How difficult is it to remove a label or stigma in the NBA and why NBA GMs are like a fraternity
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Him sitting up there looking like a Southern baptist pastor after his 2nd plate at the repass is irony.
Cmon bro 😂😂😂
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GOLD 😂😂
😂 damn! How you gon’ do him like that
Do you know what irony means
No way he’s saying he only came outta shape ONE yr with a straight face like we didn’t watch him blow up like he’s on birth control
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lookin at him now being out of shape that stigma was kinda funny
First time I’m hearing him outside of a basketball context. He seems like a chill and smart dude.
They’re talking about basketball the whole time
@@versatillion15 meaning my first time hearing him speak without literally wearing a jersey haha. Same topic but from a different perspective
He was labeled out of shape and he came out to prove it
Lol the league label of being out of shape seem to have been right
Nah lol he retired. F that, eat as much as you want now
I’m not 100% sure when it started, but he was definitely pudge fudge during his playing days.
@@Zorohudsonhe can be a balloon now
To the out of shape situation. You are a PROFESSIONAL athlete. Being paid millions. You should be the epitome of stay ready so you don’t gotta get ready.
Imagine not knowing what a injury is
@@evancrawford4720 Imagine thinking that's a valid excuse
@@Jas_Masyou telling him to do something you literally wouldn’t be able to do
@@ajhandsome01 stay fit? ok.
suga free
“I’m not in 20s anymore” Correct! which just means you have eat less than you did and have more discipline in your 30s to maintain your weight. Getting older doesn’t mean you automatically add pounds. Eating more and working out less does that.
Yep. Plus he was looking big in the okc days so it was not at all just based on his Portland time.
@@moballardfulhe was out of shape his last 5 years especially with OKC. So it wasn’t what FOLLOWED him its what it is.
Dudes don’t understand you can’t be in the clubs knocking back alcohol like it’s water either. That drinking adds weight
@@csharp57 everyone knows that
I drink a lot (red wine) and i'm in shape..
And i'm 48 !
What in the big backery has this man been eating?
He's probably eating the same stuff he always ate, just now that he's retired, he isn't doing nearly as much cardio. He was always low key kinda chubby.
@@TheballadofJ True.
Empanadas, arroz con gandules, pizza, Popeyes, etc 😂
Raymond Felton in college was explosive, dunking N blowing by defenders. Took his foot off the gas in the league. He gotta lose some weight rn. Its a lifestyle choice he still struggles with. Find the motivation my G. You breathing heavy which is an indicator of sleep apnea. Keep on living
I been wacthing felton since he was at north Carolina very good player
It’s a scale. If your level of play is a 9, and your level of mess is a 7, drama with teammates, coaches, refs, you get to stay in the league and get paid. When you age or get injured and your level of play is now a 6, but you’re still on level 7 with all the mess, it’s a net negative, and no one wants you. The best thing is to never start all the mess. Teams will keep you around later even if your game drops off.
Dudes voice at the end on the prize picks ad threw me off 😂😂
😂😂😆😆
I’m from Portland.. a little outa shape is crazy😂😂😂😂😂😂
Felton been eatin good
wtf did jamal crawford do to be black balled after dropping 50 in his last game? serious question.
I use to say no defense but nobody plays that so I was wrong
Simply ageism.. that's all. Which is so dumb, but true.
Racism
Guys Jamal played with the nets in the 2020 bubble and got hurt. Then his career was over. Stop acting like it some major reason behind his exit from the nba
He just wasn't actually as good offensively as he looked. Across his last 5 seasons he shot about 40% from the field, and this was while being a very poor 3 point shooter. He shot 33%, 34%, 36%, 33%, and 33% from 3 across his last 5 seasons. On top of this, he only averaged a little over 2 assists 4 of those 5 seasons.
If you don't space the floor, and you don't pass the ball well, it's already hard to justify playing you, on top of the fact that he was horrible defensively. The only thing he really brought to the table was above average midrange shooting, but most teams don't want non-stars taking many midranges generally, especially not as your only thing.
As a Knick fan, I can confirm Raymond Felton was (barely) a backup in his 9th season. In all seriousness, he was that by his 7th season.
anybody watch battle rap? He look and sound like t-rex😂
Ol’ Big Body Boy 😂
Why you hating, little body? 😂
Much respect
Felton looks like mini shaq 💀☠️🏴☠️
This is a good question
Raymond Felton and that UNC Team with Hansbrough, McCants and Sean May was the best UNC Team the last 20 years.
As somebody who had a body like Felton he not lying. We overeat we pack it on quick.
Bro knows there are on,y 400 active nba players….there are 600 other athletes practicing everyday for a chance to fill up a spot if it opens up…why on earth would you not stay in shape when that’s the stigma about you? Simple answer: you have enough money.
I don't remember Ray in Dallas lol😂😂😂
Felton rocking that James Harden bod 🤖
Before Kyle Lowry we had felton😂
Lowry is not even close to how Felton was and Is
They said he was out of shape…were they wrong? Look how easy he became a walrus
Would love to see what you look like lol
I like the THICKNESS on ray. Shows character
Exactly labels and associations are hard to shake. For instance, when Kobe got in trouble in Colorado, it took years to revamp his image. It’s a lot better. But even still to this day, media and other people find a way to bring it up. Reputation is big
I mean….
I remember this man. Felton was a dawg loved his game true pg.
The sad thing is, he doesn’t see himself as accountable for his actions at all. There are 1000 people who want your spot, don’t allow you laziness to give it to him.
I use to look at Felton and be like how did he make it to the NBA. But he was old school solid. They also can control young players. Vets do what they want
Raymond came into camp outta shape plenty of times
Buddy looking and sounding like Rick Ross
Mr. Felton should have NEVER been out of shape.
It's like any competitive business
While they compete against each other, they still talk to each other
Carmelo Anthony was blackballed and told that he couldn’t play anymore at the Age 35. No major injuries nothing. Tell me it’s not politics
Bro built like a bag of laundry lol ... still had a ok career thou lol
Have a feeling if the player is passed their prime and isn’t a bonafide return on investment type of player, fan favorite type at least, someone that puts butts in the stands, the owners don’t care if you’re good. It’s a money decision at that point. They don’t want to just give older players contracts because they become eligible for pension/healthcare after a set number of years. Just a thought.
Ray was legit on the knicks
He's right. One out of shape year and thats the label from there on out. You cannot play in the NBA out of shape but the tag stayed with guys like Kemp and Felton.
The point guards he meant to say was JJ Barea, Devin Harris, Rajon Rondo, Jameer Nelson & himself....chandler Parsons was a swingman and monta ellis a 2 guard
He also didn't play all that well that next season like he remembers...bro had the 4th worst PER on the team and 3rd worst Box plus minus despite starting in 31 of the 80 games he played
He did average 15 in the playoffs but again he was 7th on the team in PER and 6th on the team in box plus minus....which was in the negative so he was a liability... specifically offensively
Great player Raymond Felton 💪🏿
Raymond Felton was a very good player. He was just shy of becoming an all-star. He reminds me of Russell Westbrook with regards to his motor playing every possession with undiminished vigor. There aren't many players like Raymond currently in the league who strives to give 💯 on the court.
He’s right about Cousins. He was amazing. I used to argue with dudes at the bar and parties about Cousins, he was incredible, but he threw that away with the attitude 🤷🏽♂️😎
Yea being from Alabama is a huge handicap most bamas can’t overcome
Cousins was a great hooper but he was wildly emotional,dude acted like the world was against him so when he got injured it gave them ppl the greenlight to sabotage his career.At the very least cousins proved he could be a 12-17 minute backup big especially when all teams be looking for is center depth
He was not skinny at 17, if you are solid in your teens you will be huge in your 30's and 40's
One season out of shape is bs…because I remember him running around like a lil pudge monster
In professional sports, perception is reality. It also explains why terrible coaches continue to get passed around between teams.
Idk I think that out of shape stigma could’ve been due to the fact Felton always looked fat for some reason
“Thick” not fat
Imagine broke people hating like they not overweight
Chandler parsons was a small forward
Who is he?
He was always a good point guard on bad teams, so I get why he starting eatin’ good.
All I see is T-Rex
A little out of shape😂
The title or Description should contain his name.
All that shit shouldn’t matter if the player performs on the court and gets along with the teammates
I feel you bro. But when you paying a guy millions of dollars, you have to understand this is a "business". So if a guy is a total butt hole, but he avgs 20, and he disrespectful, cussing you out, an you the one paying him. That guy gone. I'll find another guy with less stress.
@@windycity2411 yea i get what yo u saying it’s just depending on context
But ppl often mix shit together you have to separate the person from its work
For example you like and music artist for there songs you aren’t suppose to be there for life outside of it
Nah you crazy, they will deal with it as long as possible until it becomes public or they not winning @@windycity2411
@@nitoshadowit’s a investment you not bout to buy a car if the engine or motor clogged
@@SosaA11 that’s not. Good comparison
The car working = player performance on court
My nicca looked pregnant out there on the court.
I always liked his game PAUSE
I really don’t bemoan what any player does in their own career and self-interest, these teams will throw them away like five week old trash.
The comments are not your friend when you gain weight 😭💀
This is an underrated podcast it’s better than lebron podcast he teamed up with the white man
Racist blacks
Yeah, Kevin Porter Jr. Let his ego and anger get the best of him
Ray one out of shape Ray stop the cap 🧢
Ray look in the mirror bro that label was justified
Well he is retired
That facts retired or not if you didn’t know who he was you would never know he was a world class athlete lol
😂🤦🏿♂️
Oh ok so MJ should have been labeled out of shape too since he has ballooned up in retirement. No logic
Buddy been outta shape since he was with the Bobcats and he loves Guns lol. Stop 🧢on these podcasts changing history
That's the main critique I got with new player media nowadays these mfs be lying or creating narratives to cover up the negatives of their career or to protect the brotherhood they got.They act no different then the same non athlete media that they've complained about all these years
I fw bro but he was chunky every season😂😂. Why you sitting on your ass not ready to play regardless
Portland fans was on his ass
Theres no reason for you to let yourself go this way.
His excuse was weird cause why would you let yo self get that big tho cause you never changed what your body looked like even now you look like you did on your last contract
raymond bruh, you never averaged 18ppg
Boogie
The NBA is despicable they’ll find ways to phase you out especially if you’re not a token Black player. They’re doing with James Harden right now, they’ve done it to Iverson, they’re even opening the door to do it to KD as well. That’s why you see so much bad publicity from commentators about him outside of his gameplay.
Harden is a bad example. He constantly quits on teams, and they still trade for him. And he's probably going to get a nice contract this summer.
All of them are token black players intentionally or unintentionally it is what it is in their line of work.
Hold on, what do yall mean by token black player?
#Excuses
u lucky even be in the league that long, lol those guys wauyyy more talented u named
He's lying.. He started being out of shape in Denver
He was just below average as a starter he Fs would’ve had a longer career if his ego didn’t have him thinking he should be starting
That's not true he was a league leader in assists for YEARS
1 year out of shape in middle school?
Imagine hating
Ray Felton was a good player but he never took conditioning seriously. He was always over weight.
This guy cheeks but salute to him
Ray been eatin good - pause - I am sorry
Poor production, y'all can't even intro this man or put his name and accolades on screen?
Disrespectful frfr
it’s a clip from the actual episode relax gang
@@plutooszn If they're gonna clip and repost someone's content they can put a lil more effort into it. That's my humble expert opinion.
@@PandaTheGrayit’s there pod they posted a clip if you want to watch the full pod he tells you at the end of the video
Genuinely don’t know if any podcast puts names and accolades on any clips from a podcast. Appreciate the input though, we’ll consider it moving forward. Love yall 🙏🏼
@@PandaTheGrayit’s a clip from their own podcast on their own channel … lol
why when atheletes retire they get so fat?
Because they finally stop having to be required to keep themselves conditioned.Alot of times they keep themselves in shape because of the job or a new contract but once they're done they stop doing their routine
Guy was trash in any era 🤦🏾♂️couldn’t stand bro playing with the knicks 🤣 nah Felton was really trash 🚮
You wasn’t that good bro. N I was a fan of the Tape back in the day
So when gms all plot when they dont like a player so they blackballin them Carmelo dwight demarcus cousin john wall jamal Crawford lou Williams tacko fall bol bol Uhmm okay now we know nba is racist this why we stop watchin
Ageism. your almost there lmao
@@majestyirving1372 im 20 so gomd thank you
I get the point but Carmelo, Jamal, Lou...played 19, 20 and 17 seasons. Not good examples. Lou was even somewhat of an anomaly being a 6'1" inefficient scorer with ehhh defense lasting that long.
@@albertdaley9093Lou Williams didn’t wanna play no more
@@velcapitan see we cant talk if thats your fake knowledge.
So how come they dont put stigmas on white players
They're white, that's the stigma...they can only shoot 3s or play scrappy D
Big men who are white are stimgatized as soft
Everyone gets labelled in all sports, reason you don't see white corners and hardly any black centers
😂man shutup
danny ferry was a white supremacist and managed to find jobs as a GM in the majority black NBA. shutup
@@1Eashawty emd
@@albertdaley9093 u just wanna be a victim just like yo mama
Apparently being outta shape followed him out of the league too