiness.
Hahaha yeh.. such brainless moronic guests on the panel
@@ResinateByChanel So just like that ignorant female your statement comes from the way you “feel” 😅 you people are insane lol
I don't know why women want tall ,rich and handsome men. That's so insecure. Very predatory
THANK YOU! 👏
😂😂
Well said!
And creepy, you left that part out. 🤣🤣😂😂
And creepy
She means.
Im not a virgin so its bad to only want virgins.
Bingo !!!!!!
Her best years are behind her and is not as desirable to men anymore.
Every standard men have that exclude some women is "creepy" Accountability is women's kryptonite.
And that right there is the real issue. Accountability!! 🎯💯
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple
"I'm gonna go have a cigarette." Andrew needs to be a permanent guest on this show.
Minimum once weekly.
I concur😂
Like a boss 😎🚬
And there should be a $100 penalty if he’s interrupted lol
He literally needed a cig cuz he was done Fing her 😂
40 years old rich man "I consent"
18 years old pretty woman "I consent too"
This woman out of nowhere "I do not consent!!!!!!!"
This woman? Most women think the same way.
@@hendrixjoe555 What they say & their actions do not correlate.
Ohhh, they're SO CLOSE to getting it.
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Government: "I do not consent!"
I'm 46, in shape, still have my hair and women say Im good looking. I get more smiles/stares/attention from random women (especially the younger ones) on the street than I did in my 20s or 30s. They have no idea of my financial status.
Women are the gate keepers of sex so when a man of my age hooks up with a 20 yo, 95% of the time, it's because she pursued me, not the other way around. Younger women have always been attracted to older (attractive) men because it takes men a long time to create their value - life experience, wisdom, financial stability etc.
When I was in high school, all the girls in my class used to fawn over a 50 yo teacher we had. That tells you all you need to know.
RKO!
When Andrew said ''ima have a cigarette '' I almost pi$$ed myself 🤣🤣
I'm 37. My current girlfriend is 22. She came to me. Nobody seduced her. I was not predatory. The relationship developed naturally. We are both very happy. This happens all the time. This "debate" is about female jealousy and denial. It's about control. Full stop.
Preach
The only thing that I find strange is when you come across a man who says that he does not date any woman past the age of ... And then he names some number like 21 or 24. I had a neighbor like that who was living with a woman and she was pregnant by him. He basically said that because she was turning 21 soon he needed to find a new woman. He asked me how old I was and I was 22 so he said I was too old. Lol. I wouldn't want him anyway. I don't know how old he was but I guessed he was in his forties. From that experience I always stayed clear of any man who was seeking a certain number or younger. I am currently in an age gap relationship and my boyfriend is not predatorial but some of these men out here who are specifically seeking younger women are predatorial.
@@The-Oneness11 Your neighbor is pretty weird but I disagree that older men specifically seeking younger women are predatory, it's really just biology, the same way a woman would choose an older man because he's more mature, manly, financially stable, and experienced in life.
You can have an opinion but do not state it like a fact when you don't have an actual moral argument.
@@Spectator9672 I just find a weird when they have a specific age because basically they're saying that once the woman turns that age they're going to move on to the next woman. Like the girl who was pregnant by my neighbor probably really didn't believe it when he told her. Sadly now, she ended up a single mother because she was young and naive. Usually in these types of cases when the older man impregnates the younger women he makes her abort it because he was only with that woman for sexual reasons not to start a family.
@@The-Oneness11 Ohhhhh, see I didn't understand from your first comment that he straight up left her because she turned a specific age and left her a single mother, yeah he's a massive creep and 99% a PDF file.
See what I mean by specific age range is they date younger women but they of course don't leave them if they reach a particular age, I thought that was really obvious so I didn't even mention it in my initial comment, sorry for misunderstanding
I never hear men say "I'm training my wife ". But I have heard from multiple women "I'm training my husband to be perfect for me ".
Men don't say it but the ones who understand, do it.
@@emdo.unlimited555if age gap is wrong don’t date men over 1 year older period oh and also looking for men to give u his resources is predatory 😊
@@Itsyomama007 ummm, this comment thread didn't mention anything about an age gap so I don't understand what you're getting at. Also, as a man, I've never known any man to give me his resources. Once again, what are you talking about?
Well that's funny because countless old men in these type of comments say how they want a submissive young virgin that they can train to be a perfect wife, massive red flag!
I can't tell you how many times I've heard that line from woman on TV..........
She hates her competition.
Why are women like this 😅
Spot on !!!
FACT
Not just that, she knows her lifestyle can not be sustained.
Yes she gets passed over for younger more attractive women and she just can't deal with it. Instead of saying it's unfair or she doesn't like it let's call it predatory which makes it sound like it's the guy's fault
I'm 40 with zero kids. She is wrong
You want an 18 year old?
Not to date or marry but having fun with would be amazing
I'm also over 40 and zero kids
@@jackfordmac you don't?
@@jackfordmacever man would.
What blows me away is a woman Just can't help but think a man is being a predator first before anything else
If an 18-year-old boy can be drafted and die in battle then an 18-year-old girl is old enough to decide who she has $ex with.
Voting is based on representation and intellectual knowledge. A vote cannot cause physical or circumstantial harm to another individual. An age gap in a relationship with the youngest still in high school is exploitative due to a greater chance of the younger one being inexperienced, impressionable, naive, and unsure of what they want to do with their life.
You can even remove age from the equation. If a person chooses someone of whom they know to be unsure of what they want from their life to be their wife and have children with, they are being immoral, as they are not considering that the other person might feel trapped later on in life with their decision.
@Joyness333 "a vote cannot cause physical or circumstantial harm to an individual"
> tell that to the undesirables in weimar Germany. The German people voted for what happened don'tcha know. Cause it's not like it was hidden, it was being loudly proclaimed at rallies what was wanted to be done.
"That person could feel trapped later on in life with their decision."
There is a good potentiality of this being true for any person, at almost any age.
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You made a nice attempt at making a moral argument, but it's still not quite hitting the mark. Keep trying though, I'm sure you'll get there eventually. :)
@@moose6869 It is hitting the mark.
The younger the person, the higher the likelihood for them to feel trapped in a decision they made earlier in life.
As to Germany when I say a vote can't harm an individual I am talking about direct harm to another person - as is the case of marrying a person when you know they're not ready for it.
Points you missed: Direct harm vs indirect harm and increased probability due to circumstance.
So, the nakedly ridiculous and overly obvious smug tone was unearned.
@@Joyness333 Using that logic Joyce then these 'inexperienced' women shouldn't be allowed to drive until they're 25 or vote or drink and definitely not have $ex. My mother was married with 2 kids by the time she was 21 (she started work aged 13) but obviously girls nowadays are snowflakes.
@@Joyness333 So an 18-year-old girl is competent enough to decide who'll run the country but not who she wants to have a meal with?
Basically what it really boils down to, is they want men to have absolutely zero choice while women have all the choices. And they want men to think they are lucky in this arrangement.
Yooooooo
Basically feminism and Hollywood have convinced some women that women used to be slaves and also that women deserve to enslave men.
Psychological description, true
Pretty accurate
A fun challenge, as long as it’s genuine.
My wife is 12 yrs younger than me. We met when she was 24 and I was 36 and she is happy as heck
Is your name Angel just curious
24 and 36 is completely fine, shes seen enough and old enough to know what she is getting herself into….
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple
You will end up in divorce.
that's how it should be, congrats brother, I wish you a fruitful marriage
Her whole argument is " just because."
She's getting a real-time lesson in how to frame an argument and dismissing it. Convincing someone to believe what you believe is always possible, if you successfully convince them, but you can't just tell someone to agree because you feel they should. That's weak sauce, Sister.
Yeah she needs supporting argument. Even if you can't win someone to your side you can at least inform them of your reasoning process for your opinion. In this case she failed to do so entirely.
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple
I laughed way too hard at the Schrödinger’s feminist line
I was totally anticipating way more Schodingers Feminist comments, lol, and but then again... this channel... lol!
The decay of a isolated Feminists argument, hit with a super cool Lazer focused argument may or may not occupy the same space as a well framed argument. Lol!
@@wagfinpis I was expecting more too lol. At least some good metaphors along the lines of "the feminist is both a victim and a girl boss, only when reacting to something does she determine which she is."
“Under 5 body count and a lot of guys would discount her for a relationship..” lady that’s a diamond in the rough in this dating market lol
Agree 👍
Yea she’s clueless
I love when they make the argument that you've never experienced in your entire life outside of a character in one movie.
@@eatshityoutube3271 I don't even think she's clueless. She's just grasping at straws trying to come up with argument that actually makes sense which she doesn't have when she finally admitted that it was just her opinion. Which is fine, btw. She can have that opinion, but her problem is she tried to force her opinion, her view, onto everyone else and pass it off as truth. She didn't understand that all the way through the entire clip.
@@A2theJ9she has an opinion. her opinion is beyond wrong. she argued in bad faith from the start. women love having high counts then getting upset at men for not wanting them. it’s not like men don’t tell women they prefer low-no count girls. it’s a choice to be a virgin or not as a woman. no excuses at all
304s jealous that older wealthier men want younger proper women
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple
I'm honestly sick of this age gap shaming
i am honestly sick of age gap relationships
@@mateopribyl9218it's none of your fucking business GFY
@@mateopribyl9218 how do they impact your life?
@@lander77477 things dont need to impact my life for me to oppose them
It is actual jealousy.
She hates that because she can't compete with 18yo.
You gotta love it when someone is defeated by the simplest question that can possibly be asked.
"Why?"
He looks like a creep
@@TheDeven1000 Yes, you do.
@@TheDeven1000 I didn't know you were legally blind, my condolences.
@@TheDeven1000How is he a creep?
i mean... Why is usually quite complicated to answer fully/accurately.. So.. calling it simple is... dumb.. and simpleEST is even more dumb.... basically the simplest question is a yes or no question...
They want millionaires, but show contempt for those millionaires based on their age. Make it make sense!
Young women want older men because of money since they're not independent themselves.
“Make it make sense” noted psychologist Sigmund Freud “ what do women want?” No one knows, not them, not you, not anyone.
@@nocturnpersonit’s just rooted in biology. always been this way
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple
Quite frankly, a man's preference is none of her damn business, no matter what she feels about it. She doesn't like it, then don't look!!
Yeah, she can either make an argument to raise the age of consent or just STFU. Funny thing is the odds are very good she was dating older men when she was younger LMAO
Preference is preference. Actions, OTOH, can affect people. She should worry about what people actually do and not what they like.
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple
"most 40yo men have a 18yo child" wtf?
Andrew annihilated her
Completely!
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple
My wife is 17 years younger than me. This broad has no point
You are a KING
My wife is 15 years younger. Best decision I made in dealing with women.
Its probably because the women you're age are too smart for your BS.
Based in her speech, you are a predator🤣🤣
My wife is 16yrs younger then me, when I turned 30 last year I decided to stop dealing with the girls my age and all their baggage…
😂
"What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?!"
Somebody stop him!! She's already dead! 😂😭💀
Voting should be raised back to 21 years of age unless the under 21 is serving in the military.
voting should be restricted to IQ intelligence. too many idiots in this country
Andrew slices through nonsense like a hot knife through butter.
i think shes trying to point out whats normal whats not. her point is a 40 year old man married to just turned 18 year old is creepy which is, and thats funny cuz just few hours earlier that relationship would be "odd" heheh
@@makodafuq8711 The thing is she was saying that she had an argument against it other than it's creepy but couldn't provide it.
@@makodafuq8711 Yeah but that's just an opinion aka 'it gives me the ick', full stop. She couldn't actually provide an argument on how and why that is morally wrong. Also, do you believe an 18-year-old dating a 40-year-old is creepy?
@@makodafuq8711 Also interesting phrasing there "... 40-year-old man married to just turned 18 year old is creepy" This implies he was waiting for her to turn 18 so he could date her, which was not her point, she also said dating an 18-year-old not marrying, you're also typing like this 18-year-old didn't have a say in whether she wanted to get married or not.
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple
Yeah but a 18-year-old could do only fans and you guys say you go girl😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Facts!!! This is the hypocrisy and absurd to even have an age gap argument
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
Just discovered this Andrew Wilson guy, he is an absolute SAVAGE, a cool, calm, intellectual SAVAGE.
Cool and calm? he acts like a condescending A** hole to me.
Check out the crucible if you havent, its andrews debate channel. Its so high tier. Makes destiny debates look like preschool playground arguments
Cool and calm are not words I would use to describe him in these clips.
"I'm gonna go have a sigaret" epic 😂
“Men dont want me so I think theyre all creeeeepy. REEEEEEE!”
Men don’t want her because she’s illogical and annoying.
Let the 🧂 flow
Spot on 😂😂😂😂
You're a liar lol men clearly want that girl
And any dude who's that experienced who wants a girl with zero experience is a manipulative creep
literally the only reason these hags complain about this
Men do not idolize or glorify virgins… men just simply value them… that’s it
Tell that to Mohammad
@@byMRTNjournals and how does that apply to the dating market of today?
@@noneofyourbusiness792 Rotherham
@@byMRTNjournals the exception does not make the rule. I could care less about what Mohamed values… I stand by my first statement
@@byMRTNjournals Simp.
There are stages of development. Just because a person’s brain isn’t fully developed, doesn’t mean it hasn’t been developed to an extent that they can make certain philosophical decisions.
>>doesn’t mean it hasn’t been developed to an extent that they can make certain philosophical decisions
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple
The same woman will tell you an OF worker that was reborn as Christian definitely deserve high value man...
They've tried the whole body count shouldn't matter thing and that didn't work so now they are trying the "hey I rebooted myself so it's all good" thing.
Most of these girls only fans subscribers are 40 year olds. By her logic shouldn’t she ban all 40+ year olds from being able to give her money?
No because she isn’t sleeping with them or dating them.
40 yo old Men don't know corn is free? I'm completely against corn by the way, it makes you a weak Man
@@TimeWillTell651but it's ok for her to exploit them for their money?
If the laws and ick morality in the Western world made any kind of sense in wanting to truly protect 18 year Olds they would make it a crime for them to have OFs, do porn, don't make them go to war, make it illegal for them not to live at home, criminalize any sex between 18 year Olds and younger since their brains aren't developed as they claim then they shouldn't be doing any adult stu
@@CiroMastino Yeah, why they paying for sh!t that they can get for free?
@@GidarGamingyeah I've never understood that.
She is just jealous that older men know she has hit the wall and want women younger than her. Very pathetic.
Jealous and dumb to boot.
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always. cuz these same women were the same lil girls who went after 20-30yr olds as minors 😂 but instantly get upset once they don’t get that attention anymore
Crazy thing she doesn't even look old. She could be anywhere from 18-25
The girl sitting next to Andrew with her arms crossed and pissed look on her face, that's how women sit when they have to take accountability.
If a man can't have a high body count and want a woman with a low one, how can a woman feel normal about being broke expecting a rich man?
Great question 😂 Their woman's intuition never kicks in to show them the absurdity of their entitlements.
Imagine a man saying he feels the "ick" and that its "immoral" that a woman wants a man richer or taller than her
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple
"Everything is creapy or misogyny" because she already failed and don't qualify... And desperately trying to get others to fail like her... So sad...
That's every woman today. Everything is creepy even saying hello. It's getting tiresome
Women will sabotage themselves and other women so they don't face accountability and misery alone.
Says so in the scriptures 😂
@@craigclermond8001 It’s only creepy if they don’t like you. If they like you, it’s flirting. Guy was talked to by HR for holding the door for a woman…so yeah.
Andrew shooting fish in a barrell - as always
It’s awesome to see 😂😂😂
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
"I'M GONNA GO HAVE A CIGARETTE!!!"... LEGEND
Young pure virgins are hotter than older non-virgin women.
Word.
@@niyah5299 then you're young and hot.
How old the man, how young the virgin?
@@niyah5299He is a pervert and only refers to young because of being a closet paedophile, as are most of the men in these comments.
@@lucyjane1183 ....I didn't mention a man. What is your question?
"All these standards men have disqualify me for a serious relationship."
Thanks feminism
🤷🏽♂️ buy a dog
This was actually a really good one. Kudos to Andrew for the solid thorough dismantling there.
I'm not sure what point he was trying to make tbh.
She wasn't much better, what she seemed to be intimating is power dynamics but not all that well.
Well, to be honest, the point they were arguing over was small, but hinged upon it is an entire mindset. Basically, when men have preferences, society finds any excuse to call their preference shameful or creepy. It's just one more way men are being attacked in modernity. His argument wasn't so much to make a point, but to dismantle hers.
@@Valen-mh9fh He was attacking her argument in a Socratic way by asking questions and deconstructing her argument with her own answers and pointing out fallacies. Andrew is a debater who loves what he does or at least that's the impression he leaves. But to insinuate that its grooming behavior for a 40yoM to date an 18yoW is a ridiculous argument and she failed to provide a moral argument.
@@AAJillSandwich Andrew just acted like a toddler by screaming and using a high pitched voice. She is not advocating for the age of consent to be changed or that older men dating younger women are groomers. She is saying that the age difference, as in men seeking women who just became old enough to consent, is creepy. I would agree. There is hardly a difference between someone who is 18 and a 16/17 year old on a maturity/intellect level. A lot of older men want the innocence and maturity of a teenager while making sure they are just old enough to consent. That is creepy.
@@ryanmccafferty8196
That's his normal voice pitch he did raise his voice but that's hardly screaming. and he wasn't screaming either have you actually seen or heard someone scream in your lifetime.
Also why does the age matter to you, a 30yo/25yo or even another 18yo can take advantage of the naivety of an 18yo what the age limit on that? If an 18yo has the intellectually and maturity of a minor (16/17) then why should they be allowed to vote, sit on committees that make policies for other people, manage their own businesses or have any adult relationships/responsibilities that minors aren't prepared for. What if a woman got pregnant at 18 should that child be removed from her custody because she isnt mature enough? This raises so many questions that are far more important than some middle-aged man's choice in girlfriends. If a woman is old enough for all of this she's old enough to consent to a relationship.
As Andrew was asking can you provide a moral argument as to why it's wrong and not because you find it creepy which is not a moral argument.
Leave it to women who have given their body away more than charity work, to call a man creepy for wanting an untouched, pure woman!
right. call us insecure cuz we don’t think having a woman that’s been used as a come dumpster is attractive. but then they’ll be hesitant to say they want their kids to follow their path
That’s not what she was saying, they didn’t understand her.
She was saying that men who only pursue virgins to have 1 night stands with is creepy and I do agree with her there, that’s creepy as hell.
If you’re looking for someone to be with forever and you want a virgin, that’s excellent but to have continuous 1 night stands with only virgins is weird as hell.
@@samomico9536 there may be 1 percent of men (or less) that would use a virgin for a one night stand. If a man had access to a virgin, he’s putting her in the keeper category.
@@samomico9536 "men who pursue virgins to have one night stands?"
This is called moving the goal post. When have men EVER said this. That wasn't even what they were talking about.
Men, in mass, seek beauty, purity and youth in women... not all will or can, but the absolute grand majority wants this. This is why in China or Japan, 28yrs+ cannot find a man because the men do not want them; they are literally called leftovers... look it up, ask Chinese women.
@@samomico9536 It's not weird. It's biologically normal. Old women view young men the same way. I know from personal experience.
This is just another example of women not having or wanting to accept any responsibility.
How does she know what men think?🤔 like what
and this women can vote😒 oh god save us
America never recovered from the 19th...
Society has been doomed since the last centuries
God*
Woman*
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
Wow, that basically sounded like he was arguing with a child. Her lack of foundation just made the conversation go in circles
I was 29 with 44 yrs old woman. Worse decision ever. They dont matured...always victim n think they deserve the world just because. So yeah, after 18 go get her. They have better chance to bond than older ran through women
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple. 😂
No seal no deal
No hymen no diamond?
Prime example of arguing just to be right....
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
Simps inflates their ego
How do you "train" someone to be "yours"? You know people can leave people based on how they feel about them at any age. If an 18 yr old woman can vote (using the guy's narrative), she has the brain capacity to stand up and leave a 40+ yr old man. If a man were to refuse for her to leave that's holding her hostage, this woman has no logical argument.
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
Here's the response of so many people when she says SHE finds it "morally wrong": Eff your feelings!
An 18 year old women has the right by law to decide for herself with who want to have sex or to marry
Law dictates morality? Age of consent in Nigeria is 11, guess its fine to do if you fly there then right?
@RaNd0mGaMeRzZ no its the other way round. Morality dictates law.
It's not our fault Nigeria is morally corrupt.
@@RaNd0mGaMeRzZ your example is about one small part of the world . Morality dictatr the law and it is a common law of 18 years old in almost any part of this world. Do I have to remind you of the harsh reality of Nigeria to make you UNDERSTAND the coruption that rule in the Nigerian society ? The murders and atrocities and everything that is NOT acceptable in a NORMAL society ??? I rest my case ...and IF you don't know what I am talking about you can always ask our friend (Google) . Not being informed is NOT an excuse FOR NO ONE !
@@ionboldi9525 A lot of western men travel to the Philippines for sex tourism. The legal age of consent was just increased from 12 to 16. The legal age for OF is 18 - it’s all good as long as it’s following the law 😂 Let’s be honest if the legal ages of consent were reduced in western countries, men would not have an issue at all with it. Legal ages change “morals and principles” they are just deterrents at the end of the day.
@@AmonAnon-vw3hr If morality dictates law, and the general consensus in the west is that 18 should be the age of consent. Why is the age of consent in most of the US and the western world below 18?
What is the 18 year old woman getting from the 40 year old man? I'm sure its a lot more than compliments.
It’s immoral in both ways.
That’s one thing I can’t agree with Andrew on, someone going after a girl their daughter’s age is disgusting, most people WILL agree with that therefore it is generally immoral.
Same thing with an 18 year old Pursuing men her father’s age, that’s weird as hell.
I don’t know why the chick didn’t just say that.
@@samomico9536 You're arguing with over 10,000 years of recorded human history: knowledge and experience. KNOWLEDGEABLE men want good women who desire knowledge. Age is not a factor. These men are idiots?
The dad they were denied
@@samomico9536Why is it immoral?
What if the woman is 30 and the man 50? How about 40 and 60?
The woman is an adult, therefore she gets to make her decisions. She can date someone her age or someone the age of her grandfather. It may seem odd to some people that's not a moral argument.
@@brittager There's the legal definition of an adult and then there's the societal perception. An 18 yr old and a 17 year old are viewed completely different in a legal sense but there is virtually no distinction in terms of physical, mental and emotional maturity and therefore most people don't make much of a distinction in how they view said person. Current legality aside do you personally see it as morally wrong for a 40 year old to date/marry a 17 year old?
"I'm gonna go have a cigarette."
I friggin LOVE Andrew!!! 😂
She says it's immoral for a 40 year old man to have consensual relations with an 18 year old woman.
Immoral for whom? If it's just immoral for the man, then you are sexist. If it's immoral for the 18 year old woman, then she'sconsistent, but... why? Can she not choose who she loves? Has she no agency?
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
She's jealous that younger beautiful women are getting cared for by older men, if she had an older husband who was super rich she wouldn't find it "creepy" it's only "creepy" if it doesn't benefit her, honestly what a child, she needs to take a look in the mirror and be a better person, no wonder why she's single. She's the one who's "predatory" she's the problem, she's the issue, she's jealous and bitter
She's just upset that she blew the chance to get the man she wanted i.e. well to do and much older, so she is just throwing the lazy ad hominem that those men are creeps for going after the women who didn't give her virginity away like a morning cup of coffee.
Literally every chick I knew in high school was dating much older boys who were already in Uni and their excuse was they mature faster than boys so it gave them carte blanche to go after men in their 20's.
Just seems women always have a ready made excuse when it suits them.
Dude literally young women in their 20s don't necessarily go for older men. My boyfriend is only three years older than me.
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
Andrew should be a permanent guest he adds the “good cop bad cop” aspect to combat the hosts softness. He is smart and articulates all of his points very well.
“Wait can I jump in on this real quick”
Guest shuts host down and continues his argument lol
Respect to Andrew but come on you don’t let women treat you like this on your show but you allow him.
@@SayntNyk Sometimes when a guest is working through an argument, especially one you agree with, the host is smart to let them finish. Most of the women he interjects his thoughts with are circle talking and he's trying to move things along.
Talking facts with modern women is like sleeping on a bed covered in broken glass , you can try it , but you’re gonna probably get ure ass cut up .
I think its creepy when men and women of the same age marry. He could be her brother. And what is a boy of 20 doing having kids? He can't support himself, let alone a woman and children.
It is modernism that decided that "same age" was the normal pairing age. But we have the least healthy relationships in human history. Whatever we are doing isn't working.
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💯 This is a modern invention entirely. So is public school- a communist youth corruption camp
>>He could be her brother.
if there is a significant age gap the man and the woman are at different levels of maturity hence making it easy for one person to be manipulated. "he coudl be her brother" that does not even make sense he is not her brother. i know you are trying to make a reduction with the "he could be her father" argument which is based on a misunderstanding of the point people who advocate for actually normal relationships are making. if a man in his 40s is dating a woman in her early 20s he is Literally old enough to be her father. that is a fact, it exemplifies the crass weirdness of such relationships, and they are not common, men and women were always roughly the same age when marrying.
@@mateopribyl9218 Your posting is so full of logical fallacies AND NONFACTUAL CLAIMS that I'm not going to bother addressing them all.
Most women don’t want virgin men. Why is incel an insult?
Exactly!
It goes back to show you why God never intended people to be fornicators. Because women that have become fornicators all develop 304 mindsets.
They remember all these different men and want all these different men at different times. Which is why none of them are marriage material.
They just get bored and then want a new rod to experience.
Girls being virgins until married or low body counts is exactly what the fck it was supposed to be from the beginning.
Old married 304 are still 304s as well, because most of them only got married after they got done in the streets.
Basically, the women want men to have the same preferences as women.
Most women want a stable man. Not a womaniser.
She does not understand what morality means… just because it gives you an ick, it does not mean it’s immoral… my goodness.
This broad skipped past every question and NEEEVER answered anything she was asked by switching the subject
Why is it when the question of age gap comes up, the ladies always go to the "brain isn't developed till 25" excuse?
It's not even true. If people's brains stopped developing at 25, we would all have dementia in our 30s. Our brains pretty much never stop developing until we're very old and our mental capacity starts to decline.
Cause they are attempting to sound rational. All the while not realizing they are only illustrating their own ignorance of what sort of development is occurring until 25.
It's the development of the neural pathways for executive function. Which are only going to develop through actually making decisions for oneself and via experiences.
If we were to, say, push legal adulthood back to 25 and treat those people like children still, you'd invariably see that not become fully developed until the late 20's if not early 30's. 🙄
Because it allows them to be a victim for as long as possible.
Bc that’s been their “reasoning” for this question since way back when 😒 I remember in high school girls always wanted older men and there were some that were in relationships with 20 something year olds like bruh wtf are you doing?
They just parrot whatever they hear on social media. It's no coincidence that they have the same opinion on damn near everything. They can't think for themselves.
Nobody wants a used car that has been thrashed and has nasty bodywork and makes horrible noises
“Your moral argument is it’s my opinion…… I’m going to go have a cigarette” 😂😂😂😂😂
The president of France is married to his former high school teacher. She is 20 years his senior
“She” is a dude
Is that the man woman? Or is that the Canadian
@@ObservingTheSusCanadian is trudau I'm talking about macron .
Not sure the man women could be a few of them , we have an epidemic of feminine men and masculine women these days 🤔
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
Andrew destroyed this little girl... she obviously doesn't know her subject matter and thinks she's right but offers no factual content. Predatory opinions don't offer substantial arguments. Her ego is refusing to admit that she wrong and has lost several times. Just Saying
She's not wrong though. Once you're not a virgin you can't take it back. If both a man and a woman later in life decide they want to wait for marriage after they slept around then nether should go for virgins. Virgin women are for Virgin men. Spiritually/biblically it's wrong for non-virgins to sleep with virgins. Just as only the divorced/widowed should only those who also were divorced/widowed. You don't get to live a life of sin and then try and find someone who hasn't lived a life of sin and corrupt them.
Not really. She respectfully debated his points and he just mocked her. Makes me wonder why this topic pisses him off so badly? He’s horrible at debate.
@Dandeliontea1893 Nah..you must have been watching another debate. Andrew literally dismantled EVERY point she raised.
@@adamwarlock5286 You have to love the guy that names himself the debate God., Doesn't the God he pretends to believe in have some kind of rule against calling yourself that?
i know it is not the right way of answering a question with another question but you can always shut them down real quickly by saying women, in general, make amount x of money but want dudes making 3x or more.. so?? according to your logic, that is creepy or predatory, no?
then have fun listening to them stutter
Men admire virgins because they know a woman who doesn't use her super power is truly disciplined. Its like Clark Kent and why we admire him.
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
A perfect example of this is the tinder preferences. If an older man matches with an 18 year old woman it always spotlights the guys as a predator. The question is never asked why was that girl even setting her preferences to that old of men in the first place. Do these girls complain about these 40 year olds paying for their onlyfans content?
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
A woman over 18 can fall in love with anyone of any age.
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
“Most men over 40 have a child around the age of 18, its like dating your daughter”
What? LMAO 😂😂
So? All 18 year Olds share the same DNA as all men over 40?
Wow! I missed out on one hell or an orgy between when was aged 16 to 22. 😂😂😂😂
i think she meant 40 is old enough to be a father to an 18 year old daughter. which is true. but i also find the concept of cougars creepy. i think the rule of thumb is that if you're old enough to be someone's parent, you probably shouldnt be having relations with that person.
@Reaver1223 I think the rule of thumb is two consenting adults can do whatever they want. Men like young women it is programmed into biology and I won't for one second say it's wrong.
@@Jay-og4yb I didn’t say consenting adults can’t do whatever they want. I said adults who are far enough in age to be parent and child probably shouldn’t be with each other since it’s creepy as fuck (unless they’re both senior citizens I guess). Pedophiles are also programmed biologically to be attracted to children. Your biological programming doesn’t automatically make your desires morally acceptable lol
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple. Couples of the same age have only 1% chance of divorce. Couples 10 years or more in age gap are at 95+%
Why would you want single mothers and widows and divorce rates and also children with genetic problems (sperm loses its genetic quality after 40)????!!!
Where do you find these people? Some of these women are so clueless! This hurts my brain!
Women: "Young women are attracted to older men"
Also women: "Older men are not allowed to be attracted to younger women"
Andrew is by far the best Co Host on this show
He should be the host. Brian is scatterbrained and incoherent many times.
So because I can't cook, I shouldn't want a wife that can cook?
You're such a hypocrite!!! (/sarcasm)
by ur logic it is normal for a 40 year old to marry a 18 year old? okayyyy
@@makodafuq8711 define normal. It's far less immoral than what the average 18 year old woman is up to that's for sure
@@user-tx4wj7qk4t normal is age margin of 5-7 years of gap betwwn older male and younger female. Ofc different parts of world have this margin different but the average one worldwide is 5-7 years. Youre welcome
Whats the chick's age? Its definitely over 25...its extremely rare to find women under 25 who care about age gaps
I can't believe she actually ASKED why a 40 year old man would want sex with an 18 year old female! Did she really SAY that?
I can assure you sweetie, it's not for 'training'
😂 ikr. She's tighter and hotter for starters without most of the emotional baggage.
shes against it because shes not one anymore and she finds it unfair that the most high value men are not looking at her....tough shit. I reckon all the 18-24 year old women have a specific message to her
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple. Couples of the same age have only 1% chance of divorce. Couples 10 years or more in age gap are at 95+%
Why would you want single mothers and widows and divorce rates and also children with genetic problems (sperm loses its genetic quality after 40)????!!!
That virgin question bothers women who aren’t virgins plain and simple. Because if she was a virgin, it wouldn’t matter to her she’d have no reference to get the ick from
"But he doesn't want ME, and that's creepy." - her, probably.
Idk if thats necessarily true. I wasn’t promiscuos and not bcs of religion beliefs but no way in hell I would have dated someone who had slept left and right, I avoided those type of men at all cost. And even if it had happened I felt in love with one but I felt he was overly happy I was a virgin I would have found that weird enough to not pursue. I too believe one should stay in their lane If they have been in a certain way and not ACTIVELY looking for virgins. In fact I wish no virgin or very low body count would give such men any chance but give their attention to many good men out there bcs sleeping around purely just for some s3x is wrong and disgusting no matter what.
She needs to know when she lost. Men like younger and women like older.
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
Wait whats the other way arround? Cuz she only Says " A OLDER MEN" does she know cougar exists? and i dont mean the cat.
A fully developed frontal cortex helps you understand calculus. It doesn't prevent you from making stupid life choices.
That's the opposite of true, prefrontal cortex is for emotional regulation, decision making etc. It literally does prevent bad life choices lmao.
and the development occurring is in the formation of neural pathways; not gray matter, not the foundational framework.
Tell us, how are neural pathways, such as with executive functions when it comes to emotional regulation, decision making, etc. formed? 🙃
(Hint: It doesnt happen by itself)
@@RaNd0mGaMeRzZ All evidence to the contrary...😂
As proven from our society, its the content of the brain that matters.
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple. Couples of the same age have only 1% chance of divorce. Couples 10 years or more in age gap are at 95+%
Why would you want single mothers and widows and divorce rates and also children with genetic problems (sperm loses its genetic quality after 40)????!!!
Men don't carry their past with them, women do
Can someone please teach these women that when speaking in multiples, the word is WOMEN not woman...it's like speaking of plural is lost to anyone under 40 when...every single female I've seen across multiple podcasts says woman when they're saying something about women in either instances singular or plural
It must mean they are crazy feminists that are constantly talking like assholes
“Biology is ICKEEEYYY! REEEEE!”
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The Philippines has women. The USA has irresponsible little girls with daddy issues who want stuff.
Love from Poland, Manny ❤
And in Ethiopia 😂😂😂
FYI some rental branches will let 21 year olds rent a car, just the smaller cars at a higher price, and in even more rare circumstances, down to 18
Any woman could reach a body count in 100s in a couple weeks doing absolutely nothing. You damn near have to be a demigod as a man to accomplish that in a lifetime.
Best argument against these couples is that statistically 95% of them end in divorce.
Yeah.
So if you're the kind of guy who hates divorce rates and single mothers, then you should hate oldies who go after girls.
It's that simple.
This show really knows how to pick women who have no common sense or accountability. And it makes majority of women look like every panel that comes on and speaks.
Really Simple Fellas...Women will "ALWAYS" have an "ick" or problem with a Man's standards...they/Woman don't fit or adhere to! Essentially Women want to be desired by ALL Men, whether they want that Man or not. Hope this helps! Be Safe out there Guys!
I've never understood why it's creepy for older guys to be attracted to younger, legal women. Are they supposed to be attracted to women their age? Have you ever seen a 50 year old woman? Compared to her 25 year old counterpart?
Yes they are supposed to be attracted to women their own age, such as in their 20's attracted to women in their 20's, in their 30's attracted to women in their 30's so on and so forth.
@@lucyjane1183lol but older women are ugly . Men are attracted to looks . Women are attracted to status . Makes sense for older men and younger women to get together
@@lucyjane1183just because an older man is old doesn’t mean he is attracted to an older women’s look
I have a teenage daughter of legal age, are you saying you don't understand why its creepy for older guys to want to fuck her, rather than women their own age?
@@lucyjane1183If it's such an issue why not raise the age of consent like mentioned in the video?
She doesn't have a clue why he is bringing up the 'Vote' argument. 😆
We all absolutely hate hearing that potential partners have preferences which we are not (or no longer) able to provide ourselves and hence our options dwindle... Losing hurts. So does hitting the wall. And it also seemingly makes us look weak af if we openly acknowledge this fact. Better point fingers. Nobody will know.
Ladies and gentlemen. Give it up for the great Andrew Wilson @theCrucible 😂😂😂😂