S&W 1076 vs. Kentucky LEO Qualification
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- In number 48, I'm taking on a Kentucky qualification course with my S&W 1076. Check out the video to see how it goes!
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S&W 1076 - the legend! 👍🏻
That 10mm packs a punch .I had a Bren 10 Jeff Cooper Gun Sight pistol back in the 80's & a Colt Delta Elite in 10mm & also a Glock 10mm. Cost more to shoot than my AR-15. SOLD THEM NOW KICKING MYSELF FOR IT.
Too bad those pistols got away Rick!
@@hrfunk the dumb things we do hen we’re young! I traded a few Colt revolvers for modern semi autos back in my 20s to early 30s. A 4” .357 Colt Detective Mark IV, another Colt Police 38 snub from the 50s and get this, an 10” .357 Colt Python chrome(or nickel)! All were like new and were inherited from my Grandfather on my dad’s side, that I really didn’t know. So being there was no real “sentimental” value and I didn’t like “cowboy” guns, I ignorantly and STUPIDLY traded them even for a Glock 19, a Springfield XD40(when they first came out in like 03 I think) and a damn Smith and Wesson SW9VE! Almost cry now whenever I think about it.
@@GrumpyGenXGramps I don't blame you. I almost shed a tear just reading this.
@@GrumpyGenXGramps Ouch! You could trade those guns for a small Cadillac now days! Geoff Who exaggerates, a little.
I've had a few of them that did that Black Rifle but the one I miss maybe the most was the AMT Automag 45 win mag I had,,,I kick myself on a regular basis on that one.
Reminder set. It’s not required for my job (county corrections), but if you decide to do a 50 state LEO rifle and/or shotgun qualification series, I’ve got the GA POST basic courses for both bookmarked. Looking forward to the last few pistol qual videos and your conclusions. God Bless!
Thanks! I'll let you know if I need it.
What a WLD (Weird Looking Duck) of a course! You did make the best out of an odd situation. It is of particular interest to me as I live 7 miles from Kentucky. The star of this one is that amazing 3rd gen S&W!
Thanks! I like that 1076 too. I just wish I would have had a more conventional course to shoot it on.
As you are well aware, a lot of duty gun choices, ammo and equipment and the courses of fire come from the one "gun guy" or the COP in an agency and everyone gets stuck with those choices. As you proved if you can shoot, the course is irrelevant!
My FBI partner carried a 1076 10MM when we worked Bank Robbery Investigations, I used the Glock 20 10MM during that period. He was very fond of that weapon (1076) and carried it off duty as well. I'd say 3 feet point shooting to 3 yards is logical, because you may not have time to aim, five yards really odd and even if just a front sight flash that would be logical. The 1/10 of a second more to put at least the front sight on the target could separate survival from a less amenable outcome, in a fight only hits count.
I agree. That is just a weird stage.
I am reminded of that WW2 Training film on the 1911, which tended to ignore the sights. Geoff Who notes the issue sights were notoriously easy to damage and hard to replace.
WOW what a strange course of fire. I agree with you on the 5 yard "hip rock" at that distance you can bring the gun up and point shoot, we did "hip shooting at 1 yard. 24 yards???? Misprint by any chance? That scoring would be a nightmare for a range officer. Low light/no light was a separate course of fire.
I agree with everything you just said.
I liked qualifications including low light since I spent much of my time in the patrol division working nights. Thanks chief. Interesting video as usual. Blessings.
You’re welcome Woodrow. Thanks for watching!
I like total time limits, with no individual limits. This progressively stresses the shooter and forces them to hurry as they would in the field. It actually tests their proficiency, rather than their clock management.
And a competitive shooter learns to manage the clock in timed events in ways he would never do if in a "real" situation
Another great video, definitely a interesting course. Keep them coming.
Thanks, will do!
I know the Lexington Kentucky Police Department range is outdoors it’s right down the street from where I work
Thanks. This course did not come from Lexington.
Hi Chief this course seriously reminds me of one of my original qualifications designed for a revolver, even the low light portions where we used the outline of the revolver as a sight, and no light we used the older technique of holding the mag light over our head in the support hand. Even the timing of the stages.
I was thinking the same thing, that this would've been more conducive to a revolver than a semiauto. These are pretty much Outdated techniques being used in the course, in My opinion.
@@SierraBravo347 I agree we shot a very similar course in 80-81 with K-frames and Ruger security six’s with my department even the times were similar. We shot on b-27 targets
@@williambarnette1049 I'm still a sucker for a Good wheelgun . Two of my favorites I have are a S&W model 28-2 made in '72, and a model 10-5 made in '74, it's a 2" model. It definitely looks like that course could use a little Freshening Up for sure!
I think this is a course from designed in a bygone era too. By the way SB, stay tuned. A wheelgun will be featured in the next qualification video.
@@hrfunk Will do!
That dominant hand drill goes back to the day of Andrew Jackson and his favorite pastime while living in the state of Kentucky... dueling. We outlawed it sometime in the 1970s, but here in the hills of eastern Kentucky its still on rare occasion practiced, so one must keep in pratice and besides, old habits die hard here in Kentucky😂 nice video.
You're correct about the "hip rock" technique. Popularized by Chuck Taylor back in the '80s as the "speed rock", it is designed for contact distance/point blank engagements, often taught with a weak-hand palm strike to the face of the target included. It is an excellent technique for that scenario (I personally remain a fan of it to this day), but should not be used beyond about the one yard range. That said, point shooting from the hip IS a valuable skill to develop. And as you demonstrated, it really does REQUIRE development to get any good at it.
Watching those shots hitting, with only a single flyer anywhere right of the center line, all I could think was "Oh crap, his sights are off.". Good to know that I was right...
Yep. That's what I get for not checking the sights before I shoot a qual course!
@@hrfunk Was the set screw in the rear sight missing? Geoff Who notes the video isn't detailed enough to tell.
@@geofftimm2291 Yes. It’s there.
Reminder Set HrFunk 😀😀😊
The drill to shoot from the hip is an FBI technique used with revolver 38 spl. Look the FBI video Shooting for Survival, from the FBI in the 60th’s. For today is an obsolete shotting technique. Very good series of videos of the State Police cualification test in the USA!
My hat is off to all the KY LEOs out there. They must all be cool as ice because if I had to start my qual w/a -10 due to that rock, well... That 1076 is outstanding, though. Nice duty rig too, Sir!
Thank you!
Having a low light or no light stage or two is not a bad idea. Maybe KY has a "dark house" for these stages. Many PD's overlook low light or night shooting and I do think that is an important aspect since many Officers have to respond in these conditions.
That may have been true at one time. I don't think it is the case today.
We have a training facility at the eku campus that most bigger cities departments send their officers to.
I enjoyed your review of this one. Been waiting for it a while lol.
I know. Like I said in the video, I had to give this one some thought as to how to present it. I hope you liked my solution.
@@hrfunk indeed. You break things down efficiently. It could have used movement. I’m still in the fence thinking about the hip roll shots. Do you think a caliber with less recoil and a little practice would induce better placement?
@@piratebob53 my short answer to that is “probably.” Even so, I don’t think even the most proficient of shooters should rely upon this technique for use under stressful conditions. There is just too much room for an errant shot.
Great looking gun liked and added to my playlist
Thanks!
I'm here.
This was another great video. I loved the Smith. The course struck me as weird too.
Thanks Samuel.
I think it would be worth a separate, spin-off video on the hip rock and at what distance you can master it at, still using the SW 1076.
Back in 1977 in the Sheriff's Academy we trained in Point Shooting. Essentially, from up close and moving back; at 2-3 yards we shot one handed from the hip, elbow at the 90 degree. We did not "rock," we moved our arm to adjust the hit on the target. Moving back to 5-yards we'd have both hands on the gun, arms slightly extended and the gun held about mid-chest; two-handed point shooting.
At 7-yards our arms were fully extended and the gun was up at eye level and we were shooting either Weaver or Isosceles. I had no qualms about our firearms training and was very confident in my shooting skills.
I would agree - and would have liked to see the first stage (from the hip) shot at 6 feet - much more realistic & safer for non combatants.
Absolutely!
That’s different for sure , the states are almost over now
Yep, we're coming down to the wire!
@@hrfunk But what about the new states of Washington DC, Puerto Rico, Guam and Long Island? Geoff Who keeps up with politics.
I like the one handed shots at more of a distance. With your right the climb is straight up, with the left it's at an angle to palm. Would you say that is based on you elbow position or just the grip? You can definitely handle the 10mm with your paws.
Can't wait to see the remaining two courses and the conclusion. Then I wait for rifle and shotgun.
I do that to line up the sights with my dominant eye while shooting left handed.
It looks like that pistol was expecting you to use some Kentucky windage. The course seems like it was designed very late on a Friday night under adverse conditions.
By somone who was not happy about having to do it!
@@hrfunk Drinking heavily at the time?
260 would have been a Sgt. I purchased my 1076 when we switched to a .40 cal Glock, buying price was considered steep in 2001, 600.00. Many passed on purchasing thinking it was “too much”
Your first drill was done as a “push drill” for us. Left hand on the target, when u hear tone push off and draw, firing from the hip (3 feet)
No time limit on strong hand/weak hand, and we did it at 15 yards. Weak hand to simulate an injury is what I was told.
Thanks for the info. Are you still working in Law Enforcement?
Definitely one of the odder courses I have watched you shoot. That Smith 10mm looks like a really well made pistol. A friend of mine has a Colt double eagle in 10mm. I rarely hear of anyone mentioning those.
I knew an officer years ago who carried one of those, but he is the only one.
Nice video. I guess this course has "Kentucky Windage".
Yep!
Sir, while I'm not a LEO, as far as the rocker drill, my guess it would be for bears. They can close that distance in just a few seconds
I am a retired KSP Trooper and we were issued the 1076 starting in 1994. I can tell you that course isn’t one of ours that I can recall since 1994. Also, all issued 1076’s had the KSP logo etched into the frame with an acid process. I do still have contacts that can loo look up your SN to verify if it was one of ours. I bought my 1076 and still have it. It’s quite holster worn from duty use. I noticed your shots are going left and that seems to be a common issue.
Thanks so much. The course is not a KSP qualification. It’s from another large department in KY. My pistol does not have a logo, but S&W claims it was a KSP pistol. Any info you might be able to provide would be appreciated. In what year did KSP trade the 1076 on something else?
We transitioned to the Glock 35 in 2002-2003.
I have many friends in the Kentucky State Police and several of them bought their 10mm Smith pistols when they were switching from the Smith to the Glock 35. I'd be interested to find out about that number to see what county that gun went to.
That’s a terrible qualification. Being from Kentucky the state let’s each department make up their on qualification following certain guidelines and the 3 departments I have personally seen their qualifications none of them are even close to this. Also those 3 departments also have a separate night qualification course.
Yes sir! If you can't connect with the Target that way, it's a bad way to do it! It looks neat, but only shots that hit count! Yes sir I have to agree with you, the second you moved into a standard shooting position, all the bullets started hitting the center of the target. teaching someone to shoot the way they do in that first stage is not a good idea!
No, I don't think so either.
Have you done my states of Louisiana and Mississippi yet?
Yes, both of them are in the playlist.
@@hrfunk thank you chief.
Awesome shooting !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Jerry!
The low lighting is a good idea but I agree the “straight from the hip “ is for the cowboys- a good cop could get into trouble shooting that way! Good job
Thank you!
From a viewer's perspective I think I wold say that this CoF was to as interesting as some of the ones you've fired, but I do think it would have ben fun if you had shot the the two low-light stages at dusk. From personal experience, shooting in low light does add an extra level of challenge and I think it would have been worth a lower quality of video on those stages to see any impact on the scoring. Looking forward to you conclusions after No. 50.
Thanks Alan, maybe I'll come up with a good way to record a low-light stage in the future.
Kentucky LEO here. No indoor range, we have to come back at dark and run the night qual (low light as u said)
We had to do the same thing. Even so, I prefer outdoor ranges because they are so much more versatile when it comes to setting up dynamic courses.
The Department of Criminal Justice Training held a Eastern Kentucky University for all Kentucky Police departments with the exception of KY state police and Louisville only use double tap methods. The up close hip rock is done at arms length from the target. Low light shooting is done at night with only the lights of a cruiser going. Also a hogans alley type house shooting is done at night with flashlights. There is also a stress shooting running 1 mile then going through a combinations of target situations also done at night. They also use a F.A.T. system with various scenarios for shot reaction i.e. shoot don't shoot. This is the course I took in 1986 but I'm sure it has been updated from the course you have presented which seems to be very dated.
I agree. I does indeed seem dated. As I understand, however, this course is still used by at least one large department in KY.
@@hrfunk I agree even my department was using the old NRA standard course from the 50's. But the academy was at least using an up dated tactical course. Of which I had taken previously working private security assignments. But as far as I know all departments other than Louisville and the State police have their training at the DOCJT at EKU so that most all training is equal across the board other than what training and qualifications each individual departments have.
Thanks for the additional info!
Awesome Job HrFunk Happy Easter To You and The Family 😀😊👍🏼
Happy Easter to you too Chris!
Fairly challenging, nice job,I will add the 10 to my list of acceptable sidearms.....
Thanks Paul!
Interesting to be sure. Nice S&W 10mm. Enjoy this series.
Thank you!
I think MY state of Tennessee is one of the last 2? Or did I miss it? If I did I’ll try to look for it again if not, I’m looking forward to it! Im curious because I know some questionable marksman that are now police officers and it has made me wonder.
Nope, Tenessee was done previously. If you cant find it with a search, let me know and I'll send you a link.
Yeah that stage 1 did look more than a little Matt Dillonish. “Gunsmoke. Starring hrfunk as Matt Dillon”
Good video!
I always loved that show as a kid!
@@hrfunk I grew up seeing mostly the hour long color episodes on syndication. But I recently found I actually like the earlier half hour black and white episodes a lot more (got them on DVD). They are grittier, more real, not a lot of fill in dialogue and drama or modern social stuff. Matt is a lot rougher. The opening boot hill cemetery stroll with a monologue from a personal diary is s great effect. And, of course, loyal Chester.
Will be interested to see how this course scores on your matrix. I also agree that it is a bad idea to teach "hip-rock" from long distance. You might want to revise the matrix and add a category where you deduct points for encouraging poor practices or even negligence. You might also throw in a standard deduction for states that don't have a single standard.
That's not a bad idea, but I dont want to change the course scoring this late in the series.
Oh no, don't change mid stream, not matter how close to the bank you are. It being the duty of every Rando on the internet to create more work for the creator, I suggest that you redo the matrix and re-evaluate every course with the new criteria based on what you've learned. That's the nice thing about having it all on video.
Sorry I missed the premiere. Dead asleep. Did you get them Duke boys?
Ha, nope. They got away again.
Nice to see a 10mm in the mix. Pretty tough to shoot with one hand but too bad. I also didn’t care for “shooting from the hip”, especially from 5yds. Nice work though! Thanks for the video!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Hello, I Have enjoyed your videos, my question to you is, where did you get that holster made, I really like the look of it.
Thank you
Ted
The whole rig came from Triple K.
You recon Scott at ky ballistics tactical T. rex designed this course for those wild raptors run in round here.....?
Ha! Maybe!
Lookin good HR, sharp and in shape
Thanks Bruce!
Good review! I’m assuming this is the Louisville Metro Police firearms qualification course. They have an indoor facility obviously with the ability to handle low light scenarios. I’m not sure if it is used on all of the low light stages but they actually have flashing red and blue lights inside the range they can turn on to simulate shooting only with the red and blue lights from their patrol cars.
Thanks for the additional info!
I think after you complete all 50 courses of fire you should do videos similar to this one that covers different shooting drills such as “The Test” or “The Wizard Drill”
Another great video chief with one of my favorite pistols
I’m glad you liked it Jason!
That course was rather odd, but Kentucy....I'm just kidding, don't hate, all you Kentuckians! 😁 I'm liking that S&W 1076. Back in the day, I was eyeballing the Colt Delta Elite 10mm, and should have bought it, because it was No Where NEAR what they want for one now. Hindsight and all....imirite?? 😒
Yep, there are some that I should have bought when I had the chance (a certain 3" Model 624 comes painfully to mind), and others that I should have kept. Like you said, hindsight.
Hip rock should be done at the 3 yard line. At 3 yards I can see it's purpose but further out nope.
I agree. I thing it's actually more applicable at 3 feet.
for future low light and very low light coarses of fire how about using sunglasses and or welding shield for simulation?
Thanks Theodore. If you scroll down through the comments, you’ll see that I’ve addressed my reasons for not doing that in this video. Thanks for watching!
Wow, retention shooting outside of 3 yards? I did some low light shooting indoors in an IDPA competition, and decided to hold my flashlight next to my chin to light up my sights (I have a black rear sight and a red fiber-op front sight). Did, okay although the amount of smoke was surprising.
The problem I see with that is something called "target fixation." Under stress, your mind tends to focus on one thing in your field of vision that it perceives as the greates threat to your survival. This happens to bad guys just the same as it does with good guys. There have been cases where, under low light conditions, bad guys have shot at and actually hit an officer's flashlight. For that very reason, flashlight techniques have been developed to lessen that possibility. I woiuld personally not want to be holding a flashlight in front of any vital part of my anatomy.
been thinking about the 'hip rock' inference...perhaps it is a manuever of changing from 'squared off' full frontal stance to a 'side stance' by stepping back with your left foot and turning your body from full frontal to standing sideways; just a thought...
I can't come up with a good reason for it. Like I said in the video, it seems reckless and dangerous.
@@hrfunk you could easily rock a shot over the berm
Where did you get that gun leather? I really like the looks of your rig. I can't wait to see the final results of this video series. Good job, sir.
The rig is a “Wild K” made by Triple K. Thanks for watching!
I'm going to miss the States but looking forward to the Fed ABC soup courses.
Thanks Howard, another good video.
Ps, I wonder if this course wasn't designed for an indoor range 🤔
I'm not sure there was such a thing as an "indoor range" when this course was originally designed.
@@hrfunk hahaha!
That rifle qual course test….is it still in the cards chief or no?..I have a dressed out Daniel defense 16” 7.62 I’d love to see you run n a moderate range sniper type course…I’ve been loadin for it a yr now and got 7rds in.75” 175smk’s and can do headshots on steel at 500..I’m in eastern Ky and use 10mm & .308 alot…all kinds of predators round here..thanks brother matt…
I still want to do that, but I just haven't gotten around to it yet. That said, there's a difference between sniper qualification courses, and patrol rifle qualification courses. It sounds like you might be more interested in the former.
@@hrfunk yea but any knowledge I gain is much appreciated
A bent elbow technique at 5 yards? Wow. I wonder if there is a typo there and they meant 5 feet?
I wondered the same thing.
Sorry, a little late to the party here. I am a retired KSP detective. We did carry that firearm for a short time. ALL were marked with our logo. That is not our course of fire for qualification. The “hip rock” was an arm reach shot. Enjoy your channel, just wanted to clarify and defend the KSP course of fire. It was not what you used. I can send pics of my old duty weapon if you wish.
Steve
Thank you. I did the best I could when it came to deciphering these courses. Some were easier to figure out than others.
@@hrfunk I understand completely. Again, I enjoy your channel, just wanted to defend our training. KY has 120 counties. Probably 400 agencies. Most (I’m biased) believe that the KSP is the gold standard. In my last “job” I traveled the world carrying a firearm. I was completely comfortable with my level of training. Survival is a great yardstick. Keep up the good work. Steve
Thanks Steve. Take care and best of luck.
What holster and mag carrier is that? I'd like to get nice ones like those for my Kentucky issued 1076!
It's called the "Wild K". It's made by Triple K. Just FYI, it is made for a 1911, and it doesn't pefectly fit the 1076.
@@hrfunk It was actually your videos on the 1076 a few years ago that put me on the hunt for one. I got very lucky and found a pristine one for a very fair price.
Thanks again!
Love the Leo course video all of them
Thanks Maurice!
I suppose you've answered this question before, but I must've missed it: Who made that belt and holster? That's one good looking rig!
It’s a “Wild K” rig from Triple K.
If you please: What ammunition did you use? Did you check to see if this course was actually used? Did you practice the 5 yard rocking shot or shoot it entirely cold? What do you want to bet that a prior owner of your 1076 was left handed?
Ammunition was full power S&B 180 grain 10mm. The couse was sent to me by someone who is a member of the department that uses it. I did not practice the 15 foot "Hip Rock", I shoot all these courses cold. You may be right about the officer who carried this pistol.
@@hrfunk I think you should have allowed yourself to train the 15 foot shot as anyone who would have to qualify on it would. Or, at least, shoot a few "sighters". It is an unnatural shot to have to make. Thank you for your response. I have enjoyed this series. It must be getting redundant for you
I’m kind of glad to be nearing the end.
@@hrfunk I wish you would do it all again with just revolvers :)
Well, HR, I suspect the Kentucky qualification will not score well in your evaluation matrix . . . and (imho) it should not. I believe the first stage reinforces - and endorses - an unsafe firing practices, and that alone is sufficient for me to believe the course is unsatisfactory. Specifically, when a military and police trained tactical shooter of your experience, outstanding demonstrated abilities, and lengthy experience entirely misses his first two shots, it is a certain indicator (at least to me) that using that hip firing position poses a clear danger to the public. In essence, if you sent two 10mm rounds downrange after missing the target, what’s that 23 year old, who just competed the academy, and who was a personnel clerk in the USAF likely to do?
And that is the VITAL point. By including this stage in its qualification, the Commonwealth of Kentucky is unambiguously notifying its officers that it is okay to use this firing position. It isn’t, too many innocents might be hit . . .and law enforcement agencies - exactly like individual citizens - are fully accountable for every projectile fired.
You are absolutely correct Roy. One thing I should repeat, however, is this is not a state-wide course. It's a course from a local jurisdiction. A course that should really be revised.
With all due respect to Kentucky LEO Agencies, I certainly hope that their training staff revisit the COF standards!!
This one isn’t a state-wide mandated course. I agree, however, that the agency which does use this course should revise it.
Hey I bet you could use cutting goggles to simulate low light in the sun.
I thought about that, but since I'm really just demonstrating the course (not really qualifying), I thought this would work well enough.
I'm late to the party but I have a state qualification you had trouble finding. Let me know how to contact you.
Which state do you have?
@@hrfunk NY
@@fonix127 Thanks so much. I recorded a NY course some time ago.
Well this should qualify for strangest course.
Yep!
Is the KY LEO shooting qualification available in writing (online) anywhere? I've Googled and Googled, but to no avail. (I'm interested in developing a qualification course for a private concern in Kentucky, and I think the state's LEO qualification would be a good place to start.)
Not that I know of. That was one of the hardest ones for me to get. In the end, an agency firearms instructor from KY sent me the course I demonstrated in the video.
@@hrfunk Appreciate the reply.
Would wearing a dark lens hood like a welding helmet have simulated darkness?
Yes, but as I mentioned below, since I'm just demonstrating the course, and not actually qualifying, I thought this presentation worked well enough.
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Bizarre ,especially that first phase which could be evidence in a law suit if used on the street. Nothing else to say that you or others haven't covered.
Thanks Cleon. I agree.
I have all the Kentucky DOCJT state-wide quals on digits if you’d like me to send them to you.
Thanks, I mauy take you up on that.
What was the weapon for SC?
A Walter P1. Here’s a link to the video: czcams.com/video/AQS_5xu-yTA/video.html
IMHO worst course yet. Good content though. First time I've heard about innocent people shot because of negligent firing being mentioned on a you tube. Not many people, sometimes even within LEO communities, remember that you have to know what you're gonna hit when you miss- backstop. Great comments.
Thank you!
Thanks for the vid, but sorry, I don't like this course either ... As for the 15yd "hip rock" shooting, well, what can I say. I'm sure Matt Dillon & Quigly would have no trouble (ha,ha).
Yep, I’ve got to work on my western movie shooting technique.
@@hrfunk My apologies, I forgot to also note you can not shoot a semi-auto from the "hip rock" position. This must be done using a revolver.
So, grab your model 66, and start practizing
Have a great Easter ... "Bubba" over/out.
how is your new Job ???
It’s going well, thanks for asking.
The FBI 10 mili
Mine is not an FBI pistol. There are a couple of slight differences between it and the Bureau guns.
You should’ve done B roll of you actually shooting at night. Just to see how it looks. Just my opinion.
Maybe I'll try that in the future sometime.
@@hrfunk awesome shooting, btw. Despite the rear sight not being zeroed.
@@18wheeler77 Thank you!
Paul Harrel demonstrated a muzzle flash sight picture: czcams.com/video/jbqNzjzJcC4/video.html starts about 15:35. Geoff Who is a curious fellow.
@@geofftimm2291 Thanks Geoff. I’m familiar with the technique.
You can tell you were annoyed with this qualification course.
Someone else told me the same thing. Sorry if it wasn't entertaining to watch.
@@hrfunk No reason to be sorry. Still fun to watch. Great to see the 10mm in action as well.
Rookie mistake brother rookie mistake LOL get those sights fixed up LOL,,,,strange course indeed and yes very reckless to say the least with the shooting from the hip at that distance...I've been through the same type of drill in past years but it was done from contact distance from the holster to a max of about 3 yards from a low ready/retention position,,,but never from 15 yards that's just asking for stray shots causing harm to innocent bystanders or even a fellow officer possibly, I like the idea of low/no light but like you say it should be sepperated from the other course of fire,,,,the course should have also had more moving/barrier shooting elemenst as well as mag change elements to be more complete,,,,Oh well they make good whiskey in Kentucky so they might want to stick with that and maybe lay off of it a bit when designing shooting courses LOL,,,,take care brother LOL.
Ha! Thank you!
So based upon the speed rock, you have to account for two injured civilians and those lawsuits. I like the low light component but this is a bizarre course with no real logic.
I agree. I'm not a fan of this course (in case you couldn't tell)
Worst course yet in my opinion......
I can’t disagree with you.