Owen Jones meets Michael Sheen | 'Brexit appealed to abandoned communities'

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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
  • Michael Sheen is a legendary actor who has played, amongst others, Brian Clough, Tony Blair and David Frost. He's also a proud Welshman, who grew up in Port Talbot. He told me he believes the Brexit campaign's message of 'take back control' resonated strongly with British communities that have felt abandoned by successive governments since the miners' strike in the 1980s. Communities that have been left behind in the rush towards globalisation.
    We also discussed the similarities between the Brexit vote in the UK and the reasons for Donald Trump's popularity in the US, the lack of working class actors in film and television in the UK and why that may be damaging our society and his own stirring speech on the importance of the NHS.
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Komentáře • 543

  • @mikewellwood1412
    @mikewellwood1412 Před 7 lety +100

    I'd vote for him! He talks a lot of sense, and is obviously a thoughtful, as well as an articulate man. Thanks for this interview.

  • @threestepssideways1202
    @threestepssideways1202 Před 7 lety +118

    What a very balanced and enjoyable conversationalist Michael is to listen to.

    • @Stirlingsays
      @Stirlingsays Před 7 lety +4

      Until he insulted the party I voted for I would have agreed with you.

    • @hamishc288
      @hamishc288 Před 7 lety +27

      if you get upset when people insult the political party you voted for, maybe politics isn't for you...

    • @Stirlingsays
      @Stirlingsays Před 7 lety +2

      I didn't say I was upset. I'll stay interested in politics pretty much to vote against anything you or your fellow arrogants believe in.

    • @morsmagne
      @morsmagne Před 7 lety +1

      I disagree. Sheen reckons the EU re-distributes money to poor areas. It doesn't - it gives the money to people who are already rich - such as David Cameron's father-in-law. This is because it's only the rich land owners who can afford to build wind farms etc. Do you know of any poor people who have been given EU money? I can't think of a single one!

    • @Vrailly
      @Vrailly Před 7 lety +4

      EU regulations, especially for light infrastructure and environmental preservation meant much of Wales' coastal areas and deprived (ex-industrial areas as described in this video) rural areas received a lot of funding from the EU. Wales gained a lot from the EU. Now Wales will suffer its loss and the neglect of the neoliberal capitalists who will further try to finanicialise our economy and siphon more and more value into London.

  • @Greylin91
    @Greylin91 Před 7 lety +57

    easiest interview i think Owen has ever had to do tbh...this guy is full of thoughts

  • @taffridge
    @taffridge Před 7 lety +49

    Nice to here Michael popped into my hometown of Ystradgynlais. I left 22 years ago when I was 18, there was no choice, he is absolutely right that we were left to rot post de-industrialisation, when I go home it's depressing to hear the views of my friends on the Labour Party. Corbyn has an uphill struggle to convince people to support a party that, in the South Wales Valleys, spent the 90s and 2000s ignoring it's base and continuing the Thatcher Legacy. They understand the Tories not giving a fuck about the Valleys, but the betrayal of the Blair and Brown Governments is something felt deeply, but never talked about outside of those communities. UKIP is seen as a breath of fresh air because it's the party without a history as far as a lot of people are concerned, but I don't know a single person who likes Neil Hamilton.
    If Labour want to win back South Wales before its too late, then it must hammer the point that it's not just about looking after the urban vote, it needs to have a plan to replace the "Supermarket, Call Centre or Dole" economy that school leavers face especially in the Swansea Valley, or any future education policies will be a waste of time.

    • @mks8172
      @mks8172 Před 4 lety +1

      Call center and dole seem more optimistic over here its supermarket a low pay gimmick apprenticeship in coffie or office, though purly care home otherwise do not bother there is nothing.

  • @johnbates2709
    @johnbates2709 Před 7 lety +38

    Such an amazing guy and incredible actor. So incredible grounded and great too that the interviewer listened!

  • @sjw101thepoliticalgamer8
    @sjw101thepoliticalgamer8 Před 7 lety +11

    Sheen's knowledge is highly impressive. Don't agree with him on everything, but its very hard to fault his logic or his understanding of the psychology of many of those who voted Brexit.

  • @orth82
    @orth82 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Sheen is one of the most humble, intelligent and empathic people I've ever heard speak. The world needs more people like him, and in particular we would all benefit from leaders who were more like him.

  • @healgrowlovecommunity8397
    @healgrowlovecommunity8397 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Michael has the gift of making everything understandable and when you understand, you become interested and want to engage. Why are politicians unable - or unwilling - to work this way????
    I just love Michael Sheen.

  • @thecrimsonbubbles
    @thecrimsonbubbles Před 7 lety +20

    fun fact: when you upload things to The Cloud, it actually gets sent straight to Michael Sheen's hair. that is the cloud.

  • @RickP2012
    @RickP2012 Před 7 lety +33

    That was absolutely brilliant - very fair, very balanced and absolutely spot on. I think he nailed it with Trump, in a sense what he's been able to do is tap into a feeling that millions of Americans have, that is not usually represented by politicians.

    • @allanmckeown8417
      @allanmckeown8417 Před 7 lety +2

      I agree, Trump's the Catalyst regardless of what comes after, He's stirred the biggest pot of excrement and there is no putting the lid back on the pot.

    • @Jim90117
      @Jim90117 Před 7 lety +3

      I think honestly it's the failure of modern politicians that allows Trump to do what he is doing, if we learned anything from brexit and the phenomenal rise of Donald Trump it's that politicians have failed miserably at their jobs. If he is elected it will be the validation of the peoples rejection of modern day corrupt incompetent politicians and in a way i think that needs to happen.

  • @MindfulMomentsInNature
    @MindfulMomentsInNature Před 4 lety +18

    I like this calm, rational but passionate views. Part of the problem has been the divisive rhetoric and toxicity in politics at the moment there are valid reasons why most people voted leave in the referendum as well as those that voted remain, but the way it has been handled is shambolic and embarrassing. We need better discussions and debate on topics like these with a broad range of opinions and a way to find common ground somehow to help us all move forward - wishful thinking, probably!!

  • @wilfredsterling2124
    @wilfredsterling2124 Před 5 lety +16

    Shocking statistics. 7% educated at private schools yet these people dominant the top.professions. explains a lot.

  • @PosthumousAddress
    @PosthumousAddress Před 7 lety +13

    Sheen is bloody brilliant. He's clearly highly intelligent and talented; he didn't just act amazingly in the Americans, he also directed those two episodes last season where Martha leaves to go to Russia. Those were probably the best episodes that there have been of The Americans

    • @brownie43212
      @brownie43212 Před 2 lety +1

      He wasnt in the Americans?? That was Matthew Rhys

    • @roastnut
      @roastnut Před 9 měsíci

      lol@@brownie43212

  • @dimavasilev5342
    @dimavasilev5342 Před 7 lety +7

    Even if he looks nothing like him, I'd love to see Michael Sheen play Nye Bevan at some point. His NHS speech was fantastic. A genuine Welshman who cares for his home.

    • @art837arm
      @art837arm Před 2 měsíci +5

      This aged very well

    • @ctwofirst6635
      @ctwofirst6635 Před měsícem +2

      @@art837arm Yeah, going to see Michael in Nye in a couple of weeks in Cardiff.

  • @elysejfactor380
    @elysejfactor380 Před měsícem

    Michael Sheen is brilliant, generous, kind, outrageously funny, and incredibly talented. I could watch all day and never get enough.

  • @davesimms5677
    @davesimms5677 Před 7 lety +17

    Thank you for a reasoned argument on post industrial Britain.

  • @victorhunt5788
    @victorhunt5788 Před 7 lety +2

    I believe that Michael Sheen's observations & perception on the past are realistic & factual. As for Communities being a way forward for (Wales & England ) I totally agree with him ! So I shall continue this battle in North Wales as the people of Wales cannot survive until 2020 emotionally or financially intact. It is Blairite lunatic philosophy to believe that they should , promoted by the majority of Labour Party PLP''s .In 2017 we shall hopefully have a General Election & those of us who are united on the left against austerity in Wales can lead the fight forward for a humane & just society for all Welsh Communities .

  • @DM-ig1fb
    @DM-ig1fb Před 7 lety +33

    Owen how did you discover your passion for writing/politics? What/who supported you to become what you are today?

  • @Kembread
    @Kembread Před 7 lety +8

    I resent leaving the valleys because of the absence of employment. Yes, my prospects are a lot better than my parents and grandparents for the fact that I have left but, I feel like I've really missed out on a sense of community that is pervasive among my elders.

  • @samwalker5105
    @samwalker5105 Před 5 lety +7

    All these comments discussing Sheen as a luvvie leftie who’s opinion isn’t welcomed because he’s become wealthy and famous clearly aren’t realising he’s defending the working class. He’s says so himself that his path to success has now been eroded

  • @nicky7738
    @nicky7738 Před 9 měsíci +1

    He is more articulate and nuanced in his responses than most politicians

  • @allanmckeown8417
    @allanmckeown8417 Před 7 lety +2

    Terrific interview, great insight from Michael, and what he said about the younger generation is so relative,, they've not experienced the solidarity we had, the social clubs, the community fabric, you worked hard and played hard with the same people, and you stood alongside them when they were in crisis. But Thatcher, Murdoch and Dacre etc, didn't want unity, divide and conquer has won the day.

  • @ATtravel666
    @ATtravel666 Před 7 lety +2

    The ironic thing is that people in the communities he described, believed the propaganda put forward by those who abandoned them. They will be the ones who will actually suffer the most with the economic mess caused by Brexit.

  • @sallytattersall3357
    @sallytattersall3357 Před 7 lety +2

    Yes, Michael for PM - very level headed and intelligent person, enjoyed listening to him without fast forwarding!

  • @dmanntube
    @dmanntube Před 7 lety +2

    Michael Sheen, a gentleman and a scholar

  • @macacentrocultural1508
    @macacentrocultural1508 Před 7 lety +16

    I really enjoyed the interview. Thank you! I certainly think Michael Sheen would be a good man in politics.

  • @kaydunnill67
    @kaydunnill67 Před 7 lety +3

    Absolutely brilliant. Heartbreaking that these beliefs are so rarely stated, but, scarily, little believed.

  • @rigsby1454
    @rigsby1454 Před 7 lety +2

    The most intelligent comment on politics at the moment. Brilliant interview

  • @Dimlien
    @Dimlien Před 7 lety +3

    Great interview. I would love to see Michael Sheen as PM, if only for the fact that it would mean we got to see Sarah Silverman in No. 10.

  • @gerhard7323
    @gerhard7323 Před 6 lety +1

    Bravo!!

  • @stephenroche5107
    @stephenroche5107 Před 5 lety +5

    I love this man ! Martin i admire you.

    • @debfisher6096
      @debfisher6096 Před 4 lety +2

      He's called Michael. But Martin Sheen is also a decent man

  • @fishcakes1621
    @fishcakes1621 Před 7 lety

    Awesome!

  • @garyhiggins8258
    @garyhiggins8258 Před 6 lety +1

    One of the aspects of "taking back control" is pinning down the political establishment. They will no longer be able to say "Oh well, we can't do that because Europe won't let us, or we've got to enact this legislation because the EU wants to do German coal workers a favour, or, we must help the Spanish fishermen, or, we can't have all those poor migrants waiting at Calais we'd better be nice and pander to the French. No crooked Eurojudge can dictate that we pay "compensayshun" to the families of terrorists killed trying to blow us up, or give the vote to rapists, or axe murderers in prison.
    Freedom from the EU means that our establishment stands all falls on its own decisions, without anyone to blame it on. That's what they don't like.

  • @rightspritegaming
    @rightspritegaming Před 5 lety +2

    Nice interview I been hoping to hear what his views are on this , I believe it's just the start for him and we will seeing him more and more within the polictical. I feel us brits are now starting to get numb with all this and fed up and we are going to just follow like sheep and just put up it. His views are very refreshing and honest which is what we need

  • @Mrsbeatle1968
    @Mrsbeatle1968 Před 7 lety

    I love Michael and Owen. Top interview!

  • @jamesavickers5961
    @jamesavickers5961 Před 7 lety

    So so interesting this needs to be heard thank you

  • @CallMeGaffer
    @CallMeGaffer Před 7 lety +4

    Goes to show that true wealth can never be earned from hard work. You have to be BORN into the establishment to find yourself anywhere secure in this country.

    • @Jim90117
      @Jim90117 Před 7 lety +2

      That kind of negative thinking will see yourself defeated before you even begin to battle with the added side effect of a crisis of self esteem.

    • @mosspally6995
      @mosspally6995 Před 7 lety

      Call Me Gaffer you're not talking about Michael in this instance I hope?

    • @CallMeGaffer
      @CallMeGaffer Před 7 lety

      Mick E Nope this is just the actual truth. You're either elite rich, or anything else is basically you grinding for money with no security.

  • @thisstillchangesnothing
    @thisstillchangesnothing Před 7 lety +7

    Excellent interview Owen we need to get this message across to people who only get told the tories version of events.

  • @MickJaggerLoveChild
    @MickJaggerLoveChild Před 7 lety +8

    It looked like you were interviewing him in Sloane Square, one of the poshest parts of London - thats another reason why people can't stomach well paid actors telling other people how to live - the contrast is just too great. He s absolutley right about why rich people are the most successful in acting, and another reason is that rich people also have THE BEST connections ...... which if we are honest is what every showbiz industry is made up on. All the top 'models' now are children of famous people, and same with actors if you think about it. Actors who made it like Michael are now very rare.

    • @AdamSich
      @AdamSich Před 7 lety +7

      It was in the House of St Barnabus, which is a charity in Soho that helps homeless people back into work. We paid them for the room. So maybe don't write him off because of how the room (that I picked) looked.

    • @MickJaggerLoveChild
      @MickJaggerLoveChild Před 7 lety +6

      Ok sorry!! I apologise.

    • @AdamSich
      @AdamSich Před 7 lety +5

      That's literally never happened to me before on CZcams! Thanks, apology accepted. Have a nice day.

    • @MickJaggerLoveChild
      @MickJaggerLoveChild Před 7 lety +4

      Adam Sich haha really! I can admit when I'm wrong! Also Michael Sheen is actually my favourite actor in the whole world lol so I do like him, it was just an observation that I got wrong lol.

  • @sultana_467
    @sultana_467 Před 7 lety +2

    What an interesting man! Thanks Owen!

  • @scootjockey
    @scootjockey Před 7 lety +3

    Communities dont make me laugh, i live for myself and answer to nobody.

    • @SebAnders
      @SebAnders Před 7 lety +1

      Answer to nobody? are you sure? no employer, no bank nor land lord?

    • @scootjockey
      @scootjockey Před 7 lety

      Yes Nobody.

    • @SebAnders
      @SebAnders Před 7 lety +2

      Alphonse Gabriel So you're a wealthy man of independent means?

    • @scootjockey
      @scootjockey Před 7 lety

      Something like that.

  • @cfytr2k
    @cfytr2k Před 7 lety +3

    I'm glad he beat the collapse. he's one of they actors (& I do include actresses) who are very understated in their roles, almost a not-quite supporting actor, but their very presence & skill can make on ok movie into a f***ing amazing movie (think Hopkins, Walken, Mortensen & the like). & strip away the roles & acting, what a wise & surprisingly down-to-earth man.

  • @MrCharlieFarnsbarns
    @MrCharlieFarnsbarns Před 7 lety +5

    Why do you think it matters what a celebrity thinks about Brexit .. They all live in a privileged bubble

  • @Directx45000
    @Directx45000 Před 7 lety +6

    Why is acting dominated by privileged people? Because nobody without a trust fund can gamble so much on something so high risk. I know a handful of Cambridge/Oxford people who have tried to be actors and failed catastrophically. They get by only because they have support.

    • @HTHAMMACK1
      @HTHAMMACK1 Před 6 lety +2

      Directx45000 You’re ignorant. There are a lot of actors who come from humble backgrounds that don’t have trust funds. In fact, most do.

    • @katiegoodall5347
      @katiegoodall5347 Před 5 lety

      All the best actors have stories to tell.. Dont discredit the hard work struggling actors do to make ends meet

  • @zizopowerful85
    @zizopowerful85 Před 6 lety +1

    That was interesting interview 👏🏻

  • @leonjfborges
    @leonjfborges Před 5 lety +2

    I am an EU citizen, I think that before anything else, there's should be a more accurate information about EU and also Brexit. As the world is, and for people to have the life standard that we have today, means that countries need to be closer to eachother. The sense of take over control of your own country, is a false sense of security. Unfortunately I saw this kind of thought before and the result never was good.

  • @jillallsopp7930
    @jillallsopp7930 Před 3 lety +1

    I'd vote for him - he says so many things that I am totally in agreement with. Intelligent caring man

  • @Fredders88
    @Fredders88 Před 7 lety +2

    Most pertinent bit for me was his words about the Corbyn leadership of the party being given the chance to fly or fail - if he's not given this chance we may see many more years of the left divided.

  • @george.6326
    @george.6326 Před 7 lety +8

    Michael was statesman like and knows he subject. He cares about Wales and it's (our) people. Anyone any idea what the furled brow face pulling was about from Owen?

    • @JapanAlex01
      @JapanAlex01 Před 7 lety +17

      That's his listening face.

    • @vordman
      @vordman Před 4 lety

      All just words. He saw acting as the quickest way to get out of Wales, that's how much he cares.

    • @commonsense9176
      @commonsense9176 Před rokem +1

      ​@@vordman wrong he lives in port Talbot

  • @Starzagal
    @Starzagal Před 7 lety

    So glad to hear him discuss John Osborne

  • @jamesfyffe2768
    @jamesfyffe2768 Před 6 lety +2

    great guy.

  • @sarahvernon316
    @sarahvernon316 Před 7 lety

    Excellent interview.

  • @bellendwheeler6342
    @bellendwheeler6342 Před 6 lety +1

    That bloke has his finger on the pulse...excellent interview. The one thing he should have said however was the reason why people voted for "Right Wing Numpties" and not their traditional Labour party was because their history of supporting Labour was of being let down or abandoned by politicians who maintained a comfortable living for themselves whilst the communities they represented were left without hope.

  • @Parallax09
    @Parallax09 Před 6 měsíci

    Michael Sheen is a very intelligent man.

  • @Stirlingsays
    @Stirlingsays Před 7 lety +4

    Didn't Owen refuse to share a Sky platform with Milo? Hence not participating in the trading of ideas where the populous can judge which ideology benefits them most. Sheen makes the general point that this should be done while Owen nods along.

  • @fernandobiondi1256
    @fernandobiondi1256 Před 7 lety +1

    Hi Owen your interviews are an interesting way to connect to and understand brittish thinking and complexity as nation, I'm from southamerica and this is a good channel to appreciate & grasp what's going on in your society particularly after brexit ,love your shrewd questions & comments but I've got a petition to make: Would you Please talk a little slower? sometimes you're difficult to follow. Thanks in advance, keep up the good work!

  • @OneAndOnlyMe
    @OneAndOnlyMe Před 7 lety +1

    The Labour party could a lot worse than have Michael Sheen make speeches. At least he understands the problems that are leading the working class toward populism.

  • @HouseholdDog
    @HouseholdDog Před 6 lety

    Would love to have heard what was cut out mid conversation there.

  • @genisug22
    @genisug22 Před 7 lety

    great work owen jones

  • @krisathe1stp0wer46
    @krisathe1stp0wer46 Před 7 lety +1

    I watched him in The Damned United last night. Bloody good actor. Good activist too!

  • @petermc2wheels188
    @petermc2wheels188 Před 7 lety +1

    A very good actor with some interesting opinions and a good interview. I personally have lost faith in all politicians. I truly wish that wasn't the case.

  • @irisolwagen
    @irisolwagen Před 3 lety +2

    Ahhh Michael... I just can't stop staring at his beautiful hands... With some of his guestures he does, I see Aro 😍

  • @TheWilliammwill
    @TheWilliammwill Před 7 lety +35

    Why won't you debate Douglas Murray? Running scared is my theorem.

    • @morgengabe1
      @morgengabe1 Před 5 lety +6

      That's a poorly conceived theorem if you ask me. The category of reasons not to engage in a debate with douglas murray has a more than a single degree of freedom.

  • @BenCarpenter1975
    @BenCarpenter1975 Před 7 lety +9

    can these be subtitled before they're put out please? The auto generated stuff from CZcams is way off...

    • @OwenJonesTalks
      @OwenJonesTalks Před 7 lety +13

      Adam's written out a lot of it for a Facebook version. We'll try and get the rest done for CZcams. It takes a long while though.

    • @AdamSich
      @AdamSich Před 7 lety +10

      I can't guarantee they'll make any more sense than the auto generated ones thouhg.

    • @EnriqueSP
      @EnriqueSP Před 7 lety +6

      Owen Jones Owen, I think there's an option on CZcams that if activated, it allows everyone to take part in the transcriptions. It's fast and that would help a lot to all those (like me) who watch you from a non-English country. Thanks!

    • @AdamSich
      @AdamSich Před 7 lety +2

      Hey Enrique, appreciate the suggestion but there are reasons I can't do that.
      Lining up the subtitles now, so won't be long.

    • @EnriqueSP
      @EnriqueSP Před 7 lety +2

      Adam Sich It's okey, thank you for your hard work, though.

  • @RichardCarling
    @RichardCarling Před 5 měsíci

    Regional control of investment through local banks. The carpet bagging of building societies was bad enough, but centralised investment just makes London stronger.

  • @lapponia77
    @lapponia77 Před 7 lety +1

    Really interesting and engaging discussion. He actually tries to engage with the reasons why people voted in the way they did, even if he disagrees with their choice. I also agree with him on how important it is to our culture to maintain a civilised debate and not descend into an insult-hurling slanging match. Unfortunately, one or two contributors to the thread below show that his fears are justified.

  • @person8203
    @person8203 Před 7 lety +39

    People from privileged backgrounds doing well for themselves isn't exactly a hard one to figure out. Think of what you could achieve with money in the bank and no bills to worry about.
    The bit at 3:50 about having different opinions without being shouted down as scum was ironic considering how outlets like the guardian have been behaving post-brexit. Apparently more than half the country are either abandoned, ignorant, and uneducated working class communities or xenophobic little Englanders. Either way they're considered wrong rather than having a different opinion. Ridiculous, all kinds voted for both leave and remain. Left, right, working/middle/elite class, black, white, immigrants, etc. The so called disenfranchised working class don't number enough to have won brexit.
    It wasn't some community wide cry for help or punch to the face of elitists or reaction to globalisation. It was people being asked if they wanted the uk to be independent and globally focused or part of a European superstate where our own needs aren't always heard. The EU has been a mess for years and they don't even want to acknowledge it. Of course other issues like wealth distribution, immigration, etc were side issues but the idea of 'independence' is a powerful one. I don't see many people calling the Scottish ignorant?

    • @SepulchreBrit
      @SepulchreBrit Před 7 lety +2

      excellent comment.

    • @chriswilson3009
      @chriswilson3009 Před 7 lety +3

      Immigration wasn't a side issue it was a major issue to working class voters having their jobs taken by immigrants ,employers are happy to take on immigrants for one they'll usually work for less money and two the government subsidises immigrants over indigenous workers

    • @person8203
      @person8203 Před 7 lety +3

      chris wilson
      - of course for low skilled workers immigration is a massive issue. I know decent people in the construction industry that have gone full right wing against immigration because of the effect it's had. However, across the board brexit wasn't won off the back of immigration. That's based on polls and stats. Even those workers affected by immigration only want to see more control. Yet there are those that like to taint brexit by saying it was won by xenophobes and racists, which is total rubbish.

    • @chriswilson3009
      @chriswilson3009 Před 7 lety +3

      person8203 Dont listen to the xenophobic russish from the media Britain has taken in millions of foreigners how can we be xenophobic its just a case of self preservation bringing in loads of unskilled labour into the country when there are no jobs for them has the makings of a social and economic disaster

    • @person8203
      @person8203 Před 7 lety +8

      chris wilson
      - I think this is the part many on the remain side are struggling to understand. It's easy for them to package all leavers up as 'the migrant hating bad guys' because it avoids confronting real problems with social cohesion. It's not the migrants themselves that's the problem it's the volume, particularly low skilled. Public services struggle to cope, jobs are effected, progression stunted. You can't add hundreds of thousands to a population each year without problems. I'm all for immigration as long as there are sensible and fair controls.

  • @leeeeee286
    @leeeeee286 Před 7 lety +86

    Thanks Owen. As a poor working class guy I mostly base my political views on that of wealthy celebrities. Thanks for giving our views a voice.

    • @djduncan3755
      @djduncan3755 Před 7 lety +20

      Just shut the fuck up and do as your told peasant, only oxbridge and luvvie lefties know what's best for you, show some fucking gratitude; they work tirelessly and selflessly for you, doing all the brain work for you so you don't need to worry your little proletariat head, and yet you still want to have your own opinion?!?!? to voice your disgusting opinion even?!?!?? Come the workers' revolution you're going to be the first against the wall pal the way you're going, so just fucking watch it!!

    • @mukkinesebattlehorn4704
      @mukkinesebattlehorn4704 Před 7 lety +13

      So wealth and fame mean he cannot voice his opinion? Yes, it would be nice to hear more from the man on street, but who would pay attention?

    • @seekeroftruth1223
      @seekeroftruth1223 Před 7 lety +1

      Pond Life.

    • @leeeeee286
      @leeeeee286 Před 7 lety +9

      DJ Duncan You're right, I'm just a dumb working class person from middle England. I can't be trusted to vote or know what's good for me. That's why I listen to Owen Jones and leftist celebs. They know what's best for idiots like me.

    • @leeeeee286
      @leeeeee286 Před 7 lety +2

      ***** "fucked up the country" lmao dude, don't be so dramatic.

  • @pottersmiles7238
    @pottersmiles7238 Před rokem

    Brexit appealed to abandoned communities. No. Ebbw Vale in Wales received the most money from Europe and they wanted out.

  • @MellorDR
    @MellorDR Před 7 lety

    love him to do a new look back in anger type film

  • @gillbrown4077
    @gillbrown4077 Před 7 lety +1

    I wonder if you lay a map of former coalfields over a map of the most Brexit areas, you'd test out what Sheen was saying....I think he's right. Brexit was not about racism it was about communities stripped of wealth jobs and vitality using the only thing they had left ....their vote! Ignoring them will only drive them to the right.

  • @Filbert66
    @Filbert66 Před 6 lety +2

    Michael Sheen comes across as a Guardian reader! I'm working class but...........

  • @imnottellingu1
    @imnottellingu1 Před 7 lety +1

    Why is it surprising the majority people in top professions were educated privately? They are better schools - thats why people pay.

  • @tomimpala
    @tomimpala Před 7 lety

    Clever man.

  • @circularcommunitiescymru9991
    @circularcommunitiescymru9991 Před 16 hodinami

    He's a Welsh actor not a British actor Owen

  • @samphillips3018
    @samphillips3018 Před 7 lety +2

    DEFINITELY MICHAEL SHEEN FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!

  • @jensen1710
    @jensen1710 Před 7 lety +1

    Telling that, neither interviewer or interviewee know why people are concerned about immigration. Complete mystery to both of them.

  • @martynfenton4862
    @martynfenton4862 Před 4 lety +2

    I'm not sure you can possibly have solidarity and maximum diversity(globalisation) at the same time

    • @benfisher1376
      @benfisher1376 Před rokem

      You can't. Globalisation is mainly for the elites. Working class don't want it really, thats why brexit happened, they took the only chance they could for their voice to be heard. The current left is too middle class, too borgois and out if youch with the majority.

  • @metalchicken
    @metalchicken Před 7 lety +1

    Yes Owen. Michael Sheen for PM. Definitely

  • @hollyshirras2783
    @hollyshirras2783 Před 7 lety

    Hi Owen, Loved the interview, really interesting point of view. I'd love you to eventually interview Mark Blyth of Brown University who i feel has a unique way of explaining how we have reached this point both politically and economically.

  • @robinmichaelhurley1870

    OK, Very nice! Very articulate! Comes from Stockport! I am not very familiar with Michael Sheen. I will have to look him up.

  • @Govanmauler
    @Govanmauler Před 7 lety +4

    the MA-SHEEN !

  • @doyoumind9356
    @doyoumind9356 Před 5 lety

    I know a woman who voted Brexit because she thought "let's throw the cards in the air .. see how they land". I know a man who voted Brexit because in his view EU leaders are extra terrestrials with malign intent. The detail of the politics and economics of Brexit went over my head .. I looked at who was in the two camps. In my view there were fewer crazies in the Remain camp. Ironically I therefore aligned myself with, among other people, Cameron and Osbourne. Was it an easy call ? I don't think so.

  • @fellowcruz
    @fellowcruz Před 7 lety +15

    Great interview! Some one atleast talking sense.

  • @morsmagne
    @morsmagne Před 7 lety +18

    I don't agree with him. The EU doesn't re-distributre money to poor people - it gives it to the already rich, such as Cameron's father-in-law.
    I think the reason why actors tend to come from rich backgrounds is because an acting career is a risk (big risk of failure) - if your parents are wealthy, you can afford to take that risk. This is because you'll get the support to do an alternative career that's good if it doesn't work out. If you're poor and an acting career doesn't work out, your qualifications are almost useless and you can't afford to re-train.

  • @kadisheofarrell4874
    @kadisheofarrell4874 Před 7 lety +1

    I heard that Michael Sheen is leaving Hollywood to become an activist. I wish him the best of luck.

  • @tomtheeagle1
    @tomtheeagle1 Před 7 lety +1

    I'd vote for him

  • @thisaccountisdead9060
    @thisaccountisdead9060 Před 7 lety

    When you randomly figure out the endochronological connection between Birdman starring Michael Keaton and Stockholm Syndrome from using social media.

  • @bankzie
    @bankzie Před 7 lety +1

    4:20 quick mood change

  • @I-Dophler
    @I-Dophler Před 9 měsíci +1

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:00 🎤 Michael Sheen discusses acting is dominated by privileged backgrounds
    01:26 🎭 The pathway into acting is disappearing, reducing opportunities
    02:45 🎦 Media and entertainment swayed heavily towards privately educated
    03:38 💬 Need healthy debate across range of voices without abuse
    04:31 🏭 Port Talbot shaped by industry at its heart now declining
    05:59 🏠 Forcing abandoned communities to move takes away their identity
    07:20 🗳️ 'Take back control' resonated in deindustrialized communities
    08:47 👐 Rediscovering community cohesion and belonging through cooperation
    09:43 🤔 Immigration concerns not directly visible in these communities
    11:04 🇺🇸 Trump taps into similar economic insecurity and resentment
    12:53 ⚖️ Labour must reconnect with working class communities it has lost
    13:49 💊 NHS represents wider consensus on social safety net being dismantled
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  • @daikayll1897
    @daikayll1897 Před 5 lety

    Brian Clough played by Sheen for PM !

  • @djduncan3755
    @djduncan3755 Před 7 lety +2

    But Martin you got on your bike and went to drama school why should the people of Port Talbot stay and indulge you in your sentimental view of working class communities? Why don't you go back and fight for Port Talbot?

    • @debfisher6096
      @debfisher6096 Před 4 lety +1

      He does it ALL THE TIME! He's here continually, doing just that!

  • @martinlubo5019
    @martinlubo5019 Před 7 lety

    Another interesting video! I'd love to see you interview Nicola Sturgeon.

  • @curlyken01
    @curlyken01 Před rokem

    You should go into politics Michael, this country desperately needs people with your kind of passion in parliament, you could make such a difference.

  • @Fishfries-ve3ff
    @Fishfries-ve3ff Před 7 lety

    Some key words in that interview that sum up the current state of affairs. A large, if not majority, of people feel like they have 'lost control', they feel 'alienated' and 'their communities abandoned'. They want to 'take back control', and they want someone to 'be the face of their fears and concerns'. As Michael says, UKIP and Trump understand this (even Teresa May has jumped on the band wagon and the SNP tapped into the same message).
    So why do the vast majority of the PLP still persist with their Blairite and, if I'm being kind, centrist approach to politics? Most working class people don't trust them. In fact, they feel they are part of the very self-serving establishment that has put the interests of the corporate elite before the people they are supposed to represent. And by challenging Corbyn's leadership they managed to reinforce and further entrench this belief that they are part of the problem.

  • @janswimwild
    @janswimwild Před 3 lety

    I hope he does enter politics, he has the understanding, the insight and experience to bring people together.

  • @OHHEYBUDDAY
    @OHHEYBUDDAY Před 7 lety

    The Quote is right

  • @johnjohnson467
    @johnjohnson467 Před 7 lety

    hi owen,why not ask peter Tatchell for an interview.jpj

  • @pfountaine6214
    @pfountaine6214 Před 3 lety

    Takes a non politician to hit the nail on the head.

  • @bumface3
    @bumface3 Před 7 lety +43

    I'm not poor or from abandoned communities. I voted Brexit because I care about democracy and accountability in government. If you can't see that the EU is an existential threat to a democratic europe then you're too thick to debate with.

    • @siblinganon66
      @siblinganon66 Před 7 lety +4

      strange... here i thought nationalism has been and still is the biggest threat to democracies in europe...

    • @jonweaver9920
      @jonweaver9920 Před 7 lety

      without national-state-ism you would need to change the D-word from a plural noun to a singular one

    • @louisdavies8050
      @louisdavies8050 Před 7 lety +1

      Actually nationalism is the biggest threat. That is why I am against the EU in general because ultimately it wont work for various reasons (too big, based on the 19th century german problem and unfeasible). But mainly because it has lead to the rise of right wing nationalist groups in Europe, bearing an uncanny relation to that of 20th century europe. I don't think you need to read a history book to understand the dangers of that.

    • @louisdavies8050
      @louisdavies8050 Před 7 lety

      TheCausation
      -Marxism doesn't hold any viability or much support anymore. Complete straw man argument. I didn't even mention it. And for the record Marx absolutely nailed the problems with capitalism and how it will fall. Unfortunately his solution was a disaster, just like the conservative Edmund Burke's criticism of Revolution in general (French in particular) was superb but his solution was retarded.
      The right wing groups in Italy, Poland, Hungary and Greece are far from the sweet sentimental nationalism you describe. French national front has changed its tone slightly whether this is genuine move or Le Pen simply wanting to avoid the open racism of her father (e.g. France 1998 world cup win didn't count because many of the players were black) Also you say Nationalism is the pursuit of interests for your own country but that doesn't necessarily mean conflict with others.....well yeah it does in 90% of cases because they want it too only for their own. Caring about your family does not make you nationalist. Obviously threats to people in your geographic country are more pressing because that is how humans are wired (rather poorly not to care about much beyond their closest).
      Saying globalism is evil and nationalism is good shows who the real idiot is. What is this a toddlers disney film ? Firstly aspects of globalism are here to stay whether we like it or not. For example Donald Trump - promised steel jobs for the rust belt. Oh really ? how the fuck is he going to do that. Steel can be made in multiple places round the world for a dollar a day workers. Then even if you somehow could compete with that. Did you know what has happened to the american manufacturing industries in the last 30 years in America. I know what your thinking, they've been decimated by neo-lib policy and gloablism etc etc etc. WRONG. The manufacturing industry has DOUBLED in america in the past 30 years but with 30-40% less employment. Why?......Technology. Which you cannot undo in any way. You need to look to the future.
      Trump is also a conman of the highest order. I wouldn't be surprised if he either quits or gets impeached by the republican congress because they would much prefer Pence.
      Also you already weak arguments just fell even deeper into the realm of conspiracy theory by mentioning "cultural Marxism". Really? are you that retarded.
      A Nazi theory backed by Anders Behring Breivik. You might as well say gas the jews, Frankfurt school had no influence at all and to suggest otherwise is laughable and to ignore historical fact.

    • @routeman680
      @routeman680 Před 7 lety

      +Louis Davies I think you are mistaken. Nazism ended in 1945. The present-day parties in France, the Netherlands and Germany which the media call 'far-right' are not Nazi but concerned about mass immigration, especially Muslim immigration, which beings into Europe people who do not share our culture or ideals of freedom of thought and speech and democracy, and who tend to have large families and will outbreed us in a few decades. The demographic changes are real and serious. Nazism and fascism as in the 1930s are characterized by totalitarian ideals (state more important then the individual, restrictions on liberty) militarism, censorship, indoctrination. You do not see that with the French NF or the German AfD or the Dutch Freedom Party. On the contrary, the indoctrination is from the EU and globalists.