Our First Electric Fence
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2020
- The first electric fence goes up on the ranch to help protect the market gardens from deer.
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Mike, move the electrical charger to the gate. This way Erin can't shut it off without having to walk down to the corner as she walks in and out of the garden.
Mike. You will have to educate the deer to the fence. Google the right wire heights for deer. You might have to erect a second electric fence next to your woven wire fence. The deer has to be standing at the fence and put his nose to the hot wire. It will not take many ‘shocks’ before the deer will stay away. Put a camera on the garden to see if the deer touchs the top of woven wire before jumping in. If they do then put a hot wire at the same level as top woven wire strand.
I remember my first electric fence I did when I was still a teenager. It was energizing to say the least. So I've got the popcorn and waiting for the show to start.
😂 😂 😂 😂. That’s hilarious. I can’t believe you had the tester and went ahead and touched the fence for our amusement. . What a wonderful host . 👍
I’m sorry Mike, but I did laugh out loud when you got that shock! 😂
me too...lol
I about pissed myself, LMAO
It never gets old, as long as it is not me.
My brother used to walk right up to a fence and grab it, make whatever repair he needed to, all while getting the crap knocked out of him with every pulse. I asked him once why?? He said his natural laziness allowed him to suffer the pain, to avoid walking to the energizer to turn it off then walking back to turn it back on, 😂
Another humorous story happened one day at the local feed store. They had just gotten in some “new-fangled” solar fence chargers. So my neighbor and me happened to be there buying feed. My neighbor is looking at the chargers and commented he was skeptical at the charge on a solar powered energizer. The store clerk walks over and tries to answer his questions and concerns. At the same moment the clerk turns on the charger (with the intent to show with a meter the output), my neighbor reaches out and grabs the wing-nuts on the bottom that you hook the fence AND grounding wire. Needless to say, after his four foot jump STRAIGHT up from a flat footed stance accompanied by a howl I would liken to an adolescent Sasquatch the neighbor was a true believer in the output, 😂 Who says white guys can’t jump??
Thanks for keeping it real. And the way you support local businesses over Big Box Retail.
As a kid, I once wrecked my bike and got it tangled up in an electric fence. That was fun. Took about 30 minutes of pulling an expletives to rescue it.
My worst shock was hitting my metal glasses frame on a hot wire. Talk about seeing stars. Happened 25 years ago but still remember it well.
I have been using electric fencing for about 30 years. Electric fence works when the shockee is standing on the ground. The current goes from the fencing through the shockee and to ground. Unless you add a grounded wire in the middle of your hot wires a leaping deer might not get shocked. Learn it and you will LOVE it. Place the ground rod near where Erin is using water. Keeping your ground rod deep in the ground and moist or even adding additional ground rods is what make the shock strong. Another suggestion ... get some little step in posts and run a second fence - one single wire at three feet tall and about 3 feet out around from the garden fence. Fasten some aluminum foil "cups" that you make on the wire in several spots. Put some yummy treat - like peanut butter - on the cup. You are trying to entice the deer to smell and/ or taste the electrified cup. A zap on the nose... you remember for a LONG time. Electric fencing is a mental deterrent. It doesn't need to be strong or on big sturdy posts. A single wire will keep a bull or pig or goat or horse just where he needs to stay.
Best comment I have seen so far.
We have been using electric fencing and electric mesh netting for YEARS. We have them hooked up to cattle chargers. IF they can stop a bull elk in its tracks and make it turn on its heel and run away like the hounds of hell are after it: then we are doin' good. We use it to protect our gardens, orchards, 500 hens/roos, turkeys, ducks, and more. I HIGHLY recommend Premier One poultry fencing, we custom order it so its twice as tall and with smaller mesh. We run 8 fences in a line connected and we successfully used it to pen up my neighbors cows who decided that the grass was greener on every other side than their own... while my neighbor was out of town. It only took a few zaps before even the 'gate crusher' steer (who I HATED btw) was keeping his distance.
Chargers work on a pulse. I'm not sure about small animals but horses, for instance, can hear the pulse and will respect the fence as long as they hear it. I agree that ribbons help with deer and we have found that the color of the wire helps as well.
If you ever decide to try it for cattle on permanent fence I’d recommend an AC charger vs solar and something with 10 joules minimum, preferably 16+ joules. We use the solar charger for temp fences dividing barbed wire pastures up for now until we can replace our barbed wire with electric permanent fences off of a charger at the barn.
Cog Hill Farm has flags on his garden fence if you want to take a look. been 50 yrs since i hit the electric fence at my grandmama's she had just put up to keep her dogs out of the road. I was chasing my little brother out the front door as he went out the back. Yep I got there first. He is 15 yrs younger and still laughs about it.
Thanks Mike you took one for the team 👍
If you're caught without your fence tester, a good way to see if the fence is working is to hold a blade of green grass between your fingers and drape it over the wire. You will fell a slight pulsing through your fingers, but no pain.
1970. I was a 10 year old kid. Visiting my uncle in Iowa. He showed me the new electric fence he installed. 12 volt battery and a power box with a flashing light and an audible CLICK CLICK CLICK when it pulsed a charge. My uncle told me to hold his hand and I would be fine.
THUMP THUMP THUMP. that’s when he let go. He didn’t feel a thing. I got to show my little brother how it worked. That was fun.
Science on the farm. Priceless. And memorable 50 years later.
It might be a good idea to tie some white or yellow strips of ribbon to the wire for visibility so the animals can see it. A deer might not see the wire and by the time the deer is already jumping the fence, they are just going to knock it down.
Take a piece of grass and while holding one end lay the other end on the fence, and slide it toward your finger slowly. If it’s on you’ll feel the “pop” on your finger, but very much subdued. How I was taught growing up to check if the fence is on.
Shew! Welcome to my world buddy...I have a "3 dimensional" electric fence around our garden and it works great....poly electric..but actually 2 runs of fencing that confuses the deer and they can't negotiate the darn thing...we have nearly 50 deer in our pasture every night!
Stoney Ridge Farmer , well as long as you harvest some in the fall, you are feeding them. At least it’s how I think about it. Otherwise I’d be pissed off all the time. They’ll eat most anything.
Sounds like a free freezer full of meat to me!
My stepbrother used to shoot em off his front porch when they got in his soybeans. He learned he had to warn his wife after the first shot scared her so bad. She damned near killed him.
Load up some rock salt !!
Put 3 strands of wire. Make top and bottom hot and the middle one hook to ground. Make sure when deer jump they will hit a ground and hot wire since they will be in the air (not on ground).
Mike, I test the electric fences as follows, I cut a blade of green grass 8 inches or more, I grab it from one end and rest it on the wire, that works as a "resistor". Either you feel a little "tickling" or the sound of the discharge
Run a ground wire between the 2 hot wires, run ground wire to t-post to ground system.
Put ribbons on wires so deer/elk/horses can see them.
T posts are a bad ground rod, put a ohm meter on your t post ground and see how many ohms are on it, then drive a actual ground rod in it. compare results - you'll be amazed
@@BronzeBowFarm ground wire doesn't have to be true ground just need to complete the curcuit. Like with cattle they touch both, and they are the connection to the circuit.
if youre running a ground wire around the middle, just connect it to the ground circuit of the charger. If a deer is discovering this new hot wire mid flight, i have a feeling youll have broken wire and a deer in the garden that refuses to leave .
It is crazy that this is your first electric fence experience. I will never not have one, worth every cent.
A friend got zapped by a elect fence once. He said it hurt really bad. Said it knocked him senseless and made him evacuate his bowls. Said he woke up after atleast 30 MINUTS laying in his poop.
My favorite fence charger is the zareba pro series 200 mile fencer with 15
Joules of output , it makes homebodies of the most adventurous gadabout steers
Hi its Sandra Kay Stebbins I just Love watching your Videos Wyoming is such a pretty place .My son wants to come there one of these days. We live in Texas now good luck to you and your family.
Oh how is Goliath and peanut is doing, nothing to my knowledge has been said since the bloating. They are so cute, especially peanut if I had a place to put him I would make him a pet.
Good video Mike, but a suggestion for future electric fencing if you do more, don't buy that wire that you had. You can just use some extra barbed or woven wire and you could save money that way. I run a 1 wire electric fence during the summer out at my pasture and for winter on milo stalks and all I use is smooth metal wire, wooden corner posts, and rebar fenceposts with screw-on insulators. If you have any questions or need any product suggestions in the future I'd be glad to help!
I planted 10,000 strawberry plants 3 years ago, lost all but 50 plants to deer, next year I put up a 8 foot electric fence with 6 runs of wire around the next strawberry planting, this year I had my 1st u pick, no deer getting in, and no raccoons getting in as the bottom strand is about 4 to 6 inches from the ground. Gallager fencing is a good choice.
also put some peanut butter on the strands and they'll smell it and have a little taste, the zap will then teach them that it is not a safe place to be.
Electric fencing definitely has its challenges and it place, I've used it to keep everything from squirrels out of a garden to keeping cattle sheep on grass, and bulls from cows in heat. Your project offers some challenges, but if I we're going to do it, I think I'd screw a 2x4 to each post at an angle flaring the 2x4 out at maybe a 30 or 45° angle to create a hybrid 3d fence. The other thing I'd recommend is in your soil, get a proper ground rod. Go as deep or diagonal as possible. You can also run a ground wire, where the deer are most likely to hit the hot and ground at the some time and tie the ground back into the ground input on the unit. Any questions feel free to ask.
I use a piece of old garden hose on the corners between the insulators.
On my electric fence I use “fence alert”. It starts blinking when fence is shorted out. Works great for my fences. I know right away when fence isn’t working which is nice cause I hate chasing animals that get out
Garden Looks great Mike
You are supposed to have someone hold your hand when you test for a hot wire. Try it the last one on the end gets the jolt.
I know you're supporting local, but $36 will get you 1320 ft of 9ss polywire from Kencove. $350 will get you a 110v 8 joule Taylor Cyclops charger made in Alabama, and that will lay you out - keeps bulls from heifers in heat with a single polywire. Pin locks are $8-10 for $25. Good step in posts are the big cost here. $100 will get you a fence tester that helps you find problems with the fence if there is a problem.
The other way to test a hot fence is a blade of grass - put it lightly on the hotwire and it will bounce off the hotwire and back on if it is on - you can feel the blade of grass hum in you fingers but it won't bite like putting your fingers on - grew up on a farm in New Zealand where Gallagher is from - get Erin a quick latch for that gate so she can just flick the gate with her foot to shut it as I bet her arms are full when she leaves the garden so the chain system you have is a pain to have for her
Pigs do great on eletric as long you train them. 1 wire nose height with hard fence behind so they have to go back as soon as they stay away put them where you want
Mike if u want to test the fence pick a long blade of grass and place it on the fence.. if it’s on it will tickle your finger
Joule is 1000 volts. Get you a roll of florescent tape like surveying uses and attach to the wire like flags hanging down. That motion will catch there eye. Cause that wire will be torn down in a day or two. HEY WAIT A MINUTE... there's nothing on the project list. ☺️
Ya those solar powered galiger are a huge upgrade, whe always have5 to 6 of those whit a battery. And now whit the solar powered whe don't have problems anymore.
Just so you know, if you take a green blade of grass you can hold it, touch the line with it to see if it's hot, without getting such a bad shock, should you forget your tester.
Do not forget to pay attention to the fenceline when standing in wet grass and holding a metal t post. Fence + t-post=bad day.😉😭
That's pretty good. I have a story for you. Whatever you do do not touch the hot wire with a machete even by accident. You might lose the machete forever
Yes you can use those on the corners you are not pulling tight like you would with high tensile wire., I would run them on the inside of your post. I would run multiple strands of that stuff and attach flagging tape to it as that will be a visible deterrent that might help keep them away. also might help to run one of those braided ropes as a ground wire in your multiple strand network.
By the time they would touch that single strand you out up they are in the air an in motion and it will just get torn down, run it like you would a 4 or 5 strand barbed wire above that woven wire with flag tape on each strand.
Ok...so I'm not an electrical engineer, just a nerdy farmer. A joule is a metric unit of energy (or work done over time). 1 joule is the equivalent of the energy produced by 1 watt of electricity in 1 second. Watts = amps x volts. So if your fence is indeed 7000 volts and the pulse is maybe about 1/1000 of a second (like a car spark plug) it will deliver about 4/100 of an amp in that time (7000volts x 0.044amps x 0.001seconds = 0.31joules).
Yep that’s what happens on our property- one deer 🦌 finds out about your plants and pretty soon they invite all their friends to join them.
An electrician taught me how to check electrical wiring to see if it was hot without a meter years ago.
Touch it with the back of your hand/fingers. Electricity causes the muscules in your fingers/hands to contract making your hand literally grip the wire. Electricity will also travel faster and farther touching it with your finger tips than with the back of your hand/fingers.
Disclaimer: I only do this when I absolutely have to know a wire is hot , and I don't have a tester on hand.
My dad taught me to test electric fences that way. Get a zap but not too bad.
Shocking!
On the bright side. Venison shouldn't be a shortage for your family. venison jerky sounds good. I have had homemade. Delicious.
Try kencove farm fence supply for most of your electric fence needs. I buy everything but my high tensile wire from them. The only reason I don't buy high tensile from them is freight.
Ground rods should be galvanized and DEEP in the ground (especially in drier soils) Take a multi meter and put it on your t post/ground rod and see how many ohms you get. If you're over 3 you are getting half or less the shock to the target. Its funny T posts are great enough grounders to take all the amperage out of a fence if an insulator fails and a hot wire hits it but they are generally terrible ground rods for providing earthing for a hot fence.
As a mobile electric fence tester, I rely on depends (dad diapers), I can do say bout 4 jobs before a change! Love all your videos, thanks Mike! Gary in Oregon
I run a mile section all hot wire. I have 3 main boxes I use for zapping. I have an electric plug in one I just love. You can hear it zapping from 20 yards away. My 2nd fencer I love too but it’s more $ it uses 2 car batteries.(I have 11 batteries and still gaining) 1 is plug only into the negative while the other battery is only plug into the positive. It’s like my plug in one. Then I have a 300 mile one. All you can hear zapping. I worked in a 17-18k acre ranch about 4K acres was hot wire. Honestly I love hot wire. I can build 3 miles all with in 2 hours. It’s so simple. You just have to check it daily, deer are the enemy of hot wire tho. Freaking if they don’t brake the clips. They lean your fence over. (I don’t use T post endless it’s the end of the fence. I’m only 21 leasing ground. Rn I only have 30 head 1 heard bull and a heifer bull. It’s all wheat pasture so i can run 200+ head. In 10-15 years when I reach that number I have 9 other quarter sections I’ll figure out what to do with. My adopted sister real grandpa has a lot of land no cows. I’ll figure that out when it comes time. (I use high voltage cause of a cow gets out. Hit by a car. That’s a law suit all day long) IT WONT KILL NO CALFS BUT IT WILL MAKE THEM STAY AWAY REALLY QUICK
U can also use a long piece of grass as a tester.
Put a low strand around your pig pen to keep those hogs inside their enclosure.
put the energizer unit inside the fence, not outside. the deer will knock it off the post denigerzing the wire and then get in. (and damage the unit)
Solar chargers also protect you when power goes out. That's important down here in the land of Florida Flicker and Flash.
Do understand that electric fences have to be grounded to "zap". So if the deer's hooves aren't still touching the ground when they hit the wire, they won't feel the electric shock. But if they get their horns tangled in the wire, well...
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I use electric fence surrounding most of my place, I use the gallegher s10, keeps the horses and goats away from my neighbours fields(hay, corn and soybean) and keeps the coyotes away from my goats. Laughed when you shocked yourself, I zap myself unintentionally on a regular basis, clearing weeds from fence line. Hope you have a great day.
Love this as I grew up dairy farming and electric was everywhere. As kids, when city cousins visited we would get them see who could pee on the fence for a surprise, that was a kick in the ...... well pants lets say. The stuff kids do on the farm for entertainment. Lol . Deer, raccoons and rabbits etc are an eternal garden problem. My grandfather tried a all sorts of crazy ways to keep em out!, only effective way was a 12 gauge. If deer are destroying your garden they are a pest so you should be able to do the same and maybe add a new line of stuff to the store freezer. Good luck and don’t forget to duck your head going thru the gate
o w l , THAT SPAM PHONE CALL WAS FROM , JOHN the DEER, yes the gate was open ?
Almost peed my pants too just laughing after you tested the fence.
The tester is a nice tool but it was way more fun to see you touch it! 😂😂😂
Those pigs need to be introduced to that electric fence!
The amperage isn't "flowing through there" the circuit is set to shut off above that rating. The amperage depends on how much your body draws while being shocked. At any rate, what matters is the power. Power equals volts times amps. Watts (that's power) is what kills you.
WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS TO DETOUR DEER! Get several trash bags full of human hair from a Barber Shop & Scattering the hair in between the rows. It works on baseball fields in West Texas where dear can destroy grass.
Thanks for my laugh today 😁😄😂
Mike you should know how high deer jump cuz don't you have 1 or 2 cows out in your pasture that can jump pretty high especially in the old corral system. Did your neighbor ever find his other bull ? I know you said he found one of them.
Try a little rock salt in the ole 12 ga. ,it might help !
Nice one mike
I know the shock hurt. My Daddy tried everything to keep deer out. He would play a radio at night. It worked fine till they got accustomed to it. Best of luck
I don’t see any Louisiana “Sportsman’s Paradise” plates! I’ll have to send one!
You are so funny today
Deer take one bite out of zucchini and move on? I take one bite out of zucchini and move on. 😂
it not all about money saved vs used. i think the mental heath of knowing your hard work is feeding the deer is worth fixing. a raccoon got my grapes this year. next year i will be spending what ever is needed to keep them away.
Mike: It's the amps that kill you ...
ElectroBOOM: *Tiggered*
With cattle, and in northern MN 6-7 joules is the only thing cattle will learn not to "test". No solar fencer can even come close to that.
I have a decent garden with beautiful vegetables, fruits, herbs and I love nature but when I see one single bite out of something there aren’t words to describe my anger I would make satan himself shutter. You are a great man and husband good job keepin the lady of the ranch happy
Oh Michael Michael Michael...you are one FUNNY MAN...!!! I laughed so hard!! The ‘oops’, the ‘I forgots’, the ‘$35 of new underwear, was hysterical!!! But the LOVE you have for your Wife Erin is AMAZING!! You NEVER let your family down or the Ranch!! And I was so happy to see I’m not the only one who gets those annoying ‘potential spam’ calls...!!! Thank you so much for taking us along today and sharing your “honey please...” list and also the great music - it was incredibly appropriate...!!! Terrific video...!!
Mike you need Keith’s t post driver!
My fencer says 6 joules. Can you check mine with your finger.😂👍
Have you ever text someone and they took it all wrong because they read it in a different tone then you meant it to read? Well a lot of the comments are coming across just like that. As you post comments think about the “tone” and wording of the comment or post. The negative comments and the comments that are going against the grain are hurtful and uncalled for. Mike and Erin put a lot and I mean a lot of time and effort into the videos. Sharing their lives with us is not something they have to do it’s something they want to do to allow us to enjoy life on a cattle ranch and life in north-east Wyoming. Please STOP the mean, negative, know-it-all comments. Do you understand that the negative comments are actually bullying and with all the negativity in life now a days it’s the last thing we all need. Mike and Erin have never said they know it all and their way is the right and only way to do it. But I’ll be honest with you all they do a damn good job of doing it their way. Just STOP the negative, know-it-all comments! (WWJD)
Electrical fence will only work if the deer is standing ...must be grounded ' they may sense the fence and stay away
If they touch the fence underneath they are grounded without standing on the ground.
@@schluterkristina7165 You explain just how they are grounded??? The only way they are grounded is if they are either touching the ground or the page wire fence witch must be grounded!!!
@@hankadamski7249 their hoofs makes them grounded
Oh my goodness! Its not funny Mike, but I did scream then laugh when you touched the wire. Also, I may have peed a little too. 😂😂😂 I really hope this keeps the deer out for Erin. 💜💜💜
Those chargers work amazing and my cows don't even challenge it at all!
😂😂 Thank you sir, I needed a good laugh. And, it also brought up a memory about touching a cattle prod...ouch.😂
I don’t know everything about electric fences but I have a tester I believe reads juls or something anyways I forget but 4.0 or below isn’t good in my opinion it’ll shock. 6.0 is my happy spot. 8.0 it’s a new fence give the grass 5 weeks with rain. I have that fence tester!!! It was my first one. I own 4 now 😂 1 in my tractor 1 in my hay truck 1 in my side by side then I have that one over at my family farm.
Thanks again Mike!
You can touch the wire with a blade of grass.
when i was a kid dad head a small farm i had to go pee i was around 7or8 went to pee on the fence post hit the electric fence i get lit up now at 55 i never forgot at the pain
Hey Mike, from a hot 95 New Jersey I know your shocked on how the fence works 😂. You have to do what you have to do to protect Erin's garden, it just a deterrent to keep the deer away. By the way that panel door is coming out of your check😉. So whats next for you and your underwear keep up the good work and see you in the next video🤔😲💥🤠😉
I thank you for bringing us along on your Journey on the ranch.
might have just been cause its early for me, but i laughed so hard when the little door flew off that water control and you looked back at the camera.
Garden looks so beautiful and the fence will help keep it protected. Great work Mike ! Stay Safe ,
Hey Mike, most fences that I've seen to keep deer out are normally 15 feet high. Yours might be high enough if you have smaller deer then what we have in Minnesota/Wisconsin area. Hope it works for y'all.
First you say it. Then you do it. Life is a learning process. You just learned how NOT to test an electric fence. Been there done that. LOL
By the way I tie 6" strips of white cloth from old sheets on both strands of wire to mark the fence. Your lower wire will train the animals because they will be able to reach it while standing on the ground. The flags also remind the people working around the garden not to touch the fence.
Thats a good way to charge your camera
circuit tester is a whole lot cheaper over in the electrical dept. at home store
Mike always has a handy dandy thingamajig lol like the tester and Erin always is an encyclopedia
Save those gardens, Erin!
Wow.... it is the initial cost. I think you will really like it. You can section off cows with it. We've got a neighbor who has 15 cows in the front yard and just has the tape wire so they can see it better. They don't go near it. Pigs work pretty good on it too.
Ugh, that feeling going right out of the top of your head and toes! Whaooo