Wax potted vs unpotted guitar pickups - a back to back comparison with the same pickups

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  • čas přidán 11. 10. 2022
  • Featured in this video is a custom PAF style humbucker and a Cirrostratus Telecaster bridge pickup. Both available at www.alegree.co.uk/pages/alegr....
    Wax potting pickups was adopted to prevent microphonic squealing at higher gain and volume levels. Some of the very first pickups were produced without wax potting, Gibson PAFs being one notable example. Debate has raged on since the adoption of this practice about if it has a sonic affect on the pickup, and if it's even audible. We aim to put this to the test to answer the question - can guitarists in general tell the difference between unpotted and potted pickups in a blind tone test?
    We're using the very same pickups - not just the same model, like some other videos have done, to keep the test as accurate as possible. Every factor we can possibly control has been kept consistent to allow us the most scientifically accurate test we can put together to decide once and for all if wax potting makes an audible difference.
    We'll be following up this video with a compilation of the opinions provided in the comments and from other sources and diving into the numbers to see the distribution of answers. We'll see if the general consensus is correct, and if so, by how much, in our follow up video where we reveal the answers.

Komentáře • 20

  • @TristanJCumpole
    @TristanJCumpole Před 9 měsíci +8

    I've been building guitars for a good twenty-four years as of writing, and find that a little bit of microphonics help in instruments that have good wood; not specific types of "tonewood" as such, but those occasional pieces that just have resonance and feel alive. Like when you pick up one of ten Teles and find one that has real responsiveness and character. Pair this with some slightly (or very) microphonic pickups and the whole thing comes to life when working as part of an amplified system with closed loop feedback. Like anything, you can have too much of a good thing. Equally, heavily potted pickups have their own place but are more resistant to mechanical noise and unwanted stray feedback. Potting is just another characteristic you can dial in, not a good/bad absolute.

  • @murrayguitarpickups9545
    @murrayguitarpickups9545 Před rokem +2

    It could be confirmation bias but I prefer them unpotted unless I'm playing clean lines with high gain, then the overtones seem to make the attack mushy. I think its like choosing tyres for your car, you have to choose what's appropriate for your conditions and needs. You don't need snow tyres in the tropics, you don't need wax potting at low gain/volume

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 Před 2 měsíci

      high gain = distortion and squeal, maybe your hi-gain is at a very low volume?

  • @blop1738
    @blop1738 Před 2 měsíci +1

    *UNPOTTED*
    base + clean 0:48 -- back pup 1:00 ---- both pups 1:09 ---- no base 1:31 --- back pup 1:42 --- base + dist. 2:12 ---- dist. alone 2:55
    *POTTED*
    base + clean 3:54 --- back pup 4:06 --- both pups 4:14 --- no base 4:36 --- back pup 4:47 -- base + dist. 5:18 ----- dist. alone 6:00

  • @rocketpigrecords3719
    @rocketpigrecords3719 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I have a set of old unpotted GFS KMZ PAFs in an Agile. I definitely like them a lot, but I'm not entirely sure I'd not enjoy them just as much potted.
    A stock unboosted JCM800 can easily generate enough gain to create microphonic problems, and I tend to use boatloads of gain.
    The potted sounds in the demo certainly didn't seem to lose much "mojo" - I'd hardly call that ruined, myself.
    Certainly makes for a more useful instrument, which is why EVH potted his patent number pickup that's in Frankie.

    • @disco4535
      @disco4535 Před 2 měsíci

      Agreed with all your points

  • @hugooliveira1020
    @hugooliveira1020 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Unpotted band mix 0:49
    Potted band mix 3:54
    Unpotted only guitar 1:31
    Potted only guitar 4:36

  • @rowlandstraylight
    @rowlandstraylight Před rokem +1

    1 B potted
    2 A potted
    3 B potted
    4 B potted
    listenign through my TV, there's a difference, like rolling the tone pot back a bit and it sounds a bit like there's a very tight and short reverb on one set of pickups, presumably the unpotted ones. I generally don't use unpotted as they do embarassing things with a moderate distortion with a loud band.

  • @valdon116
    @valdon116 Před rokem

    What guitar is that?

  • @destroso
    @destroso Před rokem +3

    We never got the answer?

    • @Alegree
      @Alegree  Před rokem +3

      We'll be putting a follow up together soon.

  • @Hollambaby
    @Hollambaby Před rokem +1

    No. 1 A potted B unpotted
    No. 2 A unpotted B potted
    No. 3 A potted B unpotted
    No. 4 A potted B unpotted

  • @chocolatecookie8571
    @chocolatecookie8571 Před rokem +1

    How can I unpot my humbuckers? 😅

    • @michaelray5023
      @michaelray5023 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Leave it in the baking sun. I live in Phoenix AZ. I bought a pair of Duncan Slash pickups and left them in the car for half a day. Most of the wax came off, but it sounded very cool when I installed them anyway lol.

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 Před 2 měsíci

      Warm them to 141° C. let the wax drain out. careful though, you will never be able to play loud again🤣so you are missin g the sound of VOX, Marshall, HiWatt etc........czcams.com/users/sgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f923.png

  • @murrayguitarpickups9545
    @murrayguitarpickups9545 Před rokem +1

    No 1 A potted, B unpotted
    No 2 A unpotted, B potted
    No 3 A unpotted B potted
    No 4 A potted B unpotted

  • @Boromedic
    @Boromedic Před rokem

    This is a toughie! However very interesting, not a lot of difference at all really, here's my uneducated guesses!
    Example 1 B I think is potted
    Example 2 A I think is potted
    Example 3 B potted
    Example 4 B potted
    God knows 😂

  • @user-ci4tt7wt1d
    @user-ci4tt7wt1d Před 7 měsíci

    Unwaxed is way better

  • @robertodinuzzo5911
    @robertodinuzzo5911 Před rokem

    The difference in sound, especially in bands, is non-existent, it is a sophistication that cannot determine a choice of potted or unpotted pickup ... and come on !!!!!!

  • @-Dominique
    @-Dominique Před 24 dny

    You drowned the sound