Interlocking Chinese Joinery with Andrew Hunter
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- čas přidán 1. 07. 2017
- Andrew's Frame-and-Panel article: bit.ly/2tAdQPU
Andrew Hunter learned his ultrastrong, rigid frame-and- panel construction from studying the work of Chinese cabinetmakers, who’ve been using it for centuries. In this video, watch Hunter demonstrate some other amazing interlocking joinery. - Jak na to + styl
The demonstration and introduction is so interesting!
Thank you for making this video to introduce this ancient wisdom.
It seems that ancient people are really good at using pressure and the power already exists in nature.
Just beautiful, could watch stuff like this for hours. I have an article on an ancient Chinese chair construction with hidden complex, compound joineries somewhere, no glue or nails either. Making entry doors and Japanese shoji panels for all window screens. For now I’m dependent on yellow glue, nail guns and pocket screws - ha, ha.
Mind. Blown. I'm totally borrowing the sliding-devetailed batons for a cabinet build.
Chinese traditional furniture uses fish gloom, it's strong when it's dry, but if you steam it, it can be easily removed, it helps to repair.
They also use a type of glue made from pig skin. They were quite difficult to produce and not very fun to prepare, you would have to heat it up to turn it into a liquid state. Also the shelf life isn't very long, once it spoils, it no longer adheres to anything.
Ohhh, I get whats going on with that "floting" panel. Very impressive!. I was designing a Table with a frame but I stopped because i didn't think it was strong enough. Must dive into Chinese furniture to learn more...
The Mose awesome jointery I ever seen! Thanks for sharing.
i used to eat on those and use those in my grandpa's house. still remember all those framed table top. those little gaps are always full of dirt and i usually drop rice into them and get blamed by grandma haha.
Yea we need more craft like this and yes it is not easy. I love Japanese woodworking but the Japanese got it from China I have to say
@James Wang 日本学中国人家说的有错吗你在这房一堆屁
@@pfzheng6501 台湾人就是这样
@James Wang Pure fart
James Wang sb
@James Wang.. of course Japan is simpler because they get a little understanding from China .. they haven't absorbed too much yet .. so can we see the result? simplicity..
China's desktop is basically not made of a whole board, but several boards. The board is also made of glue. However, China uses glue called "fish bladder glue", which is a kind of glue boiled from fish bladder. Because the strength of this glue is not very high, it is necessary to use the piercing of swallow tail trough to stabilize the desktop without cracking. Another point is that if the video is used as a desktop, the wood used in the frame is too narrow. Chinese furniture used as the frame of the desktop, all of them use at least 7 cm wide wood, because only when the wood is wide enough, it can leave enough space for mortise and tenon to connect with the main body. In addition, the wide desktop border, it seems to be full of material, giving a sense of atmosphere. However, if it is used as a cabinet door, the frame in the video is a bit too big, because as a cabinet door, it pays attention to the big side and narrow side, so it looks lighter and has a sense of line.
In Chinese it call 粽角榫 （zongjiaosun）， add more exotic to miter joint
Also called 三尖榫
Truly amazing, this will change my perspective and approach in building furniture.. in love.
Amazing 🤩 workmanship.
Extreme creativity 🤩
中国的桌面，基本不是用一整块板，而是几块板做拼板，拼板也是要上胶水的，不过中国用是胶水叫“鱼鳔胶”，是一种从鱼鳔里面熬出来的胶水，因为这种胶水的强度不太高，所以要用燕尾槽的穿带来稳定桌面不开裂。还有一点，就是视频里如果是用作桌面，那边框用的木头太窄了，中国式的家具用作桌面的边框，都起码用7cm宽的木头，因为只有木头宽了，才能够留下足够的空间开榫眼，用来和主体连接。另外，宽的桌面边框，看上去用料足，给人一种大气的感觉。不过，如果作为柜门，视频里的框架确有点嫌大，因为作为柜门，讲究的是大面窄边，这样看上去比较轻盈，富有线条感。
That is eye-opening! Thanks for the information.
Super video thanks for posting.
Fine Woodworking -- Can you do a series (i.e., a playlist) of content where you dissect and analyze good furniture designs as Andrew Hunter has done in this video?
YES PLEASE!
So Andrew offered to show you how this is made...can we see that video please?
Excellent video; I'm just beginning to get into Ming Dynasty furniture and this is inspiring
Wow, Incredible.
This is awesome subscribed for sure
amazing.
OMG... To think that these joineries techniques are hundreds or a thousand years old. Mind blowing those ancient Chinese can figure it all out and deep knowledge & understanding of load bearing of it. The tools were rudimentary
Classic joint of China Ming dynasty furnitures. It looks simple but actually very complicated and strong even after hundreds of years. Really amazing !
impresionante!! nivel ingeniero!! muy bueno!!
impressive yes first time seeing this type of joinery
very interesting, I LIKE VERY MUCH
Kansas city mo has the nelson atkins art museums\ which contains a beautiful collection of antique chinese rosewood furniture
Hello,
Thank you for such an educative video. wonderful designs and craftsmanship.
I wanted to ask what tool do you use to do the tapered sliding dovetail battens?
Do you use a special plane to give you the dovetail angle?
Thank you in advance.
Ummm this gentleman is a human CNC machine with built in computer and 3D software.
So let me see, we had Ming CNC machines but we had to wait until 1940s to find out.
All kidding aside, he is amazing. Pure and simple.
Beautiful ancient ingenuity. FW, thank you so much for sharing this with us. At 18:55 Andrew puts an intriguing idea in my mind...how about scientifically compression testing a panel on its diagonal compared with a conventional panel of similar species? i would love to see those numbers. How much force can this brilliantly engineered structure withstand? I think this would prove productive in inspiring woodworkers to employ this time-consuming joinery technique in their furniture constructions.
I think you are searching for numbers with no real relevance, the number that matters is 900 years.
Very clever
Very interesting to watch your demo. Great work. You mentions at the end that there are better books written about the Chinese Woodworking today. Better than the one from Gustav Ecke. Can you please give us your recommendations to which books to check out? Thanks in advance.
simply beautiful. There are still a lot of craftsmen left in mainland China making expensive furnitures. But architectural work can only be observed in ancient buildings now. Too bad young people are abandoning their artful villages houses to live in ugly depressing concrete apartment buildings
I love Andrews face when "Blue Shirt Boy" says exactly the opposite of what was about to be explained to him.
17:40 lol
FWW should fire the moron.
What book do you recommend to buy, to construct the corner joinery. ? Thank you
I think this type of woodwork skills is more like 2000 years earlier than the Ming Dynasty. @9:30, what book is that? How can I buy one? Also, can we have an instructional video showing us how to create a few of these locking joineries? Please!
Only collectors can afford furniture made from the traditional techincs in China. Plus the scarcer material this sort of furniture became the target of speculators.
muito bom vou copiar, pode ... ;)
I wonder what would be the miter look like those old days.
The Chinese carpenter foundation guy name was Luban live around 2000 years ago,he learned this from a cave which preserved the prehistoric human furniture, maybe before big flood .
Luban definitely did not learn it from a cave lol
From 9:30 onward my mind got blown
Man... You look like Dr. Cox from Scrubs and Patrick from Coupling (UK) combined!
桌腿和最后一个面板的制作方法我认为不是最顶级的。最后一个面板在我看来也许是错误的。在中国北方传统木工中，这种桌腿叫做“”斜拔牙子”它不应该是挂销的，而应该是望板带角度的斜插榫。最后面板的制作我们叫做攒边和穿带。制作方法及牢固性远高于视频中所展示的。个人意见。谢谢你的展示。
next level shit. stunning talent.
Thanks Andrew for pointing out that these are ancient Chinese technique. I am quite disgusted the amount of cultural appropriation that China has to put up with. Take for example the 'Da Vinci Bridge', well the *Rainbow Bridge* existed in Song Dynasty ancient China a few hundred years before Leonardo Da Vinci's time, and there is a 900 year old painting to prove it. But at least in this case it is just a matter of mistake because Leonardo Da Vinci probably came up with his bridge design independently, however, I have to say the the worst offender is Japan.
Holy shit its Stuart.
Amazing! Are there no links to the books referenced?
I was able to find both on Amazon.
Classical Chinese Furniture by Marcus Flacks
Chinese Domestic Furniture by Gustav Ecke
Gustave Ecke
Japanese took this advanced Joinery and made changes that improved its usefulness in Japan.
Can anyone recommend good joinery book for beginner woodworkers.
Gary Rogowski's book on Taunton Press is the bible of joinery: www.tauntonstore.com/the-complete-illustrated-guide-to-joinery.html
粽角榫 中國古典經典技巧
Beautiful video, a little rough to watch as the guy on the right interrupts the guy on the left every 5 seconds...
How does he make the sliding dovetail in the panel with hand tools? Wow
Router plane
What book is it you are using. Please.
Gustav Ecke: chinese domestic furniture
中国花梨家具图考。where to buy the book?
It’s complicated to make and I love complications.
Beautiful joinery is not a ten minute job 👍😄
And that that beauty actually *adds* strength... in Western joinery too often it's too often the compromise, looking for ways to add strength without taking away too much of the finish. Whole different way of looking at things, very impressive
Absolutely impressive mr hunter...need a helper?
template please
I suppose this a natural wood panel. How is a panel like this made?
Stefan Duberg im trying to figure out the same thing!
I think Andrew was trying to run away from this guy keeps uttering the word "delicate mitre joint".
The joints are so difficult to cut.
WHAT BOOK?
Gustav Ecke: chinese domestic furniture
Thanks for sharing awesome me likey ⛩️🎏🙏🏽
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there is reson how chinese buld ajiant casel the can surviv a level 11 earth kwack for a reson
You know i wonder if you could make it even stronger if you did that but instead if wood steel or titanium? If thats possible...
Really good craftsmanship though
Are you serious? If it was steel you'd weld it.
It might last 500 years but it will take 500 to build
A standard dovetail or tenon can last for centuries as well.
hey I still learning
Stop cutting your interviewee off, we want to hear him talk, not you.
And your just taking stuff out of his hand mid explanation...
Yes, but there is a reason for it, to show the camera. -Ben
@FineWoodworking: Then you need to get a better interviewer. Seriously, the guy is so ham-handed he made me cringe.
You guys are so unpolite it makes me cringe. No decent person would say something like this publicly, only on the internet..
@ximono: Are you that unfamiliar with printed magazines and newspapers? Are you unaware of the columns headlined, "Letters To The Editor", where people openly spoke their mind? I guess you too are a product of the internet.
I was annoyed with the interviewer being too "handsy" and interrupting as he did, awkward.
This bearded klutz needs to stop talking.
google-辛全生 。里面有教学。
What? build a pice of furniture with glue and nails and still last for hundreds of years
Much of CHinese woodworking techniques are lost. If you want to see little of it, go to the forbidden city.
The picture from the book here doesn't show you what kind of join make with, I did examine some old Chinese furniture. not that complicate, the join you show more like Japanese style
you should google first ok , LOL
Lol, japanese invented none of these skills and techniques, they simply learned and adopted them from china.
Lip smacking, ugh!
Im thinking where i still can find it. Im 8 years in China and the only thing i hear is that the craft is Disappearing fast, a specially up North in Beijing. I guess that there is not much money to earn in it anymore for a young Chinese. Its not like in the west a craft and art to earn money with.
xander witt Actually the traditional Chinese furniture is quite popular among wealthy Chinese people in recent years, especially those made with rosewood.
xander witt
My parents acquired some furniture from northern hebei. But thatpart of the province is really poor so the traditional livestyle dissapears really fast
Julian Wang you should keep them and restore if needed. There will be less left in the future.
xander witt definitely.
go to a city called dacheng near Tianjin. It’s a whole city built on fine furniture, carpentry is the main industry. They still have old plans and many of the newer generation carpenters go to museums to recreate the imperial furnitures to study.
he did it wrong on the frame and panel structure .
Go ahead, Master Artisan, tell us in detail what he got wrong. Show us examples of how YOU have done it correctly. Or maybe the only thing you can do with your hands is type shit on a keyboard!
@@Frankowillo No.
Looks like a really weak joint. I guess this is why things made in china always fall apart in a week.
MAGA MAN did you miss the part about 900 year old tables? Ones that are 4 times as old as the united states? I don't understand how you can look at this incredible technique and beautiful engineering and then spout that bullshit.
Typical ignorant remark from an ignorant Trump following fool. Stick to your cheeto-dusted chimpanzee and keep away from decent folk!
Then you must be as blind as a headless chicken...
@@evanbarnes9984I guess ignorance is not always a bliss😂
No way it's not chinese it's ancient japanese and indian traditional joint
@Hitesh Limbani: You ignorant fool!
😂so ignorant
@@AZ-um1oz truth is never ignorant dear,we preserve our ancestral furniture
@@369LandXplorerit was invented by the Chinese. The Japanese learned from China
@@HappyFloppyDisc-qk9cg Dear I own a 350 year's ancestral wooden home & a village temple which has been constructed with these joints and stands tall even today, if you wish I can provide photographs and even happy to invite you to personally visit if anyone wishes
this is Japanese tech. not Chinese
Oai Tran You are ignorant and stupid, go learn some history... Geez
...maybe u should google it
Oai Tran you know nothing about. Shut up.
... read book!
Japanese joinery is more architectural. Chinese is used more in furniture.