Tekki & Naihanchi Comparison! Shotokan vs Shorin vs Matsubayashi Karate｜Yusuke in Okinawa Spinoff #2
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How auspicious ! I have recently received Naihanchi I and II. I am still in the process of learning III; but I've got to say, our style does them even slightly differently! So cool to see the many versions, it only helps me to learn my own style's and appreciate the hard work of your teachers and yourself. Thanks again!
The knee goes up in Shotokan and Matsubayashi on the side steps, but it's a single step in Shorin Ryu when you do kosa dachi after the kage tsuki. Also the crossing front food kosa-dachi doesn't go all the way across in Matsubayashi, it seems to stay closer to the back foot.
I double-checked with my copy of The Essence of Okinawan Karate-do and we perform Naihanchi ashi fumi with every step according to Nagamine Osensei's example. That is, the heel should come in front of the thigh every time. Other than that, spot on. I've really enjoyed this series!
Also, I think you didn't mention the position of the arm in the first movements, from kamae to the open hand block. Another thing I think you forgot to mention and it is very important is the cadence of the movements: in the Okinawan styles, they do it at a slower pace, while the Shotokan version looks swifter and supple, or jerkier.
I first noticed that the timing was very different. Whereas it depends of the master and his purpose, is is still quite important. Matsubayashi Ryu is the slower one, the sensei puts more intention in each of his action and makes it look easy. Indeed he stomps harder while keeping a high stance, which makes me think that this style is mostly meant for self defense purposes. Shotokan is the fastest, your rythm is much denser than the two others and meant for fast consecutive blocks and attacks, which would probably explain why your stance is lower and wider (you can get a full extension of your legs faster and directed for opponents coming sideway). The speed and the wide and explosive stance of Shotokan makes it better for competition. For Shorin Ryu, I noticed that they keep an average speed in the rythm which, I think, allow them to put a lot of intention and moreover big amount of power in their punches and especially in their blocks.
Keep going, I love when you cross styles. Would you do a kata comparison with a Taekwondo master?
I want to compliment you on how you presented this. It was much easier to look at small segments at a time and compare them. Well done.
Yeah
It is very important to compare at the perfect time and you have done this very well. Which I really liked💞💞
Glad you enjoyed it! The editing took forever!!! Haha
thanks!
@@KarateDojowaKu Well it was certainly appreciated by us the viewer. Easily the best I've seen so far, by anyone. Well done!!!
Agree! Excellent way,
I think it’s important also to notice the differences of each individual as well. I know this is not a direct comparison of styles but I found it interesting that you appear to also have a very different age group for each demonstration. You are quite young and fast and springy with energy, the style on left is I would say about middle aged and the right seems to be in senior years. Age in my opinion is one of the brightest factors in why or how you change your kata as you move forward in life and it is evident here in this video. Good job.
Awesome point!!!!! I have to give you the "best comment of the week award" to you. Haha. I totally agree with your opinion
@@KarateDojowaKu No problem! I loved the video and thank you for doing what you do. Keep up the great work!
Here, in Brazil, in my style shinshukan - shorin ryu, we practice the version that Uema sensei demonstrated. This serie of videos are very nice, thank you.
That's awesome!
The comparison split screen step by step with commentary on the small details is very cool.
Great editing too.
Props
Glad you liked it! It took forever to edit it!
2:00 - Matsubayashi Sensei's strike looks like it would cause internal bleeding and cut your lifespan by 75%.
LOL
Haha
Hello, seeing this Kata makes me think a lot to many moves of Pyongwon poomsee. I love to watch your videos to see similarities between Karate ans Taekwondo. Keep on your videos they are great knowledge source!!
Great video! Thank you for sharing! The dynamics you use for the second open hand block are also different from the other two. Stylish and not rushed. Isshin-Ryu is like the Shorin-Ryu version you showed but the blocks usually stay connected at the part you pointed out. Isshin-Ryu also usually has more sweeps and uses a spear hand in place of the hook punch. I like every version. Great Kata! Thanks again for posting! Keep up the great work!
Glad it was helpful!
i love the side by side comparison illustrating 3 styles of 1 form please do more of these!
Will do!
In Tang Soo Do after the middle block, there is a punch to the groin then when you move it up toward the ear, thar is also a back fist, then we do the back fist forward.
Oh interesting!
Thank you for sharing this side-by-side comparison, this is great shugyo.
Things I´ve noticed
The double block,
the characteristic neihanchi movement seems to me like it was once back in time a Manji uke and was adapted to the stances, wich we now know can change and differ from style to style and practitioner.
Shotokan tekki version is the most obvious one, I thinks it´s called Nagashi Uke
wich is with it´s drawing and striking movement like a Manji Uke, just from a Kiba or Shiko dachi
other two styles are more like Heian 3s double block, also related to Manji Uke, istead from a narrow to a wider stance
I´ve also noticed that when Tekki 1, 2, 3 (Shotokan version) are performed after another, people tend to get lazy and the drawing hand is high in Tekki Shodan, and seems to lower till Tekki Sandan, like Jodan to Chudan;)
oh and Shotokans normal Manji uke looks like Jodan and is done in a Kokotsudachi
other styles use normal Manji Uke chudan in reverse Zenkutsudachi,
once again the technique is adapted to the stances and vice versa
Stepping
Shotokan steps to the side with the weight on the back foot till the last moment, like u checking with the wrong leg if the ice is stable to walk on
other two style put their weight almost immedeatly on the initiale foot, one style a bit early one later.
If you freeze the picture it is a Kosa dachi.
for the ones who have ruined knees and ankles like me, and still want to put your weight on your stepping foot like I do, heres a hint,
when stepping to the right, as soon as my left leg passes my right I turn the right foot 90 degrees to the left on the BALL OF THE RIGHT FOOT (yes on the ball)
so when the left lands its like a stable Kosa dachi, and from there on move with the right.
The Kosa element
the Kosa Element is more or less present in every basic Karate block regardless of style, you always cross your arms. Except Soto Uke, or Uchi Uke I mean the one wich goes from outside to inside, you get my point.
Stances
I think Funakoshi once said something like this, "you can stand every day for one year in a very deep Kiba dachi and still don´t get the essence" so we now know of couse it must be even deeper and much longer:p
neifanshi dachi is like a neutral sanchin, on a line without stepping, a bit wider than a wing chun stance, oh and uechi looks like a powerfull robotic wing chun cousin
Oh my god!!! Thank you soooo much for writing this amazing comment! You surely have abundance of knowledge!
@@KarateDojowaKu Nah I´m just a regular everyday normal german dude, I have the Manji in my blood so to speak;)
Anyways, thank you!!
Oh my God 😯
What a knowledge
I like it ❤❤
Thanks for informing 🤗
Excellent comparison video! Good job!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm a brown belt of traditional Tang Soo Do, one that was taught by Hwang Kee himself to our Master. Our Naihanji Cho Dan Hyung, it seems is closer to the Shotokan in stance and execution, although we usually cross our elbows when we do the inside block, similar to the matsubayashi ryu. Great content by the way!
Outstanding video ... Great Comparisons!
It is a great comparision and quite detailed analysis. I also agree with Kyle on pointing out also the "age style" differences, but I think that you were right on detailing the movements and their implementation as the main difference. I practice Shito Ryu, and that style tries to be "encyclopedic". As such, I can notice ideas from these tree styles in the Naifanchi (as my teacher pronounces it) Shodan that I was taught.
Огромное спасибо за наглядный разбор техники!!!
It's good that you're doing these videos because so many people can learn both different art forms and also try to learn movements in this video. There are many different types of martial arts, which is brilliant as growing up, I went to a few classes, but weren't really deep into it in terms of reaching the goals I wanted. I've always been intrigued by martial arts and watched any and every film to do with martial arts, Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Steven Seagal, Jean Claude Van Damme, etc. For me martial arts is definitely a way of keeping yourself disciplined. Do you have any thoughts on UFC/Bellator/Cage Warriors or any MMA sports at present?
In JKF Wado Kai, we start by raising and circling the hands to the side, ending the movement with an inward circle (bunkai: push up, the arms of your attacker from your shoulder and lock them). We then move our heads side to side, which Iain Abernethy talks about as head control. After this, we move to the sides as usual.
Oh wow! Interesting!
It’s always very good to see how the same kata is presented differently in different styles of karate.
Sure is!
Hopefully you could visit the Isshinryu Dojo of Tsuyoshi Uechi Sensei.
Isshinryu seems to be an interesting style because it seems to be a combination of Goju-ryu & Shorin-ryu
Yes, I would enjoy seeing his instruction. I saw a video of him teaching Hamahiga nu tuifa and it was very useful, though their are some major differences as implied by my choice of language.
Hopefully next time!
Noted!
Excelent analisis. Super. I am waiting to begin working with you soon.
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Amazing!
Thanks to your coverage of Naihanchi I have been practicing it exclusively
Glad to hear that!
This is absolute gold! Having side-by-side comparisons like this is so rare to find, and it's much easier to see the differences and similarities than to try to watch each kata one by one separately.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that in shotokan tekki shodan, there's a lot of a lunging motion when doing the steps, probably due to the wider stances, as compared to naihanchi shodan in both shorin ryu and matsubayashi ryu where it's a planted stomp than a lunge.
I think the Stomp has to do with Okinawan Sumo style. Shiko is a basic Sumo exercise and in Okinawa grappling is important i think that's the main point with the stomps.
I am not a Karate practitioner and I have very limited knowledge/information of the beautiful art. I just want to say that I was a huge fan of the Kamen Rider series especially from Black (1987) until Decade (2009), I can't help but notice that lots of the heroes' poses were similar or at least had a number of references from Karate's katas.
I noticed this the first time when I watched your episode where Shinzato-sensei explained about crossing arms on the blocks, the motions reminded me immediately to Kamen Rider Black RX 's pose (1988). If I had to mention another example, I felt like Kamen Rider Agito (2001) also had many references from Karate when he did the transformation pose but since I have so little knowledge about Karate I can't really point out exactly where. I didn't know about this before, now I know. Thank you for your hard work on this channel!
Great analysis and detail! I practice shotokan, but I prefer the shorin ryu way of doing the morote uke, I can feel more whip.
There are other Shorin Ryu schools that do the nami gaeshi almost in every sidestep. I would like to integrate that as well.
Great to hear that!
I am a
Shotokan style practitioner. I live in Brazil. Here, most Shotokan practitioners follow the JKA lineage. I think this research is very good with the other styles of Okinawa, because Master Funakoshi himself was a researcher.
Nice video!!
Thanks!
In Isshinryu karate we go to the left and have our toes pointed in for the kata. We also do one open hand block instead of the double block sequence.
Wonderful video. I also notice that in naihanchi upper body doesn't move until you are set in stance whereas in tekki upper and lower body motion tend to blend.
Nice. thanks for doing the side by side it’s good seeing that & I hope you do Bassai & Jion too.
Also I’ve noticed this amongst Shotokan practitioners from different schools or organizations that the morote-soto-uke tends to be detach at the end for the first move & stay attached on the next move. Like with Kanazawa & SKIF, but not JKA.
Not sure about the others though.
Oh really! I learned something new! Thanks.
@@KarateDojowaKu you’re welcome. Now rather or not it’s consistent feature I’m not entirely sure but it’s something I’ve noticed in doing research for training,
In my style Shurite Kenpo jitsu it is very similar to shotokan but we use the okinawan name for it. Also the opening is different to all three versions. We have our heels touching and our toes point out. If you look down they look like the letter V. Also our hands come up at eye level with our left hand over our right hand. They are flat stacked on each other with the palms towards our chest. Then with our hands still stack on top of each other they slide down together to cover our groin area.
Great vid🇫🇷👍🏼🍒
Merci!
I am a Thai and I enjoy studying other martial arts. I have noticed that the technique used by the right elders is more advanced and can be more effective in real combat situations. It requires a higher level of skill compared to the center and left channels because it emphasizes using your body to control your stance. In Muay Thai our Kata-like "Wai Kru" movements are based on natural body movements with no myself control
Sensei this is a very good video series. I hope this has been an enriched experience. I will like to point out that on my style "Okinawa Kenpo" after the namigaeshi (hope I spell that right) our arms remaim like in Shotokan, but in the bunkai they separate and become a block and a punch. Well at least in one of the different applications of the move. Just trying to answer your question about how my style does it. Our first move after the first step also similar to Shotokan. The kage tsuki (hook punch) we do like Matsubayashi ryu to allow the "ki" to flow into the opponents body. Our naihanchi dachi are of course short. We (well at least I) teach the blocks crossing as a basic move for beginners and not crossing (except Jodan uke that we cross for all students levels) as an advanced modification. Thank you.
Hi Yusuke, this is a great video and I really liked the details. Maybe is a matter of perspective or camera point, but the first block after the first step seemed different from the Shotokan and the Okinawan styles. While (apparently) the Okinawan block uses the side knuckle from the pointer finger (haito, I guess. Sorry if I don't know the proper names in Japanese, I'm from old style Taekwon-Do), the Shotokan would hit with the back of the hand (haishu?). Would you please comment on that? Again, nice video and channel.
Ian Abernethy and Practical Kata Bunkai: Naihanchi - czcams.com/video/r_EUcSqdeh0/video.html
also taken from Naihanchi -
Practical Kata Bunkai: Some Karate Gripping - czcams.com/video/gUDbCcvmD9I/video.html and czcams.com/video/p5NKlicXFn0/video.html also czcams.com/video/peTXFjuQoUM/video.html
Practical Kata Bunkai: How Pinan Shodan teaches how to get past our enemy’s defences - czcams.com/video/ZNyZhpgaB1o/video.html
A Karate Grappling Drill: Pinan - czcams.com/video/f9wVccbmvEA/video.html
Ours is shotokan but with the matsuyashi style blocking! Pretty interesting how styles change and are passed on.
Interesting!
@@KarateDojowaKu I was thinking about recording our katas so we can compare. Thanks for the videos I always wanted to train in japan. I have been doing karate for 21 years this year.
Tang Soo Do also has Naihanchi Shodan. It's a mix of all 3 of them. Our Stance is more like the Shorin Ryu but the hand position is like shotokan.
This is a great series..any plans on visiting a uechi dojo?
Yes!
Tekki, but leg movements in the middle of the kata aren’t leg sweeps, they are actually inner kicks to the thighs in bunkai application.
Well, the "bunkai" can be anything to be honest as long as it works :)
I am still struggling with the correct application for this movement.
When you watch Funakoshi's video, he retreats and goes up, then goes back to a lower position and stomp. So it is similar to Gankaku/Chinto, where you bring your foot behind your knee, as if to avoid a gedan attack.
But when you read his book from 1925, he says: block the kick of the opponent and then respond with a kick on his leg.
So my own interpretation, given the hands position stay the same until you stomp: while holding the opponent tight, it might very well be a sweep (ashi-barai).
I'd like to see a comparison of the second and thirds forms, but with Shito-ryu included. Their version of Sandan is distinct from all others.
So i come from a Matsumura Seito Shorin-Ryu Lineage that had some heavy Shotokan influence (and possibly Shorinji-Ryu as well), and yet our version of Naihanchi looks more like the Matsubayashi. We use two hands on all of our blocks. But we still have some big differences. Also our first block is down with the forearm almost completely straight upand down with the palm facing out, providing a great area if protection. Our next big difference comes with the leg sweeps. As opposed to starting with the block to the outside, we start with the same double that we kiai with. Then instead of blocking across the body with the 2nd sweep, we instead shift into a in-line front stance and do an augmented upper cut. And i have no idea where the changes/adaptations came from.
小林流から来た流派をやっています。内はかなり上半身と下半身を左右するのが中心。下半身は凄く浮身を使って、ほとんど小林流の先生と同じく。違いはほとんどのステップから蹴りに繋がる。物凄く基本をしっかり練習出来そうから、元々この型が最初学ぶ型だったのが納得行きます。
I find it interesting just how Tekki shodan differs from one shotkan club/ association to another, fonr instance the way the JKA teaches it to how its taught in the UK and KUGB is quite different, in the side steps we swing our legs up and forward before complete the movement, and then in each of the blocks we are taught they are more strikes than blocks.
I’m a Taekwondo student who has Chulki 1 in our curriculum. It is almost exactly the same as your Naihanchi Shodan. We have a straight kick after the hooking punch (which I don’t agree with). We also have an additional movement after the center block coming off of that step.
My TKD school has the same leg kick and I've never seen the point of it either! Otherwise, very similar to Naihanchi. I am seeing a lot of similarities between the TKD I learned and Shotokan.
Interesting!
Nice!
Good one.
Thanks!
I'm going back and rewatching your videos. I noticed on the returning wave kick that you are touching your foot to the inner thigh and not bringing the foot in front of the thigh. I know some styles teach it that way. I was wondering if that is how you were originally taught it since you mentioned before that there are some differences in the way you learned at the university. I think that an interesting video would be to do one on how Gichin Funakoshi originally taught karate and how it changed over time.
We have Tekki Shodan. Our kata includes an outside crescent kick after crossing over. Our inside midblock is more like Matsubayshi then our outside mid block is more similar to yours. I am still wondering where our variation started. We are Shito Ryu but our katas look more like Shotokan than the Shito Ryu.
Interesting!
you mentioned a couple times "rotating the wrist" for a block...something I like to teach is that they are not "blocks" but uke, which I understand as "to receive", meaning we are receiving the attack and we would rotate the wrist accordingly, although by eliminating the rotation or placing a striking surface toward the target we are now using our hikite hand as a block and the other to strike...btw our style looks most similar to Matsubayashi Ryu
Tekki katas were originally called Naihachi. Gichin Funakoshi tried to change all the katas names. Some stuck but some didn't. A change that I always have noticed is that the cup and saucer position is different. In Shotokan the hand placed on top of the hikite is in a hammerfist position. In Okinawan styles the top hand has the fingers touching fingers (sorry for the poor quality explanation). I have often wondered why this change was made. Great job on how you presented the katas. Keep up the good work.
I totally understand your point! Thanks for mentioning it!
We have a version of this in ITF Tae Kwon-Do. A tul called Po Eun. Definitely related!
This was interesting, from outside karate you don't see these differences in style so clearly, as if there was only one style.
Thanks!
It different from my style. I call my style "forgetting the next step technique" 🔥
Haha
I also notice (I don't know if it's the style or the practitioner) Shorin ryu sensei turns his head first AND THEN do the moves while Yusuke-san and Matsubayashi ryu sensei turn their heads and do the moves at the same time
For a really excellent example of the SKA Tekki Shodan, you should see Manfred Chiu’s video. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find it on CZcams. It’s done both slow and fast and Mr. Ohshima does some correction. It’s funny to me how I really like some small movements in the Katas. In Tekki Shodan, after the open hand sweeping block (don’t know the Japanese name of the block) we have a small movement before the elbow attack. The blocking hand does a little rotation as if to move the hand to the back of the target so you can pull the target to the elbow attack. I noticed that you don’t do that move. I’ll have to buy another copy of Karate Do Kyohan for my Texas house so I can review more of the Japanese names of the techniques.
I see! Thanks for letting me know! If you find a link online, please share it on this comment section!
I train both IsshinRyu and Tang Soo Do. Tang So Doo's Naihanchi is straight out of Shotokan. More than likely due to the influence of the Japanese Occupation from 1909-1945. Isshinryu has differences in the A) direction of attack {starts off going left}, B) stance (very narrow with toes pointed inward) and C) strikes (nikite strikes instead of punches). Thank you!
There are also some difference in the way Kyokushin does this kata. Its similar to how Oyama learned it in shotokan but made the 1st block in a over hand movement
Very interesting. How do these compare to Motobu’s version?
Shorin Ryu/Matsubayashi Shorin Ryu are almost identical except Matsubayashi version has the "Naihanchi Stomp" done with the outside of the foot. Matsubayashi is Shorin Ryu as well, but the Sensei with just Shorin Ryu is an older version, either Shobayashi or Kobayashi. In Kobayashi there are numerous lineages like Shorinkan, Shidokan, Kyudokan.
Our version of Naihanshi is a slight combination of all three. We also get a HUGE amount of hip movement on the crossover leg transitions.
You're right.
I guess that's an import aspect of Naihanchi/Tekki Shodan, hardly training the legs with this parallel low stance while simultaneously using MASSIVELY hip movements for effective upper-body technics.
I see!
I agree, and that's what makes this kata very hard
One thing you did not mention was the hand position on the initial block. They did it palm up and you thumb up. I learned palm up. I may not be phrasing this correctly, but I once heard that Japanese styles focus more on correct form, and Okinawan on correct function. Your version, as you do it, is the most nice looking,. Whether it is the most practical, I don't know enough to say. One other thing, I thought Shorin-ryu did the best hook punch because he had more body torque behind the strike. IMO, no one throws a better hook than the boxing style.
Oh! I think I mentioned that in the video! The Okinawan styles are using the back fist for the block, and we're using the wrist to block :)
Your leg blocks were to the inside of the leg where as the other two styles are more to the front of the body. I do JKS Shotokan and we do the legs blocks/barai in front like the Okinawans
I see! Thanks for the analysis!
In Matsumura Shorin Ryu there is another strike before the double punch/strike at the end.
you are the best yusuke
haha thanks!
Shorin Ryu's version looks more effective and fluent, actually. While the leg sweep from Shotokan looks spectacular , Shorin Ryu aims for stability and energy-saving, couple that with the natural breathing and you got yourself something strong to break an adversary...Shorin Ryu is on another level.Simple, good looking, but mostly effective.MAtsubayashi Karate makes me think, their blocks in naihanchi are also designed to kick or kill, they look like attacks.
Shorin-ryu Supremacy!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
interesting video comparison. the practitioner you call shorin-ryu, which branch of shorin-ryu is he representing? Shorin-ryu typically consists of several different styles falling under the general name "Shorin-Ryu" such as Matsubayshi-ryu, Kobayashi-ryu, Shobayashi-ryu & Matsumura orthodox. All of these are considered different styles or schools of Shorin-Ryu. Which ryu is he representing?
Kobayashi!
Hey! I would like to see some combinations on your channel!
What kind of combinations are you talking about?
The wadō-ryū version actually is quite different from all of these, because our version comes from Motobu Chōkis version.
So modern Motobu-Ryū and wadō-ryū are the two main lineages of Motobu Chōkis version of the kata.
It comes from the time Ōtsuka (wadō-ryūs founder) spent time training under Motobu Chōki. And training under Chōki is supposedly one of the big reasons why there was a rift between Funakoshi and Ōtsuka.
And Õtsuka went on to found hi own style, of what would be known as wadō-ryū.
I believe Funakoshi and Ōtsuka already wasn’t seeing eye to eye with how Ōtsuka wanted to hold trainings and put more focus on kumite.
But training with Motobu Chōki, as I understand it didn’t help, and I believe was a bit of a last straw.
I like this concept ❤
You compare your moves to another
By doing this we can compare the movement of different styles...
The styles movement are good and so powerful
And there is a different of movement
I found that there is something different in the movement of each style and...
I thought it is only for the purpose of something.
But for what purpose that's I don't know 🙄
So please give information about it
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Shotokan version looks powerful with the more snappy look to the kata, It makes it better to look at in my opinion. Not saying the other versions aren't powerful though
It also does not help that the other 2 are much older then him. If you watch other younger people do it there is much kore snap in their kata
@@Abluemoon9112 Yeah I know that, but I have watched other versions from all 3 styles before, and I still think that Shotokan version does look stronger, even if it is just more cosmetic in appearance.
@@seculardojo7738 I think Shotokan has a better flow in movement then the other two. Shorin ryu movement is "slower" then shotokan.
@@Abluemoon9112 I completely agree.
@@seculardojo7738 The reason the Shotokan version is more powerful is because he is Young and...
another reason may be he's face expression.
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This does not mean that the movement of the other 2 styles is not powerful but they are old and their face expressions are not exactly the same so they may not show power.
It's my thought so...please 🙏
Don't take it to heart❤❤
so during a competition, which variation will be accepted?
Kata was designed by Motobu c. And is supposed to be facing the opponent sideways . A legs wide opened won't help at close quarters.
First technique, your striking surface of the hand is different. Shorin is also using a tatooe.. a hammer fist, not a back fist on the last bit before the change of directions.
Do you in shotokan do more of the whipping of the hips than the other styles?
Compared to these two, yes
You move like Tekken 3 Jin Kazama.
Haha thanks!
Besides differences in ages (ergo, speed and mobility) Tekki IS Nainfanchi. I guess application (bunkai) would explain the differences in approach.
The 2 punches to the side at the same time need to look like punches with focus, penetration and pull back, or at least I think these are punches. Not just thrown that way but punch that way.
I agree!
Hi sensei (I read in one of the sites that former karate fighter goshi Yamaguchi was able to defeat the tiger animal in real combat when he entered the Union army
The Soviets have the tiger. Is this true and how did this Yamaguchi fighter defeat the tiger?
In my humble opinion, the Shotokan style of this kata is more powerful, a bit more technically difficult to perform and is more aesthetically pleasing.
I see! Thanks for sharing your opinion!
It is also because the master doing the shotokan one, he does the moves with more power. It was missing some energy for the two other masters in order to be 100% comparable.
I noticed that your movements are a lot faster and more explosive. Is that a personal thing or is it part of your style?
it is part of the shotokan not the personal thing
Well, age for sure. But it's also a characteristic of Shotokan
thanks for answering!
Pt. 2 Matsubayashi Ryu is Shorin-Ryu. There wasn't a need for you to distinguish the two. Shorin-Ryu Karate has 3 main branches: Matsubayashi-Ryu, Kobayashi-Ryu, and Shobayashi-Ryu respectively but it is all Shorin-Ryu. The 3 different branches of the Shorin-Ryu ryuha are a result of 3 different disciples of a common Master, Matsumura-sama if I'm not mistaken.
Any idea why Kyokushin style doesn't practice Naihanchi??? When I look at Naihanchi I see a total matching with kyokushin!
Idk if this is really a difference per sé, but the other two styles seemed slower than shotokan. I’m currently training in shotokan myself, and for my up coming test, they want me to be fast with my kata like how you were. Myself, I don’t really like that. Slower movements can let the technique settle in as well, this is also been my struggle to prep for my test. So I guess this is more of an opinion than a difference, but I like the way the other two styles seem to go at a slower pace when performing the kata
From my perspective, when you're learning the kata, you should perform it as fast as possible WHILE maintaining the technique. So if you feel like you're going too fast for the techniques to be "settled", then you should slow down.
@@KarateDojowaKu wise words. I’ll keep that in mind for sure. I’m new to karate and always wanted to learn and add it to my training. It’s certainly a new world for me tho lol
I likes shotokan
That's great!
How do you feel from the difference in force on the strength of form?
Shorin Ryu felt very similar, however for Matsubayashi Ryu, I needed to control my relaxation a little differently.
Kata performance of Shotokan style is a lot more tense than the other two styles. The other styles are slower and more relaxed.
About the stance: Funakoshi sensei also had narrower and taller stances. Shotokan probably have changed their stance after Funakoshi sensei.
They did, mostly in part thanks to Funakoshi's son. If you look at videos of Gigo performing Kata you will see his stances are much deeper than his father.
Hello just curious why the Shotokan on the side step raise the leg very high.
I think one reason would be to use the momentum going down to move further to the side
Shotokan had the flat hand, the others had a palm facing up. What are the applications?
I notice that Shotokan doesn’t move like a human ‘animal’. I mean a lot of tension you wouldn’t get in a tiger or ape. It looks like someone imitating the form if they didn’t know it and learned it from a book...or maybe did it for TV where it has to look dynamic without having the core.
In the early days of Taekwondo we actually did the Tang Soo Do version called Chulgi. Here's my video showing how we did it (the first couple minutes shows the form and then a seminar on the execution). czcams.com/video/53ywdBXAEQE/video.html
Yes, the same
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Thanks!
Sir can you make shito ryu annan dai kata's video
I'm not from Shito Ryu, but once I can invite a guest, sure!
Are you going to do uechi-ryu?
Yes!
Today I became late! But next day I will be first 💛
So close!
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Will you be going to Shorin Ryu Seibukan Dojo? Sensei Zempo Shimobukuro's Dojo.
Not this time!
@@KarateDojowaKu okay👍🇮🇳
I am shorin ryu
Nice!