The saying goes, "In war, the truth is written by the victors." From a long time, this statement was very, very true. In our modern age of information it's good to see other sides of the 'truth' come forth, truth that we may not have otherwise known! Thanks for being a voice of truth Jiles. Cheers!
My former father-in-law was German and was captured in France while fighting for the German army. He was sent to Colorado Springs as a POW. The farmer he was sent to work for was incredibly kind to the young POWs, according to my father-in-law. He got tears in his eyes when expressing his gratitude for the excellent treatment from the farmer. He said they were fed extremely well, given clean beds, etc and after dinner the farmer and his wife taught those interested to speak English. I’m so sorry to hear about this incident. It’s always been a source of pride that we treated POWs so well, as one should but so few countries do.
I've been a student (formal or otherwise) of history for most of my 50+ years, and if there's one thing I've learned, it's that far too many humans (particularly those in positions of power) would rather repeat history than learn from it. And so the rest of us are dragged along for the ride.
Hi. Indeed! And they also to shape and re-form what “history” they allow us to access in government / public schools. And now we see history being erased and re-written. SMH. What a time to be alive. Crazy days.
...almost cut in half from all the bullets??? The only vivid picture worse than the man's retelling of the scene from when he was 6 years old. Horrible tragedy, thank you for sharing Jiles ❤
Hello, Jiles-with-a-J! Thank you so much for this video, and- for this channel! Love this channel! I acknowledge the hatred so many had for the Nazis, but if the army found him to be unstable why in the world was he allowed to continue to be a part of our armed forces? I guess there was a lot happening so he sort of slipped through the cracks?
Have you done a video about the internment camps that housed Japanese Americans who were removed from their homes and made to live there until the end of the war? If not, please do so. I really enjoy your takes on history.
@@wesss9353 But you had your FREEDUMB didn't you? Being allowed to not give a shit about your fellow humans and do exactly nothing to mitigate the spread of a virus that has taken over 1 MILLION Americans, is not exactly freedom for those you and others, who share your lack of respect for others, got sick.
I could list a dozen things done horribly wrong that led up to this horrible tragedy, but the one my thoughts stay on is how that embarrassment to a U.S. Army uniform wasn't executed by firing squad--which he was eligible for under the UCMJ. The money spent on housing his sorry ass in luxury should've been reallocated to the survivors and victims' families. Caused by a spinal injection, my big toe; he was the very same bad seed he hated and wanted to eliminate.
Jiles-with-a-J you are a marvel! Your research and presentation are impeccable and you don't hold back on sharing even the blea kest events in your country's history. Keep up the good work on this site and "Monsters"!
There was a German POW camp just a few miles outside the city in Central New York State where I grew up, as a kid the area was always referred to as Montazuma Swamp but It is now referred to as a wild life preserve.
@@AnnieBoBannie421The marsh (the region is rich in different kinds of wetlands, including bogs, swamps, marshes, and fens, so it makes sense that people who aren't wetlands-nerds called it any of those, but the water level doesn't reach the treeline 🤓) is part of Montezuma National Wildlife Preserve. Other parts of it were developed too, or used for raw materials, so it's an interesting site!
This was an awesome video. Love these throwbacks. The Mormon massacre was awesome too. Would love to hear more early frontier/Oregon trail type stories!
I believe the very least they could do was make a museum there. It should be much nicer in point of fact ,and honor the men who died there. Men who were just serving their country, just like our men were. Regular folks don't make up a war, Powerful leaders, capture the minds of people for their own ends. Something that is far too easily done, especially if the people are young, and without opportunities in their own country. Several years ago, I went to Okinawa. We had the absolute privilege of being guided by a lady who was in her mid 80's. She had been just a baby when Okinawa was stormed, and was rescued by soldiers, while hiding in the family crypt with some of her siblings. Most of the adults had committed suicide, having been told, that to be prisoners was worse than death, and everyone would be raped and enslaved, The Japanese government actually went to the lengths of providing poison rice balls, in an effort to get everyone on Ryukyu ( Okinawa before Japanese occupation) to commit suicide. After the war there were all these parentless children, and she said that it truly effected people of that generation, in a lot of negative ways. She led us on a guided tour to the War Museum which honors both the countries equally. honoring all the fallen and wounded . It was a gut wrenching tour, I cried my eyes out. We got to go into the tunnels at "Hacksaw Ridge". and you could see the bullet marks in the walls of the caves/tunnels. The feeling in there was over whelming, I couldn't breath and had thoughts of the hopeless soldiers laying there in piles , committing suicide and killing other soldiers, before the Americans could get to them. It impacted me greatly, and I haven't really done it justice at all. Our guide was an amazing woman. She could out hike, out talk and was so articulate and intelligent. Honestly she was healthier than my 40 year old friend, and far healthier than I! That was the hardest part of my trip. I am ashamed to say I didn't want to do it. But I am so thankful I did,. I think I was just afraid of what I would see, as I should have been. I cant talk about it now without crying. I was very thankful that our tour was just the 3of us. We had no trouble understanding her at all. She endeared herself to both of us. She did a fantastic job explaining the Japanese mindset at the time of the war. That the people were brainwashed, and believed that the Emperor of the country (who truly was no leader, he was a puppet -figure head, and the real leaders were military leaders) was a God. That experience made me see war differently, it was related to me how absolutely brain washed a nation can be. I would love to thank her and tell her how her tour changed my life. She was quite passionate and spoke non stop, all of it information, Even now we can see it in the war that just broke out, sob. ~~ I apologize for the ramble Jiles . I guess I am boosting your comments lol!
It really is, the people are already killing each other but they must do it in a "humane" manner. That's really stupid. There shouldn't be wars at all.
The US also hosted all Latin American men with German last names. More than 3000 were stripped of their belongings and shipped up from as far as Peru. This happened even though they were born in Latin America
I mean, on the one hand that guy was obviously unstable and should have been taken out of the military a long time ago. But on the other hand no one is really going to cry over every POW he killed that night. Also, Jesus Christ, that dude had really poor aim.
Fun fact, although President Wilson signed the Geneva Convention but the Senate refused to ratify his signature. So the US was only covered by the GenevaConvention until Wilson left office and to this day, they senate still hasn’t ratified the signature. And the US is big in breaking the convention. Bringing shotguns to war is a no no
I love how matters of someones sanity, or lack of it was decided by some "respected military captain", and then by "panel of military officials"... And why he wasn't fit for active duty should be pretty obvious for everyone... I mean, a belt, 250 pieces of ammo long, and he killed 9 people, which were taken by suprise? That's justr not up to par!
The mark in Oregon isn’t complete. There was another camp for POWs at Camp Adair. My great aunt and uncle worked for the camp. My great aunt worked in the diner and my great uncle took out work parties. My mothers cousins were teenagers. My one cousin was talking about a time she and some of her friends were going out to the camp to get some money from her mother. There was a young blond man walking alongside of the road so they stopped and asked him if he wanted a ride and he said sure. They did some young people chit chat and the girls asked him if he was going to go to the USO dance that night. And he said that he didn’t think POWS were invited. He was from the Italian Army, she said his English was very good. He’d gotten a job in the nearby town of Corvallis as a bookkeeper at a local store
Thanks Jiles for another interesting piece of history. Just incidentally don’t be too tough on the Germans. Not all German people or soldiers were ‘Nazis’. Nazi was only the political ruling party at the time. Putting the concentration camps aside, a lot of European POW’s captured by Germany were also sent to POW camps in Germany and were well treated. My great uncle was one. I also know my friends Dutch family who had their home sequestered during WW2 by SS officers due to strategic location and they were very well looked after for years only to have the American soldiers destroy everything in one day after liberation. The Russians and the Japanese were also cruel to POW’s
@@SomewhereSinister That's easy when you haven't lost family at Bergen-Belsen. It's been a lifelong struggle to truly forgive. TBH I probably would've done the same thing. Thanks for listening Jiles. You're a good person.
No. Your loss is not an excuse to act like the very people you’re condemning. Your loss is sad and your anger is absolutely understandable, but the minute you begin mowing down POWs with a machine gun, you shit on the memory of the people you lost. We went to Europe to stop people from doing horrible things to other human beings, because we knew it was wrong. You doing the same to Nazis makes you equally as wrong and just because someone didn’t loose family, doesn’t take away their right to tell you so, nor it does it make them wrong.
If you're talking about the concentration camps, they definitely weren't. Just a tiny bit of knowledge about WWII and you would know that those camps weren't liberated until the last days of the war. I really don't think you were asking in good faith though.
@@randibgood I thought I remembered that, but my memory is horrible. In high school we were shown old black and white footage taken taken by soldiers who entered the camps, French I think. That has never left me. I think they should still be showing that in school. If it's traumatizing, well that's the point. I was pretty sure they would have brought German soldiers from those camps to other, more secure places so they could be tried for war crimes or whatever.
@@randibgood Pardoning of Blackwater mercenaries responsible for the 2007 Nisour Square massacre in Baghdad, and the pardoning of Naby SEALs Edward Gallagher who stabbed a 17-year old ISIS prisoner who was recovering in a hospital back in 2019
What the soldier did was horrible, and he deserved what punishment he got, except for one thing......THEY WERE NAZI'S!! Germany killed so many, like the Americans defending during the Battle of the Bulge. Nazi's summarily executed over 60 American prisoners, and most of the executioners were later disciplined for it. Good story Giles,as always. War is hell in so many ways, I pray we won't have another one, but that prayer won't happen soon enough. Just my opinion and thank you in advance
Who said those soldiers were Nazis. What about the Americans dropping nukes on the Japanese towns killing innocent people? Don’t be so righteous and bigoted
I’m struggling with this, because I know those same german soldiers would not have hesitated to torture Americans or Jews if the other were imprisoned.
How wrong you are. Not all German soldiers were Nazis nor did all of them treat people badly. My NZ great uncle was captured ww2 in Europe and held in a German POW camp. He was very well treated by the Germans along with his fellow soldiers. Sure 6m Jews were killed but what about the 20m Russians? What about how the Japanese treated the Americans, Australians and New Zealanders in the Asian interment camps-worse than the concentration camps in Europe. My friends Dutch family whose home was sequestered by Nazis were well treated only to have the US soldiers destroy everything in a day after liberation. There is good and bad in every nation
@@SomewhereSinister Hi Jiles see my comment here. With the greatest respect, you will need to be every open minded to historical understanding particularly ww2 if you are about to live in The Netherlands. It isn’t exactly right how the American schools or culture would have you believe
@sarahfranssen Well then it's good that I rarely attended classes when I was a kid and never graduated from public school. I went on to get my GED and I'm spent my life educating myself independently with information I feel is much more accurate. To clarify. I am very well aware that not all German soldiers were Nazis or wanted to treat people badly. My goal in my comment was to respond to the overall point of the initial comment. Even if the POW camp was populated by detainees who were terrible people, we don't mow them down in their sleep with a machine gun because we're supposed to be better than that. We have no right to go to war with any country and demand they stop atrocities against human beings if we are going to turn around and commit those same atrocities. The funny thing is, I was just telling my wife the other day how I've never felt like I should have been an American and should have been European. My attitude does not match the standard American attitude at all. If you haven't yet, you can check out my personal vlog which gives people a much clearer picture of who I really am. www.youtube.com/@jileswithaj Thanks for watching!
Thanks Jiles for your reply. Yes I know you are well educated and informed. I wouldn’t be a big fan of your channels otherwise. I believe my reaction was more from the initial 1st comment. It’s amazing the amount of people who are not historically enlightened. Not that it’s always their fault. My generation were bought up believing all Germans were Nazis and the baddies, along with Cowboys and Indians (the baddies) or slavery started with Africans being sent to the USA, etc. It seems these days history is whatever bias story is told in the (American) movies or TV. I’m pleased to hear you don’t necessarily subscribe to all American standard way of thinking. Keep up the good work.
I’m pretty sure I said that the American POW camps were better than German POW camps. The reason is because we’re supposed to be better than them. Otherwise, we had no right fight them.
tyvm for another interesting history tale, though classifying all Wehrmacht military as ''nazis'' is not factual. the percentages of germany's military and civilian nazi membership is quite debated. 🦬🇨🇦🤟
The saying goes, "In war, the truth is written by the victors." From a long time, this statement was very, very true. In our modern age of information it's good to see other sides of the 'truth' come forth, truth that we may not have otherwise known! Thanks for being a voice of truth Jiles. Cheers!
My former father-in-law was German and was captured in France while fighting for the German army. He was sent to Colorado Springs as a POW.
The farmer he was sent to work for was incredibly kind to the young POWs, according to my father-in-law. He got tears in his eyes when expressing his gratitude for the excellent treatment from the farmer. He said they were fed extremely well, given clean beds, etc and after dinner the farmer and his wife taught those interested to speak English.
I’m so sorry to hear about this incident. It’s always been a source of pride that we treated POWs so well, as one should but so few countries do.
6:30 am and a nasty case of insomnia...oh yay! Somewhere Sinister to the rescue!!
It is Crazy how a handful of men in power can cost so many casualties .
Humans don’t seem to want to learn from the past. 💔
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There was a great amount of the inmates decided to stay here in America 🇺🇸 instead of returning back to Germany! 🇩🇪
3:22am right now, Northeastern USA. Perfect time for a new video from Somewhere Sinister. Giles has a wonderful voice to fall asleep listening to. 💙🛌💤
Yes, soothing voice to sleep to but the content keeps me up 🤣
2:50 am Wisconsin!
10:19 AM Here in Edinburgh, Scotland ❤ Video on, Anxiety Gone 🎉
Yes, he does! I have to listen to old ones to fall asleep. If it's a new one I'm too interested in it to fall asleep.
Mornin’ y’all! South Louisiana here!
‘Send up more amo, I’m not done yet’
Sure, hang on. Be right there! Did you need anything else? Cigarettes? Whiskey?
There were 2 other guard towers he could have been taken out from. That's the only "more ammo" he needed.
I still never get tired of this opening! Thanks for bringing attention to another little known period of our complicated history!
real history has little to do with, ''our''. 😉
I've been a student (formal or otherwise) of history for most of my 50+ years, and if there's one thing I've learned, it's that far too many humans (particularly those in positions of power) would rather repeat history than learn from it. And so the rest of us are dragged along for the ride.
There's always a common group instigating these wars, specifically since 1914. History repeats itself because no one is told the truth about it
False flag attacks are real
The only thing man learns from history is that we learn nothing from history
Hi. Indeed! And they also to shape and re-form what “history” they allow us to access in government / public schools. And now we see history being erased and re-written. SMH. What a time to be alive. Crazy days.
We are currently in the midst of that now
Gosh... never a truer word
By the looks of todays world....?
We appear to have learned... nothing?!.....❤
Jiles, the format and flow of your work is beautiful. You're a wordsmith.
...almost cut in half from all the bullets??? The only vivid picture worse than the man's retelling of the scene from when he was 6 years old. Horrible tragedy, thank you for sharing Jiles ❤
Thank You Jiles for the upload. Hope everyone is having a wonderful Wednesday.❤
You to pal, 💜
I haven't gone to sleep, it's still Tuesday!
@@wesss9353It's Wednesday evening in Oz, I've almost lapped you 😉🇦🇺
So glad to see this channel reach 100k so quickly! Well deserved, Jiles. Love your work.
Good morning to all. (Or whatever time of day where you are.). Let's get Sinister!😊
Good morning to you as well, and hoping you have a wonderful day
Mornin’ y’all! Here’s hoping y’all have a good one! Much love from south Louisiana
In what might be an episode of "This is Monsters", Pvt. Bertucci's dishonorable thing as a monster was just that.
This is the worst case outcome of the lunatics running the asylum.
Twitter has entered the chat
A timely topic. thank you Jiles
Sad…. But not surprising
Thank you for sharing. I never knew of these tragic events.
Excellent as always! Sadly I had never heard this piece of history, thank you for sharing!
Thank you Jiles. Can't believe I never heard of this. One man platoon. Prety damn scary💔
Grats on 100 K, Jiles. I had not heard this story before. How perfectly awful. RIP men.
I hadn't heard of this before. Thanks Jiles, this is history worth remembering
Thanks for another great video on an obscure event!
Thank you for covering this. We need to remember.
Hello, Jiles-with-a-J! Thank you so much for this video, and- for this channel! Love this channel! I acknowledge the hatred so many had for the Nazis, but if the army found him to be unstable why in the world was he allowed to continue to be a part of our armed forces? I guess there was a lot happening so he sort of slipped through the cracks?
I’m sure the Army at the time was using anyone who could stand on two feet and figure out which end of the gun to point.
Makes sense. @@MightyMezzo
Jiles, would you please cover Camp Andersonville from the American Civil war?
Ayooo let's gooo!!!!
I am genuinely shocked that the casualties were that low with 250+ shots. This was absolutely disgusting
As an avid consumer of history, war is human and humans have always worshiped war.
Loved it
Jiles you never disappoint❣️
I’ve grown up and lived in Utah most of my life and I’ve never heard of this. Thanks for the informative video.
Have you done a video about the internment camps that housed Japanese Americans who were removed from their homes and made to live there until the end of the war? If not, please do so. I really enjoy your takes on history.
Sure have: Gila River Relocation Center
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Thanks for watching!
Holy moly I spent quite a few years of my childhood at my grandparents farm in Salina Utah. I remember it wasn't on the map back then. Lol
Even Americans had concentration camps and did atrocious things. I think we should all put it behind us...
Australia had concentration camps 2020-2022...
We need to remember these atrocities in a vain attempt to stop them happening again, shocking though it is to hear about them.
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But you had your FREEDUMB didn't you? Being allowed to not give a shit about your fellow humans and do exactly nothing to mitigate the spread of a virus that has taken over 1 MILLION Americans, is not exactly freedom for those you and others, who share your lack of respect for others, got sick.
I could list a dozen things done horribly wrong that led up to this horrible tragedy, but the one my thoughts stay on is how that embarrassment to a U.S. Army uniform wasn't executed by firing squad--which he was eligible for under the UCMJ. The money spent on housing his sorry ass in luxury should've been reallocated to the survivors and victims' families. Caused by a spinal injection, my big toe; he was the very same bad seed he hated and wanted to eliminate.
Jiles-with-a-J you are a marvel! Your research and presentation are impeccable and you don't hold back on sharing even the blea kest events in your country's history. Keep up the good work on this site and "Monsters"!
Thank you for sharing another hidden piece of history. A timely piece with hamas murdering babies…
What an EVIL embarrassment by a cowardly monster….
There was a German POW camp just a few miles outside the city in Central New York State where I grew up, as a kid the area was always referred to as Montazuma Swamp but It is now referred to as a wild life preserve.
‘Referred to as a wildlife preserve’….. is it a wildlife preserve now?
@@AnnieBoBannie421The marsh (the region is rich in different kinds of wetlands, including bogs, swamps, marshes, and fens, so it makes sense that people who aren't wetlands-nerds called it any of those, but the water level doesn't reach the treeline 🤓) is part of Montezuma National Wildlife Preserve. Other parts of it were developed too, or used for raw materials, so it's an interesting site!
Have you ever covered the Lieyu massacre?
This was an awesome video. Love these throwbacks. The Mormon massacre was awesome too. Would love to hear more early frontier/Oregon trail type stories!
Thanks 👍
I keep thinking he's going to say. " This is monsters." 😂
Hard to forget the hatred and suffering that Nazis dealt out to so many
It’s important for us to remember the last century of mass shooters as well as the new ones.
When video on Ruby Ridge?
And if you could branch out just a little airplane crashes.
I believe the very least they could do was make a museum there. It should be much nicer in point of fact ,and honor the men who died there. Men who were just serving their country, just like our men were. Regular folks don't make up a war, Powerful leaders, capture the minds of people for their own ends. Something that is far too easily done, especially if the people are young, and without opportunities in their own country.
Several years ago, I went to Okinawa. We had the absolute privilege of being guided by a lady who was in her mid 80's. She had been just a baby when Okinawa was stormed, and was rescued by soldiers, while hiding in the family crypt with some of her siblings. Most of the adults had committed suicide, having been told, that to be prisoners was worse than death, and everyone would be raped and enslaved, The Japanese government actually went to the lengths of providing poison rice balls, in an effort to get everyone on Ryukyu ( Okinawa before Japanese occupation) to commit suicide. After the war there were all these parentless children, and she said that it truly effected people of that generation, in a lot of negative ways.
She led us on a guided tour to the War Museum which honors both the countries equally. honoring all the fallen and wounded . It was a gut wrenching tour, I cried my eyes out. We got to go into the tunnels at "Hacksaw Ridge". and you could see the bullet marks in the walls of the caves/tunnels. The feeling in there was over whelming, I couldn't breath and had thoughts of the hopeless soldiers laying there in piles , committing suicide and killing other soldiers, before the Americans could get to them.
It impacted me greatly, and I haven't really done it justice at all. Our guide was an amazing woman. She could out hike, out talk and was so articulate and intelligent. Honestly she was healthier than my 40 year old friend, and far healthier than I! That was the hardest part of my trip. I am ashamed to say I didn't want to do it. But I am so thankful I did,. I think I was just afraid of what I would see, as I should have been. I cant talk about it now without crying.
I was very thankful that our tour was just the 3of us. We had no trouble understanding her at all. She endeared herself to both of us. She did a fantastic job explaining the Japanese mindset at the time of the war. That the people were brainwashed, and believed that the Emperor of the country (who truly was no leader, he was a puppet -figure head, and the real leaders were military leaders) was a God.
That experience made me see war differently, it was related to me how absolutely brain washed a nation can be. I would love to thank her and tell her how her tour changed my life. She was quite passionate and spoke non stop, all of it information,
Even now we can see it in the war that just broke out, sob.
~~ I apologize for the ramble Jiles . I guess I am boosting your comments lol!
It really is, the people are already killing each other but they must do it in a "humane" manner. That's really stupid. There shouldn't be wars at all.
Necessary
ok there Clarence Bertucci
No, it's not. It makes sense.
Any form of battle must have rules
Clarence bertucci by day is a soldier.but by night he is someone else.he is something else.
The US also hosted all Latin American men with German last names. More than 3000 were stripped of their belongings and shipped up from as far as Peru. This happened even though they were born in Latin America
Damn, almost cut in half!
I mean, on the one hand that guy was obviously unstable and should have been taken out of the military a long time ago.
But on the other hand no one is really going to cry over every POW he killed that night.
Also, Jesus Christ, that dude had really poor aim.
Never heard this before 😮
Fun fact, although President Wilson signed the Geneva Convention but the Senate refused to ratify his signature. So the US was only covered by the GenevaConvention until Wilson left office and to this day, they senate still hasn’t ratified the signature. And the US is big in breaking the convention. Bringing shotguns to war is a no no
See ‘Other Losses’ by James Bacque. That’s the real horror story…..
I love how matters of someones sanity, or lack of it was decided by some "respected military captain", and then by "panel of military officials"...
And why he wasn't fit for active duty should be pretty obvious for everyone... I mean, a belt, 250 pieces of ammo long, and he killed 9 people, which were taken by suprise? That's justr not up to par!
Yay!!
The insane route was definitely the best choice diplomatically.
The mark in Oregon isn’t complete. There was another camp for POWs at Camp Adair. My great aunt and uncle worked for the camp. My great aunt worked in the diner and my great uncle took out work parties. My mothers cousins were teenagers. My one cousin was talking about a time she and some of her friends were going out to the camp to get some money from her mother. There was a young blond man walking alongside of the road so they stopped and asked him if he wanted a ride and he said sure. They did some young people chit chat and the girls asked him if he was going to go to the USO dance that night. And he said that he didn’t think POWS were invited. He was from the Italian Army, she said his English was very good. He’d gotten a job in the nearby town of Corvallis as a bookkeeper at a local store
Sadly no longer so shocking to hear of multiple shootings in the US.
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Hey SoSi 👋
Some German troops were sent to Alaska, work camp. I'm a descendant of one.
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Thanks Jiles for another interesting piece of history. Just incidentally don’t be too tough on the Germans. Not all German people or soldiers were ‘Nazis’. Nazi was only the political ruling party at the time. Putting the concentration camps aside, a lot of European POW’s captured by Germany were also sent to POW camps in Germany and were well treated. My great uncle was one. I also know my friends Dutch family who had their home sequestered during WW2 by SS officers due to strategic location and they were very well looked after for years only to have the American soldiers destroy everything in one day after liberation. The Russians and the Japanese were also cruel to POW’s
Right beside ya' harleedad
I wish I was dead sometimes
Woah did you pronounce Fuchs correctly??
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As a Jew I'm struggling with pegging this Pfc as evil or a freaking hero.
But we’re supposed to be better than them.
@@SomewhereSinister That's easy when you haven't lost family at Bergen-Belsen. It's been a lifelong struggle to truly forgive. TBH I probably would've done the same thing. Thanks for listening Jiles. You're a good person.
No. Your loss is not an excuse to act like the very people you’re condemning. Your loss is sad and your anger is absolutely understandable, but the minute you begin mowing down POWs with a machine gun, you shit on the memory of the people you lost. We went to Europe to stop people from doing horrible things to other human beings, because we knew it was wrong. You doing the same to Nazis makes you equally as wrong and just because someone didn’t loose family, doesn’t take away their right to tell you so, nor it does it make them wrong.
@@SomewhereSinister I agree. All I was sharing was that it's been a lifelong struggle for me.
I get your struggling, and you have every right to feel that way, but claiming you might call someone who gunned down POWs a hero is still wrong.
America had some great fleeting moments, however america was never the good guy. Propoganda will be the ruin of humanity.
#FreeBertucci
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I am assuming that these POWs were not ones who had been running the camps in Germany?
If you're talking about the concentration camps, they definitely weren't. Just a tiny bit of knowledge about WWII and you would know that those camps weren't liberated until the last days of the war.
I really don't think you were asking in good faith though.
@@randibgood I thought I remembered that, but my memory is horrible.
In high school we were shown old black and white footage taken taken by soldiers who entered the camps, French I think. That has never left me.
I think they should still be showing that in school. If it's traumatizing, well that's the point.
I was pretty sure they would have brought German soldiers from those camps to other, more secure places so they could be tried for war crimes or whatever.
I said in the video that these prisoners mainly came from North Africa.
@@SomewhereSinister That part didn't register with me sorry! 💜💜💜
@Mary_Beth_Reimer Oh, it's okay. I miss stuff all the time. I didn't mean to sound rude.
Hear me out..weren't the prisoners nazis? I'm not saying he should have done it..two wrongs don't make a right
Then what’s your point? Either we’re better than the Nazis or we aren’t.
Nowadays, the Americans pardon people like him if they did something similar!
Can you provide some examples?
Thanks.
@@randibgood Pardoning of Blackwater mercenaries responsible for the 2007 Nisour Square massacre in Baghdad, and the pardoning of Naby SEALs Edward Gallagher who stabbed a 17-year old ISIS prisoner who was recovering in a hospital back in 2019
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So by "nowadays" you actually mean "the previous pretend administration of the ex LIAR-IN-CHIEF"?
So.... Not really "nowadays".
Wish I could of heard those germans whining
Yeah those Nazis were known for their compassion and mercy right??? Lmfao
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What the soldier did was horrible, and he deserved what punishment he got, except for one thing......THEY WERE NAZI'S!! Germany killed so many, like the Americans defending during the Battle of the Bulge. Nazi's summarily executed over 60 American prisoners, and most of the executioners were later disciplined for it. Good story Giles,as always. War is hell in so many ways, I pray we won't have another one, but that prayer won't happen soon enough. Just my opinion and thank you in advance
Who said those soldiers were Nazis. What about the Americans dropping nukes on the Japanese towns killing innocent people? Don’t be so righteous and bigoted
I’m struggling with this, because I know those same german soldiers would not have hesitated to torture Americans or Jews if the other were imprisoned.
But we’re supposed to be better than them. If we just commit horrible acts to them, we’re just as bad.
How wrong you are. Not all German soldiers were Nazis nor did all of them treat people badly. My NZ great uncle was captured ww2 in Europe and held in a German POW camp. He was very well treated by the Germans along with his fellow soldiers. Sure 6m Jews were killed but what about the 20m Russians? What about how the Japanese treated the Americans, Australians and New Zealanders in the Asian interment camps-worse than the concentration camps in Europe. My friends Dutch family whose home was sequestered by Nazis were well treated only to have the US soldiers destroy everything in a day after liberation. There is good and bad in every nation
@@SomewhereSinister Hi Jiles see my comment here. With the greatest respect, you will need to be every open minded to historical understanding particularly ww2 if you are about to live in The Netherlands. It isn’t exactly right how the American schools or culture would have you believe
@sarahfranssen Well then it's good that I rarely attended classes when I was a kid and never graduated from public school. I went on to get my GED and I'm spent my life educating myself independently with information I feel is much more accurate.
To clarify. I am very well aware that not all German soldiers were Nazis or wanted to treat people badly. My goal in my comment was to respond to the overall point of the initial comment. Even if the POW camp was populated by detainees who were terrible people, we don't mow them down in their sleep with a machine gun because we're supposed to be better than that. We have no right to go to war with any country and demand they stop atrocities against human beings if we are going to turn around and commit those same atrocities.
The funny thing is, I was just telling my wife the other day how I've never felt like I should have been an American and should have been European. My attitude does not match the standard American attitude at all. If you haven't yet, you can check out my personal vlog which gives people a much clearer picture of who I really am.
www.youtube.com/@jileswithaj
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Thanks Jiles for your reply. Yes I know you are well educated and informed. I wouldn’t be a big fan of your channels otherwise. I believe my reaction was more from the initial 1st comment. It’s amazing the amount of people who are not historically enlightened. Not that it’s always their fault. My generation were bought up believing all Germans were Nazis and the baddies, along with Cowboys and Indians (the baddies) or slavery started with Africans being sent to the USA, etc. It seems these days history is whatever bias story is told in the (American) movies or TV. I’m pleased to hear you don’t necessarily subscribe to all American standard way of thinking. Keep up the good work.
Um, too much honor for prisoners.
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You have got to be kidding. Or you're just not very informed on the war crimes committed.
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Has nothing to do with the OP's comment, which is still factually incorrect. Guerilla warfare or not.
This is kind of funny, in a perverse, awful way.😂
Wow; it's really not funny in any way. Perverse, yes.
There's always a new video when I get up for work 😀❤
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Good thing nothing horrible happened to American soldiers over in German prison camps
I’m pretty sure I said that the American POW camps were better than German POW camps. The reason is because we’re supposed to be better than them. Otherwise, we had no right fight them.
After all that, He only got 8 Nazis?!!
I know, right!? Such horrible aim.
tyvm for another interesting history tale, though classifying all Wehrmacht military as ''nazis'' is not factual. the percentages of germany's military and civilian nazi membership is quite debated.
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