The dial is also really useful for 3D apps that use the middle mouse button/scrolling a ton! Kudos to Asus for creating a laptop that is actually useful for 3D design!
5:55 you say there’s no manual control on the macbook to adjust keyboard backlight brightness. while apple did remove the function key for it & replaced it with a different system function, you can still adjust manually via the action center with software controls. small inaccuracy, but great video overall!
How come? Serious question from a long time Windows and Linux user. I've only recently started using Mac OS but I'm loving it, it gives you the functionality and speed of Linux with the ease of Windows.
@@helpmelivebros737 Yeah, switched to Mac this year after over 20yrs with windows. It was hard for month before I becomes more familiar with MacOS... Surprisingly except Total Commander, I have all apps on MacOS. And I do not really need Total Commander at all, last few years I used it just as FTP client
Correction: I believe the MacBook Pro’s keyboard backlight is still adjustable, except they did indeed do away with the dedicated buttons and it’s now done in software, in the Control Centre.
As a 3D artist and animator who also likes gaming on the side, if I had to pick one I would pick the ProArt laptop one. Although I love Apple's design and battery life. The price is also more affordable with ProArt compared to Apple.
funy thing is, its not even used in this video. this video shows result on CPU VS CPU.. the RTX would finish any davinci or other processing task that can use GPU, 10 to 15 times faster.
@@laurentiudll Same as M1 can utilize its GPU, during encoding GPU is usually maxed out, not CPU, but... M1 Pro and M1 Max have dedicated encoders/decoders for this specific worklload, so CPU, GPU and Neural Engine can compute effects, color grading, stabilisation and object AI tracking
Being in the 3k+ price range and talking about workstations you should really consider including HP-Z, ThinkPads and Precision laptops while doing these comparisons. At this price range we are not talking about regular consumer or gaming products anymore. Nice review regardless 👍🏻
I think Apple offers a very strong value proposition with the M1 Air base model, and it's possible to get into their ecosystem for cheaper if one waits well after release day to buy their products at a good discount.. goes for iPad Pro, iPhone, and especially Apple Watch which really lose their value quite a bit after the first 12-18 mos. If you get just the cpu/ram/ssd you need for the immediate future and can wait until the product has been out for a while to get the best deals, then the depreciation factor is much less and you get the niceties that comes with Apple devices.
One important thing he left out in this comparison was if he did his initial tests at 100 battery plugged in or not. PC laptops with discrete GPU tend to drop off the table when unplugged. If you compare them unplugged, like how most people would use a laptop, it's hard to compete with the new M1 chips. I've always been a PC/Android person, but I did get the new 16 in M1 Pro MacBook, and I have to say, between the build quality, battery life, and performance, it's a beast, and I don't regret buying it one bit.
He also only used the cpu in the Windows machine. He wasn’t even using the gpu which in the rendering areas are like 10x faster lol. Even if it halves the overall performance if he actually used the gpu, it’s still faster than cpu rendering on the Mac. He literally only used cpus in these tests. No actual pro would do that.
@@itsacookie1 this is true the camera will still be shit and the speakers but the stuff that matters like rendering times will be so much better with quattro or even using the GPU at all. kind of shit comparison tbh
@@chancemcclendon3906 Sure, but it is applied to MBP too. There are few things which are imposible on ProArt - power consumption and related noise and... battery perfromance. For those who like quiet computer and rely on battery performance, there is mostly no Windows laptop to match MBP... I switched to Macbook Air this year after over 20yrs with windows just becouse MBA is absolutely silent, any noise and it perfroms, except gaming, mostly same as my old gaming desktop with 8700k and my current one with 10400F... Desktop power packed in tiny and lightweight body with no noise was my dream.
@@-Blue-_ You can, but not that small, not that effecient, anyway, I still talking about ultrabook laptop, not about some SFF/MFF/stick form factor. I want portable all in one device, MBA form factor is ideal.
I am a film production/animation student and I use a 16" MacBook Pro with a top spec M1 max. while it is still a lot slower for animation render than a windows laptop of the same price it is still fast enough in blender for previews which is all I would use a laptop for and has wicked speed for calculating simulations and video exports. the trackpad does not need the middle click in blender as I can orbit the viewport just by dragging two fingers around the trackpad which is nice
My main issue with going with Apple is that I don't have a Apple ecosystem. I love my Android and Windows setup and whenever I try to send files from or to Mac it always gives me issues
Yeah it’s this way on purpose. Apple really would be the best if it had the system of a android or windows. Otherwise the negatives for me outweigh the positives. I shouldn’t need a apple device to make me buy even more devices to mean something which seems to be the majority of peoples reasons even tho I’m sure most people who got a iPhone don’t even have other apple products. Android and windows to me are still better even with the negatives they also have.
I have been a windows user for years (Still use for work) I got the new M1 Air - What a device... I can do all my work with a single charge and end of the day I will still have at least 40 or 50% left- Its just unbelievable.
I bought apple macbook pro on 2 occasions but always return it because the apps i need doesnt run natively on mac and it sucks. I really like the built of macbooks.
I have the 16" base with 1TB. I got it the day it came out and I'm still in love. I'm old tech wise, was programming as a kid in the 70s, have been building PCs since the 80s and used every type of system and OS around. I hadn't had a Mac since the late 90s and MacOS plus these new chips makes them hands down the best personal computers, laptop or no, that I have ever used. Now if they would just game a little better I could get rid of my gaming desktop.... however I have a feeling it will be quite sometime, if ever, before we get to that point.
Apple will never be on the same level as Nvidia for gaming. Ain't happening. If Apple wanted to pursue that they would have; instead, they focus on iOS gaming and basic mobile games. I have a MacBook for dev and portability and a custom rig with Windows/Linux for desktop dev and gaming. Two different beasts.
@@rockysmith9286 You never know bro. Back in the days I've always thought nothing could top intel but AMD did it and Apple came out with their own chip. Its better for the global consumers if Apple enters gaming
@@rockysmith9286 Stupid take as always , they said that about AMD and they are on the verge of catching up with both Intel and Nvidia …if Apple wanted to they could..they have 300 billion in cash..they could pluck Nvidias engineers tomorrow
@@rockysmith9286 They could do it if they wanted to, you said “never” so that statement is idiotic to say the least. Just like in 1997 media said apple will “ never” beat Motorola in the phone business look at it now, never say never things can change in a blink of an eye with tech …especially with 300 billion cash
I have a Zephyrus G14 with Ryzen 9 and purchased the MBP14 and dude... the MBP surprised me, even above the Zephyrus. Totally recommended for everything that doesn't involve hardcore gaming
Do you have the zephyrus 2022? Seems a nice laptop... I want to do some VR programming as hobby and I'm between the zephyrus G14 2022 and the MacBook pro 14 😬
@@clagccs between those two, get the macbook pro 14, unity runs in M1 like butter and blender too. I'n finally using the G14 only for gaming since the programming stuff runs better in the MBP14
@@haizalio5101 some CPU based engines such as Corona are really amazing for what they are, but still pale in comparison to those that utilize OptiX, especially when Octane is free for Blender, and Cycles X is also pretty good
i work in the 3D rendering industry and no one renders on CPU anymore bad comparison. Also no one uses mac for productivity because its just worst in compatibility and expanstion.
"MacOS games" 🤦🏽♂️.... For normal guys like me, who are gamers, and do photography or are creators, it's a no contest. I'd rather have the gaming laptop and save $$. No hate on Apple. It's a beautiful machine.
I‘ve played games on a Mac since MacOS 7… it’s possible but you are limited in the quantity and sometimes had to wait years for a port. On the other hand the review is about Laptops, which are always second or even third choice to play Games on (Performance, Heat, Noise, …)
Omo I love ur voice..... it's not loud and not too low, it's soft but commanding enough to make me listen, not so fast but fast enough to make me not feel bored and it's so clear plus you speak so well
$600 difference between them. That's what I paid for my laptop which is fine. But you also fail to mention how much it costs to repair them and warranty. We all know apple repairs are silly prices. Apart from that very very good review.
@@krazymeanie a laptop like the pro art ages like all other computers. As long as the workflow doesn’t demand more than it’s capable of giving it’ll do the job just as well day one as it does three-five years from now. This isn’t a cheap laptop with a hard drive and no gpu. It’s a high core count with a high end gpu with SSDs. This will age just as well as the max will lol. The mac is the same way, if the program suddenly needs more than it can offer it’s not magic. It’ll perform within the same parameters it was designed to perform in.
The M1 Pro is the low end model for the 16 inch MacBook. You could spend a lot more money and get twice the GPU and 4X the memory on the MacBook and you can get the same performance in a 14” form factor. When I’m at home, I’m working on a 32” 4K monitor, and when I’m traveling I want light and compact. I have the 14”. I’d be curious how the ASUS performed with an external 4K monitor, as that is what brought my Intel/AMD system to it’s knees - there is no detectable performance difference with the M1. The biggest benefit for the ASUS for me is that it is upgradable, but I’m not sure I would want to carry the extra bulk and weight for that. Looks like either would be a good option, depending on your priorities. Great review.
The battery life, responsiveness, and efficiency of the MacBook Pro 16’ feels like a work of magic in person. The fans rarely kick in, even when doing more intensive tasks, the device barely gets warm, and the standby time is more like an iOS device than a typical laptop. It’s just a marvel of design.
@@DarkPhychic using it alongside my 1ms 240hz Alienware monitor i really can’t tell much of a difference. That would only be a problem if you’re gonna game on the MacBook , in that case it would suck
This is really a great review and comparison video!!! As an architecture student, I just switched from MacBook Pro to ASUS ProArt StudioBook because some of the 3D modeling softwares and rendering softwares run better on windows system.
how much different would it run? I am in land surveying and mainly so far I will be using is AutoCAD Civil 3D and other programs like mathlab. I have a dedicated PC but I was wondering how the Macbook held up to those programs. I heard, while not completely supported it still runs well just slightly more waiting. So I was thinking I can use the MBP as just to tweak some things and have my PC be the brunt of the project. Since I think overall MBP is a better in terms of the synergy of hardware and software. But for professional for engineering is 50/50.
The response time on the MacBook Pro display is horrendous Most 1440p monitor with fast refresh rate have real world response time of around 5-10ms but the Macbook take as much as 100ms for a full transition. So basically, the 120hz refresh rate is pretty much useless, look at the review over hardware unboxed
Trying to find the point of "measured response times" as a factor of importance over color accuracy, contrast and gamut in a professional laptop. Still trying.....nope!
@@HardwareCanucks Don't get me wrong, the Macbook Pro screen win in every other category but at what cost ?! You get ghosting while watching any movie and even while browsing the internet, forget about gaming or in any fast paced type of content. Anyway, my point is that 120hz is pretty much false advertising because the response time of the screen can't match the required pixel transition speed. If you think I'm over exaggerating, then let's put that into context. Would you like to be a really muscular/athletic guy, with a really handsome face and a great job, make alot of money but you're only 5'2 ?! That's basically the Macbook Pro 16'' screen.
Your comment is completely valid with regards to the mac's awful pixel response and hence ghosting affecting real world use-cases like simply scrolling a web page or watching a movie. But you mentioned hardware unboxed here. Oppsie!
Apple made the choice to do efficiency, quiet, and battery life. It will be interesting to see what happens with a Mac Pro or a new iMac with larger heat sink. Will they be able to increase clock speed at all? Or will they just go with more cores like the laptops... Still, the quality is great but is really expensive. If they were $500 cheaper the MacBook Pros would be much easier to recommend.
I'm a moron so I go for the M1 Max for better consistent performance in World of Wacraft while that could have been achieved for halft the price on a PC laptop ;)
I went from gaming laptops to a 14in MacBook Pro and the thing that still has me giddy is the battery life. I love my now older gaming laptop it still gets it done, but even brand new I had better be near an outlet.
yet under heavy workloads, someone tested and got 1.5 hours out of it on battery. for moderate loads maybe 5-6 hours on 16" M1 Pro. Web browsing and video playback, it can do between 8-10 hours, which is pretty good. i guess the question would be: how much will one truly expect to be unplugged on the go, and needing max performance while out and about somewhere without an outlet? answering that accurately may determine if its worth the premium demanded by Apple. don't get me wrong, it's an excellent product within the bounds that it's designed for.
@@StefanUrkel lol … nobody max gpu/cpu 100% for 1.5hrs straight nonstop. That’s not a real work test. Most likely running cpu/gpu benchmark concurrently Try that on a windows laptop, see how much work you get done without a plug 🔌 🤡
@@matthewcombs5065 do you run your laptop cpu/gpu simultaneously at 💯 for 1.5hrs straight without special cooling? If you do, why not just get a desktop? I’m pretty certain your PC laptop would have melted and the fan would explode if it doesn’t throttle down to 30% performance. Just admit it’s true … “fanboi”. Making factual statement isn’t being a fanboi. It’s called “keeping it real”
I like this review, and although I don't think there is an intended bias, it sounds like this guy prefers to use his Mac, over the Asus. Which is not an issue, but the way he describes the Mac is sometimes odd, and opinionated. For instance, when he talks about the trackpad, he brings up emotions that the computer makes him feel, but as someone who isn't really a fan of Mac os, it is the opposite, so it felt weird hearing it in a comparison review. Other than that this review felt fairly unbiased and one of the best I've seen. Great work
The cheaper device even performing in the ballpark, let alone occasionally winning is a win for the cheaper device. The fact that the Asus has replaceable components is also a huge win. Besides the ability to upgrade, NAND and DRAM can fail. At least a failure of a removeable module means the device can be repaired at lower cost and in faster time. Worse is the main board can fail locking your data to a dead board when its soldered on. Having serviced a number of devices that fall victim to "being in the presence of humans", SS storage survives a decent amount of the time. It sure is nice to be able to pull it out and plug in to an enclosure with a standard interface. The only thing I care about with the mag safe is that the LED is a diagnostic tool. So it was definitely missed when servicing Macs that don't have it. Anything else about it is a novelty. Also, screw glued down batteries.
I would be disappointed if a prosumer was doing work and not having backups, so that issue is moot for me. I back everything in real time and I would recommend that if you do stuff on a laptop for a living, and these pro devices are mostly aimed at that market. As for upgrading RAM, prosumers will just max out what they need and just pay what it costs as it is how they make money. For extra storage, just use TB4, that is what it is for. I have been running an old iMac off TB1 for many years and it remains fast enough. If you look after your battery it should last. I use an app to stop charging at 85% and my 6 year old MB Pro 15 still has over 87% capacity. Again, prosumers will upgrade regular or pay the Apple servicing costs as it is as simple as making an appointment in your lunch break, if like me, you have three outlets within 30 mins. As for failure of NAND and DRAM, never happened to me, what are the stats on failure rates? You need to reference that because if it is under 1% (possible) then most of us will prefer the low-latency, cheaper cost and performance advantages of unified SoC. I feel that these excuses for dumping on Apple in every review are just from Windows fans that cannot accep a different way of doing stuff and just want a generic laptop. You have choices so simply buy into the Apple philosophy or buy something else, and stop the whining as many of us are happy with the way Apple is going and it gives us a great alternative beyond Windows.
@@andyH_England Why do it yourself for free when you can pay apple to do it for you right ? I mean ofcourse you wouldn't run out of storage or findout you need more ram down the road or anything and if so you can buy as much as you need right away it's not like apple charges you 400$ for 16gb of extra ram or 400$ for 1tb of extra storage it's CHEAPER unified soc after all...
"The cheaper device" would win in any gpu intensive task you can name he even ran 3D render benchmarks on CPU rather than the RTX 3070 which would have been 10x faster than either of the cpu results.
@@andyH_England I repair computers for a living. Apple is a huge part of the devices I work on. I don't know about being a windows fan, but I'm totally against supporting anti consumer companies. My shop is a few blocks from an Apple store, and it's hilarious the lies they feed their customers just to attempt to sell them a new device as opposed to offering any kind of reasonable repair. Not everyone that buys a thing is the target demographic, and a lot of people don't think about a backup before they've experienced data loss. It's why data recovery is a good business. While Apple finally makes a thing that goes inside their computers, the RAM and Nand is still made by someone else. Instead of using M.2, when Apple first started using removable Solid state storage they made several proprietary connectors that did nothing special beside let them control the price of what was otherwise a SanDisk or Samsung SSD. I've pulled and replaced a number of those due to failure. It's a huge pain in the ass to need a matching computer to read one of those drives before a compatible enclosure exists. There are like 6 different versions of Apple's nameless proprietary storage connection. The one closest to an M.2 slot eventually had a 3rd party make an adapter so an off the shelf nvme drive could be slotted inside the Mac. Now they solder in the storage. Those drives are in the Mac Pro though, and they've apparently designed it so that replacements have to be blessed by one of their priests in the apple store to even work. Not a windows fan, just don't like enriching shit companies that mistreat their consumers.
Imagine how much faster the M1 max is going to be. I use my computers for gaming, so a Macbook is a no go. However I can't deny that it is the better computer for work and casual use.
@@KrusssH I really don’t know you… I don’t know how easy it might be for you to save up extra $200-300 so u can buy a refurbished/new M1 MacBook Air, the base model… that’s the best value for money laptop a casual user can get, it doesn’t get hot, the battery lasts 18 hours…. Another part people barely talk about when talking about MacBook compared to windows is the pre-installed software that comes for free like Pages, Keynote, Numbers, GarageBand and iMovie… this softwares doesn’t come for free on windows, u need to pay for similar softwares like Microsoft packages and 3rd party softwares, so just try and save up to $900 for the M1 MacBook Air, it’s worth it
@@willy7968 Windows have plenty of free alternative softwares which you can choose from. And my point is, is it really worth to spend 300$ extra, for browsing and casual use? I'd rather spend these 300$ with a new phone.
Great video Ebert, but it looks like someone is a little bias towards Macs. LOL. I'll stick with my ASUS products. I just wonder if the upgraded display with a 120 refresh rate of ASUS, would make any difference. Thank you for the AWESOME review, between the 2 OS's as well.
Love your reviews. A little disappointed with the "it's not optimized yet" excuses for the Mac while downplaying the ProArt laptop's wins in this review though. The results are usually presented in a much less biased way.
@@bfvader I see more comments about his style in this video and I saw them reply in a way that didn't show any care about critical viewers at all. I don't care so much about their preference for the Macbook in this video, but just be neutral when you call it a comparison. There's absolutely nothing wrong with preferring a product even when it's not superior in some way. My 2012 Mazda is far from perfect and some other cars are probably better, but I still woudn't trade it in :) I'll check out the next few videos to see if these are more transparent/honest. Everyone should get a chance to learn and grow right?
As a Mac user I might be a bit biased, but I have used windows for almost all my life up to just a few years ago - but I genuinely cannot understand why anyone would choose a windows laptop for video editing, photo editing, etc?? That fan noise is deafening! And the laptop HAS to be plugged in to get that power and honestly what is the point??!! If it has to be tethered to a wall at all times, why not just buy a desktop?! And if you really work mobile all the time, how can you possibly justify not choosing the MacBook for that?! It’ll keep 100% power even unplugged while staying completely silent - total no brainer to me
I live in a country where the pay isn't that high. Sorry to slap you off your high horse there. Hell, a mobile desktop is still better than nothing. Apple is way more expensive but then again, all tech stuff is getting pricier but still , cheaper to get a windows laptop than a MacBook. If the difference is just a few seconds , than to me , it's not worth paying a little extra. For some that little is enough to feed them for a month. So now you can brain why windows still can win .
But you can adjust the keyboard brightness manually on the MacBook? you need to click on the settings button on the top right near the clock. But I will say, I would have much preferred it being on the function keys instead.
Both the Pro Art and MBP are both stunning in every way possible. It ultimately comes down to the OS you like working with. Sorry to make it so simple 😂
I’ve had a 14 MB Pro for 2 months… Current Intel users looking to switch…..look real hard and double confirm that any Intel based software you use daily works. And no, I don’t mean if it’s on Rosetta 2….because I ran into quite a few software that are LITERALLY UNUSABLE ON ROSETTA 2. To the point, where I have to use 2 laptops and probably just going to go back to Intel or AMD until I know software is TRULY optimized.
Awesome video! I really love how you put things into perspective with the comparison to an Asus laptop with a similar target audience! Keep up the good stuff:D
Great video. But, the gaming thing is incomplete. There are couple of ways to handle it on Mac OS ( like parallels, crossover etc.) that should be considered.
No surprise here, the Windows laptop have more features for creators and would have been a better choice than any Intel MacBook Pro, but... Apple M1 is just a game changer.
I was actually expecting a bigger difference in performance, given that the laptop is much cheaper. And it is upgradable which is great. But don't get me wrong, Apple's new M1's are great, too bad that the base specs are ridiculous. If something goes wrong after the warranty, you're screwed.
I enjoyed this comparison a lot, but I just have to mention... that it seemed at least a bit biased, like being quite apologetic for Apple etc, and somehow neglecting the RTX 3070. Like I do like what is Apple doing with M1 chips, but not even mentioning anything about GPU etc seemed quite odd.
They do a lot of pro-Windows videos. I think they, just like the majority, are caught up in Apple's M1 hype right now. I'm all for it because it will force Intel/AMD to follow and in the end the consumer wins.
The laptop camera /speaker test should have been done at the same angle to background so that it was a proper experiment with reduced and controlled variables
A wise professional will buy the best tools that he or she can afford. if you use software that runs only on macOS or runs better on it, you will buy a Mac, the best Mac you can. If this isn;t the case, you will buy a Windows or Linux x86 machine. A photo/video professional might be happy with a Mac, but what about someone who runs CAE software such as ANSYS? Also, at the moment, Apple silicon is made in a smaller lithography. This benefits power consumption, thermals, noise, etc.
Where the hell did you get a Pro Art??? I've been waiting for months?! I swear it's like all the reserved devices are being sent out to reviewers than customers lol
And that is the M1 Pro! Imagine the M1 Max, it would smoke the other laptop(s). I have the M1 Max 64GB... and sometimes I think there is something wrong, because what you can do with the machine is out of this world. Very good comparison and video, love it!
I just discovered this laptop and this is a great comparison. I kinda wish you kept it more price similar tho on the Mac side and used a more base model 16", even with lower ram and storage.
@@jesusbarrera6916 it's the pro art, it's made for art and artistic media. Despite the MacBook Pro being called the MacBook Pro, it's also designed for general use, so overall it's a better package
Apple gained so many advantages since they've stood out by renewing their technology earlier than the others. This is new M1 vs old 5900HX and I believe the most accurate comparison of the two ecosystem will be early next year when Alder Lake-M launches!
@@frostilver No because it's not. The A13 is a one year older architecture and the A14 is about 20% faster. The M1 Pro & M1 Max literally uses the same Firestorm P-cores and Icestorm E-cores that the A14 in the iPhone 12 used (and G13 based graphics cores), whereas the newly released A15 that's currently in the iPhone 13 series and iPad mini uses the Avalanche P-cores and Blizzard E-cores & G14 graphics cores (and A13 used Lightning P-cores & Thunder E-cores). Admittedly the performance discrepancy between Firestorm and Avalanche isn't that high, with Avalanche being only 8% faster due to solely higher clock speed, but its efficiency *is* improved and the Blizzard E-core is ~30% faster than the Icestorm E-core. It's rumored that Apple is going to adopt an 18-month cadence when it coms to Mac processors so for the M2 Pro & Max you'll have to wait till 2023 when they adopt an even newer A16-based architecture, which to me isn't a problem because the M1 Pro & Max will be the efficiency kings for a *while*, and a lot of apps still haven't even properly taken advantage of the M1's architecture yet, esp. in terms of the GPU.
@@utubekullanicisi What I meant is that Apple isn't and probably won't be leaping much on the fundamental architecture, which is something like big.Little arch for their arm processors, in the near future, where Intel will probably revolutionize the current x86 laptop industry by bringing big.Little to their processors. This means crazy efficiency and arm like battery life compared to the prev x86 arch, and that's where the new battle between arm & x86 on mobile devices begins.
I switched to this new macbook pro 14 just this month. Been windows user my whole life, a pc enthusiast. Have never owned an apple product before. What pushed me to this switch is that at first i bought a decently powerfull yet portable Lenovo with 5800h processor and rtx3060 at around 2000usd. The laptop had fans constantly running, the batterylife was very poor and the trackpad was just plain awefull. Returned the Lenovo and searched for something else decided to try the new macbook. I was fully prepared to hate it but its actually unbelievable how much better it is for about 500usd more than lenovo in every single aspect except for gaming. I have never heard the fans, the screen is amazing, battery lasts ridiculously long, the speakers. Mac Os is not perfect and theres definitely many stupid little things wrong with it but overall its very usable. If you are not satisfied with your windows laptop especially regading noise and thermals give the new macbooks a try.
Hello, great video for the really masters in the market right now, but you said the proart which you tried has raid 0 ! What is the name of the model pls, coz my friend bought the one which comes with pci 3
Just trusting those benchmarks you put up there. When compared with M1 Pro, I see the ProArt 16 doesn't fall behind much in Davinci Resolve. The ProArt 16 review and benchmark tests by Pixel village tells a whole different story though. A Canon R5 4K H.265 10 bit RAW footage was not only hard to edit, but also failed to scrub through the Adobe Premiere Pro timeline even at half the resolution. This was SOOC without transcoding or creating proxies. The same footage was a piece of cake for M1 Max. I heard that Davinci Resolve and FCP are better optimized for CPU and GPU balanced performance than the Adobe Premiere Pro.
Great comparison review, thank you. 🙏🏽 I have the same spec 16” MB Pro and it’s brilliant, just as you say. Apple totally won 2021 but as a previous owner of 3x XPS laptops I’d say to anyone that needs Windows or wants to game on their laptop: start saving now. 2022 is the year that Intel, AMD & Nvidia will strike back. A year from now, could be a whole different story. This is a great time to be a tech consumer. We’re so very lucky.👍🏽
The new MacBooks are a game changer. Give me Apple Silicon performance and battery on a XPS. I just don't like MacBook design. Feels bland and outdated. One of the reason why I always ran hackintoshes on my laptops.
The sound test is louder on the Asus because of the powerful RTX 3070 and the 5900hx combo generates alot of heat way more than the M1 of course its fans are louder compared to Macbook with its weaker GPU which cannot touch the RTX 3070 in gaming. Even though the 3070 is 110w still gaming wise the Pro Art 3070 smokes the M1 Macbook in gaming. You're better off pitting the M1 Macbook to the amd 5980hx/ 5900hs that windows Laptops are touting like in the Asus Zephyrus g14/g15 or Razer Blade with higher end display panels 165hz QHD and or 4k panels and long battery life with an RTX 3060 or 3070.
@@YungJoga You always want the most versatile machine for your money Id prefer a laptop like the Pro Art that does content creation design/ productivity and gaming all in one the Pro Art fits the bill.
2:00 my £170 ultrabook has wayyy less keyboard flex than that XD (it is a thinkpad to be fair but it's also literally half the weight and a fair bit thinner than the asus...) 7:00 my thinkpad also has the middle button, I have to admit, i dont really use it but it's kinda nice to have and kinda useful as an extra hotkey i guess
Great video, it is super informative and really stylish too which made it easy to watch from start to finish. (An editor note: I saw “Performance” at 12:39 was spelled wrong but that’s just me being nit picky and giving unwarranted feedback lol) Awesome video and thank you for creating this, going to be buying a laptop soon👌🏾
Both of these laptops are incredible. The MacBook Pro tries to be the pro laptop for as many professionals as possible, while the ProArt tries to target a more specific pro audience that use 3D rendering & engineering software (which is awesome, every niche audience deserves their own niche laptop!). The ProArt laptop is thicker, trying to provide as much modularity in a modern laptop as possible with M.2 SSD and SODIMM RAM slots, while the MBP tries to be as lightweight and small a pro machine can get while still being able to provide the biggest battery possible, and really good thermal system. Right now because of most 3D rendering software being unoptimized for Apple Silicon/ARM the ProArt shines in 3D rendering apps (without even mentioning all of the hardware goodies like the dial and three-button trackpad the ProArt offers to make it more ideal), while the MBP shines in mixed compute, CPU bound, and video & photo editing applications, and applications that are GPU video memory hungry, thanks to everything being integrated and the class-leading memory subsystem that gives the CPU server-class memory bandwidth and the GPU server-class memory capacity. If I had the money, I would get both. They're both that good.
The proart is not directed to 3D artist.... In fact it has more productivity for media artists than the MacBook... And 3D software has never in the history of ever been optimized for 3D engineers
@@jesusbarrera6916 Apple Silicon on the Mac means things are going to be entirely different form now on, so don't read too much into the Mac's previous track record. There's no way the ProArt notebook has more productivity in it than the MBP. Have you seen how the MBP performs in video editing? Optimum Tech did a comparison of the M1 Max MBP against his $6000 desktop with a 5950X + RTX 3090 recently, and in a 6K BRAW export test the MBP was 2x as fast.
@@utubekullanicisi damn dude I forgot video editing is the only workflow every single human being does.... Oh wait it isn't Want to tell me how ANY MacBook perform in architectural 3D software?
@@jesusbarrera6916 "The proart is not directed to 3D artist.... In fact it has more productivity for media artists than the MacBook...". You made it sound like you was talking about things except 3D. You didn't say 'it is not directed to 3D artists, it also works amazing for 3D engineers.' or anything like that. For musicians better mic, better speakers and a computer with little to no fan noise gives the victory to Mac. For 2D art/animation artists, if you are limited to what's built into the machine (with the addition of a pen) the ProArt would win except you'll either go for either with a Wacom Cintiq or something similar, or a completely different machine like an iPad/Android tablet or a PC with a good touch display with pen input. The wheel control on the ProArt would be nice in a drawing program too though. The Mac is very good for video editing (as numerous CZcamsrs tells us), and most likely better than the ProArt. The ProArt seems to be a very good PC, but it also seems to be optimized towards 3D. Which is not a bad thing. One reason to go for a PC instead of a Mac for creative work would be that you can get a more specialized machine where you only get a very limited selection of Macs. The change to the M1 processors does make it a lot tougher for PCs though, and I do believe Apple will sell better than they have done in years.
i think if you do AV production, there's only one best choice: the new mbps. if you do unity or unreal or game engine development, imo you're best choice is a high performance windows machine. of course if you also want to game natively you need to go windows. i'm using a maxxed out mbp16 and it definitely angers me to on top of that cost add game streaming subscriptions.
I bought a MacBook in 2020 and honestly one of my worst purchases I made. I have always used windows and I still use it on my PC and I tried using a MacBook but I was quickly limited to what I could actually do with it. I mainly wanted to use it for engineering software and coding and thought I could get away with using boot camp to run windows, but it was just a huge mess and caused lots of headaches. I really wish there was a windows laptop with the same keyboard and haptic touchpad. If you do any work that requires windows software, don’t buy a MacBook even as good as it may seem.
@@blueciffer1653 Well considering that boot camp is made by Apple to be able to run windows on it and is advertised as such it should be able to work at least half decently. I only needed one software on windows to run but it made it unusable as the laptop would just ramp up the fans to 100% and thermal throttled even on a light load. Even on MacOS the MacBook does not run quiet.
The Studio Book doesn't just support styluses, it specifically supports Surface Pens so it's not exactly Asus proprietary which is nice
1:58 - and he states, "No signs of keyboard flex" as he shows us all kinds of flexing action going on.
it supports microsoft wheel too
The dial is also really useful for 3D apps that use the middle mouse button/scrolling a ton! Kudos to Asus for creating a laptop that is actually useful for 3D design!
5:55 you say there’s no manual control on the macbook to adjust keyboard backlight brightness. while apple did remove the function key for it & replaced it with a different system function, you can still adjust manually via the action center with software controls. small inaccuracy, but great video overall!
and peak brightness is also 1600nits
The Mac book is incredible, but god I hate Mac OS
Yea I hear ya
valid.
How come? Serious question from a long time Windows and Linux user. I've only recently started using Mac OS but I'm loving it, it gives you the functionality and speed of Linux with the ease of Windows.
@@helpmelivebros737 Yeah, switched to Mac this year after over 20yrs with windows. It was hard for month before I becomes more familiar with MacOS... Surprisingly except Total Commander, I have all apps on MacOS. And I do not really need Total Commander at all, last few years I used it just as FTP client
I love the MacBook and the Mac OS, just hate the price..
That inside of the Mac, its like alien tech, not something from earth 😂😂😀
Correction: I believe the MacBook Pro’s keyboard backlight is still adjustable, except they did indeed do away with the dedicated buttons and it’s now done in software, in the Control Centre.
Horrendous lmao
Indeed it can be manually adjusted
I was about to say the same thing
As a 3D artist and animator who also likes gaming on the side, if I had to pick one I would pick the ProArt laptop one. Although I love Apple's design and battery life. The price is also more affordable with ProArt compared to Apple.
more importantly, if you're looking to game on the side apple os is a big nono
Plus gaming is severely hamstrung on the Mac.
but in the videos there's more pros than cons on the MacBook Pro compared to the pro art laptop pc
Seriously thou the Windows laptop has a freaking 3070 inside that's value right there..
funy thing is, its not even used in this video. this video shows result on CPU VS CPU.. the RTX would finish any davinci or other processing task that can use GPU, 10 to 15 times faster.
@@laurentiudll Same as M1 can utilize its GPU, during encoding GPU is usually maxed out, not CPU, but... M1 Pro and M1 Max have dedicated encoders/decoders for this specific worklload, so CPU, GPU and Neural Engine can compute effects, color grading, stabilisation and object AI tracking
@@jirikocman rtx is so far ahead it doesnt even matter what they put in macs for next 5 years, to beat the current rtx cards,heck even the gtx ones
@@laurentiudll for gaming and 3d work like blender you are right... for video the m1 is already ahead
Being in the 3k+ price range and talking about workstations you should really consider including HP-Z, ThinkPads and Precision laptops while doing these comparisons. At this price range we are not talking about regular consumer or gaming products anymore. Nice review regardless 👍🏻
I think Apple offers a very strong value proposition with the M1 Air base model, and it's possible to get into their ecosystem for cheaper if one waits well after release day to buy their products at a good discount.. goes for iPad Pro, iPhone, and especially Apple Watch which really lose their value quite a bit after the first 12-18 mos. If you get just the cpu/ram/ssd you need for the immediate future and can wait until the product has been out for a while to get the best deals, then the depreciation factor is much less and you get the niceties that comes with Apple devices.
One important thing he left out in this comparison was if he did his initial tests at 100 battery plugged in or not. PC laptops with discrete GPU tend to drop off the table when unplugged. If you compare them unplugged, like how most people would use a laptop, it's hard to compete with the new M1 chips. I've always been a PC/Android person, but I did get the new 16 in M1 Pro MacBook, and I have to say, between the build quality, battery life, and performance, it's a beast, and I don't regret buying it one bit.
He also only used the cpu in the Windows machine. He wasn’t even using the gpu which in the rendering areas are like 10x faster lol. Even if it halves the overall performance if he actually used the gpu, it’s still faster than cpu rendering on the Mac. He literally only used cpus in these tests. No actual pro would do that.
@@RiceCubeTech bro used lol 3 times in 5 sentences
@@gauze.65 fixed it, happy? Commenting on an over a year old comment thread. Why?
@@RiceCubeTech very happy. Good job.
Why not get a similarly priced MacBook to the Asus? The $600 difference is really significant imo
Lol then performance won't match 😉
@@itsacookie1 this is true the camera will still be shit and the speakers but the stuff that matters like rendering times will be so much better with quattro or even using the GPU at all. kind of shit comparison tbh
@@chancemcclendon3906 Sure, but it is applied to MBP too. There are few things which are imposible on ProArt - power consumption and related noise and... battery perfromance. For those who like quiet computer and rely on battery performance, there is mostly no Windows laptop to match MBP...
I switched to Macbook Air this year after over 20yrs with windows just becouse MBA is absolutely silent, any noise and it perfroms, except gaming, mostly same as my old gaming desktop with 8700k and my current one with 10400F... Desktop power packed in tiny and lightweight body with no noise was my dream.
@@jirikocman "Desktop power packed in tiny and lightweight body with no noise was my dream' and you can build that type of desktop
@@-Blue-_ You can, but not that small, not that effecient, anyway, I still talking about ultrabook laptop, not about some SFF/MFF/stick form factor. I want portable all in one device, MBA form factor is ideal.
I am a film production/animation student and I use a 16" MacBook Pro with a top spec M1 max. while it is still a lot slower for animation render than a windows laptop of the same price it is still fast enough in blender for previews which is all I would use a laptop for and has wicked speed for calculating simulations and video exports. the trackpad does not need the middle click in blender as I can orbit the viewport just by dragging two fingers around the trackpad which is nice
1:58 "There are no signs of keyboard flex". *literally bends the entire keyboard like its made of rubber*
My main issue with going with Apple is that I don't have a Apple ecosystem. I love my Android and Windows setup and whenever I try to send files from or to Mac it always gives me issues
Yeah it’s this way on purpose. Apple really would be the best if it had the system of a android or windows. Otherwise the negatives for me outweigh the positives. I shouldn’t need a apple device to make me buy even more devices to mean something which seems to be the majority of peoples reasons even tho I’m sure most people who got a iPhone don’t even have other apple products. Android and windows to me are still better even with the negatives they also have.
Even with that ecosystem it’s not as productive as other options to me
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I'm considering getting a MacBook because while I use my PC for gaming and lots of school work, I still use an iPad as my daily art and work driver.
I have been a windows user for years (Still use for work) I got the new M1 Air - What a device... I can do all my work with a single charge and end of the day I will still have at least 40 or 50% left- Its just unbelievable.
I just watched the whole video and guess what ! I can't resist myself to subscribe you channel. The presentation is remarkable. Thankyou.
I bought apple macbook pro on 2 occasions but always return it because the apps i need doesnt run natively on mac and it sucks. I really like the built of macbooks.
I have the 16" base with 1TB. I got it the day it came out and I'm still in love. I'm old tech wise, was programming as a kid in the 70s, have been building PCs since the 80s and used every type of system and OS around. I hadn't had a Mac since the late 90s and MacOS plus these new chips makes them hands down the best personal computers, laptop or no, that I have ever used. Now if they would just game a little better I could get rid of my gaming desktop.... however I have a feeling it will be quite sometime, if ever, before we get to that point.
Apple will never be on the same level as Nvidia for gaming. Ain't happening. If Apple wanted to pursue that they would have; instead, they focus on iOS gaming and basic mobile games. I have a MacBook for dev and portability and a custom rig with Windows/Linux for desktop dev and gaming. Two different beasts.
@@rockysmith9286 You never know bro. Back in the days I've always thought nothing could top intel but AMD did it and Apple came out with their own chip. Its better for the global consumers if Apple enters gaming
@@rockysmith9286 Stupid take as always , they said that about AMD and they are on the verge of catching up with both Intel and Nvidia …if Apple wanted to they could..they have 300 billion in cash..they could pluck Nvidias engineers tomorrow
@@blackice214 It's not about what Apple can do it's about what they won't do, which is what I said. Your comment has zero impact on the enduser.
@@rockysmith9286 They could do it if they wanted to, you said “never” so that statement is idiotic to say the least. Just like in 1997 media said apple will “ never” beat Motorola in the phone business look at it now, never say never things can change in a blink of an eye with tech …especially with 300 billion cash
I have a Zephyrus G14 with Ryzen 9 and purchased the MBP14 and dude... the MBP surprised me, even above the Zephyrus. Totally recommended for everything that doesn't involve hardcore gaming
Do you have the zephyrus 2022? Seems a nice laptop... I want to do some VR programming as hobby and I'm between the zephyrus G14 2022 and the MacBook pro 14 😬
@@clagccs between those two, get the macbook pro 14, unity runs in M1 like butter and blender too. I'n finally using the G14 only for gaming since the programming stuff runs better in the MBP14
Which of those rendering tests utilized GPU rendering, if any? That's VERY important for 3D artists.
Agreed. No 3D artist is going to render on their CPU unless they have absolutely no other choice.
@@haizalio5101 some CPU based engines such as Corona are really amazing for what they are, but still pale in comparison to those that utilize OptiX, especially when Octane is free for Blender, and Cycles X is also pretty good
i work in the 3D rendering industry and no one renders on CPU anymore bad comparison. Also no one uses mac for productivity because its just worst in compatibility and expanstion.
@@chancemcclendon3906 lol … no one uses macs for productivity 😂
Ok buddy …
Remember there are mostly adobe premiere videos..... Barely any MacBook reviews ever check out actual 3D productivity
"MacOS games" 🤦🏽♂️....
For normal guys like me, who are gamers, and do photography or are creators, it's a no contest. I'd rather have the gaming laptop and save $$.
No hate on Apple. It's a beautiful machine.
I‘ve played games on a Mac since MacOS 7… it’s possible but you are limited in the quantity and sometimes had to wait years for a port. On the other hand the review is about Laptops, which are always second or even third choice to play Games on (Performance, Heat, Noise, …)
Omo I love ur voice..... it's not loud and not too low, it's soft but commanding enough to make me listen, not so fast but fast enough to make me not feel bored and it's so clear plus you speak so well
$600 difference between them. That's what I paid for my laptop which is fine. But you also fail to mention how much it costs to repair them and warranty. We all know apple repairs are silly prices. Apart from that very very good review.
@@benjiro8793 The also skipped over longevity which Apple spanks in. You win some you lose some
AppleCare+ is a thing, though.
Apple care? That's an additional $300.
@@jonv3074 it also covers accidental damage btw
@@krazymeanie a laptop like the pro art ages like all other computers. As long as the workflow doesn’t demand more than it’s capable of giving it’ll do the job just as well day one as it does three-five years from now. This isn’t a cheap laptop with a hard drive and no gpu. It’s a high core count with a high end gpu with SSDs. This will age just as well as the max will lol. The mac is the same way, if the program suddenly needs more than it can offer it’s not magic. It’ll perform within the same parameters it was designed to perform in.
Lol @ 1:55 when you say there are no signs of keyboard FLEX 😆 @1:57. I can literally see it.
The M1 Pro is the low end model for the 16 inch MacBook. You could spend a lot more money and get twice the GPU and 4X the memory on the MacBook and you can get the same performance in a 14” form factor. When I’m at home, I’m working on a 32” 4K monitor, and when I’m traveling I want light and compact. I have the 14”. I’d be curious how the ASUS performed with an external 4K monitor, as that is what brought my Intel/AMD system to it’s knees - there is no detectable performance difference with the M1. The biggest benefit for the ASUS for me is that it is upgradable, but I’m not sure I would want to carry the extra bulk and weight for that. Looks like either would be a good option, depending on your priorities. Great review.
The battery life, responsiveness, and efficiency of the MacBook Pro 16’ feels like a work of magic in person. The fans rarely kick in, even when doing more intensive tasks, the device barely gets warm, and the standby time is more like an iOS device than a typical laptop. It’s just a marvel of design.
40ms response time is much worse than a 60hz screen though
@@DarkPhychic macbooks screens was always slow, but its seems ok on my air
@@DarkPhychic using it alongside my 1ms 240hz Alienware monitor i really can’t tell much of a difference.
That would only be a problem if you’re gonna game on the MacBook , in that case it would suck
Your lighting is completly different in the webcam test. Your lighting was better on the Mac test, so of course it's going to look better.
Keep this style of comparison. If I want detailed, I’ll go over Tim’s or Tech Jesus but most of the times this is what I like to watch
This is really a great review and comparison video!!! As an architecture student, I just switched from MacBook Pro to ASUS ProArt StudioBook because some of the 3D modeling softwares and rendering softwares run better on windows system.
how much different would it run? I am in land surveying and mainly so far I will be using is AutoCAD Civil 3D and other programs like mathlab. I have a dedicated PC but I was wondering how the Macbook held up to those programs. I heard, while not completely supported it still runs well just slightly more waiting. So I was thinking I can use the MBP as just to tweak some things and have my PC be the brunt of the project. Since I think overall MBP is a better in terms of the synergy of hardware and software. But for professional for engineering is 50/50.
Thanks for the comparison. I'm about to buy a new computer and this helps me a lot.
The response time on the MacBook Pro display is horrendous
Most 1440p monitor with fast refresh rate have real world response time of around 5-10ms but the Macbook take as much as 100ms for a full transition. So basically, the 120hz refresh rate is pretty much useless, look at the review over hardware unboxed
Trying to find the point of "measured response times" as a factor of importance over color accuracy, contrast and gamut in a professional laptop. Still trying.....nope!
@@HardwareCanucks Don't get me wrong, the Macbook Pro screen win in every other category but at what cost ?! You get ghosting while watching any movie and even while browsing the internet, forget about gaming or in any fast paced type of content. Anyway, my point is that 120hz is pretty much false advertising because the response time of the screen can't match the required pixel transition speed.
If you think I'm over exaggerating, then let's put that into context. Would you like to be a really muscular/athletic guy, with a really handsome face and a great job, make alot of money but you're only 5'2 ?! That's basically the Macbook Pro 16'' screen.
🥱🥱he already made his mind up. Doesn't care about the display nice try do.
Your comment is completely valid with regards to the mac's awful pixel response and hence ghosting affecting real world use-cases like simply scrolling a web page or watching a movie.
But you mentioned hardware unboxed here. Oppsie!
@@JetBen555 Lmao nothing's wrong with being short???
Nobody makes better laptop video than EIBER, this is the my go to channel to know the laptop hardware.
Apple made the choice to do efficiency, quiet, and battery life. It will be interesting to see what happens with a Mac Pro or a new iMac with larger heat sink. Will they be able to increase clock speed at all? Or will they just go with more cores like the laptops... Still, the quality is great but is really expensive. If they were $500 cheaper the MacBook Pros would be much easier to recommend.
I'm a moron so I go for the M1 Max for better consistent performance in World of Wacraft while that could have been achieved for halft the price on a PC laptop ;)
@@laggmonstret For Wow? Absolute overkill. I could build a desktop rig for under $700 for that.
@@ivansoto9723 Yeah but I want to play with 120+ FPS aswell without sacrifice fidelity haha. Came to the cheapest solution tho - stop play WoW :P
I went from gaming laptops to a 14in MacBook Pro and the thing that still has me giddy is the battery life. I love my now older gaming laptop it still gets it done, but even brand new I had better be near an outlet.
yet under heavy workloads, someone tested and got 1.5 hours out of it on battery. for moderate loads maybe 5-6 hours on 16" M1 Pro. Web browsing and video playback, it can do between 8-10 hours, which is pretty good. i guess the question would be: how much will one truly expect to be unplugged on the go, and needing max performance while out and about somewhere without an outlet? answering that accurately may determine if its worth the premium demanded by Apple. don't get me wrong, it's an excellent product within the bounds that it's designed for.
I mean..... You went from a gaming laptop to a MacBook...........
@@StefanUrkel lol … nobody max gpu/cpu 100% for 1.5hrs straight nonstop.
That’s not a real work test. Most likely running cpu/gpu benchmark concurrently
Try that on a windows laptop, see how much work you get done without a plug 🔌
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@@RunForPeace-hk1cu Fanboy much?
@@matthewcombs5065 do you run your laptop cpu/gpu simultaneously at 💯 for 1.5hrs straight without special cooling? If you do, why not just get a desktop?
I’m pretty certain your PC laptop would have melted and the fan would explode if it doesn’t throttle down to 30% performance.
Just admit it’s true … “fanboi”.
Making factual statement isn’t being a fanboi. It’s called “keeping it real”
Thanks so much for the comparisn. ive been hitting my head on the wall about which one to go with , now m decided.!
This is 🔥 can we see comparison of M1 MacBook Air and widows best laptop?
The interior of the MacBook, in terms of beauty, roasts the interior of the StudioBook. Prove me wrong
I like this review, and although I don't think there is an intended bias, it sounds like this guy prefers to use his Mac, over the Asus. Which is not an issue, but the way he describes the Mac is sometimes odd, and opinionated. For instance, when he talks about the trackpad, he brings up emotions that the computer makes him feel, but as someone who isn't really a fan of Mac os, it is the opposite, so it felt weird hearing it in a comparison review. Other than that this review felt fairly unbiased and one of the best I've seen. Great work
The cheaper device even performing in the ballpark, let alone occasionally winning is a win for the cheaper device. The fact that the Asus has replaceable components is also a huge win. Besides the ability to upgrade, NAND and DRAM can fail. At least a failure of a removeable module means the device can be repaired at lower cost and in faster time. Worse is the main board can fail locking your data to a dead board when its soldered on. Having serviced a number of devices that fall victim to "being in the presence of humans", SS storage survives a decent amount of the time. It sure is nice to be able to pull it out and plug in to an enclosure with a standard interface. The only thing I care about with the mag safe is that the LED is a diagnostic tool. So it was definitely missed when servicing Macs that don't have it. Anything else about it is a novelty. Also, screw glued down batteries.
I would be disappointed if a prosumer was doing work and not having backups, so that issue is moot for me. I back everything in real time and I would recommend that if you do stuff on a laptop for a living, and these pro devices are mostly aimed at that market.
As for upgrading RAM, prosumers will just max out what they need and just pay what it costs as it is how they make money. For extra storage, just use TB4, that is what it is for. I have been running an old iMac off TB1 for many years and it remains fast enough.
If you look after your battery it should last. I use an app to stop charging at 85% and my 6 year old MB Pro 15 still has over 87% capacity. Again, prosumers will upgrade regular or pay the Apple servicing costs as it is as simple as making an appointment in your lunch break, if like me, you have three outlets within 30 mins.
As for failure of NAND and DRAM, never happened to me, what are the stats on failure rates? You need to reference that because if it is under 1% (possible) then most of us will prefer the low-latency, cheaper cost and performance advantages of unified SoC.
I feel that these excuses for dumping on Apple in every review are just from Windows fans that cannot accep a different way of doing stuff and just want a generic laptop. You have choices so simply buy into the Apple philosophy or buy something else, and stop the whining as many of us are happy with the way Apple is going and it gives us a great alternative beyond Windows.
@@andyH_England Why do it yourself for free when you can pay apple to do it for you right ? I mean ofcourse you wouldn't run out of storage or findout you need more ram down the road or anything and if so you can buy as much as you need right away it's not like apple charges you 400$ for 16gb of extra ram or 400$ for 1tb of extra storage it's CHEAPER unified soc after all...
"The cheaper device" would win in any gpu intensive task you can name he even ran 3D render benchmarks on CPU rather than the RTX 3070 which would have been 10x faster than either of the cpu results.
@@andyH_England I repair computers for a living. Apple is a huge part of the devices I work on. I don't know about being a windows fan, but I'm totally against supporting anti consumer companies. My shop is a few blocks from an Apple store, and it's hilarious the lies they feed their customers just to attempt to sell them a new device as opposed to offering any kind of reasonable repair. Not everyone that buys a thing is the target demographic, and a lot of people don't think about a backup before they've experienced data loss. It's why data recovery is a good business.
While Apple finally makes a thing that goes inside their computers, the RAM and Nand is still made by someone else. Instead of using M.2, when Apple first started using removable Solid state storage they made several proprietary connectors that did nothing special beside let them control the price of what was otherwise a SanDisk or Samsung SSD. I've pulled and replaced a number of those due to failure. It's a huge pain in the ass to need a matching computer to read one of those drives before a compatible enclosure exists. There are like 6 different versions of Apple's nameless proprietary storage connection. The one closest to an M.2 slot eventually had a 3rd party make an adapter so an off the shelf nvme drive could be slotted inside the Mac. Now they solder in the storage. Those drives are in the Mac Pro though, and they've apparently designed it so that replacements have to be blessed by one of their priests in the apple store to even work. Not a windows fan, just don't like enriching shit companies that mistreat their consumers.
Imagine how much faster the M1 max is going to be. I use my computers for gaming, so a Macbook is a no go. However I can't deny that it is the better computer for work and casual use.
Yeah, but consider the price difference also
@@willy7968 2k more for the m1 max
For casual use I wouldn't spend more than 600$ in a laptop. What is the Mac alternative at that price?
@@KrusssH I really don’t know you… I don’t know how easy it might be for you to save up extra $200-300 so u can buy a refurbished/new M1 MacBook Air, the base model… that’s the best value for money laptop a casual user can get, it doesn’t get hot, the battery lasts 18 hours…. Another part people barely talk about when talking about MacBook compared to windows is the pre-installed software that comes for free like Pages, Keynote, Numbers, GarageBand and iMovie… this softwares doesn’t come for free on windows, u need to pay for similar softwares like Microsoft packages and 3rd party softwares, so just try and save up to $900 for the M1 MacBook Air, it’s worth it
@@willy7968 Windows have plenty of free alternative softwares which you can choose from. And my point is, is it really worth to spend 300$ extra, for browsing and casual use? I'd rather spend these 300$ with a new phone.
Great video Ebert, but it looks like someone is a little bias towards Macs. LOL. I'll stick with my ASUS products. I just wonder if the upgraded display with a 120 refresh rate of ASUS, would make any difference. Thank you for the AWESOME review, between the 2 OS's as well.
Looks like someone doesn’t care about fan noise or battery life or build quality.
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Lol.
Great Perforamnce from both tbh….
Love your reviews. A little disappointed with the "it's not optimized yet" excuses for the Mac while downplaying the ProArt laptop's wins in this review though. The results are usually presented in a much less biased way.
I agree and will remember this bias when I watch other videos on this channel.
@@baldstuff Eber was clearly buzzing on that Apple Kool-Aid... Hopefully he can look at the criticisms objectively.
@@bfvader I see more comments about his style in this video and I saw them reply in a way that didn't show any care about critical viewers at all.
I don't care so much about their preference for the Macbook in this video, but just be neutral when you call it a comparison.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with preferring a product even when it's not superior in some way.
My 2012 Mazda is far from perfect and some other cars are probably better, but I still woudn't trade it in :)
I'll check out the next few videos to see if these are more transparent/honest. Everyone should get a chance to learn and grow right?
Both are really good laptops, it just comes down to what you plan on using them for
Rarely comment, but just want to say i thourghly enjoyed this presentation, the narrative is fantastic and not "youtubery". S grade content!
Anecdotally, from an editing POV, my timeline is way smoother in Premiere on macOS even if the render speeds aren't higher.
As a Mac user I might be a bit biased, but I have used windows for almost all my life up to just a few years ago - but I genuinely cannot understand why anyone would choose a windows laptop for video editing, photo editing, etc??
That fan noise is deafening! And the laptop HAS to be plugged in to get that power and honestly what is the point??!! If it has to be tethered to a wall at all times, why not just buy a desktop?!
And if you really work mobile all the time, how can you possibly justify not choosing the MacBook for that?! It’ll keep 100% power even unplugged while staying completely silent - total no brainer to me
I live in a country where the pay isn't that high. Sorry to slap you off your high horse there. Hell, a mobile desktop is still better than nothing. Apple is way more expensive but then again, all tech stuff is getting pricier but still , cheaper to get a windows laptop than a MacBook. If the difference is just a few seconds , than to me , it's not worth paying a little extra. For some that little is enough to feed them for a month. So now you can brain why windows still can win .
Excited for my 16" M1 Pro (base model) to arrive! Thanks for hyping me up ... more! :-)
Great work! Very complete comparaison.
Awesome review my friend. One quick thing that I noticed is that Performance is mispelt. :)
Hope you make a test for music production too in the future. As musician, I really appreciate that 😁
But you can adjust the keyboard brightness manually on the MacBook? you need to click on the settings button on the top right near the clock. But I will say, I would have much preferred it being on the function keys instead.
5:56 There is manual control for keyboard backlight on MacBook pro right in control center
Both the Pro Art and MBP are both stunning in every way possible. It ultimately comes down to the OS you like working with. Sorry to make it so simple 😂
I’ve had a 14 MB Pro for 2 months… Current Intel users looking to switch…..look real hard and double confirm that any Intel based software you use daily works. And no, I don’t mean if it’s on Rosetta 2….because I ran into quite a few software that are LITERALLY UNUSABLE ON ROSETTA 2. To the point, where I have to use 2 laptops and probably just going to go back to Intel or AMD until I know software is TRULY optimized.
Best detailed review, really best after watching many
Thanks for this comparison. I've been torn between these two for some time now and this vid is helping me with my decision. Appreciated.
Are you really not even going to tell us which you choose?
@@Vtwin_Superbikes fr. I want to know
Very nicely done video. Just one glaring mistake though in spelling performance “perforamnce”.
lovely , i see your passion sir. love the video
Awesome video! I really love how you put things into perspective with the comparison to an Asus laptop with a similar target audience! Keep up the good stuff:D
Great video. But, the gaming thing is incomplete. There are couple of ways to handle it on Mac OS ( like parallels, crossover etc.) that should be considered.
No surprise here, the Windows laptop have more features for creators and would have been a better choice than any Intel MacBook Pro, but... Apple M1 is just a game changer.
I was actually expecting a bigger difference in performance, given that the laptop is much cheaper.
And it is upgradable which is great.
But don't get me wrong, Apple's new M1's are great, too bad that the base specs are ridiculous. If something goes wrong after the warranty, you're screwed.
For Windows Hello normally I use face recognition as it is very smooth, fast, convenient so better than the normal built in fingerprint scanner.
No reasonable person would use windows hello for purchases or banking login …
Windows hello is probably one of the worst biometrics I've ever used lmao.
@@Rendact did not know that, why is it that way?
@@andretrujillo Becsuse iOS face ID is better lol.
You can adjust the keyboard backlight in the Mac by going to the control center.
I enjoyed this comparison a lot, but I just have to mention... that it seemed at least a bit biased, like being quite apologetic for Apple etc, and somehow neglecting the RTX 3070. Like I do like what is Apple doing with M1 chips, but not even mentioning anything about GPU etc seemed quite odd.
They do a lot of pro-Windows videos. I think they, just like the majority, are caught up in Apple's M1 hype right now. I'm all for it because it will force Intel/AMD to follow and in the end the consumer wins.
Keyboard backlight brightness control on the MacBook is now in the Control Center in the top corner
The laptop camera /speaker test should have been done at the same angle to background so that it was a proper experiment with reduced and controlled variables
A wise professional will buy the best tools that he or she can afford. if you use software that runs only on macOS or runs better on it, you will buy a Mac, the best Mac you can. If this isn;t the case, you will buy a Windows or Linux x86 machine. A photo/video professional might be happy with a Mac, but what about someone who runs CAE software such as ANSYS?
Also, at the moment, Apple silicon is made in a smaller lithography. This benefits power consumption, thermals, noise, etc.
Where the hell did you get a Pro Art??? I've been waiting for months?! I swear it's like all the reserved devices are being sent out to reviewers than customers lol
And that is the M1 Pro!
Imagine the M1 Max, it would smoke the other laptop(s).
I have the M1 Max 64GB... and sometimes I think there is something wrong, because what you can do with the machine is out of this world.
Very good comparison and video, love it!
I just discovered this laptop and this is a great comparison. I kinda wish you kept it more price similar tho on the Mac side and used a more base model 16", even with lower ram and storage.
CZcamsr: “No signs of keyboard flex”
The Keyboard: flexes
But the Asus is built specifically for one use case, I think you shouldve used something like a surface laptop 4 or dell XPS
Only differences would be build quality and thermals.
What 1 use case? You can use the proart for most proffessional usecases
@@jesusbarrera6916 it's the pro art, it's made for art and artistic media. Despite the MacBook Pro being called the MacBook Pro, it's also designed for general use, so overall it's a better package
@@duckman1863 what makes the proart not reliable for general use?
@@duckman1863 I'm pretty sure that 3070 can do pretty well in gaming.
Good review bro, could i send you my sweater to roxk in your videos and keep? Please let me know
The ProArt wins because it has no notch and includes a physical privacy shutter for the webcam.
Apple gained so many advantages since they've stood out by renewing their technology earlier than the others. This is new M1 vs old 5900HX and I believe the most accurate comparison of the two ecosystem will be early next year when Alder Lake-M launches!
The "new M1" is based on the old M1 which is based on the A14 generation of silicon IP which is already a 1 year old architecture.
Nah let's wait for AMD. They made better chipset than Intel every single time.
@@utubekullanicisi Can I also say the A14 Bionic is based on the A13 Bionic's big.Little arch and that's a 2 yr old arch? Then this will be endless.
@@frostilver No because it's not. The A13 is a one year older architecture and the A14 is about 20% faster. The M1 Pro & M1 Max literally uses the same Firestorm P-cores and Icestorm E-cores that the A14 in the iPhone 12 used (and G13 based graphics cores), whereas the newly released A15 that's currently in the iPhone 13 series and iPad mini uses the Avalanche P-cores and Blizzard E-cores & G14 graphics cores (and A13 used Lightning P-cores & Thunder E-cores).
Admittedly the performance discrepancy between Firestorm and Avalanche isn't that high, with Avalanche being only 8% faster due to solely higher clock speed, but its efficiency *is* improved and the Blizzard E-core is ~30% faster than the Icestorm E-core.
It's rumored that Apple is going to adopt an 18-month cadence when it coms to Mac processors so for the M2 Pro & Max you'll have to wait till 2023 when they adopt an even newer A16-based architecture, which to me isn't a problem because the M1 Pro & Max will be the efficiency kings for a *while*, and a lot of apps still haven't even properly taken advantage of the M1's architecture yet, esp. in terms of the GPU.
@@utubekullanicisi What I meant is that Apple isn't and probably won't be leaping much on the fundamental architecture, which is something like big.Little arch for their arm processors, in the near future, where Intel will probably revolutionize the current x86 laptop industry by bringing big.Little to their processors. This means crazy efficiency and arm like battery life compared to the prev x86 arch, and that's where the new battle between arm & x86 on mobile devices begins.
12:39 Ah yes, The *"PERFORAMNCE"*
love ur videos so much, so professional！！！
I switched to this new macbook pro 14 just this month. Been windows user my whole life, a pc enthusiast. Have never owned an apple product before. What pushed me to this switch is that at first i bought a decently powerfull yet portable Lenovo with 5800h processor and rtx3060 at around 2000usd. The laptop had fans constantly running, the batterylife was very poor and the trackpad was just plain awefull. Returned the Lenovo and searched for something else decided to try the new macbook. I was fully prepared to hate it but its actually unbelievable how much better it is for about 500usd more than lenovo in every single aspect except for gaming. I have never heard the fans, the screen is amazing, battery lasts ridiculously long, the speakers. Mac Os is not perfect and theres definitely many stupid little things wrong with it but overall its very usable. If you are not satisfied with your windows laptop especially regading noise and thermals give the new macbooks a try.
Hello, great video for the really masters in the market right now, but you said the proart which you tried has raid 0 ! What is the name of the model pls, coz my friend bought the one which comes with pci 3
Great video!!
I'm going to get both..
17:53 nice wallpaper ! Where I can find it ? Great comparison!
Just trusting those benchmarks you put up there. When compared with M1 Pro, I see the ProArt 16 doesn't fall behind much in Davinci Resolve. The ProArt 16 review and benchmark tests by Pixel village tells a whole different story though. A Canon R5 4K H.265 10 bit RAW footage was not only hard to edit, but also failed to scrub through the Adobe Premiere Pro timeline even at half the resolution. This was SOOC without transcoding or creating proxies. The same footage was a piece of cake for M1 Max. I heard that Davinci Resolve and FCP are better optimized for CPU and GPU balanced performance than the Adobe Premiere Pro.
Great comparison review, thank you. 🙏🏽 I have the same spec 16” MB Pro and it’s brilliant, just as you say. Apple totally won 2021 but as a previous owner of 3x XPS laptops I’d say to anyone that needs Windows or wants to game on their laptop: start saving now. 2022 is the year that Intel, AMD & Nvidia will strike back. A year from now, could be a whole different story. This is a great time to be a tech consumer. We’re so very lucky.👍🏽
This x100. M1 is cool now but it will be outdone and in the end the consumer wins.
They'll definitely catch up to performance but not on efficiency. Which can be very important to some people
This part is actually pretty hilarious 16:36 the MBP is like..what r u doing?
The new MacBooks are a game changer. Give me Apple Silicon performance and battery on a XPS. I just don't like MacBook design. Feels bland and outdated. One of the reason why I always ran hackintoshes on my laptops.
The sound test is louder on the Asus because of the powerful RTX 3070 and the 5900hx combo generates alot of heat way more than the M1 of course its fans are louder compared to Macbook with its weaker GPU which cannot touch the RTX 3070 in gaming. Even though the 3070 is 110w still gaming wise the Pro Art 3070 smokes the M1 Macbook in gaming. You're better off pitting the M1 Macbook to the amd 5980hx/ 5900hs that windows Laptops are touting like in the Asus Zephyrus g14/g15 or Razer Blade with higher end display panels 165hz QHD and or 4k panels and long battery life with an RTX 3060 or 3070.
Tried to understand what you just said . My brain just said “imma head out” .
What‽ My guy it’s a ProArts product and MacBook. Why would you consider gaming?
@@Adi-ct6rq What brain? The way you spelled Imma head out is proof you dont have one.
@@YungJoga You always want the most versatile machine for your money Id prefer a laptop like the Pro Art that does content creation design/ productivity and gaming all in one the Pro Art fits the bill.
Great review - thanks.
Welcome to the Mac world, the love (design, efficient, power) and hate (price)
'there are no signs of keyboard flex' - keyboard visually and obviously flexes 😂
This. LOL
2:00 my £170 ultrabook has wayyy less keyboard flex than that XD
(it is a thinkpad to be fair but it's also literally half the weight and a fair bit thinner than the asus...)
7:00 my thinkpad also has the middle button, I have to admit, i dont really use it but it's kinda nice to have and kinda useful as an extra hotkey i guess
5:55 there is a manual control tho in the control center/menu bar, but it's still stupid that Apple ditched the buttons for spotlight & siri/dicate…
great review! would be curious to see how the m1 max 16" stacks up (thats the one i bought), i think it would perform even better!
Great video, it is super informative and really stylish too which made it easy to watch from start to finish.
(An editor note: I saw “Performance” at 12:39 was spelled wrong but that’s just me being nit picky and giving unwarranted feedback lol)
Awesome video and thank you for creating this, going to be buying a laptop soon👌🏾
I noticed that typo too haha
Both of these laptops are incredible.
The MacBook Pro tries to be the pro laptop for as many professionals as possible, while the ProArt tries to target a more specific pro audience that use 3D rendering & engineering software (which is awesome, every niche audience deserves their own niche laptop!). The ProArt laptop is thicker, trying to provide as much modularity in a modern laptop as possible with M.2 SSD and SODIMM RAM slots, while the MBP tries to be as lightweight and small a pro machine can get while still being able to provide the biggest battery possible, and really good thermal system.
Right now because of most 3D rendering software being unoptimized for Apple Silicon/ARM the ProArt shines in 3D rendering apps (without even mentioning all of the hardware goodies like the dial and three-button trackpad the ProArt offers to make it more ideal), while the MBP shines in mixed compute, CPU bound, and video & photo editing applications, and applications that are GPU video memory hungry, thanks to everything being integrated and the class-leading memory subsystem that gives the CPU server-class memory bandwidth and the GPU server-class memory capacity.
If I had the money, I would get both. They're both that good.
The proart is not directed to 3D artist.... In fact it has more productivity for media artists than the MacBook...
And 3D software has never in the history of ever been optimized for 3D engineers
@@jesusbarrera6916 Apple Silicon on the Mac means things are going to be entirely different form now on, so don't read too much into the Mac's previous track record. There's no way the ProArt notebook has more productivity in it than the MBP. Have you seen how the MBP performs in video editing? Optimum Tech did a comparison of the M1 Max MBP against his $6000 desktop with a 5950X + RTX 3090 recently, and in a 6K BRAW export test the MBP was 2x as fast.
@@utubekullanicisi damn dude I forgot video editing is the only workflow every single human being does.... Oh wait it isn't
Want to tell me how ANY MacBook perform in architectural 3D software?
@@jesusbarrera6916 "The proart is not directed to 3D artist.... In fact it has more productivity for media artists than the MacBook...". You made it sound like you was talking about things except 3D. You didn't say 'it is not directed to 3D artists, it also works amazing for 3D engineers.' or anything like that. For musicians better mic, better speakers and a computer with little to no fan noise gives the victory to Mac. For 2D art/animation artists, if you are limited to what's built into the machine (with the addition of a pen) the ProArt would win except you'll either go for either with a Wacom Cintiq or something similar, or a completely different machine like an iPad/Android tablet or a PC with a good touch display with pen input. The wheel control on the ProArt would be nice in a drawing program too though. The Mac is very good for video editing (as numerous CZcamsrs tells us), and most likely better than the ProArt. The ProArt seems to be a very good PC, but it also seems to be optimized towards 3D. Which is not a bad thing. One reason to go for a PC instead of a Mac for creative work would be that you can get a more specialized machine where you only get a very limited selection of Macs. The change to the M1 processors does make it a lot tougher for PCs though, and I do believe Apple will sell better than they have done in years.
i think if you do AV production, there's only one best choice: the new mbps. if you do unity or unreal or game engine development, imo you're best choice is a high performance windows machine. of course if you also want to game natively you need to go windows. i'm using a maxxed out mbp16 and it definitely angers me to on top of that cost add game streaming subscriptions.
The MacBook (I have one) DOES have manual adjustment for the keyboard backlight, it’s just not on the keyboard - it’s in the control menu
Where can we get ur macbook wallpaper? Its so good
I bought a MacBook in 2020 and honestly one of my worst purchases I made. I have always used windows and I still use it on my PC and I tried using a MacBook but I was quickly limited to what I could actually do with it. I mainly wanted to use it for engineering software and coding and thought I could get away with using boot camp to run windows, but it was just a huge mess and caused lots of headaches. I really wish there was a windows laptop with the same keyboard and haptic touchpad. If you do any work that requires windows software, don’t buy a MacBook even as good as it may seem.
lenovo thinkpad x1 carbon is nice and asus zenbook
you bought a macbook, tried to use windows software and then became disappointed when it wasn't as good as an actual windows machine? lol
@@blueciffer1653 Well considering that boot camp is made by Apple to be able to run windows on it and is advertised as such it should be able to work at least half decently. I only needed one software on windows to run but it made it unusable as the laptop would just ramp up the fans to 100% and thermal throttled even on a light load. Even on MacOS the MacBook does not run quiet.
bruh you bought a mac just to a windows only software and was disappointed bc it wasn't as good as a windows PC bro what?