1:35 Kickstand too short 3:07 Quickshifter is not smooth 4:02 Too heavy 5:34 Too new (lack of aftermarket support) 7:41 No aftermarket content to create 8:41 Bluetooth headset does not connect well
I love my F900R. Have about 1,000 miles. The quickshifter is getting smoother between first and second, sometimes I have to do a double take that I wasn't going from second to third (it has always been butter second and above). Still sometimes does not start immediately when cold, it takes two or three starts. The service manager at the dealership says this is a problem with a lot of newer 270-interval firing order twin cylinders and has the same thing with Triumphs they service that are designed this way and have the same characteristic. He didn't think it would resolve itself with more miles.
Except of the quick shifter, nothing else of what you said is a problem for me. Early next year I'm buying a bike. This bike is 100% on my radar to test-ride.
Lots of aftermarket mods available from SW Motech ( crash bars, engine skid plate) Givi (pannier racks and cases) Wunderlich ( handlebar risers, foot peg lowering kit ($$$) Puig(lots). I have all of these and it now feels custom. Love this bike! - Duane W.
Modding and accessories I'd love to see videos of stuff that comes available. Even thoughts about items you don't get to put your hands on would be of interest. If we're lucky, some of your viewers will have input and share findings that benefits others. On top of my mind, I'd be very interested in 3. party luggage systems - that uses the original attachment brackets.
Nice to hear an honest review of the bike, as with anything, there will always be downsides no matter how much you might love it. I agree with most your points. I’m a tall guy so the lean angle and weight combo isn’t an issue for me, though like you, I DO wonder at times how much more fun the bike could be if it were lighter. Definitely going to swap out the battery and exhaust down the road to save some weight. But ya, I agree that despite the weight and relatively lower power output compared to the competition, the bike certainly gets up and moves, particularly in those tight twisties where I think the broad torque band and fun handling really shines 😁 Totally in the same boat with ya in not finding too many options for aftermarket parts ugh! That’s gotta be one of the better things of owning a bike is being able to truly customize and making it your own.
Great video, all of your videos kinda convinced me on geting mine ! I just got it last week in black (2022 model), i came from a CF moto 300ss so honnestly i did not really notice that the quickshifter wasn't that smooth because i came from a cheaper bike with no quickshifter or no options such as the ones on a BMW so i only saw how faster and how nice it felt not using the clutch all thre time compared to my first bike and i've never tried other quickshifters so that might be the reason why. For the weight, like i said i come from a very light bike (333 pounds), and i was expecting heavier of course but i was scared of it being a little too heavy and after trying it i didn't think it was too much considering there is plenty of power and i really don't feel the weight riding it. I aslo think it's very confortable because my previous bike was a sportbike position. But honnestly, if these littles things don't bother you too much i highly recommend it. I was aslo looking for some mods and i think that since you posted your video there have been big improvements because i'm not having any problems finding pretty much everything i need for the bike, so for anyone looking to get one i highly recommend it. If you started on a smaller bike just like me and you wanna upgrade without going on something a lot more expensive or too sporty like a s1000r etc i think it's one of the best options for you. Really in love with mine so far.
Haven't had the cold start issue, but the clutch will lurch on it's 1st engagement of the day. Doesn't do it any other time. May try revving it up a bit in neutral with clutch lever pulled in before putting it in gear.
Mine came with a centre kick-stand and no quick shifter, so we are down to 3 now. Oh and wait it's two years later so there is some aftermarket stuff out there now.
Yup! I'm quite short and noticed rt away in the showroom that the kick stand angle meant some extra heft was required. (I'm curious if they use the same kickstand on the lowered suspension model and opted for a length that would work for both). At least you didn't complain about the seat! :) That thang is a bit of a brick after a couple hrs. Not a big deal since I only go out for a couple hrs typically. LUV the bike overall. Visiting the gas station too frequently.
Yes true, I could barely get it up off the stand because of the lean angle compared to my 500 pound Honda NC700 X dual clutch transmission. It’s much heavier than the Honda
I am used to Panigale seats.. sitting on a jagged edge pile of rock would be more comfortable LOL... so the F900R has nothing on them and that's why I don't complain about it.
If you guys just turned the bars full lock to the right you would need barely any strength to get it off the stand..... It changes the weight distribution 👍
Actually 475 Lbs with a full tank. We weighed it. A higher seat also available for more leg room, but at $ 500 bux, hell no. Made my own pegs and mounts to low peg 1 inch. More leg room and haven't touched pegs on the ground, even at 52 deg lean angle at Palomar Mtn.
I'm selling my f900r for some of the same reasons, too heavy, (I knew that when I bought it but I thought it would get lighter as I got better with it, but that didn't happen, it's still 465 lbs. and still a pain to get up off the kickstand. + Quick shifter is not smooth... that's it for complaints. Everything else about it is excellent, build quality, handling, stability, features like cruise control, heated grips and lots more + amazing TFT, 3 year warranty & 3 year roadside assistance - run out of gas, get a flat, lose your key, all included, no additional cost.
Omg... I was actually looking for other opinions on how heavy the bike feels when you pick it up and there you are. So you're saying it's because of how it sits? It's true that it is heavier than the competition, but it felt abnormally heavy in the showroom.
BMW weight is wet aka fully with liquids and fuel on the factory sheet NOT DRY. Honda CB650R for example is 202 wet but the factory sheet only says the dry weight.
I agree on the kickstand. I had to park backwards in a slightly leaning parking garage so the bike wouldn't fall over! I think mods will come in time. With Covid there are not a lot of these bikes available yet ,so the mod companies are probably behind a bit. Upside is - You don't see these bikes everyday which makes you stand out!
Whilst it’s a great bike on the back roads in the UK my main gripe is the handlebars vibrations at 60 mph and the horrendous wing mirror vibrations at 70 mph. I’ve tried bar end weights, grip puppies and have ordered gel gloves from USA. BMW says there’s nothing wrong with it but no one else seems to complain of vibrations. My seat has after 1700 miles nicely softened. Am awaiting panniers which have been delayed which is frustrating as I’m off to Scotland. I think the vibrations will mean I won’t keep this bike long
I have a 2022 and go 100 easily everytime I ride and have never experienced vibrations. Sounds like you just need to go around the bike and retighten everything
Dislikes Gotta let you know I disliked the track day and drag race videos cause they where pretty much just a "dash cam" recording. And non informative videos ain't much to my liking. Your input, thought you have a tendency to repeat yourself, is of value/entertainment and played a major part in myself purchasing the bike (your test ride).
I've demonstrated the F900R is good for the track and has fantastic off the line speed -- two things that can be used to assess if it worth buying or not. With all my other videos + drag + track, it is a complete road & track video series to help anyone out there who is on the fence about buying one.
@@PetroHead Sure, it was just a reaction to your comment about fanboys of other brands reacting with a dislike. I did too, despite beeing on the F900R team, cause I didn't like the format -it's lack of useful human input.
Watching your videos when you first got that bike confirmed me to get it right after. I have the same package as you and don’t get me wrong. I love it! Bike is very nimble!✊🏽 - Agree to disagree on it leaning too much and being heavy to get it straight to ride. 😅 - I do agree with the quick shifter being rough for the 1st and 2nd gear. Although, it is different when you full throttle switch from 1st to 2nd feels more smooth). - Yes! I have the Cardo and for a moment I thought it was the Cardo! After I noticed it’s my bike. I used to reset all Bluetooth connections and re connect. What I found on what could help is try turning on your bike first and let the screen load and then turn on the senna or Cardo. Make sure your bike is Actually running. Not just screen mode. See if that helps! - I do wish they come out with after market accessories. I do notice a lot more are out compared to being 3 months ago though. Conclusion, love the bike and no regrets! Stay safe and enjoy it!
Leans over too far? That's a pretty nit-picky thing to gripe about. Leaning makes it more stable and secure when parked. Standing up too vertical is unsettling, especially if the wheel isn't placed perfectly. We have a showroom of these and other bikes and it doesn't lean over any more extreme than the other Ducs, BMWs or Hondas, nor does it take any more effort (if you're used to riding motorcycles) to stand up than any other bike of this type. Now the Bluetooth issue? Spot on with that! It sucks ass and needs to be fixed. #1 complaint amongst BMW TFT bike owners. They've released updates..., still sucks. Works great..., When it works.
It’s cost cutting design work man.. they have a 30 inch seat with shorter suspension so to save money, they equipped the taller / normal size one with same kickstand. It’s an inconvenience and keeps reminding me of how heavy the bike is.
The suspension option isn't that much lower and the lower seat is irrelevant as you don't "sit" on the bike when you prop it from the stand. Mine isn't heavier to lift than any other bike and I work at a dealer and ride multiple makes and models (literally) for a living. It's not an issue worth griping about unless you are unfairly comparing it to another class/type of bike; CB300R and G310R for example. You're reaching. Now, your Bluetooth gripe? True. Mine don't work for shit half the time.
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1:35 Kickstand too short
3:07 Quickshifter is not smooth
4:02 Too heavy
5:34 Too new (lack of aftermarket support)
7:41 No aftermarket content to create
8:41 Bluetooth headset does not connect well
Thanks, you saved me 12 minutes.
I love you, thanks.
@@rleon8339 Not only that. Save me from the motion sickness
I love my F900R. Have about 1,000 miles. The quickshifter is getting smoother between first and second, sometimes I have to do a double take that I wasn't going from second to third (it has always been butter second and above). Still sometimes does not start immediately when cold, it takes two or three starts. The service manager at the dealership says this is a problem with a lot of newer 270-interval firing order twin cylinders and has the same thing with Triumphs they service that are designed this way and have the same characteristic. He didn't think it would resolve itself with more miles.
Enjoy my brother
That stand is a bonus. Ever had a bike with a sidestand that's too long? Not good, could fall at any time!!
Except of the quick shifter, nothing else of what you said is a problem for me. Early next year I'm buying a bike. This bike is 100% on my radar to test-ride.
Lots of aftermarket mods available from SW Motech ( crash bars, engine skid plate) Givi (pannier racks and cases) Wunderlich ( handlebar risers, foot peg lowering kit ($$$) Puig(lots). I have all of these and it now feels custom. Love this bike! - Duane W.
Modding and accessories
I'd love to see videos of stuff that comes available. Even thoughts about items you don't get to put your hands on would be of interest.
If we're lucky, some of your viewers will have input and share findings that benefits others.
On top of my mind, I'd be very interested in 3. party luggage systems - that uses the original attachment brackets.
Hi, the main drawback for me is the shock when using the quickshifter between 1st and 2nd .
couldn't agree more, for this reason, I only start using quick shifter from 3rd... Only really applicable on commute though.
Nice to hear an honest review of the bike, as with anything, there will always be downsides no matter how much you might love it. I agree with most your points. I’m a tall guy so the lean angle and weight combo isn’t an issue for me, though like you, I DO wonder at times how much more fun the bike could be if it were lighter. Definitely going to swap out the battery and exhaust down the road to save some weight. But ya, I agree that despite the weight and relatively lower power output compared to the competition, the bike certainly gets up and moves, particularly in those tight twisties where I think the broad torque band and fun handling really shines 😁 Totally in the same boat with ya in not finding too many options for aftermarket parts ugh! That’s gotta be one of the better things of owning a bike is being able to truly customize and making it your own.
Great video, all of your videos kinda convinced me on geting mine ! I just got it last week in black (2022 model), i came from a CF moto 300ss so honnestly i did not really notice that the quickshifter wasn't that smooth because i came from a cheaper bike with no quickshifter or no options such as the ones on a BMW so i only saw how faster and how nice it felt not using the clutch all thre time compared to my first bike and i've never tried other quickshifters so that might be the reason why.
For the weight, like i said i come from a very light bike (333 pounds), and i was expecting heavier of course but i was scared of it being a little too heavy and after trying it i didn't think it was too much considering there is plenty of power and i really don't feel the weight riding it.
I aslo think it's very confortable because my previous bike was a sportbike position. But honnestly, if these littles things don't bother you too much i highly recommend it.
I was aslo looking for some mods and i think that since you posted your video there have been big improvements because i'm not having any problems finding pretty much everything i need for the bike, so for anyone looking to get one i highly recommend it. If you started on a smaller bike just like me and you wanna upgrade without going on something a lot more expensive or too sporty like a s1000r etc i think it's one of the best options for you. Really in love with mine so far.
Ya and I’m sure none has been improved since I bought it. I got first gen when it was just released.
Haven't had the cold start issue, but the clutch will lurch on it's 1st engagement of the day.
Doesn't do it any other time. May try revving it up a bit in neutral with clutch lever pulled in before putting it in gear.
watch my drag race videos
@@PetroHeadChina engine is that true thank you
Mine came with a centre kick-stand and no quick shifter, so we are down to 3 now. Oh and wait it's two years later so there is some aftermarket stuff out there now.
Yup! I'm quite short and noticed rt away in the showroom that the kick stand angle meant some extra heft was required. (I'm curious if they use the same kickstand on the lowered suspension model and opted for a length that would work for both).
At least you didn't complain about the seat! :) That thang is a bit of a brick after a couple hrs. Not a big deal since I only go out for a couple hrs typically. LUV the bike overall. Visiting the gas station too frequently.
Yes true, I could barely get it up off the stand because of the lean angle compared to my 500 pound Honda NC700 X dual clutch transmission. It’s much heavier than the Honda
I am used to Panigale seats.. sitting on a jagged edge pile of rock would be more comfortable LOL... so the F900R has nothing on them and that's why I don't complain about it.
If you guys just turned the bars full lock to the right you would need barely any strength to get it off the stand..... It changes the weight distribution 👍
Actually 475 Lbs with a full tank. We weighed it.
A higher seat also available for more leg room, but at $ 500 bux, hell no.
Made my own pegs and mounts to low peg 1 inch.
More leg room and haven't touched pegs on the ground, even at 52 deg lean angle at Palomar Mtn.
LBS is a LOT OF BULL SHIT! OZ. What is that?
Bull Shit, again?
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LBS Lot of Bull Shit
I'm selling my f900r for some of the same reasons, too heavy, (I knew that when I bought it but I thought it would get lighter as I got better with it, but that didn't happen, it's still 465 lbs. and still a pain to get up off the kickstand. + Quick shifter is not smooth... that's it for complaints. Everything else about it is excellent, build quality, handling, stability, features like cruise control, heated grips and lots more + amazing TFT, 3 year warranty & 3 year roadside assistance - run out of gas, get a flat, lose your key, all included, no additional cost.
Omg... I was actually looking for other opinions on how heavy the bike feels when you pick it up and there you are.
So you're saying it's because of how it sits? It's true that it is heavier than the competition, but it felt abnormally heavy in the showroom.
BMW weight is wet aka fully with liquids and fuel on the factory sheet NOT DRY. Honda CB650R for example is 202 wet but the factory sheet only says the dry weight.
Do you agree or disagree? 🤷 Comment down below.
Agree :P Wait the vids not even out yet
Agree the kickstand is to short and the bluetooth works when it wants 2
I agree on the kickstand. I had to park backwards in a slightly leaning parking garage so the bike wouldn't fall over! I think mods will come in time. With Covid there are not a lot of these bikes available yet ,so the mod companies are probably behind a bit. Upside is - You don't see these bikes everyday which makes you stand out!
Nothing to hate...just an awesome bike
If you lost 20 pounds personally, then you would've known
LBS = Lot of Bull Shit czcams.com/video/k-cEH4Peekg/video.html
Whilst it’s a great bike on the back roads in the UK my main gripe is the handlebars vibrations at 60 mph and the horrendous wing mirror vibrations at 70 mph. I’ve tried bar end weights, grip puppies and have ordered gel gloves from USA. BMW says there’s nothing wrong with it but no one else seems to complain of vibrations. My seat has after 1700 miles nicely softened. Am awaiting panniers which have been delayed which is frustrating as I’m off to Scotland. I think the vibrations will mean I won’t keep this bike long
I don't get vibrations either.
I have a 2022 and go 100 easily everytime I ride and have never experienced vibrations. Sounds like you just need to go around the bike and retighten everything
I love my f900r but the biggest flaws to me are #1 gas tank is very small only get 180 miles on full tank #2 super heavy bike
180 miles on a full tank and you're complaining? Give up bikes and stick to cars man.
Orange County?
Dislikes
Gotta let you know I disliked the track day and drag race videos cause they where pretty much just a "dash cam" recording. And non informative videos ain't much to my liking.
Your input, thought you have a tendency to repeat yourself, is of value/entertainment and played a major part in myself purchasing the bike (your test ride).
I've demonstrated the F900R is good for the track and has fantastic off the line speed -- two things that can be used to assess if it worth buying or not. With all my other videos + drag + track, it is a complete road & track video series to help anyone out there who is on the fence about buying one.
@@PetroHead Sure, it was just a reaction to your comment about fanboys of other brands reacting with a dislike.
I did too, despite beeing on the F900R team, cause I didn't like the format -it's lack of useful human input.
@@TheRealAutodidact You sound a bit wound up bro.. LOL.. smile once in a while.. its a drag race video... 1.. 2.. 3.. FULL SEND!
@@PetroHead I watch a lot of RuPauls... 🙃
Watching your videos when you first got that bike confirmed me to get it right after. I have the same package as you and don’t get me wrong. I love it! Bike is very nimble!✊🏽
- Agree to disagree on it leaning too much and being heavy to get it straight to ride. 😅
- I do agree with the quick shifter being rough for the 1st and 2nd gear. Although, it is different when you full throttle switch from 1st to 2nd feels more smooth).
- Yes! I have the Cardo and for a moment I thought it was the Cardo! After I noticed it’s my bike. I used to reset all Bluetooth connections and re connect. What I found on what could help is try turning on your bike first and let the screen load and then turn on the senna or Cardo. Make sure your bike is Actually running. Not just screen mode. See if that helps!
- I do wish they come out with after market accessories. I do notice a lot more are out compared to being 3 months ago though.
Conclusion, love the bike and no regrets! Stay safe and enjoy it!
The fact that the engine comes from Chinese production is also not necessarily a plus
Just like MACAU
Red Communist 🇨🇳
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Leans over too far? That's a pretty nit-picky thing to gripe about. Leaning makes it more stable and secure when parked. Standing up too vertical is unsettling, especially if the wheel isn't placed perfectly. We have a showroom of these and other bikes and it doesn't lean over any more extreme than the other Ducs, BMWs or Hondas, nor does it take any more effort (if you're used to riding motorcycles) to stand up than any other bike of this type.
Now the Bluetooth issue? Spot on with that! It sucks ass and needs to be fixed. #1 complaint amongst BMW TFT bike owners. They've released updates..., still sucks. Works great..., When it works.
It’s cost cutting design work man.. they have a 30 inch seat with shorter suspension so to save money, they equipped the taller / normal size one with same kickstand. It’s an inconvenience and keeps reminding me of how heavy the bike is.
The suspension option isn't that much lower and the lower seat is irrelevant as you don't "sit" on the bike when you prop it from the stand.
Mine isn't heavier to lift than any other bike and I work at a dealer and ride multiple makes and models (literally) for a living. It's not an issue worth griping about unless you are unfairly comparing it to another class/type of bike; CB300R and G310R for example. You're reaching.
Now, your Bluetooth gripe? True. Mine don't work for shit half the time.
I also test bikes for a living (on YT) and as part of my test, It’s a things ‘I don’t like video’. To each there own. Cheers.
I think you should trade it in
Would should I get to replace it?
PetroHead possibly a Z 900
나도 저런곳에서 라이딩 하고싶다.. 경치 죽이네
Que pasa? 🤣
@@PetroHead translated: " I want to ride in that place too... It kills the scenery "
U Said u hate
Sorry to say . U shouldn't ride if it makes you so disappointed. So much talking about nothing really. Talking for talking.
You repeat yourself like crazy 😖
Do we really need the profanity?