Atari Announces the 7800+ and Games Galore!
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- Atari just announced the 7800+ plus 10 physical game carts. They also are releasing a wireless 2600/7800 controller. Preorder here: atari.com/coll...
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it warms my heart to see console manufacturers actually embracing homebrews and capitalizing on them in a fair way.
nintendo could learn from this.
It's great to see physical media come back. Make Video Games Great Again!
Agreed!
Hope they make 5200+
Because 5200s are rare, and if you watch avgn, you'll know the controllers never work🤣
I would definitely be in on that
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Atari can make better controllers for that.
But I think they should also make an Intellivision+.
They probably should have done that already.
We had a 5200 when I was kid, and we played the heck out of it before we got our 7800. So, I would be down for a 5200+.
Fascinating to see Atari 7800 games
Still trying to complete my 7800 collection. Looks like the numbers just went up, as these are licensed by Atari, they count towards completionism.
70 games now instead of 59
7800 is the easiest collection. There was less than 30 games officially released.
@drcat1313 59, but now close 70...more than 30
@@rustymixer2886 I'm not counting copies from atari 2600. Atari used the same games over and over again. They even used the same sound chip for some reason
Nice to see they also did the European controller design! (I'm a bit biased being from the UK) Always loved that controller!
Very cool!
And console is pal shell too
I lived my Atari days back in the early 80s. Loved the art on the box.
OMG! Atari 7800! Can´t wait.
I hope they make new 7800 games that really push the hardware to the limit when I first saw Rikki and Vikki on 7800 blew my mind the game looked better than a lot of nes games!
For the have a ton of stuff already OG collectors I think the most important to get are Caverns of Mars 2600 and Bounty Bob Strikes Back for 7800. The rest are all good but depends on what you are collecting. The 7800+ is most likely a 2600+ (which plays 7800 games) with newer firmware. One question I haven't yet heard the answer for is if the 7800+ will have a functional pause feature, hopefully it does.
Maybe hitting 1&2 buttons same time
All of these games have been enhanced from their homebrew originals.
Simply reading the product descriptions on ATARI's website reveals this.
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Very exciting news , I picked up the 7800 bundle with the extra controllers, and also the Bounty Bob game. BTW if you have any atai club sale codes don't forget to try them for a discount.
Yes I’m happy about that I prefer the 7800 shell over the 2600 shell
Huge Atari News! I love it all. I love all the carts coming out. Great stuff! Thanks for the video, John!
You bet!
@johnhancockretro will it be able to play harmony cart , homebrews or roms ?
Bounty Bob is awesome, I played this a ton as a kid. I should check and see if my Dad still has the old Atari 800 in the basement next time I visit.
I hope they make a Atari Jaguar plus
If it would play the cartridges like the other plus consoles that would be great. I own 3 Jaguars but only 1 works, the other two have been messed with (bootrom swap for BJL gone wrong, twice). Instant pre-order for me even if it’s emulated.
@@Htbaa Jaguars are so rare. If you could find someone to fix them for you it would be so worth it.
@@productions4452 yeah there’s a local repair shop here. Had them replace the drives of my Jaguar CD’s but they wouldn’t even read discs after that so had the originals placed back in there. That was money down the drain. I already have replacement boot ROMS but haven’t gotten to it to send the units in for repair.
Who wants an Atari Lynx+?
I sure do
Hell yeah! With a good, rechargeable battery please
A shame Amazon here in Brazil do not sell the Plus consoles and accessories.
Missed opportunity.
It seems too similar to the 2600+ that it makes little difference to me which one to purchase if at all, so hopefully we'll learn more as we get closer to its physical release.
Let's be honest.... this is a 2600+ in a new shell.... the only thing I understand to be different is a wireless controller... until it can run a Harmony cart, I'm good.
And of course, another great video... thank you!
It's definitely a risky move. Hopefully it sells well for them.
Not really why they made this product, but understand why people want it to work with that. Plays Pitfall II though.
@@johnhancockretro The 2600+ already does with the custom firmware and very likely will when they release an official update.
That's why I just stick with real hardware & flash carts.
@provisionalhypothesis Different in that it's a new design less apt to bend.
Oh man, I’m very excited for this! And I love everything Epyx! Glad I saw this John, thanks!!!
Hope you enjoy it!
@@johnhancockretro ❤️🎮
Atari has become what the "Company" formerly known as Intellivision Entertainment desperately wanted to be.
Would be cool ro see sega and. Nintendo do this and have modern release of their systems of the past
Was thinking the same thing! They could even make new games for old hardware! There is money to be had in retro gaming, these companies are leaving on the table!
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to Bounty Bob Strikes Back.
Thanks for keeping us informed, you're the man!
Good video! Sounds Very interesting! I like the idea of this new Atari 7800+ system! Nice!
Been a collector since 2002, and now own over 3000 games. The only Atari I own is a Jaguar bought complete in box back in 2008, and now own roughly 40 of the 50 official games all complete.
I always said I would own a 2600, Intellivision, and Colecovision one day, but decided to give up once we entered the HD era (I only own one CRT).
I am so jacked and excited for the 7800+ as I had made the decision about 20 years ago to go with thr 7800 over the 2600 due to it's compatibility with the 2600.
Obviously, I never bought one sadly, but this one coming out with support for modern displays, and new games/ports as well that are even compatible with original hardware.....
My god this is amazing already.
Now give me a modern Lynx dammit, as I have never owned one either, but want one SO BAD!!!!
This is cool, bu I really wish Atari had alowed people outside North America to buy the Atari VCS console/PC system.
They should also apply for a license to LucasFilm and finally do Return of the Jedi in the same wireframe 3D style as their original Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back arcade cabinets. They could stick out a collection of all three games, plus Parker Bros' two Star Wars games and the isometic ROTJ and the other unreleased games they were working on and have that on all the current consoles and PC, but do some physical carts fo those who want to go old school.
CZcams recommended your video, so I checked it out. That’s awesome you still have your original 7800 box.
Fantastic news, John! The year 1986 returns with a vengeance! I'm also a tremendous Atari 7800 fan, like you, and I'm super pumped about the new official cartridge releases, as well as the new Atari 7800+ console! And now they are bringing us wireless Atari 2600 and 7800 controllers??? I couldn't have asked for anything better! I spoke with Phil, aka Retro Bliss Gaming, the other day and he led me to believe he is as excited about this announcement as I am! Hopefully, we'll hear an opinion from him on the subject as well, as soon as he returns from vacation! It's so great to receive all this wonderful retro gaming content from you guys who love classic gaming so very much! Thanks for all of your time and effort to produce such a terrific and entertaining channel! ☺️👍👍✨️
Atari is being consistent and that's great news for everyone, they found a way to have a market.
I still wish some Atari XE mini release. (I know the 400 Mini emulates it but the XE was my very own first system)
Thanks John!
Fingers crossed!
The Atari 7800 has pretty similar graphics to the Commodore 64
I preordered this immediately when i saw your video. I've been debating the 2600+ but this is even better. I noticed the joystick ports are in the front this time! Great video John. Thanks.
A new masters of the universe game 🙏
That's Awesome! Great news! (Sega! Please! Sega Master System Mini! )
That would rock as well!!!
@@johnhancockretro :D
sounds like fun. hope it will work with a numeric keypad that Bounty Bob will require to work natively.
As a UK Atari fan, I hope this stuff gets worldwide shipping.
Thanks for the video, John! STOKED!!!!
I love seeing what’s going on with Atari these days. I’m really hoping they get to a point where they can finally release the Panther. This is probably just a dream though.
normally i pass these console re-releases but the cart slot alone makes this worth picking up
I wish that technology could have somehow stalled or maxed out at the 7800 and NES, it would be amazing to see how many great games could have been created if that was all there is and creators had to really push the liits of the technology and they’re own creativity. (sorry your genesis never came out in this timeline, but my real happy zone was the 80s video games. I never really went past that. My girlfriend came with a gamecube, and I really like the format of that console, but the games don’t do it for me the same way. Theres some kind of magic in the 8 bit format, it seems to be a sweet spot between graphics capability and having to use your own imagination the way you do when reading a book that is really enjoyable and comforting to me.
I love it all, they could’ve just released one or two little things, but they went all out and gave us a whole slate of new awesome products for multiple platforms. Pure awesome.
I bought four more Activision games for the Atari Video Computer System from Amazon. Grand Prix, Kaboom, Keystone Kapers and Sky Jinks. Four more challenges, four more patch scores to achieve.
Knew you'd be exited about this came to find your video :D
I love it. I think this is the way they should have gone. I’ve never had a 7800 but I think its cool. I hope I fall into some money to support all of my hobbies!
Old man wouldn't let us have a 2600 back in the day so I played my friends all the time. Our first console was 7800. Fond memories of simple games that were discounted at the time but we didn't care. We were just happy to have our first atari and catch up
I am nuts and I pre-ordered my 7800+.
I did not have to as I already have the 2600+ which essentially they are the same boards pretty much in that both can do 2600 & 7800 games.
It is my way of supporting a company that is giving us systems that can run on HDMI and do not have to mess with trying to get the original hardware working on modern TVs and such.
My honest opinion is I never was into those plug and play type as I wanted to be able to play my old carts too.
And that is my nutty excuse of buying a 2600+ and now a 7800+ as it is me just not only supporting Atari but giving my thumbs up of approval of making a retro game system that actually plays the old and new carts and not just another plug and play that has like 40 games or something.
And the instance I get wind of an Intellivision+ I am so on that console.
I feel it in my old bones that Atari will do an Intellivision+ it is just when we will get it. :)
Now we need a flash cart with this to load it up with all the 2600/7800 games!
This is kind of opposite of that and not what they are going for.
Awesome!! Day 1 for me!
Jaguar+ next please Atari!!
Would love to see one.
Excited to hear about the 7800+ coming out. I'm a big fan of the system so will be grabbing one this winter. I've always kept an original 7800 around because it's been the only way outside of the arcade to play a decent port of Food Fight, which is among my favorites.
WOW this is amazing. Thank you so much for the heads up!
You're so welcome!
Its really cool of you to mention the fact that these new games work on the old hardware. I still play my original 7800 regularily as i often have a good old blast on Robotron 2048. Still my favorite Atari game. And to be able to buy New games for it without paying for the 7800+ is awesome
Oops. My dyslexia got me there. I meant Robotron 2084 😂
No worries, I knew what you meant.
Yesterday I pre-ordered Frenzy, Crystal Quest and two wirless CX-78 controllers. I already have a 2600+ so I don't need this new console, but the 7800+ is a good model for anyone who didn't pick up last year's offering. I'd love to see an Intellivision+, and some kind of 5200/Jaguar hybrid? Either way, looking forward to what they do next.
i hope they release a wireless version of the wico command controller that was my favorite to use as a kid
All good news!
They should release the 7800 version of Double Dragon. I never got to play that version. Just remember reading about it in like EGM back in the day and them saying that it didn't suffer all the flickering that NES had, and it was supposed to be a pretty decent port given the limitations of the system.
Other companies need to look at what Atari is doing and re-release hardware. Come on Sega and Nintendo.
They don’t need the money…yet
@@johnhancockretro Briefly we did get those Sega branded controller re-releases by Retro-Bit so that's something.
The price for the console isn't bad. If nothing else it would be a good way to play vintage games on new hardware and save some wear and tear on your vintage console.
This sounds awesome, I’ll be investing in the 7800+
It's definitely a nostalgia piece, but I don't see anything to draw new players. I'm definitely going to buy it.
I am usually not very excited by emulation hardware, however this has really gotten me considering picking it up!
So, I’m a bit confused. Do the new 7800 cartridges also work on the 2600+? If so, are they effectively the same emulator hardware, except the 7800+ comes in a different styled case and has the wireless receivers inbuilt? In other words, if you have a 2600+ with a new wireless cx78+, is the game play of a 7800 cartridge identical between the 2600+ and the 7800+? 🤔
Yeah, except I read somewhere that the 7800+ may be using a different emulator than Stella? Not sure about that, though.
Yup
@@greenmachine5487 Hmm.. I was about to finally get a 2600+ on special, now I'm confused about whether I should wait for the 7800+. I have no nostalgic affilliation with the 7800 style case, so I'm only concerned that it might be more capable / more perfected, than the 2600+, and I haven't the budget to buy both!
No it’s using Stella. States that on the preorder page. Uses Pro System for 7800 games
@@johnhancockretro Oh, okay. Thanks for straightening that out before that rumor gained traction.
This is the earliest I've ever been.
I had the original 7800 gamepad and i would hope they round-off the d-pad edges. If you have never used them before and think the NES is thumb blistering, well these are a whole new level of pain. It's a solid d-pad but needs the sharp edges rounded
i still have my original 2600 from 1982 it runs as good as it did the day i got it december 25th 1982
Love what atari are doing at the moment
Is that a joystick in my pants or did he just say that there’s new Atari consoles coming out?!?
My 2600+ still doesn’t play most 7800 games because I’m still on firmware V1, and getting it updated to V2 is a clunky and clugey mess I don’t have the time or energy to do. I love the console otherwise, but that left a bad taste for me and I’m reluctant to buy another product from them when they have a track record of releasing half baked products that are difficult to update.
Awesome! The Atari 7800+ was what I what hoping for from the beginning. Very nice indeed!
Nintendo and Sega need to take notes.
i am excited for you!
Atari is also doing a extended version of the 50th anniversary compilation...🤔
7800+ looks great. I'll probably pass since my 2600+ is
I have a 5200 actually and it's criminally overlooked it has the best berzerk on it
I love it!
Atari Forever!
Bentleyyyyy 🐻 is back 🙌
Nice, but why is the stick on the left side of the wireless controller? When I played videogames in the 80's and 90's, I always used my right hand for the joystick. Since all new controllers have the sticks on the left, I am limited on just using the classic controller or it is a catastrophic failure!
I've been waiting a year for "Save Mary" and "Dark Chambers" for the 2600+ -- Atari isn't getting another dime from me until they ship my games.
My 2600+ doesn’t recognize my Atariage 2600 Turbo with the prototype and 2008 finished released built in. That may be the reason why Frenzy and Berzerk got separated for compatibility for these new + consoles.
Speaking as a C64 gamer, I'm jealous of that Epyx "Games" collection! I didn't even know such a things was possible (licensing-wise).
The C64 was never big on first party software, but stuff like Epyx's "Games" games? It would be really awesome if whoever's in charge of Commodore's stuff could pull off these sorts of deals for old C64 titles.
Atari really has their act together, selling fans lots of stuff.
I can understand why Nintendo focuses on more profitable and relevant current stuff, but imagine what Apple or Microsoft could do on the side.
An Apple 2 Classic could be comfortably shrunk a good 25% while retaining the same full size keyboard, and it could be Apple IIGS compatible.
A Microsoft retro gaming machine could license the appearance of a random 80s PC clone and provide an old school DOS gaming experience.
They could be doing cool retro stuff like Atari. Why not?
Very awesome John!!!
Trying to work on a 2600+ video for this month. Didn’t do any of the updates though as none of them offered Keyboard and Driving controller use. At least as far as I could tell.
Look to finish 2600+ video by end of month. We’ll see how 7800+ looks.
Also want to ask-Do you think an Intellivision+ is in the cards for the future?
I'm excited for the new games, but as the 2600+ can play 7800 games, I'm having trouble justifying the purchase of the new console...if anything just for the aesthetics as a collectible and the wireless functionality?
They sell the controller separately as well for those with the 2600+
i don't want the games to be $40 dollars i'm glad atari didn't make make the games $40 dolars because i prefer games being affordable $20 and $30 dollars i think that's great smart move to me in my honest opinion that's just me i'm excited about atari 7800 plus i do want me one when it comes out soon in winter end of this year in 2024 but i respect your and everyone's difference opinions and perspectives
A 5200+ would make more sense than this - the carts are different. The 2600+ could play 7800 games hence the plus I'm not sure I understand who this is for.
I got an email about this earlier and I’m super excited. The 7800 was my childhood. It’s funny how back in the day I was jealous of my friends who had Nintendo, and these days I would rather play 7800. 😂
Very cool!
I take that back you know what this system is good for it's good for beginners and that's all😊
I haven't gotten a 2600+ yet. So now the question is, do I skip straight to the 7800+ or get both? Given the similar functionality, getting both would probably be more for the aesthetics of it. And I still have my original Vader 2600 and it mostly works (game select switch is broken).
Decisions decisions.
Definitely want to pick up some of the new 2600 and 7800 games.
I would choose one or the other. Honestly I would go with the 7800+ but that is me. This also is shipping with the most recent firmware so there is an advantage to getting this one out of the box.
Good news! More games! The wireless joystick works for the 2600 console old version?
Yes it will
@@johnhancockretro outstanding!
I also really want to see them offer an internal pokey/hokey! So disappointing about the XM Module never making it into wider distribution for people with original hardware. Getting a built-in soundchip upgrade, a much needed upgrade, is about the only thing that could make me consider getting one.
With the updates the 2600+ can emulate pokey and XM sound. My 7800 games takes advantage of this. Not extra special sound chips needed. The 7800+ won’t need these updates as it should play aftermarket games out of the box.
I think they should add pokey and DPC emulation to the 2600/7800 plus models, and release patched versions of the carts that included the sound chip in the cart or used the DPC (like Pitfall 2). I doubt there would be any way to get those games to work otherwise (although I just saw Ballblazer listed as working and it is a pokey game)... and the same could be done for Ram Plus carts from CBS... but for those they might be able to patch where calls to the extra ram use the extra ram in the console.
There are newer homebrews (such as Space Rocks) using the DPC (well, DPC+) chip as well.
Honestly, Pitfall 2 is one of the best games of all time for the 2600. It would be awesome to see it working on the new systems. Re-releases of 7800 games using Pokey Emulation (on the 7800+) would be great to see as well. One of the worst decisions of all time was leaving the Pokey off of the 7800 system in favor of having it added to the individual carts. TIA sound was poor at best, and the lack of quality audio output really hamstrung the 7800 against the NES. Many of the 7800 games LOOK better than the NES version - but the sound ruined the experience.
Pitfall II is now working and pokey sound is emulated :)
I wonder how the compatibility will be on the 7800+? Didn't the 2600+ have issues with certain titles?
Now ya did it. That cost me money!
If I didn’t already own the original 7800 I might consider buying this but I think I’ll just stick to playing it on my CRT but pretty neat though
I have loved seeing all the different reactions! Personally I am excited, especially about the new controllers and their publishing homebrew games as official now!!
I am also happy they went for euro livery (along with controllers lol) since I am in the euro region, also man those american controllers were uncomfortable
Same here!
If it plays flashcarts, I'm in.
I do love this, the 7800 form factor is so much nicer but, but, they should have recreated this and got it working with all modern indie games. We desperately need Champ Games support.
I think they are working on that. At least Pitfall II now works!
@@johnhancockretro I truly hope so. I love that we get a pack in game. They should have added Bentley Bear art to the console box.
I recently took possession of an old Atari7800ProSystem and about two dozen game cartridges, but the joysticks don't work.
I have a CRT TV and a good RF to HDMI adapter so video out doesn't matter to me. Old is as good as new.
I got excited when I saw this 7800+ because I'm hoping Atari has learned from the 2600+ and this one will work better.
But I think I'll be good with just getting replacement controllers. The CX78+ Gamepad is sold out at Amazon and Atari.
I'm not any more interested in wireless controllers than I was when Atari first introduced wireless joysticks in the '80s.
I'll need hardwired DB-9 compatibility for my old console.
Atari has learned from 2600+ and will have new firmware and hardware updates.
Off the chain!
Thinking to buy me one if the light gun works…
Light guns typically don’t work on HDTVs. Not many games utilized this as well