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Pawn on b2: “How shall we win, sire?”
King: “I shall sacrifice your friends and then dance in circles around you, trampling their bodies.”
🤣🤣🤣
So the whole point of the king's adventure was to get rid of the pawn on g3. Nice! :)
It's like a grob gambit at the end
White king move away
That's half of it. The other half is using the surviving pawns to block one of the rook's avenues for checking your king.
Normally, black has two options to put you in check each turn -- one horizontal move and one vertical -- which prevents you from forcing the rook to go to the square you need it on. But at the end, the vertical move doesn't work because your pawn blocks the check. So black has to take the horizontal move, allowing your rook to take it for the win.
This puzzle should be called "the butterfly effect". A small wrinkle in the past makes all the difference in the future.
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the genre is called "rambling rook" by Tim Krabbe. or the "mad piece" in Russian
It is like playing Mario Maker with some level designed to have a lot of deja vus.
@@coryt93 correct💯
I wasn't able to solve it until you moved at 4:25, then it became clear. very clever puzzle
So proud i immediately noticed the solution once the g pawn was taken! Makes me feel good about myself, despite being a very average 1300 rated player :D
Awesome!
My first thought was take the rook :( I'm stupid lol
@@Voltage-rs7op yes you are
I am not sure if me as an 900 player should call 1300 average..........
I found it
I'm 300
Thank you for the little happiness I feel whenever I see you make a puzzle video
From the story I have heard about this puzzle, it was shown in some tournament and only John Nunn solved it in a few seconds.
This is actually a cool study (assuming it is). When you were practicing ideas I actually saw the winning motif after Rxg3+. In these kind of huge material plus stalemate problems, a rook on h3 is never random 😁
That was a very clever puzzle. Thanks for showing it!
So proud of myself, paused at the beginning and stared for 20 minutes and solved it move for move. Key is since black rook can always put you in check and you can't take because of stalemate, when you finally take the rook it must also put black king in check(mate). Only way is for your rook to do that, and on a3. So then you have to plot a route for the king to remove the g pawn and then get back to the a-file without the black rook cutting you off, and force it a3.
This study was shown to me by grandmaster Ljubomir Ljubojevic (at that time a master's candidate) 60 years ago. Since that study was composed in honor of the Winter Olympic Games, the name of the study was "Royal Giant Slalom".
yeah, I've seen this puzzle before somewhere, but I just remembered the solution involved the king running around. I actually saw the solution like 2 minutes in. It is possible to find the solution purely based on the process of elimination. Your idea of king running to d8 will never work simply because of the rook checking on the 7th rank. Gradually you'll see the Ra3 idea and from there it's just a piece of cake. It's a really cool puzzle though, thanks for sharing!
I saw your comment that the idea is with the a3 rook in the middle of the video, the realization suddenly and almost instantly hit me on how to get the mate, and then I was just dying half-laughing throughout the rest of the video because Nelson was *so close* but he didn't think about the rook just like me.
tons O' fun
Yeah he even said is this rook going to do anything 🤣 and procede to move the king everywhere but e2
A trick with these puzzles btw, is to understand that all of the pieces are there for a reason, especially with so few pieces on the board and you just need to think creatively on how to use them
From the beginning I was thinking the white rook would go through the pawn’s place and when he moved the first pawn move I saw it
I actually managed to solve this one and felt quite proud of myself. Good puzzle.
I rarely solve the puzzles that you do; but, this time I solved it! I thought for sure you would see it when you started weaving the king back...
That's one of the most inventive puzzle ive seen, insane!
Ring around the rosie...
Fantastic puzzle, very fun watch.
AMAZING!!! You were incredibly close Nelson, and, sure enough, the white rook was a key player.
You had the right idea, the follow through is 18 moves later, kinda hard to see that far forward. GG
Fun puzzle. I saw the zig-zag pattern immediately, followed by the fact that the rook needed releasing. The rest fell into place naturally. Clever patterns like this are what makes chess so timelessly unique.
I'm proud to say I figured it out before you showed stockfish, creative puzzle!
Hey I have a puzzle I made myself, I don't know if it too impressive but there is only 1 solution basically. White to play and win:
White: Pawns on: a4 b3 c2
Knight: a1
Rook: b2
King: e8
Black: Pawns on: a5 a2 b4 c3
King: e2
Btw if you change the rook to a Bishop there is still a fascinating drawing line.
Fascinating indeed
Interesting puzzle, although it’s solution is the only rational move though. It’s a nice optical trick because one might think blacks pawns are so close to queening but he has to remove all the defenders and pawns before doing so and in the end comes up a move short of queening first.
I think it’s a pretty decent idea, but it needs more elements to really make it a good thinker of a puzzle
@@alekhinesgun9997 yeah the problem with it is that the moves are kinda obvious. But I want to point out that black actually does get a queen right after white does, white has to give some precise check in order to trade the queens according to where black kig moves and win with the remaining pawn
@@BorisGamingChannel Yeah ik black queens right after white, that's why I said black comes up a move short from queening first.
I think to make the puzzle better you'll have to add a not so obvious forcing line to get you to the position of the current puzzle you have now. Because the puzzle you have now is all really forcing and relies basically on the participants ability to calculate, which is totally good, but it'd be even better to make them find a good move or two first that aren't obvious and then take them into the trenches of deep calculation so you have both a part of the puzzle that tests your ability to correctly evaluate the right first sequence of not so obvious moves, and then tests your ability to calculate it the whole way through, yknow what I mean? Imo that way it'd be a complete puzzle, testing both ability to evaluate and find the correct moves, and also test how deep you're able to calculate. That way you get the best of both worlds
love this puzzle!!!
I thought if the zigzag pattern in my head, but I didn’t see the second part of the idea until I saw you do the first part, proud of myself for this one
I had the same thought process as Nelson! At 2:55 I considered e3 and c3. Although I didn't have a board to explore.
5:00 at this point, move White king to A2, Black rook will check at A3, then use white rook to take black rook for checkmate
Have you ever seen anything about Lewis Carrols Chess puzzle in “Alice Through the Looking Glass” book? Very interesting! Would love to see you cover the 11 move puzzle with the phantom piece rules
I remember this puzzle from my youth in the eighties of the 20th century. The purpose was to illustrate mad rook. If I remember things well, black can postpone the mate one move more, by capturing the pawn at c7 and sacrificing at c8.
Nice! I got the idea once I saw that presence of your pawns mean that the rook only has one move to keep checking you. In an empty space the rook can choose to keep checking on the row or the column so you can't force it to go where you want it to.
I've seen this puzzle before, and the answer is this:
Step 1: Play e3 to block the check. Black will then have to play Rxe3+ to avoid giving White the chance to queen any of his pawns because the only good alternative for Black is Rf8, which gives White a chance to push his pawns forward and checkmate Black by promoting them to queens.
Step 2: Block again with c3. Black will once again have to take the pawn with check for the same reason and thus will have to play Rxc3+.
Step 3: Start fleeing from the black rook's checks with Ka2. What will then follow is a suicidal king-hunting journey made by the black rook where neither side captures a piece until move 7 of the exchange. Black's best follow up to Ka2 is Ra3+, which should then be followed by this exchange if both sides play at their their best:
1. Kb1 Ra1+
2. Kc2 Rc1+
3. Kd3 Rc3+
4. Ke2 Re3+
5. Kf1 Re1+
6. Kg2 Rg1+
7. Kf3 Rxg3+
8. Ke2 Re3+
9. Kd1 Re1+
10. Kc2 Rc1+
11. Kb3 Rc3+
12. Ka2 Ra3+
Step 4: Play Rxa3#.
Aww, I saw it at 4:40. By just zig-zagging back you'd force the rook to check you at a3, delivering the finishing blow with your own rook. Awesome puzzle =)
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THIS IS SUCH A GOOD PUZZLE
Great puzzle!
I feel like in this puzzle moving your king randomly over the board without an idea is counter-productive.
I solved it by first noticing that moving king up to last rank doesn't achieve anything. It took me a few minutes to see that if rook were on a3 that would be a checkmate. After that it was fairly straightforward, what i needed to do with the pawns.
I actually chuckled, when I found the solution, I think it's funny how king makes laps around the pawns.
Wow. Really excellent puzzle
7:03 moment of realization :)
Ah, a clearance sacrifice. Excellent video, by the way.
I saw this on chess for charity, quite cool
I solved it in about a minute but I knew the pattern, as I saw this puzzle's transposition few years ago and expected the king's walk and getting rid of some pawns. Thank you for reminding me about this gem! 🙂
I think there was some puzzle with similar idea and more stuff on the board, but it was the Queen doing a walk (zig-zagging?) forth and back (multiple times?) to win a tempo each time, then eventually clean the position enough to allow the checkmate... but I can't remember how the position looked like.
Anyone maybe knows what known puzzle it can be?
e3 after takes c3 then run around in a zigzag with the king untill the rook is in front of the of the king on the a file and then take with your rook and mate the position is a mate in 18 it didnt feel that hard to find i had my first plan was to get my king to g2 and after i did that on the board i realized how to win
At the end, I noticed when the rook move some where on the same row, it will actually be stalemate
Wow! I actually saw one before Nelson!
I saw the idea right away, first sacking the pawns and moving zigzag back to a2, but somehow managed to forget that the rook was now free to move and had to check the final move with the engine :D
There's a more insane one I cannot find again if anyone knows. A chess master meets an alien and teaches them chess. They learn fast and never break a rule. The master explains pawn promotion and says 'you can promote to any other piece.' The alien promotes two pawns and asks to be given extra kings. The master then plays a single move that checkmates all 3 kings simultaneously.
nice,
also liking the self-try
I almost had it but I kept giving the d pawn as well and blacks checks werent forced as he had options. I couldnt calculate if it works that way due to having so many variations.
i saw the idea when you were at the 4:49 position and i opened lichess immediately to check it
ah i saw this puzzle on an another channel before watching this, the puzzle was insane
Found it (without stockfish), so feel good.
What a fun puzzle!
Didn't solve it but I got it that the finish condition was having the rook threatening the enemy king.
I didn't figure it out but then as soon as you opened up the rook I figured it out that you had to force him to check you on the a-file so you can take the rook.
Hey Nelson, I have a chess puzzle for you.
*White:*
Knight C6
King B3
Bishop A1
Pawn E7
Pawn H5
Rook C1
*Black:*
King E8
Queen G3
*White to play and win*
Edit: I have tested this puzzle with Stockfish, and it is indeed solvable. I just wanna see if Nelson can solve it.
Stockfish says that white is in a winning position but not Mate in X.
Am I missing something?
@@andreas_steininger I think you have to go along with what top moves Stockfish recommends for both White and Black, it'll only then say mate in x when you're close to actually delivering the mate.
@@benprescott9217 alright I understand.
If you want to test it, here is the FEN: 4k3/4P3/2N5/7P/8/1K4q1/8/B1R5 w - - 0 1
bruh this was so awesome puzzle!
It took me like a half an hour but I solved it. I got as far as you did, and got stuck. I thought if I used the rook to block once it was free and use a free move promote to queen, Id win. That idea didn't work but then I saw the solution as I moved the king around the pawns. A very beautiful puzzle.
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I thought you were going to solve it once you maneuvered the pawns. I wouldn't have solved it if you hadn't mentioned the winning idea with the pawns capturing the rook so if nothing else you can take credit for steering me in the right direction. This was a fun puzzle and your channel is always full of interesting puzzles and chess content.
I thought the point was to make the rook's only possible checking position d8. Then you can take with the pawn and it's checkmate.
insane adventure
i instantly realized there was an idea of getting the rook either on h8 or a3. Couldnt find out how to do it tho
Here's a cool puzzle I saw some 30 years ago: BK1k4, PPNP4, 2Pb4, 1R1P1P2, 1P6, N7, 2Q2RP1, 6B1
White still has all his pieces while black has only a lone bishop. However, black is threatening Bxc7 mate!
The question is: what is the outcome of the game with optimum play?
My guess before watching the video: King to a2. Black cannot move the pawn or the king. Black’s only move is to move the rook. Whatever Black does, White’s next move is Rook to h8 with check. Black again cannot move the king or the pawn and is in check, so Black’s only move is to block with the rook, and after that, white rook takes black rook is a win for White.
I recognized the first half, messed up the second half
I had one game from the atari chess version that might be interesting to solve, the king was captured but the computer kept playing without the king, the queen was the last piece to capture, I had 1 bishop, 4 queens and 1 king, solve the puzzle and capture the queen. You will find it interesting.
perhaps a way of solving this is to try to find a winning position and then work out how to get there. also did black have to put undefended rook in that position.
I saw this first in John walker’s book Test Your Chess: Piece Power
If you don't know if it's won or not then it can be hard to see it. But since we know win is possible then start from thinking of all possible checkmate points. That gives: c8, d8, Rh8, Ra3. And it's fairly quick to deduce that c8, d8, Rh8 is never going to happen. This leaves Ra3, this you start looking for ways to rid of blocking pawn and then it's not so hard to see it.
I couldn't see it, but I suspected it had something to do with that pawn on g3.
The guy is a genius.
Question is, where did he get this puzzle from? One of most amazing puzzles I've ever seen. If I'm up a point with a round to go, 50/50 I take the draw, not so if I'm easily winning in the final round.
I first saw it approx 38 years ago in a book: Test Your Chess: Piece Power.
I am so proud of myself. I am around 500-600 elo, but I think I figur it out. sacrify e and c pawn. Than run around b, d, f point. Than you loose g point and big finaly. Run around f, d, b and take with rook.
But to be fair... i sew ending after you point out, that there is rook (at that moment I realize that I do not need it to mate in first place, so she has to do something).
6:35 Stockfish say now play black Re8, what?
...Re8
g4 Re1+
(Same idea what is in video)
7:03
Now black play Rxc7 and Rh8+ mate ends. This is mate in 18.
I looked myself and you seemed to miss a few end moves like what if rook instead of checking takes pawn on c7, then white goes h8 check black then blocks c7 with rook white then takes and delivered the check on c8. How the puzzle was meant to finish
for some reason after king f1 the rook goes e8 when I play this against stockfish
Wow that's clever, I wouldn't solved that either lol
The first move is e3 then c3
Unfortunately, if the rook falls back to the upper line, you have to make a forced bad move, so that checkmate doesn't work
I was thinking like you, was also distracted by the idea of how to get the black rook to d8 or c7 without the king being at c8 (stalemate), AND I thought (probably like you) that the only purpose of the white rook was to threaten h8, thereby enforcing black to check every move, and therefore I missed the idea that the white rook could checkmate not only on h8 but also on a3! So simple once you see the solution. 😆
4:30 in this minute i saw the solve
If you took the rook it would just be mate
The pawn is the g3 was the whole game.
I understood the idea at 5:16 very crazy
Thats why the random rook is there
I'm actually happy I got this :)
When it takes thinking 18 perfect moves ahead probably removes any human from solving it.
I like that too
the rook could still force draw by taking material
But what if black rock takes white rock?
Ah. Ok. then white pawn becomes a queen and it is a checkmate.
I had seen the idea with c3 after a few minutes, but I gave up and run the video. As soon as the move e3 was suggested I saw the idea almost instantly. Why didn't I try on my own for a little longer?
Why doesn't the black rook take the hanging white rook instead of giving a check that hangs mate?
He was on the right track, till he maneuvered his king to the 8th rank, whereas maneuvering the king to a2, and Black's stalemate trick is snuffed out.
if he wasn't in check from the start then it would be mate in 1
Puzzle: (white to move and win).
White king at g1; white pawns at a7, b6, c5, d4, e3, f2;
black king at a8; black pawns at b7, c6, d5, e4.
Moving the king to the 8th rank will never work due to the rook checks on the 7th rank. White has to sac some pawns, then maneuver the king to a2
Imagine ending up with a board like this in an actual game.
its actually impossible i think
W: pawn e3
B: rook f8
W: rook h4
Was so nice ❤️🔥
Good puzzle.
I thought I had it figured out immediately, my solution was to zigzag between pawns and then get diagonal move like at 4:45 and I thought I would be safe. But ofc the rook just captures the pawn he doesn't care that it's protected...
This isn't that simple. The pawn on c7 and the rook on h3 are threatening a checkmate immediately if the black rook decides to instead of fearless checking, runs away to chew a bit of other pieces. i.e if rook captured c7 or h3 the other piece would run to c8=q or rh8 to give checkmate. The pawn on b6 is critical as it blocked a7 for black king and made it a corridor checkmate whenever any straight firepower lands on 8th rank.
3:04 that's what you literally planned for