Callas' contraltoish In mia man against young Franco Corelli
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- čas přidán 27. 04. 2016
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-From James Mccourt:
No, after a recital she was ready for her favorite word and activity, , "conversation," and in every city but especially in Barcelona and Madrid (a city she greatly preferred to her own. She was Spanish, not Catalan (and Catalan women don't seem to know who they are at all), And conversation for her meant listening as much as talking. She was an egalitarian and never a divav--although when her elder son brought home a puppy, they both decided to call her "Diva," The roles: The Countess Almaviva, Manon, Butterfly and Melisande. Since this is a page dedicated to Maria Calls, I will tell two things. Maria hated New York and the Metropolitan. She said of Victoria "She is the rose in the middle of all the weeds." Some time in the 70s, Victoria was giving a recital at the Salle Wagram in Paris, and an enormous basket of the most beautiful red roses was delivered backstage without a card attached. "But who sent these beautiful roses -- and so many!" "The sender wishes to remain anonymous, Madame." Then I cannot accept them," After a long pause, the man said," Well, Madame theyare from Madame Callas." Victoria said '"Well, I am going to call her up," and she left the dressing room and went into the executive offices and did so. Thus there developed a friendship, by telephone, for both women were shy (Yes, Maria in her later years was shy.) I asked her about this but she never said a word about it until Maria died. Victoria was the first person Bruna called that morning, and heard the telephone fall to the floor, and no sound but weeping on the other end. Years later, when Victoria was chosen to open the Maris Callas Atheneum in Athens, she held up her hand to stop the voluminous applause and said, "Please may we all give a standing ovation to Maria Callas?" It was that night I attempted to "get at" this friendship of theirs -- it was then that she said "Nobody could touch her," and all she would say to me, her eyes full of tears was "I was trying to get her to keep the heart heart Up."
Sincerely yours, James McCourt
-From BZBlaner:
I think Callas is the only singer who starts the ascending trills on middle-low (E4)
-From Leo Henry:
maria callas didn't exist! it's all a dream
-From Lohengrin O:
Callas sounding Heavier than Elena Nicolai and more Heroic than Birgit Nilsson - Hudba
the 2 most wonderful voices of the last century......
Also for future...
A vocal marriage made in heaven, never has there been a better pairing in Opera than Callas & Corelli on the same stage. Sublime
NORMA = CALLAS e CORELLI. una interpretazione da brividi. Irraggiungibili e unici!!!
Некорректный перевод. Почему "жуткий"???...
She had the ability to carry her chest up voice to exciting results. Her pairing with Corelli is magic. He had a great voice and truly appreciated and matched her artistry.
meravigliosi! divini!sublimi!!!!!!!!! erano veramente una coppia fantastica! Anche in Poliuto sono superlativi. Li adoro!!!!!!!!
The definitive Norma and Pollione. Incomparable!
Corelli..fantastico,insuperabile con Callas...
Fantastico,insuperabile con ogni partner...Corelli uguale perfezione...
Grandissimi interpretati tutti due!! Maria sempre divina nell' ruolo di Norma , e Franco un Polione impeccabile!!!
Norma e pollione per antonomasia, fantastici ed immortali❤❤❤❤🎶🎶🎶
A pair of unmatched opera stars.The legendary duo.
Wonderful photo too. Taken in the days when opera singers were still allowed to look like the people they were portraying. I saw a production recently where Medea, wearing a nightie, was padding around in a stage-set that looked like an IKEA showroom.
people who hate opera that much shouldnt be allowed to make opera productions
@@LohengrinO My favorite horror story is the Ring performed on board the Starship Enterprise with everyone in Star Trek costumes. That actually happened. I'm not making this up, you know!
I think the ROH current production of Carmen where Carmen enters in a gorilla suit takes some beating for stupidity in putting a modern twist to a classic opera.
I couldn't agree more. Because opera can be changed/adapted in the same way a play can, making a stage production using "modern" sets and costumes is just idiot
@@SymphonyBrahms There is also a La Boheme in Paris, with the action taking place ON THE MOON and the singers wearing space suits. Can you imagine Rodolfo singing that he is looking at the roofs of Paris. With a telescope?
Più ascolto la Callas, più mi convinco che non esistano cantanti così brave e celestiali ❤️
Beh semplicemente fantastici! Sono veramente Norma e Pollione 💕
Due mostri sacri! I piu Grandi in assoluto!❤
Siamo nell'Olimpo della lirica, insuperabili e credibilissimi in tutto!!!!
mariapia rosati 5
Is there a better pairing? Two magnificent voices creating magic. Overwhelming!
Oh dear, who can sing this way these days? The Normas I hear now are a pale reflection of the true Normas of the past. And Callas was the greatest of them. No one can even dream of coming close to her now although we had Caballe and Sutherland, who also gave us incredible accounts of this glorious music. But Callas remains unsurpassed, her vocal skills and interpretation are unique, as are her understanding of this most dramatic role. Unbeatable.
Her interpretation of "Norma" just surrounds me c so much of her Greek American Soul,Determination ,Hard Work in the field of Opera
Listen to Rosa Ponselle sometime.
che dire.... insuperabili ed insuperati... siamo nell'Olimpo della lirica
Due Titani!!!
VIVA!!!
Their voices together were bread and butter perfect. I find listening to MARIA very healing.
Maria Callas is the best bel canto soprano, the world has ever seen. Her studio recordings did ruin modern opera, but her stage recordings are as great as singing could be! This is the sound of opera!
Gli anni d'oro della vera grandissima lirica. Insuperabili, divini. Oggi purtroppo non abbiamo più queste voci da sogno nei teatri. Qui si viveva veramente la musica ancora con grandissima passione, interpretazione e emozionalità per non parlare della eccezionale e fantastica tecnica vocale che possedevano questi grandi della lirica.
Romea Romeo Oggi abbiamo soltanto dei microfoni.
Присоединяюсь к каждому слову!!!
J'ai l'âge d'avoir encore pu entendre la DIVINA MARIA, et bien d'autres, le problème est qu'on pallie l'incurie des chanteurs actuels par des mises en scène ridicules, crasseuses, violentes, si pas obscènes ! Bien souvent on voit des chanteuurs qui se trainent sur la scène ce qui est un contre-sens pour le chant. Ce qui manque surtout c'est un apprentissage implacable de la technique et de la maîtrise du souffle, ce qui leur fait cruellement défaut à notre époque !
They were both young, Callas being only two years younger than Corelli. How great it is to listen to back stage recordings of these two titans of the operatic world, you feel as though you are on stage with them. Thank you for posting.
indeed Titans... both of them and u do know that Corelli was Callas' most favorite tenor of them all
Wow What a beautiful compliment: Maria Callas didn't exist, it's all a dream!!!
indeed.. it is one of the most beautiful compliments I have ever heard about Maria
@@LohengrinO It should rather say: Maria Callas did exist! And it’s still a dream
It's as if it was composed specifically for both of them. What stunning music and what a stunning performance.
Such wonderful emotional expression in both singers!
Un duo superbo.
Wonderful. Corelli is great too.
They were perfect together!
Corelli è il più grande tenore italiano di sempre.
Sublime ho le lacrime agli occhi!!!
...why "against" Corelli? :)) They both were (and ARE) two unsurpassed GIANTS in their roles, and they liked each other!
yes
"against"dans le contexte de l'oeuvre,uniquement,pas en tant qu'artistes!
Because these people have a fetish for pissing contests, and the whole opera community seems to becoming more toxic by the day
@@downfromkentuckeh True, but I don't really think the poster meant anything bad by the title. At least, that's not the impression i got.
"Young" Corelli three years older than Callas:)
Incredible. I didn’t even know these two had sung together. I’m just beyond belief right now. I might put up some more adjectives later, but for now I am totally stunned, in the best possible way.
They sang together in Norma, La Vestale, Fedora, Poliuto, and Tosca.
DE PLUS ILS SONT
D UNE BEAUTE FASCINANTE
Titans of the Opera !!!
.....j adore ..la Divine est le Divin .......
My first time hearing this - oh my, thank you for posting, it is so wonderful!
Sono magnifici vero!!!!!!!!!!!! Mari
Muchísimo más que una preciosa voz, algo sublime.
I don't even understand how it's possible to sing Norma after Callas and Corelli. It should be forbidden.
"Η Μαρία Κάλλας "ερμήνευε το όνειρο" με μια αφοπλιστικη αλήθεια.!
Είχε γεννηθεί για να τραγουδά και να βρίσκεται στην σκηνή.
Η μουσική και η φωνή της διείσδυαν στην καρδιά, δημιουργούσε μελωδία!
Είχε μέσα της, μέσα στην φωνή της ΤΗ ΖΩΗ" !!
Φράνκο Κορέλι.
MAGNIFIQUE !!!!
Yes,this is a historie recording.Keep it for ever…
Brynjar Hoff
TRES GRAND MERCI
POUR CET EXCEPTIONNEL
FABULEUX PARTAGE
Irrepetible. Excelentes.
La grande Callas finchè cantava era contenta e soddisfatta, ma poi ha incontrato Onassis, pensava di avere trovato l'amore e invece in breve tempo è precipata in un burrone!!
Concordo ma Onassis ha pagato il male fatto a Maria, un matrimonio di interesse con la Kennedy costoso e fallimentare, la figlia allontanatasi perché non sopportava Jackie e il figlio morto in un incidente aereo. La nemesi esiste ... E nonostante ciò Maria seppure infelice, ma sempre generosa le fu vicina fino alla fine da quella grande donna che era..
@@numetutelare Vero, la Callas che sembrava una potenza, nella vita era molto fragile, bisognosa di affetto, non sapeva amministrarsi, aveva bisogno di persone buone, come ha detto anche quella signora di Milano che la conobbe bene, adesso mi sfugge il nome di quella persona, ma c'è una intervista qui in CZcams!
@@francoferrari1737 si l' ho vista anche io e conferma la sua fragilità e anche generosità... Era un gigante sulla scena ma una persona dolce che certi giornali e nemici provocavano. Ha semore avuto parole lusinghiere per molte colleghe che sono state ingenerose con lei...lo diceva spesso la Sutherland che fu voluta da Maria in Norma e fu il suo esordio.. il fatto è che in quegli anni nessuni capi' fino in fondo che rivoluzione avrebbe creato questa donna...Molte cantavano bene ed avevano ottime voci, lei impronto' la lirica secondo i canoni della vecchia scuola e ripristino' il belcanto sdoganando opere raramente rappresentate... Macbeth, Medea, Anna Bolena, e delle i credibili Norme. Sonnambule e Lucie, fece di Traviata una vera pièce teatrale cantata, insomna in 10 anni rivoluziono' la lirica mondiale, e ancora viviamo di rendita della sua opera di rivalutazione delle intepretazioni di Traviata, Tosca etc...
Dobbiamo tutti gratitudine alla sua assoluta dedizione all'arte lirica... Una persona che provava fino allo sfinimento per raggiungere il top e lei, solo lei, provava in voce tanto che le orchestre si fermavano ad applaudirla. Nessuna delle sue colleghe di oggi e di ieri facevano lo stesso, nessuna, tutte a canticchiare sottovoce per risparmiarsi, e lo capusco ma se si vuole il top si canta come su dovrebbe per valutare la resa scenica e vocale. Forse altre sono durate di piu... Certamente, ma nessuna di loro e' diventata una leggenda, brave, grandi, rinomate, certo ma esiste solo un prima e dopo Callas... E resterà tale!!!
I like this audio recording, it recorded the noise and echo. It provide a more realistic and complete of how they sound than many recording in the 20th century
I feel that way about Corelli.
Sublime pairing.......thank you 😘
Thank you!
Take my heart, for I no longer need it after this.
MARAVILLOSOS
Потрясающе...Потрясающеڰۣ✿
Truly gigantic chest tones. Amazing that Callas could seamlessly transition from Tigress to the fragile lachrymose tones in the final scene, all within a few minutes of each other.
Definitely the most difficult role IMO. Who else could sing those low tones with such aggressive dark placement then sing those venomous trills and then finally the pleading heroic middle voice tones with agility? Simply untouchable singing.
+jmiller05 and imagine that the mentally retarded Beverly Sills had said that: Norma isnt a difficult role to sing (then Milanov had replied to her: of course it isnt, the way you! sing it :D ).. she considered the Queen of the Night the most difficult role (now isnt there a huge list of extremely good Queens of the Night, but only one really good Norma.. I suppose statistics were too much to handle for her poor mind)
Lol, Sills's Norma was a circus. Random transpositions and re-writings of the low tessitura to fit her voice high. Anyone could do that (Gruberova, Devia).
wtf with all these Ghost accounts that visit this page.. what is wrong with all these people? they make one account in order to be able to speak nasty to me? WTF! :D
Shahrdad
Ambition without Intellect is one of the worst spectacles in our realm... and she dared say once that Norma was easy to sing only to provoke Milanov to tell her: The way you sang it, yes it is easy
Shahrdad
as a human being, from what I have read of her saying, she was a complete Idiot :D her musicianship I suspect was not hers, but Roland Gagnon's (he was behind all the re-writing of the score in order to fit her voice)
but I do like a lot her ultra stretched version of Pamira I just posted (thats the only thing I ever liked from her)
You can’t just classify a goddess Voice.
ВОСХИТИТЕЛЬНО !!!
What a timid audience! I know Italians would often restrain themselves mid-scene, but this performance should make anyone lose it!
Прекрасный дуэт великих певцов!
Да! Два Прекраснейших голоса и сочетание двух начал...Женского и Мужского! Красота и Совершенство!
@@user-pn3ec7wg2h Да уж, такое женское начало - детоубийца, самоубийца, мужеубийца. Смехотворно...наши всегда такую высокопарно-сентиментальную чепуху несут.
@@perlesbaroquesuniques Что поделать, климат у нас такой - располагает. ❄
@@perlesbaroquesuniquesпочему Норма детоубийца, она не смогла убить своих детей и перед смертью попросила отца позаботиться о них. Относительно самоубийства, она ведь взяла на себя вину своей молодой соперницы, Поллион, которого она любила, сам захотел умереть вместе с ней.
@@leonardcohen5529 её с трудом удалось остановить, да и само намерение навряд ли свидетельствует о том, что она хорошая мать. В результате собственного безрассудства оставила детей сиротами, её отец/их дедушка отверг их поначалу, и судьба детей - плодов греха в тех обстоятельствах весьма незавидная. Поллионе уже был выдан ею, он фактически был обречён. Образ Нормы явно навеян Медеей. В любом случае, трудно восторгаться её характером, музыка, конечно, прекрасная, но сама героиня не вызывает симпатий, и уж тем более не является образцом женской красоты и совершенства.
altro Pollione credibile insieme a Vickers e Del Monaco tre numeri UNO..la signora Callas è Norma per antonomasia...
Cosi con loro due irraggiungibile si festeggiono i 100 anni della nacita di maria callas poi mettici la musica dibellini chiudi gli occhi e sognali❤🎉
Divini..!!!
everything callas possessed is so antithetical to all the crassness, vulgarity, and mediocrity, and maybe even outright cruelty, that the present government represents. thank the fates that she existed, and that someone invented the means to keep on listening to her.
te very best Callas/Norma version of all!!! baritonal amazing chest-notes! La Divina forever!
maria callas didn't exist! it's all a dream
Leo Henry a good dream.
Sometime I guess to
The most beautiful words ever to be said about any singer
@@eduardobraivein8496, no. It is a live perfomance of Norma in Trieste, 1953.
💙
Wunderbar
Callas Corelli: dopo c'è solo l'Olimpo
Loro SONO l' Olimpo...
PRECIOSO
Un dúo gallardo, ella es la única Norma cierta del siglo XX, si bien Sutherland y Caballe supieron cabalgar el rol, solamente la Callas ha podido expresar todo lo el mismo exige, aquí junto al Corelli que está a la altura de las circunstancias, que aclaro él era mayor que Callas, esta es una de las páginas más hermosas compuestas y por este duo aprendí amar a Norma. Callas y Norma es lo mismo.
fabuleux... que dire .... callas...lui....
Ho la pelle d'oca.
As Placido Domingo once remarked about singers like Corelli or Pavarotti: steel always works.
Callas was the best Norma and Abigail Nabucco and right after Maria is Julia Varady,exquisite
Trieste 1953
this is when the worth of living is doubed.....that is the reason to live
I cannot find the comment from James McCourt to which you draw attention. But, I wish to add that Maria Callas was a great supporter of other singers and a gracious artist. Yes she did have her 'moments' but mainly due to her great anxiety as a performer and her perfectionism. She made derogatory comments about other singers but mostly these were justified. Her support of singers such as Victoria De Los Angeles, Teresa Berganza and Monserrat Cballe is well documented.
MARAVILLA PURA
Olympic!!!
Why would any soprano or tenor even think of singing these roles after hearing Callas and Corelli. You would have to be out of your mind since there is no way you can match this. Callas' Norma will be the gold standard for eternity.
Ce frumoasă era ... ❤
If i could go back in a time machine i would see Farinelli sing Handel e Porpora, Cafarelli in Manna, Callas and Pasta in Bellini, Viardot and Malibran in bel canto stuff and Nilsson and Flagstad in Wagner... But i'm young 40yo and theres no time machines, so i will enjoy what i have.
And Falcon in Meyerbeer and Halévy.
The 1st 3 notes she sings 👌
А вот Марио предпочитал петь с Ренатой Тебальди👍🏼👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Мария могла пнуть куда не надо, бедному Франко однажды досталось...
Senza paragoni. Questi sono mostri sacri ed immortali solo del monaco può stare aĺla pari con questi colleghi immensi ed innarrivabili. Renato mautino da s.mauro torinese in casa di riposo.
Maria Callas DIVINA
Ein Traum
Soprano is Soprano AND Tenor is Tenor. Period. Female and male cords are anatomically different and produce different reaches in singing. Female cords vibrate in registers like C, two octaves above middle C or beyond, and Tenor vibrates comfortably in registers between C3 to C5 (mostly using falsetto to reach higher notes but possibly damaging their cords). They both have different extensions and tessituras to use in their own roles inside the Opera singing....
all'opera bisogna andare non per lo champagne, ma per far sentire la propria voce ed il battito di mani
Как же точно сказано!!! В последнее время именно это наблюдаю в Большом театре. Сплошные декольте с бокалом шампанского, а настоящих ценителей маловато...
Люблю.
...divins chanteurs
She is indeed basso-devilish here, like Medea, while Franco is a vain and selfish beautiful playboy with a bright voice. One can understand why the pleasure-loving Pollione grew tired of this macabre, fiersome woman. Strangely Maria's own life reminds of Norma's, she could sing this to Onassis...
Jackie O though was an expensive prostitute and a Black Widow not the innocent Adalgisa
@@LohengrinO true but truth be told La Callas craved those characters in real life. If she had not we would probably have her for much longer. While Adalgisa is not that innocent - after swearing her devotion to Norma and feigning repudiation of Pollione, she conspires to run away with him, thereby betraying Norma and breaking her pledge (scene in Act 2 when Clotilde tells Norma of Adalgisa and Pollione trying to flee). Quite worthy of that rich, famous, the bad and the ugly circle.
Purroppo dobbiamo dimenticarci tutto questo per andare avanti,non e' facile ma dobbiamo farlo per andare avanti,dimenticare il paradiso terrestre per accettare la mediocrita' odierna
the Titans will return
@@LohengrinO Aspettiamo
Unbelievable! Is this a live recording from the 50's (w.Simionato, Corelli and Zaccaria c.Rescigno) or an excerpt of her 1960 studio recording (same interpreters except Christa Ludwig for Giulietta Simionato)?
its not contraltoish, its developped chest voice, like every soprano should have ;)
No one can sound as angry as Callas. She was born to sing this duet. I always love listening to her “I romani...” after 4:06 . It’s a masterclass in phrasing. Caballe tried to imitate there and sounded like one big bump next to the other.
Caballe, except in her prime, sounded like a big bump every time...
.......shhhhhhh
I've always had this weird fantasy that Callas, after her high notes were pretty much gone, would dress up in male drag and begin a new career as an operatic tenor. That's a thing I'd pay to see - Callas singing some famous tenor role - she certainly had the chest register...
well the ultimate Opera drag Queens were older dame Joan and Birgit in terms of appearance... Callas could have made a spectacular career as mezzo or contralto in her later years, it was suggested to her but said NO as she had never sung second roles in her career not even when she started singing professionally at the age of 16
@@LohengrinO had she flew Italy forever after Rome and went to London or Paris, take the mezzo lead roles and even get people creating more for her I believe her life would have been less tragic.
But the Italians were only half the problem, Onassis was the other!
Is there a stereo release of the '54 Norma recording?
I just listened Cerquetti's Norma in Spotify today, she was drowned by Corelli in that recording, and also Corelli hold the last note longer in the duet. But in this recording, Callas drowned Corelli! I think Corelli is paired with the right Soprano in this recording, because Callas can balance the Corelli's voice (same volume, same length in note holding).
Well, i love Cerquetti too, she was a great singer in her era, even her career was too short. What a pity...
Callas doesn't even try. She never truly sing with her ULTRA FORTE when singing with Corelli. She's able to outshine Del Monaco, so she's very capable to do the same with Corelli.
I LOVE Callas the baritone!
😎😎😎
Makes the hair on my arms stand up......etc ☺
Corelli is as spinto tenor.
James McCourt who installed this thinks Callas was Spanish. She was GREEK!
There’s also no evidence at all to claim Callas “hated” New York
Greek heritage, but born in America,-so the greatest American singer.
azért ott volt Corelli is !!!
against might mean only 'opposite'
Name of the Aria? Please, to look up the score
Они оба Прекрасны!!!
people may say what they like, that they prefer Sutherland, etc... but one just needs to listen to Norma's entrance, to realize how har the role was for Sutherland...ok high up, but the voice must come down too, already at the first entrance... very problematic for her... there is not very much there...
dame Joan actually had a low voice that out of choice left weak and underdeveloped for vocal health reasons... not to mess with the glorious top
@@LohengrinO Joan owned the trills and top notes. Her trills are still quite unsurpassed and Maria could never compare. But for each her own, they are great in different repertoires.
@electricxcircus Sutherland could do ANY trill - at any note, any frequency, any volume. Callas could not even hold a candle to Sutherland when it comes to trills. Callas is basically a dramatic soprano - huge voice with no trills. Her power of expression is extraordinary, but her pure voice has been controvertial - Karajan did not like it, preferring Freni and that type of soprano sound. Sutherland is that pure sound, when, like Callas, she was in her prime. She is an unmatched coloratura with a divine sound, something that can never be said about Callas' Abigaille, Lady Macbeth, Norma, Medea - the dark heroines. She could never sing a bright Seraphim (Handel) - just not that type of voice and technique.
@electricxcircus Sutherland could do ANY trill - at any note, any frequency, any volume. Callas could not even hold a candle to Sutherland when it comes to trills. Callas is basically a dramatic soprano - huge voice with no trills. Her power of expression is extraordinary, but her pure voice has been controversial - Karajan did not like it, preferring Freni and that type of soprano sound. Sutherland is that pure sound, when, like Callas, she was in her prime. She is an unmatched coloratura with a divine sound, something that can never be said about Callas' Abigaille, Lady Macbeth, Norma, Medea - the dark heroines. She could never sing a bright Seraphim (Handel) - just not that type of voice and technique.
@electricxcircus There are no trills in Abigaille, that is really laughable! in Vespri yes, and indeed she did the trills but it is not her strong point, she never excels in it like Sutherland. Callas' specialty is not an angelic voice, what is there to argue??? It's obvious to anyone who can hear her dark, dramatic, demonic sound.
That voice is not human voice*****