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- The Oldsmobile 4-4-2 (also known as the 442) is a muscle car produced by Oldsmobile between the 1964 and 1987 model years. Introduced as an option package for US-sold F-85 and Cutlass models, it became a model in its own right from 1968 to 1971, spawned the Hurst/Olds in 1968, then reverted to an option through the mid-1970s. The name was revived in the 1980s on the rear-wheel drive Cutlass Supreme and early 1990s as an option package for the new front-wheel drive Cutlass Calais.
The "4-4-2" name (pronounced "Four-four-two") derives from the original car's four-barrel carburetor, four-speed manual transmission, and dual exhausts [1][2][3] (Some maintain that the '2' indicated a limited-slip differential). It was originally written "4-4-2" (with badging showing hyphens between the numerals),[1] and remained hyphenated throughout Oldsmobile's use of the designation. Beginning in 1965, the 4-4-2s standard transmission was a three-speed manual along with an optional two-speed automatic and four-speed manual, but were still badged as "4-4-2"s. Because of this change, from 1965 on, according to Oldsmobile brochures and advertisements, the 4-4-2 designation referred to the 400 cubic inch engine, four-barrel carburetor, and dual exhausts. By 1968 badging was shortened to simply "442", but Oldsmobile brochures and internal documents continued to use the "4-4-2" model designation.
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The '68-'72's were, hands-down, some of the greatest American cars ever built.
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You have to wonder if traction was a crippling issue back then. Looking at those thin tires on the 500 pounds of torque 442. Imagine what it could do with today's 305 rubber in the rear.
GM A Body is the basketcase for legends: Chevelle SS, Buick GS, Pontiac GTO, and Oldsmobile 442.
Of the 68-72s, I def like the 68 best, but I think the 73-7 442s were the best looking. The only issue with them, is the same issue as all 70s cars … lack of power… which is a very easy fix, esp since most people would be doing some kind of restoration, incl an engine rebuild, anyway.
If I were to buy one, Id restore it cosmetically, but do a full-on mechanical restomod, as if the horsepower wars had never ended… more power, fuel injection, overdrive transmission, better suspension, better steering, bigger brakes, bigger rims/tires…
Amen to that brother.
The '68-'72's were, hands-down, some of the greatest American cars ever built. Everything about them was right!
Amen to that brother.
As a child of the 80's, I really like the G-Body Cutlass. The Monte Carlo, Pontiac and Regal are great too.
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I had 3 at one time. 1967 was my first. Had a bench seat with a automatic on the column. 1969 was my 2nd. This one had a 4 speed. The clutch was so strong if I were at a long light or stuck in traffic I had to put it in neutral or my leg would shake and cramp. My favorite was my 1970 W30 convertible. Talk about power. Came with a Hurst duel gate shifter. I was sold during a test drive with the owner. While going 55 and shifting he put the pedal to the floor and it turned the wheels over. I was at the bank the next day. Loved that car.
I love hearing people mention numbers like 55mph! Really gives you a feel of what fast was at the time
Those his and hers shifters were awesome.
Born out of the 442 came the HURST OLDS.
One of the best and fastest ever built.
445 CID it gave the HEMI and the 440 Dodges and Plymouths to look at as the HURST pulled away from them
My friend had one and the Dodges plus the Plymouth couldn't beat him on a street drag.
Not taking anything away from the Dodges nor the Plymouths, they were and still are great cars.
My very first car. 1969 Olds Cutlass. Didn't have the 442 optioned car though. Mine was a 350 cid Supreme model. She was a great car. Pearl white exterior with blue interior. Beautiful!
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I had one of those 1968 442 Oldsmobile 4spd love it 😀
I was always told the 442 stood for four speed, four barrel, and dual exhaust.
Yea unfortunately they didn’t stick with that for long..
That was in 1964 only.
All patients of the good Dr. Oldsmobile know that this is the proper definition of 442 . Automatics were for wimps !
I had a '70 Cutlass for a short time, loved that 442esque body style. Super comfortable to drive, a real cruiser. It only had the 350cid but still got out of its own way.
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I got a 1968 Supreme with 350 project car and i am surprised the size is not too bulky, it is so easy to drive and cruising the freeway is a bliss. Now I know why the GM A bodies are so popular and well loved.
My favorite year is the 1984, 85...but i like the color combo of last one 87. My great aunt had a burgundy over silver one. Loved that car
My parents had a ‘68 442 with the 400 rather than the 455 when I was very young. I remember seeing that car later at a local cruise-in a couple years after my parents sold it.
Later on, I bought a ‘68 GTO as my first car, and worked for a local Chevelle / El Camino resto parts shop, “Gold Eagle Classics” for a summer before college.
There’s something about those ‘68-‘72 semi-fastback A Bodies that just looks great.
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The 455 was only put in the Hurst /Olds in '68-'69 . The 442s had the 400 until 1970 .
I had a 1968 Cutlass Supreme with a 455ci from a Vista Cruiser. it was blue/white top with the faux spray on vinyl top. and white interior/black dash/carpet. it was a pretty good car and fairly fast. but it was no 4 4 2. the W 30 was the badass one of the bunch. always liked Oldsmobiles I was disappointed when GM dropped the nameplate.
super unfortunate they couldn’t bring their exciting cars to a new generation of domestic muscle fans.
A '70 442 which had been hiberrating in a garage for twenty years , found me ten years back. It was a rust free dual gate, A/C, 8 track, complete with the Van Nuys tank sticker. I rebuilt the engine and transmission and always enjoy the torque monster. I purchased a 26K mile 1979 Hurst Olds some years back but never really appreciated the G body. Should have kept it, it was an original pristine survivor. I have always had a fondness for the Colonade body, the 1975 was perfection IMO. Thanks for posting.
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I myself really like Cutlass 's I have had them from the year's 67 ,70, 72, 85 . Keep up with Great work. ✌😎
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GM had so many cars with that same platform. The Olds 442 which was a Souped up Cutless. The Buick Stage 2 which was a souped up Skylark. The GTO which was a souped up Tempedt. The Chevrolet Chevelle.
I don't care what anybody says, the W30 twin scoop hood is absolutely the best looking hood ever made!, but my personal favorite year for the 442 is without question the 69, it has to be a 4 speed and not a Hurst, one of the sexiest body styles ever penned!
Absolutely ! The ‘69’s were like sculpture - beautiful, clean, understated, the long stroke 400 was an excellent street engine, and with the W-30 option was competitive in the upper stock classes of that era.
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My sister had a classmate in the graduating class of 1967 who was the daughter of a rather well to do man in our southwestern New York rural area. Gail Meyers was a very attractive 5’ 11” blonde.
For a graduation present unsurprisingly her parents bought her a car. She could chose any Buick or Olds she wanted. You guessed it an Olds , 442, white with red interior, convertible as I recall. She drove it for a very short time that fall then wisely stored it for the winter.
Gail was a bit different beautiful young lady in our area. She had a need for speed!!!! In the spring she brought out her basically new 442 with a few small changes. A set of Keystone wheels wrapped with an appropriate set of tires and a gear upgrade.
My big sister’s best friend was street racing one of the best looking cars and almost always winning!! and I got to wash it, a lot 🤔🤩
Oh those good old days.
1968...my family had one...but I look at later models and damn, nearly all of them have some hot lines...just a great vehicle w/ a cool history. Oldsmobile, I miss you...
The Oldsmobile 442 is an iconic muscle car of the sixties!!!
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I owned a 70 442 W-30 gold with black stripes… Gorgeous gorgeous car but 6 mpg and gas prices over 1.30 plus a gallon and cigs are .60 cents a pack and I made 1.80 an hour … never lost a race in it… just couldn’t afford to keep gas init … thanks jimmy carter…
The 1970 is definitely the one to get.
Yep you got it.
Peak year!!!!
Might as well stop with 1972 prior to the erosion of a once great muscle car. I was born in 1963 and my dad always bought Olds. Back in the day Olds meant Luxury, style and power! What great cars they were...
I gotta say that 1985 edition, shown here, with the big, white-lettered tires and opera windows, is a beautiful machine.
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I’ve always loved the cutlass. 442 on top of that body made it so much more droolable.
For years I’ve tried to nail down a favorite. I love the 72…. The 76 was a beautiful car (the cutlass with the waterfall grill may be as close to perfect aesthetically as any one car ever could… the smaller ones going into the 80’s was a beauty, and that 86 model was one of the sharpest cars of the day.
I briefly had a 79 with the turd 260 in it. It would boil the right rear… but once it hooked up it was slower than a Honda Civic. Was still damn sexy being black on red.
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Another great video! It was interesting watch and see the changes. I enjoyed all you shared. Great footage as well. I hope there will be a part 2 just like for the Pontiac Grand Prix video. I know what 442 you are referring to that was not featured. I was glad to see the video go through the 1980's..
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My oldest brother had a 1968 442 in the early 70s that was light golden brown with a black vinyl top. Riding in the back seat of it as a kid i could swear it felt like the car was shifting under the seat below! Haha!
My favorite 442 was the 1973 Colonade body style, it had that rare mix of styling and performance. But my generation loves the 1987 G body 442 Cutlass. I think I'm right on that.
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Back when my parents were dating, my dad had a 69 442. He sold it to take my mom to Europe.
I noticed in the video, when showing that last 442, there was a Grand National in the background and I thought it's a shame they didn't put the turbo V-6 in the 80s 442. Would have been a bad ass ride.
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That was very good. We (my Dad) didn't have a 4-4-2, but we had an 81 Calais 'Sport'. Cutlass rims. Full dash gauges, two tone. Yeah it was a V6 but still a sweet car.
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My old girlfriend had a 442. It was a beast. Just idling through parking structures it would set off car alarms. Good times.
Great video, it brings back a lot of good memories.
My first new car. 1969. Best looking model of them all.
Had A 72 Cutlass S. All time favorite car I've owned.
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Those mid 60s Olds will always have a special place in history
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Correction. At the beginning of the video at the 17 second mark, it advertises a 1964 Oldsmobile 442 when in reality it’s a 1965 442. The 1964 model did not have that little notch behind the passenger and driver side doors.
Love this channel!!! Its the best!!! I had a bunch of 1970 cutlass supreme. An sx 455, 442 455 automatic, w-31 350!!! Plain Jane 350. All where fast. The sx would Barry the speedometer. At least 120 mph!!!
I added Thrush pipes and a holly 4 barrel so it went past 120 mph and likely over 130 mph
I really love the 73 cutlass for a restomod project love the taillights on 73
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I have a 79 Cutlass Supreme with the 260 V8. I drove it in my late teens in college. I put headers on it but it was still pretty anemic but it did sound good. It also had a set of Goodyear Eagles on it that were "technically" to wide for it but never rubbed. The car could take a lot of corners it shouldn't have because of all that contact to the ground. It's not running now and sits in a barn. One of these days I'll maybe revisit that car and see what can be done to bring it back to life. Maybe make a fake 442 out of it, who knows.
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My Pop had a 1967 when he graduated from college (brand new).
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Fabulous and thank you. Huge fan from New Zealand. Bliss to have the history, and wait for the last one, Targa top I think, and fall in love again. 442's are magnificent.
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My Uncle had the Hurst Version ( body like one in thumbnail) sitting in Grandpas yard for years. Mint Condition, Never covered and in Minnesota. From the Factory, it came with Strips, Not Racing Strips but 4 or more Candies Gold Strips over the whole car. Less than 20,000 on it. When I turned 16 back in 1990 I wanted to but it. "You are too Irresponsible and it's too much car for you and and and....".. Grandpa and Uncle sold it to my Cousin instead.
Fresh out of Auto Tech School for $500... Took him like 2-3 months to get it up and Running, then Gutted the interior to put Speakers in it. 4 months owning it, was next to a guy in a built out Mustang at a stop light.... Rolled it 4 or 5 times and wrapped it around a pole... And I am the one who was told was "too irresponsible"..
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Hope your cousin was ok
@@javierherrera7276 Yeah he was okay. Only thing that happened was he got a permanent slightly bent Pointer finger on his left hand he can't bend. Started driving a little more responsible after that also.
The 68 442 is my dream car. I am closing in on 60 and this is the car I love.
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had the 69 blue mist hurst olds w/30. yup, it had a vertical gate shifter and black spoiler, it was blue mist and FAF...
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I had a '69 442 with the W-30 package on the Olds 350 small block. That was an excellent automobile.
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I don’t think a 350 was available in the 442 that year.
@@SLJ2137694 he may have had a F85 , W30 with the 350 engine but a '69 42 was 400 powered .
@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 442 didn’t come with a 350 that year.
@@SLJ2137694 if you actually read my post , you would see that I said exactly that . The 1965 thru 1969 Olds 442s came with 400 engines . F85s did not .
Those 70 442s even beat the mighty LS6 Chevelle SS. Only difference was that Chevy did a lot more advertising, think of that Oldsmobile the top muscle car of 1970.
The video is nice other than me being an owner of the 1964 Cutlass 442 (B-09 police aprehender package) seeing a 1965 on the screen when you have the 1964 statement under it in the first shot. There was not a ‘64 442 option or model to order. It was a package,B-09 That had a 4gc carb, m-20 4 speed dual exhaust with a one year only dual snorkel air cleaner on top of a 330cu 310hp motor…. Please feel free to ask me any questions.
They are so rare one could not be found for the video lol.
Mine was a 1969 400 c.i. 3 speed Hurst manual transmission, yes 3 speed manual. Then traded up to the 1971 455 c.i. W30 BUT THE 69 WAS MY FAVORITE 💯💔
I had a 70 olds cutlass s. Bucket seats, cragar mags. I was very young and so was that car. I loved that car. Dummy me sold that car for 800 dollars. Wish I had it now.
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I had a 1968 cutlass Supreme with a 350 and a 2 speed power glide automatic transmission loved the car also had a 1969 cutlass Supreme 350 with a 3 speed automatic transmission personally I liked the body style of the 69 better then the 68 but that 2 speed power glide transmission was a strong transmission...really wish I had a 1969 442
my first car was a 67 cutlass supreme w the 330 cu in engine and powerslide tranny I blew up the 330 put a 73 350 w 350 turbo trans and it was much much much more fun to drive than the old powerslide was for obvious reasons I actually broke the yoke on the rear end in half neutral dropping it lol paid 200 bucks for that car in 1983 and had it a few years sold it to an older guy I was good friends with and he helped me other projects as well rip popeye love ya buddy
72/73 was the last good year. 68/71 were the best. There appears to be a 1970s sitting down the road from me rusting away for years. Has the spoiler too.
I Always Love The 442 W30.
4 barrel. 4 speed. Dual exhaust. I knew this at age 13
The last 442 was a 1990-1991 Cutlass Calais Quad 442. But of course Dodge had come out with the Spirit R/T which was a beast compared....And I may add that Shelby got his hands on that Dodge too..
Had a 1968. Loved it! Wish I still had it.
My favorite was 1970 442 my first car I had a 1971 f85 with a 350 rocket and auto transmission loved that car Oldsmobile are my favorite muscle cars
The 442’s are pretty cool, but I think my favorite of the lineup are the 1969 W-30 442’s, those hood scoops make it look sinister especially in black (at least imo). No clue if they were genuine but I saw some w-30 442 wagons on mecum auctions a few months ago, did Oldsmobile actually make those or were they tributes or something?
I luv that 442 four barrel four speed ,wuth dual exhaust.
My buddy had one, it would chirp the tires when you floored it, fun to drive
I owned a 1972 442, 455 with the 308* cam & hood scoops for many years. The only bad feature of it was the gas mileage, but then again I really didn't give a s______ about that.
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That convertible 442 is gorgeous, though I admit the GTO is my all-time favorite.
I had a 72 olds cutlass s with a 350 rocket but replaced it with a 70 455 rocket and put disk breaks on the front and replaced the rear springs with springs out of a 70 ford pickup witch made more down force on the rear-end and gave more traction to the rear then I added headers and slapped on a holly 650 double pumper by the time I was done I was pushing about 600 horse and 10s inches quarter mile 😮😮 god she was fast I miss her
My dad had a 66 Olds 442 with the optional tri power..4speed..red with black interior..and in 69 ..he ordered a 70 Olds W30 442..4 speed…W 27 rear..373 gears..Matador red with black interior…both cars had poverty caps..as he said it didn’t make it go faster…!!!!
Your Dad was a very smart man ! 2 of the finest 442's you could own !
The 442 means 4 barrel carburetor, 4 speed manual transmission, and dual exhausts
One of my favorite cars
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Great !!! I can dig this.
Thumbnail nail example is perfect. The '68 was always my fave and if one looks close, we see the W30 badge. i sorta know these.
I bought a '69 Charger (383 Mag, 727, SureGrip) for $750 in '77. Yeah, not perfect but fun.
'80, i'm out for a spin. StopLight derby with an Old's 'Cutlass'.
About even then the passenger in the Olds starts laughing.
Grabs a gear and blows me away !
See the W30 badge on the trunk....Grab a Hot Rod mag i had devoted to muscle cars.
This was a 455 ! I didn't stand a chance.
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As a child of the 60s and 70s I always loved the Oldsmobile lineup. I guess most of the GM car's were 😎 but my favorite was the Cutlass in all its forms ❤😊🤜🤛🤜🤛.sad to see though 1978 spelled the end of every American car supremacy 😢
I love the 77 model. I have one with a 403.
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Four speed four barrel dual exhaust!
I had no idea the 442 had such a long run.
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My neighbor a single mother sold her 69’ 442 convertible, that was in perfect condition for an uninformed $2300. If I had known it was being sold I would of snapped it up in an instant.
Just found one in my barn in NC of my uncles, parked 32 years ago with 23,000 miles
I own a '68 F-Eighty-Five and my favorite car is the 1968 Hurst/Olds!!!🏁
Love the look of the 1968!!!
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4 barrel 4 speed and duel exhaust is what it started at. Answered before I watched
Hey bros, always love the 442, great looks and sporty interiors, thanks for the video, pick me for a shirt!
Thanks Charles!!!!
Cut to the chase:
4-barrel carb
4-speed transmission
2 (dual) exhaust
Initially an option on the F85 coupes, sedans, and wagons.
Now I know what "442" originally stood for. Thanks!
Back in 1990, I drove a red 1967 442 convertible a few times. It was a big deal to see one way back then too.
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For me the 65 and 67. Great video......
I had a 1968 442 with W30 package ,the thing at 60 mph would vibrate and later found out the engine had a defective crankshaft ,also had a electronic ignition that broke after the warranty expired .
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Sorry but the 4 4 2 always stated as 4-barrel carb
4-speed transmission
2- exhaust
I really don't know where you got your facts from but they are wrong I've had a '64 442 that was called a B-09 option that was a 4-door sadan police package and only 10 were built. the to door did not come out till '65
Yeah....the 1964 Cutlass did have a 442 BUT you fail to mention that the 442 was its own model
Nothing wrong with those 80s G bodies that another 75 horsepower wouldn’t have fixed. Great looking too
How is it that cars used to be so beautiful, and now they look like something that needs to go into a dumpster straight from the factory. I don't think anything has gone downhill nearly as much during the past 50 years as cars.
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I never quite understood why the Cutlass retained the pointy back windows of '68 and '69 through '72 when Chevy and Buick ( Pontiac never did have the pointy back windows ) went with the more squared off back window starting in 1970.
OLDSMOBILE FROM 68 - 72 HAD THE FASTBACK BODY STYLE OR 70 - 72 OFFERED THE SQUAREBACK BODY STYLE MAINLY FOR STANDARD CUTLASS AND CUTLASS SUPREME .
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Because the Olds rear side windows look better.
The 1970 Buick GSX 455 Stage 1 was the best GM usage of the 455 during the limited years it was produced!
That is the car that spawned the, " Not my old man's Buick" slogan, and as far as I'm concerned, Buick should do a retro version of the GSX, and the entire Skylark line to bring them back into direct competition with both Chevrolet & GM, and the Ford MUSTANG pony car/muscle cars we see retro every year!
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The 68 is my favorite 442
Kinda disappointed you didn’t include the FWD ones. But as you said “be covered in a later video”. Great info.
Fav was the 1970 442.
That black 68 is what dreams are made of but the inside should also be black as well and then im at full staff sir,i had a 68 cutlass black on black and hate myself daily for losing it.
Very informative. Great job!!
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I had a 1976 442 it's was faster than people think stock!!!!!!
Four-for-two is like two-for-one, only twice as good.
Okay before I watch, here's what I heard. First 442 package stood for four barrel, four speed, dual exhaust and came equipped with a 340 ci V8 cause in 1964 when it was introduced that engine size was the largest displacement GM allowed in mid-size bodies. At Pontiac Delorean cheated and used a 383 ci in a Tempest mid-sized for the GTO package and was about to get reprimanded until the higher ups saw the sale figures for GTO. They then upped the displacement limit to 400 ci for all mid-sized. The limit stayed there till 1970.
64 had a 330ci but you're correct on the other info 👍