Had 2 of these. Both started leaking. Couldn’t find the leaks. Tossed one before I realized it had the LT warranty. Thanks for reminding me to get an exchange on the other one. Using a Nemo Tensor Long Wide now. Excellent Edit: I registered the pads, then emailed their customer support. They have replied and stated they have supplied a refund. Since refunds aren’t instant, I’ll edit again once it is clear that a refund was provided.
Update: I was notified by Amazon that a refund is in process for 1 of the pads. Replied to CS to see if they want to refund or replace the other pad as they seemed to overlook the fact that 2 were ordered even though details were provided for each order.
I had one. Took it on a long range patrol class.. sucks when you're sleeping on uneven rooty ground in the forest in a bivy. Got the sea to summit ether light insulated long wide and that's amazing. Buy once cry once
I was going to say, let’s see if the company asks you to change or delete your review after refund like they did with my sleeping bag review, but seems like you didn’t review and go through the refund process via offer from Sleepingo. I’m still frustrated by this process I’m copying and pasting my other comment so it’s seen: I got the double sleeping bag rated 32-degrees from this company and was repeatedly asked by them to change my review after they refunded me. I took it on two trips, one to MN for a week where my nights were high 40s/low 50s. When I wrote a review stating, it’s fine for 65-degrees, not 50 and definitely not 32, I got an email saying they would refund me and they were sorry I was disappointed. Yes please, got my refund. After my refund I got two emails being like, did you get your refund and also, “I would really appreciate if you update your original review, or maybe just delete it?” I did not delete it nor change my review, but I can see how this tactic works. And it seems all of the low star reviews who say the same as me barely have any likes so people aren’t seeing the critical ones. This is another problem with Amazon reviews.
Update 2: Sleepingo has given a full refund on both pads. So, I have to give them full credit as well. No cringy requests, just a well written apology.
@@maximusjoseppi5904 Thank you for your video it's really helpful, I also was researching about this company and i figured out that they do have used illegal practices to gather their reviews there's even a post on them and another company selling sleeping pads that they do violate amazon terms of service sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/amazon-purposely-allows-violation-for-some-sellers/501131
Not just Amazon reviews. I don't trust reviews anywhere anymore. Even tiny little online shops have inflated BS reviews now. That's why channels like this are so important!
except i weigh 180, ive spent over 100 nights on this pad as a restless side sleeper, my hip doesnt bottom out, and the valve is actually bomber...so can you really trust this review without having tried it yourself? great value : weight ratio. not ideal for car camping.
The biggest reason I think they get high reviews is that people who buy these dont have experience buying the quality ones costing 5x more so they simply dont know how good these can be. They assume this is what good is.
@@Adam-vx6to I've tried 100-200$ Nemo's, big Agnes,and thermorests. The Nemo tensor is actually pretty comfortable but 4-5x the price. The big reason people give this pad negative review I because theyve never given it a chance
I've had pretty good luck with Klymit inflatable sleep pads. They're way under the $100. plus price point of some other well known brands. I purchased one of the sleepingo pads but never used it. It is pretty light weight but so are my Klymit pads and pillows. And the Sleepingo is a bit thin in height as stated in the video.
I'm 5'8" and 210 lbs (yes a walking basketball) and I've slept on my side on this without bottoming out. I've used it 4 times so far with no issues. I also like the size. I've decided to attempt a few stealth camps, and this works great. I don't know what It would be like for days in a row. But for 1-2 days I'd use it.
As a side sleeper, I thank you for always mentioning it. Actually, not only do you mention it but now you're gonna suffer on your side while you test it out. Thank you for always doing your due diligence!
I have never camped in my entire life, but your channel really makes me want to go camping. Love your videos man, I learned a lot through them, and they really motivate me to go camping. Greetings from Germany!
Camping toug isn't that great in Germany. It's forbidden in Public places and you got to have an aggreement on private Ground. Other then that, usually only Campsites are allowed, wich aren't exactly like the wilderness thing. Most Campsites are rather funny, they are basically a retirement home, with elders living there in tiny houses.
I use this pad for hammock camping in florida. I havent had any issues after 20 trips. Blows up quickly, deflates quickly, hasn't leaked, and fits in my hammock perfectly. Maybe not so great for ground sleeping, but works well for hanging in the trees.
I have this pad. It's okay. It's slippery. There's absolutely ZERO "r" value. Great for summer. Light, and small. Worked well with my cotton rope hammock. Good price.
It isn't the best seller because its good. Its the best seller because it is inexpensive and markets itself well based on what they say on the box. IT looks uncomfortable just looking at it. Too many uninflated spaces.
No. It's the best seller because amazon puts it at the top of the list and calls it the "best seller" then everyone falls in line like the cattle they are.
This is the first time I’ve seen a review of something I’ve bought that doesn’t reflect what I’ve experienced. I’ve had this same sleeping pad for years now and it’s held up this entire time. I reallly like it for a lightweight option. Works great in a hammock because of the shape of the air pockets that allow it to form around your body. The ONLY complaint I have is that it’s noisy when moving around at night. But I’m really surprised at what you get for the price with this sleeping pad.
Hi, the very reason I'm thinking of getting this type of pad is because it looks a lot more 'flexible' than the self inflating foam types and so should work better in a hammock. so this has been your actual exprience? t.i.a
@@MidgeDiabolik this pad has been perfect for hammock sleeping. I like that it's so versatile in that I can scrunch it up if I want more support under my knees or even sleep on my side because it forms to my body. But just like any sleeping pad in a hammock, it takes some patience to stop it from sliding around underneath you and you really need to play around with the amount of air in the pad (I like it less inflated). Also, I'm 5'10" 170 lbs. so my experience may differ slightly from someone not my size. I hope this helps
I have this pad too, and I like it as well. When I lay down on it, I feel nothing but comfort. Now I do agree that if you sit up while laying on it, you will feel the ground. But it's lightweight, easy to inflate, and easy to deflate and store. I'm glad I bought it.
The best part I find hilarious is that on the outside of the box it states “heavy duty will not leak” yet open it up and it comes with a repair kit. LOL
I don't read the reviews on Amazon. I do all my research on YT on many channels. You get the odd channel whom are sponsored by the manufacture. Thanks for the review 👍
I've found Outdoorsman Lab to be a decent brand for low/mid tier stuff that's not complete garbage. Yeah it's mostly the same stuff made at the same factories all these other brands are selling, but they don't try to oversell it and inflate their prices in the process. I have several of their camping blankets (basically a sleeping bag without a zipper) and they're great for what they are.
I just got done with a 950 mile hike and used this sleeping pad every day. I started the hike at 200 pounds and ended at rought 170 pounds... am a side sleeper and never had my hips touch the ground. The hike was from Springer mountain GA to Luray VA on the AT. Again, I used this pad every day through hot/cold/snow/rain/sleet etc... I love it, never had a problem. But.... it seems manufacturing is hit and miss, I met 3 other hikers that started with the same pad and 2 of 3 of them had it leak in the first week, the 3rd just didn't like it. For the price, it's a great pad in my opinion. I picked it up when preparing for the hike and watched a video of "Dixie" who recommended it. I thought why not, and I wasn't disappointed. It outperformed pads that cost 5 times as much in my experience. It did accumulate some condensation inside as I blew it up every night... but hanging it in the sun during zero days with the valve open would reduce this. You really need to blow it up "tight" though to make it comfy.
I've had the same experience, I like the pad, when it is cold I carry a foam pad to go under it and it seems fine. I'm 6', 200lbs and sleep on my side. I got it a couple years ago for less than $20. It's a great budget item.
never had problem with this for 2 years even in snow. albeit i use a $300 -30c sleeping bag so it compensates for the thin air mat, but i guess you just make do with what works for you
Ditto! I also like Klymit. I bought three pads and 4 pillows. I only carry one but it's nice to know that I have the other two in reserve at home should I ever need to retire the first one. Klymit also made an inflatable 1 person raft which was always sold out every time I checked. I have several 4 person rafts but they are too heavy to pack on an excursion. I hope Klymit still makes their raft because I'm certain that it must be of equal quality. Rest well upon you Klymit!
i've had one of these for a year it's basically the bare minimum. has virtually no R value. only weird thing was getting a letter from Mr Coy West over a year after i ordered it asking me for an Amazon review
and now I'm responding to your comment a year later... I think asking for reviews a year later is actually great. If you haven't popped it in a year that's pretty good for 35$ or whatever it is now
Great video! I have this pad and some other $40 pads. This one is my go-to if I'm going as light as possible. 14oz is pretty impressive and I haven't had any issues with it as far as leaking, durability, or anything else. Is it the most comfortable? No. If I'm not going ultra light and comfort is the goal, my $40 Trekology kicks the Sleepingos butt. 4 inches thick, 40D nylon, not too loud, the material feels less plasticky, and it is just SUPER comfortable. I had not heard of those sites to check Amazon reviews, but will definitely have to check that out for future purchase. Purchased reviews are super annoying. Thanks for giving your honest opinion!
I have one of those and I also have a Nemo Tensor insulated. Luke, that pad may have a zero R-value, but in regards to weight, strength and reliability it’s awesome! You just have to realize it’s a summer pad. I’m 5 foot eight at 140 pounds and on my side it doesn’t contact the ground. No hotspots.
I’ve had one for a couple years now and I really like it. I paid $30 for it and I have had zero problems with mine. I’m 5’ 10” 180lbs And a side sleeper. You just have to blow it up really firm.
I bought this for the reason of it being best on Amazon. Being 225lb 6ft side sleeper it was not comfortable so It was a big let down. Now I am still on the search for a good sleeping pad. I did gift this one to someone smaller in which did work out ok. Thanks for the info on amazon reviews It was an eye opener.
I have this pad and I love it. However, I do use a yoga mat underneath because I mostly use it for camping in cold nights in the 40’s. So for warmth, I use a yoga mat. Also, I sleep on my back in cold weather so I don’t know how comfortable it would be if I was to sleep on my side. Additionally, I’m easily comfortable anywhere. I once slept in my kayak so what may be uncomfortable for someone like my husband, I would be completely ok. My husband would not, in any way, be comfortable in this pad. This pad is good for people who don’t need a lot of comfort.
I‘ve got the mat a few year ago but Branded differently. I‘m Pretty happy with it, it slept really comfy and didn‘t leak although my dog stepped on it a lot. I like it for the weight and I like in for hiking in the Summer!
Hey Luke , I just bought this for 20 bucks on eBay( I avoid Amazon) . Im taking this Spain for my Camino , as my other one is 28oz. Klymit. I've slept on this pad several times let's see how long it lasts . Happy 2024 to you and your family
Being a non minimalist car camper, the $14.97 walmart queen air mattress will give you a good nights sleep. And yes I do know that TOGR is more for the backpackers. Luke dose an excellent job in helping me hold down the overall vehicle weight of my four wheeler. Also TOGR has saved me time and money in getting the right gear the first time.
This is what I like about this channel, someone who hasn’t been bought off by anyone or any company but who still gives a fair and reasoned analysis of a product.
I've had it a few years and taken it out a few times. I haven't done intense testing or anything but, coming from someone who never owned a sleeping pad and just used a piece of foam: it's significantly more comfortable and easier to carrier. Most comfortable nights sleep I've had in a tent. I cannot compare it to more premium pads. For what I spent I think it was certainly worth the money.
I have a re-label and agree. Pretty decent! Not the best, absolutely not the worst and way better than the old foam pads. Especially considering size, weight and price.
For $40 I dig this pad quite a bit. I agree they are way overzealous with their marketing, but that aside its well worth the $40. I bring my shortened Thermarest closed foam pad when hiking and I just throw this in the pack as a bonus. On top of a foam pad its total luxury for cheap, doubles my R value and adds some air cushion, even better in a hammock. That aside and the reviews aside, its the best selling pad because its 40 bucks, its that simple. And if you trash it you get a new one. My only con is its loud as hell.
I have this pad. It's very comfortable for me, especially if I put a closed cell foam pad under my upper body. I haven't had any leaks yet. My main complaint is that it won't stay under me. I wake up and it's either by my side or the only part of me is still on it; my head & shoulders. I guess I move around too much during sleep. I thought I could fix it by, putting it inside my sleeping bag. That finally helped. It's really good for sleeping in my car too.
I’ve seen a couple of backpackers here on YT recommend this pad as a decent budget option. I almost picked one up for my son (14) because he only likes to camp/backpack in the summer and doesn’t need a pad with a high R-value. I’m glad I passed on this one.
If it's only for the summer then this is not bad because a kid doesn't need a lot of thickness in the pad and the R rating doesn't matter in the summer. This is not a bad pad, just a little over rated and not good for cold conditions. Anyways what pad did you went with? I hope you didn't spend 150$+ on a professional pad for a kid lol unless you're rich.
Ice Queen: This IS a decent pad. I've slept well on it. It should take care of your son. It's quite good enough. If someone wants a pad that is 3 or 4 inches thick, it will be more expensive.
I have this pad and used it several times in all seasons, I use it in conjunction with a sleeping bag with a bivy, so I dont lose too much heat from the low R rating. I paid 27 bucks for it a few months back, they had a great coupon on Amazon. Its a good budget pad. Some reviewers who are accustomed to a lot better gear will not like it. Its kind of like going from a Mercedes then renting a Ford, while it does the same thing, its just not the same.
@@paladin11C40 Wow that was a steal! Yea for 27$ you can't do better than this! then when you have more money and experiment you can upgrade what you need. This is the best way to go. Unfortunately, I bought my stuff in a hurry and tried to get middle of the line/good gear right off the bat because I may have to camp in cold climate and because I need smaller gear to carry in a backpack. I went with a 100$ Hammock Gear Pad that has 4 R Rating and 2.5 Inches and packs really nicely and a Econo Quilt that's not economical at all!!! but it's really good 20c rating and packs small for around 200$. My tent is a Greycliff 2, I can't find ANY reviews on it but it's the best I could find for the price (175$) and very similar to the Lynx 2 but with more mesh.
Also, I do like the ease of deflating it, compared to my thermorest pad. As far as Amazon reviews, whenever I leave a bad review on a product, it magically never shows up in the review section
I actually received a request once on a negative review I made asking me to edit the review. The company even sent me the preferred wording. As a result, do not trust any reviews and do outside research. This is for Amazon or any other company.
@@ebeavis1991 oh wow, that's shady! the worst I've seen is when the package arrives with a note saying "send us a screenshot of your 5-star review and we'll send you these accessories". The ones that do that, I get the accessories and then immediately update my review to the actual feelings about the product (and a note that they "bought" my review)
So I bought this pad and used it a few times... and I have to say, I like it for ONE purpose: hammock camping. This thing isn't rigid and so it conforms to the shape of my hammock and works great for hammock camping to give some insulation and comfort (though I prob wouldn't use just on its own in temps below 60 or so... (I usually sleep with a 40º bag) lower than that, I'd add an underquilt to the hammock to sleep more comfortably). I went and picked up a Big Agnes Q-Core insulated pad for tent camping as I do tend to be a side-sleeper sometimes. This pad was much thicker and comfier for ground sleeping and had a higher R-Value as well for lower temps. It's good to test out your gear and know which works best for certain applications!
I had two outdoorsman labs, they both started leaking about 3 years after I bought them. One was barely ever used, and the other was used almost 1-2x weekly. I never could find the leaks, I think it was near the valve. There is no lifetime warranty with them.
I've been using this for 3 years. Obviously not designed for winter. I have no problems with it. I am a side sleeper and haven't had any issues. They are now under $30. Its a good buy for a casual.
I bought one of these as a "beginner" pad. It was fine for six nights, then started leaking in the middle of the 7th night. Luckily I had a Thermarest z-lite foam pad under that, otherwise I would have been really cold (the Sleepingo does have *some* R-value because I would feel the cold whenever I slipped off the pad, which was often). The company sent me a replacement, but I went on to buy myself a much thicker/warmer Big Agnes pad. I'd say that this pad is fine for a beginner who's trying to get together a bunch of gear without spending too much: it's cheap and it's light. It can get someone like me out in the woods, and eventually they can upgrade.
I have this, a different brand, which I got from aliexpress for $20. Bought it for my son for summer camping as it is small and light. Works really well for that purpose, and would buy again.
My wife and I live in southwest Washington state. We play in the cascade mountains. We have been on trail with the outdoorsman lab version for the past three years. We have had no issues and we like them. Of course they are not the best of the best but, they are good enough for us. If mine will ever give up the ghost, I will get a nicer one. But until then........
I'm afraid, I have to agree with you. I have owned one for 2 years. And, I have always found it comfortable. I weigh 220 lbs. And am strictly a side sleeper. I simply blow it up firmer. I should note however, that I do prefer a much firmer mattress. I basically only need padding for my hips. So, I might not be the best example. I do agree with you on the deceptive advertising. Had I known that, at the time, I would have chosen another product.
I purchased this pad earlier this year. Used it several times camping/backpacking. I loved the price and actually found it fairly comfortable as a side sleeper. Took good care it, always being careful to not puncture it. However it only lasted for five trips. Never fun to wake up in the middle of the night with your hips digging into the ground because all the air has leaked out. Definitely not planning to purchase another, looking a higher quality pad in the near future.
I bought this in January of 2022 and have taken it on several camping trips! It is great for a budget pad!! Budget being the key word. If you can't afford a better pad , like me, then this will do fine!! Have used it on several camping trips this year with no issues.
Thanks for the review! I will be passing on this sleeping pad for two reasons - I am 6’6” and weigh 210 pounds. I have all my gear picked out except for the sleeping pad. I am concerned about weight (as any backpacker should be). I am also concerned about comfort. My budget for a pad is $50-150.
i have one these and I honestly have zero problems with it. i dont use it for hiking and camping but I do use it for sleeping outdoor in a tent or even in the car. it blows up nice, it folds up nice. Kind of noisy and if I put it in a sleeping bag it doesn't move.145 pounds, sleep on my back and sometimes my side, no problems at least if this is on a cot. On the ground side sleeping is tough unless you have something really thick.
I was a dumb dumb and bought it. I only use it in the warm weather. It is fairly comfortable and light. It just deflates overnight several times. 3 or 4 times a night refill my air pad.
We’ll!!! During my break time at work(construction job)I lay down on sheets of drywall and I sleep like a baby,now I imagine if I had one of these to take to work so I can rest during my break lol
Hope you’re doing well Luke. I did enjoyed your review, but wished I had seen this video before purchasing the ‘Sleepingo’ sleep pad. I’m a side sleeper and it felt like an uneven bubble wrap. I actually thought it lost air, or failed to inflate all the way, but neither were the case. I admit, I was one of those who based the purchase on the number of reviews, second the size and third the cost. Keeping it for my daughter, who still has sleep-overs with her girlfriends. Now researching sleeping cots instead, for my car camping adventures. Drift safe Brutha!
Sleepingo's compact pad offers great support and easy deflation, fitting backpacking needs. The slippery surface causes slight slippage in the sleeping bag. Noisy cells affect sleep, lowering the rating.
Had one. Used it twice... It has practically no R-value. I froze my butt off in 50° temps with my 20° down quilt. There are just too many gaps in the pad that have no air. I learned quickly, DON'T skimp out on your sleep system unless you're always camping in warm summer temps. I ended up waiting for a sale and picked up a Therm-a-rest Xlite Women's, because it seemed to have the highest R-value for the weight of all the pads I looked at.
I use the Teton XXL Camp Pad...It's 9 lbs., every bit of 82" long, 38" wide and a Full 2 1/2" thick all the way around...It cost $100...Is Seriously water repellant with a canvas cover and tie loops at each corner for a cot...I'd rather spend 2x as much and carry an extra 8 pounds for added comfort and protection...And I weigh 280 lbs!!!
I'm sorry, but I can't leave this one alone. You have never backpacked in your life have you? When you say carry, I assume you're referring to carrying it to your car. Probably a Subaru...
I have this pad. I’m 50yrs old (the ground is not my friend) and I weigh around 300lbs, so I thought that’d be a good test for it. Honestly, if it’d stay underneath me, it would be tolerable. It’s so slippery that I can’t stay on it for more than an hour or so at a time, and if you’re not on a dead level spot, forget about it. I even tried it inside my sleeping bag. It still ended up on top of me. I did use it on one night that dipped into the 30’s as a wind break at the end of my tarp shelter. It worked great for that. I’m gonna buy something thicker, wider, and heavier, and more expensive, like I should have to begin with.
I own one of these pads. I weigh around the vicinity of 180lbs. My butt was on the ground the entire night, basically. I may as well have slept on a folded mat/blanket because it would have been the same. It's a cheap pad. I myself regret the purchase but for anyone who is lighter than I am, it probably works just fine. Another issue was that I would slide around on it a bit, but that was a problem solved with a thin towel under the pad itself to keep it from moving out from under me.
It’s scary because it gives a novice hiker the idea that they are prepared. Cheap junk. With Amazon, I research what I’m buying first, then buy from them if I like the deal. I like prime shipping, so I do buy from Amazon a lot, just not based on the ratings.
I originally bought this and it leaked the second time I took it out. Maybe I got a lemon, but I returned it with no hassle and bought the Klymit version, which I love and have purchased 3 now.
Thank you. We are surrounded by liars and so many lie that there is not even a 2nd thought about it. If we are gonna get better at all lying needs to end.
Most reviews on any website are ridiculous. I was looking recently for hiking attire...reviews were all over the map. For one article of clothing, reviews were "fits true to size", "fit is small...get a size up", "fit is a little big...may want to go a size down". WTF.
This is true. But I think it’s because a lot of people really don’t know what size they are. I have a friend who is 5’ 8” and 115lbs. He wears a large t-shirt. He’s a small all day long. The large looks like a tent on him but he likes it.
Thank you for this video. I never knew they inflated reviews like that. Makes since. Think from now on I'll look to reviews on youtube instead of amazon
solid review. i've used the outdoorsmanlab since 2018 and have had only 1 rough night of sleep (below 0 in Banff). no real complaints especially if i paid only $22 for it!
Used this pad on my appalachian trail hike this year. Planned on using it until it started leaking, it never leaked after 5.5 months of daily use. I wouldn't use it in cold weather, but it sure beats a foam pad.
I have not used this yet but purchased it along with a bunch of other gear to start Motorcycle camping... Then I searched reviews on YT and found yours which I was happy to see as I started following your channel a few months ago :). I purchased this without too much worry due to the fact that I will be using it on a small cot so will not be directly on the ground. I am just getting too old for that. Not intentional, but my cot, this pad and my sleeping bag (also one you have reviewed) are all some shade of green. I am a little conflicted as I almost think it should go back on principle, but on the other hand, for the price, it is probably good enough for my needs, and because I will not be directly on the ground. Edit: I went to return it on Amazon and it is non returnable due to hazmat regulations??? That is not reassuring. Looked at other brands return eligibility (Exped for example) and did not see the same warning. I also bought a Lone Rider Moto tent... I was leaning strongly towards getting one before I found your review, but it helped seal the deal (got it on Black Friday, so saved a bit on it at least). Fits my bike well of course, but I also wanted a tent I can stand in. Can't wait for slightly warmer temps to start my weekend adventures!
All the biggest brand are going away from amazon because of the reliability of the reviews, amazon should take more seriously fakes reviews. Great video over all, i was looking for a cheap sliping pad and now im even more confused :D
I’ve used an Intey brand I got off Amazon a year ago for around $30. I’ve used it in a hammock and tent. I’m a side sleeper and I can say it’s pretty ok. I got a sleepingo a couple weeks ago based on reviews and positive videos. I won’t use it by itself, but together with the intey? Chef’s kiss. They are the same size and weight. Worth the extra space they take up in my pack.
I really wish Amazon would stop ranking products based on reviews. In theory it sounds like a good idea but it hasn't worked in practice for years and they just won't let it go.
I bought a back up camera for my motorhome on Amazon, works great but they told me if I gave them a positive review they'd send another for free. I like the camera so I did and got two cameras.
Deception lowers the level of communication. Honesty is an important value, and contributes to a healthy society, healthy communication, and healthy relationships.
Remeasure the dimensions of the pad uninflated. In the early days of inflatable pads companies had a hard time gagging the width and length of the pad when it was inflated vs. uninflated. Big Agnes had an early version that was 20 inches wide when uninflated but inflated was only 16 inches wide. They had to go back and redesign the pad.
I know this is an older video-- algorithm is weird-- thanks for sharing and discussing the deception. I agree that alone should be concerning and a reason to avoid them. You said at one point side sleepers need 3in minimum, I thru-hiked AT last year and CDT this year (daily vlogs from each) and I have always slept on a 2.5in mat very comfortably as a side sleeper. Just a heads up for future reference. Love the channel, been checking it off and on for a while now!
I have to admit it's a little funny going straight from "I wouldn't recommend this product because they faked the reviews to game the algorithm" to "don't forget to comment, like, and subscribe to help me game the algorithm." The world we live in today.
I'll have to use fakespot in the future, because I was definitely swindled by the reviews of this product. I bought one for my camping trip and boy was it uncomfortable!
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I have this sleeping pad and I have not had any problems with it. I am also a side sleeper and weigh 175 lbs. I put it in my sleeping bag and I put a sleeping bag liner. The last time I used it in early November in Northern Arizona I slept very well.
A fact about rough camping is.....you will never be 100% comfortable and will just have to suck it up. I did 22 years in the military as a foot soldier and the gear we were issued was top notch....but still had plenty of nights being really uncomfortable...thus sucking it up!
Always had Thermarest (trail large). Still do. No huffin and puffin, it blows itself up while i drink coffee...well, maybe a couple puffs to get it tight. This video made me laugh....out loud.
Disclaimer, I only hammock camp and I live in Hawaii, but I've had this pad for about 2 years and have used it probably close to 100 times. I have had absolutely no problems with it at all. It provides plenty of padding for me, helps with keeping me warm without needing an underquilt, has never punctured and is pretty light weight. I wouldn't use it with a tent, but for a hammock, I love it.
I am a 6+ footer with 24 inch shoulders and can side sleep comfortablyon my Klymit Static V...the first time on a hardwood floor. Good review as always.
Had 2 of these. Both started leaking. Couldn’t find the leaks. Tossed one before I realized it had the LT warranty. Thanks for reminding me to get an exchange on the other one. Using a Nemo Tensor Long Wide now. Excellent
Edit: I registered the pads, then emailed their customer support. They have replied and stated they have supplied a refund. Since refunds aren’t instant, I’ll edit again once it is clear that a refund was provided.
Update: I was notified by Amazon that a refund is in process for 1 of the pads. Replied to CS to see if they want to refund or replace the other pad as they seemed to overlook the fact that 2 were ordered even though details were provided for each order.
I had one. Took it on a long range patrol class.. sucks when you're sleeping on uneven rooty ground in the forest in a bivy. Got the sea to summit ether light insulated long wide and that's amazing.
Buy once cry once
I was going to say, let’s see if the company asks you to change or delete your review after refund like they did with my sleeping bag review, but seems like you didn’t review and go through the refund process via offer from Sleepingo. I’m still frustrated by this process I’m copying and pasting my other comment so it’s seen:
I got the double sleeping bag rated 32-degrees from this company and was repeatedly asked by them to change my review after they refunded me. I took it on two trips, one to MN for a week where my nights were high 40s/low 50s. When I wrote a review stating, it’s fine for 65-degrees, not 50 and definitely not 32, I got an email saying they would refund me and they were sorry I was disappointed. Yes please, got my refund. After my refund I got two emails being like, did you get your refund and also, “I would really appreciate if you update your original review, or maybe just delete it?” I did not delete it nor change my review, but I can see how this tactic works. And it seems all of the low star reviews who say the same as me barely have any likes so people aren’t seeing the critical ones. This is another problem with Amazon reviews.
Update 2: Sleepingo has given a full refund on both pads. So, I have to give them full credit as well. No cringy requests, just a well written apology.
@@maximusjoseppi5904 Thank you for your video it's really helpful, I also was researching about this company and i figured out that they do have used illegal practices to gather their reviews
there's even a post on them and another company selling sleeping pads that they do violate amazon terms of service
sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/amazon-purposely-allows-violation-for-some-sellers/501131
Not just Amazon reviews. I don't trust reviews anywhere anymore. Even tiny little online shops have inflated BS reviews now. That's why channels like this are so important!
except i weigh 180, ive spent over 100 nights on this pad as a restless side sleeper, my hip doesnt bottom out, and the valve is actually bomber...so can you really trust this review without having tried it yourself? great value : weight ratio. not ideal for car camping.
The biggest reason I think they get high reviews is that people who buy these dont have experience buying the quality ones costing 5x more so they simply dont know how good these can be. They assume this is what good is.
@@Adam-vx6to I've tried 100-200$ Nemo's, big Agnes,and thermorests. The Nemo tensor is actually pretty comfortable but 4-5x the price.
The big reason people give this pad negative review I because theyve never given it a chance
@@Adam-vx6to good point Adam. If someone never experiences driving a Ferrari, that Ford Fusion seems just fine to them.
I've had pretty good luck with Klymit inflatable sleep pads. They're way under the $100. plus price point of some other well known brands.
I purchased one of the sleepingo pads but never used it. It is pretty light weight but so are my Klymit pads and pillows. And the Sleepingo is a bit thin in height as stated in the video.
I'm 5'8" and 210 lbs (yes a walking basketball) and I've slept on my side on this without bottoming out. I've used it 4 times so far with no issues. I also like the size. I've decided to attempt a few stealth camps, and this works great. I don't know what It would be like for days in a row. But for 1-2 days I'd use it.
As a side sleeper, I thank you for always mentioning it. Actually, not only do you mention it but now you're gonna suffer on your side while you test it out. Thank you for always doing your due diligence!
Like, "You be happy....it work good."
+1
I have never camped in my entire life, but your channel really makes me want to go camping. Love your videos man, I learned a lot through them, and they really motivate me to go camping. Greetings from Germany!
Get out there!👍
Camping toug isn't that great in Germany. It's forbidden in Public places and you got to have an aggreement on private Ground. Other then that, usually only Campsites are allowed, wich aren't exactly like the wilderness thing. Most Campsites are rather funny, they are basically a retirement home, with elders living there in tiny houses.
Get out there and give it a go.
@sagich dirdochnicht that's absolutely dystopian
Go Outside😅😅
“I do like the green color”. Really reaching for pro’s. 😂😂
Green = rugged outdoor right?
I use this pad for hammock camping in florida. I havent had any issues after 20 trips. Blows up quickly, deflates quickly, hasn't leaked, and fits in my hammock perfectly. Maybe not so great for ground sleeping, but works well for hanging in the trees.
This is why I have it.. “budget price” and for the hammock..
It is okay for sleeping on the ground too.
That's how I use mine and same results. Seems fine for hammock use.
@@leejohnson8095 I'm curious as to why you're using it in a hammock? Is it for additional insulation?
@@atomicpsych0 I found it just better when you don't like your shoulders curling up
I have this pad. It's okay. It's slippery. There's absolutely ZERO "r" value. Great for summer. Light, and small. Worked well with my cotton rope hammock. Good price.
It isn't the best seller because its good. Its the best seller because it is inexpensive and markets itself well based on what they say on the box. IT looks uncomfortable just looking at it. Too many uninflated spaces.
No. It's the best seller because amazon puts it at the top of the list and calls it the "best seller" then everyone falls in line like the cattle they are.
@@MakeCriminalsIllegalAgain I like your hefty dose of skepticism about people making careful judgements.
@@edm9704 People love being told what to think. Just look at our propaganda media and the people who blindly believe it all.
@@BornIn1500 Amen to that!
6' 0" 190Lbs
Inflate to a high pressure.
Use in conjunction with a sleeping bag.
Sleeps well in any position. 4.5 Stars.
This is the first time I’ve seen a review of something I’ve bought that doesn’t reflect what I’ve experienced. I’ve had this same sleeping pad for years now and it’s held up this entire time. I reallly like it for a lightweight option. Works great in a hammock because of the shape of the air pockets that allow it to form around your body. The ONLY complaint I have is that it’s noisy when moving around at night. But I’m really surprised at what you get for the price with this sleeping pad.
Hi, the very reason I'm thinking of getting this type of pad is because it looks a lot more 'flexible' than the self inflating foam types and so should work better in a hammock. so this has been your actual exprience?
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@@MidgeDiabolik this pad has been perfect for hammock sleeping. I like that it's so versatile in that I can scrunch it up if I want more support under my knees or even sleep on my side because it forms to my body. But just like any sleeping pad in a hammock, it takes some patience to stop it from sliding around underneath you and you really need to play around with the amount of air in the pad (I like it less inflated). Also, I'm 5'10" 170 lbs. so my experience may differ slightly from someone not my size. I hope this helps
I have this pad too, and I like it as well. When I lay down on it, I feel nothing but comfort. Now I do agree that if you sit up while laying on it, you will feel the ground. But it's lightweight, easy to inflate, and easy to deflate and store. I'm glad I bought it.
So many bots
@@ClippedStreams101 nah. Just some people that's tried many different solutions to problems we've found.
The best part I find hilarious is that on the outside of the box it states “heavy duty will not leak” yet open it up and it comes with a repair kit. LOL
My thoughts exactly. Lol
Hilarious but aye Atleast they prep you for the worst 😁
the Iron E
I imagine the reasoning is that "will not leak" doesn't mean "can't suffer a puncture".
funny
I don't read the reviews on Amazon. I do all my research on YT on many channels. You get the odd channel whom are sponsored by the manufacture. Thanks for the review 👍
I have the Outdoorsman Lab version and I even bought another for my son. For camping or hiking from late spring to early fall, it's just fine.
I've found Outdoorsman Lab to be a decent brand for low/mid tier stuff that's not complete garbage. Yeah it's mostly the same stuff made at the same factories all these other brands are selling, but they don't try to oversell it and inflate their prices in the process. I have several of their camping blankets (basically a sleeping bag without a zipper) and they're great for what they are.
I just got done with a 950 mile hike and used this sleeping pad every day. I started the hike at 200 pounds and ended at rought 170 pounds... am a side sleeper and never had my hips touch the ground. The hike was from Springer mountain GA to Luray VA on the AT. Again, I used this pad every day through hot/cold/snow/rain/sleet etc... I love it, never had a problem. But.... it seems manufacturing is hit and miss, I met 3 other hikers that started with the same pad and 2 of 3 of them had it leak in the first week, the 3rd just didn't like it. For the price, it's a great pad in my opinion. I picked it up when preparing for the hike and watched a video of "Dixie" who recommended it. I thought why not, and I wasn't disappointed. It outperformed pads that cost 5 times as much in my experience. It did accumulate some condensation inside as I blew it up every night... but hanging it in the sun during zero days with the valve open would reduce this. You really need to blow it up "tight" though to make it comfy.
I've had the same experience, I like the pad, when it is cold I carry a foam pad to go under it and it seems fine. I'm 6', 200lbs and sleep on my side. I got it a couple years ago for less than $20. It's a great budget item.
never had problem with this for 2 years even in snow. albeit i use a $300 -30c sleeping bag so it compensates for the thin air mat, but i guess you just make do with what works for you
Interesting! I had no idea reviews could be bought. I appreciate your blunt honesty! Thanks!
This is why I listen to your reviews straight forward and no BS. Still love my Klymit Static V.
Ditto! I also like Klymit. I bought three pads and 4 pillows. I only carry one but it's nice to know that I have the other two in reserve at home should I ever need to retire the first one. Klymit also made an inflatable 1 person raft which was always sold out every time I checked. I have several 4 person rafts but they are too heavy to pack on an excursion. I hope Klymit still makes their raft because I'm certain that it must be of equal quality.
Rest well upon you Klymit!
i've had one of these for a year it's basically the bare minimum. has virtually no R value. only weird thing was getting a letter from Mr Coy West over a year after i ordered it asking me for an Amazon review
and now I'm responding to your comment a year later... I think asking for reviews a year later is actually great. If you haven't popped it in a year that's pretty good for 35$ or whatever it is now
Great video! I have this pad and some other $40 pads. This one is my go-to if I'm going as light as possible. 14oz is pretty impressive and I haven't had any issues with it as far as leaking, durability, or anything else. Is it the most comfortable? No. If I'm not going ultra light and comfort is the goal, my $40 Trekology kicks the Sleepingos butt. 4 inches thick, 40D nylon, not too loud, the material feels less plasticky, and it is just SUPER comfortable.
I had not heard of those sites to check Amazon reviews, but will definitely have to check that out for future purchase. Purchased reviews are super annoying. Thanks for giving your honest opinion!
14oz is not impressive?
I have both this and the trekology. I'm a back sleeper so the sleepngo is just fine for me in regards to cushion - and it's very light.
@@christopherhaak9824 Can't beat the price/weight ratio! 2 years later and my Sleepingo (and trekology) is sill going strong!
I have one of those and I also have a Nemo Tensor insulated. Luke, that pad may have a zero R-value, but in regards to weight, strength and reliability it’s awesome! You just have to realize it’s a summer pad. I’m 5 foot eight at 140 pounds and on my side it doesn’t contact the ground. No hotspots.
I’ve had one for a couple years now and I really like it. I paid $30 for it and I have had zero problems with mine. I’m 5’ 10” 180lbs And a side sleeper. You just have to blow it up really firm.
I kind of liked the letter from the owner and the lifetime guarantee, would appreciate that from more companies not only TaR
I bought this for the reason of it being best on Amazon. Being 225lb 6ft side sleeper it was not comfortable so It was a big let down. Now I am still on the search for a good sleeping pad. I did gift this one to someone smaller in which did work out ok. Thanks for the info on amazon reviews It was an eye opener.
I have this pad and I love it. However, I do use a yoga mat underneath because I mostly use it for camping in cold nights in the 40’s. So for warmth, I use a yoga mat. Also, I sleep on my back in cold weather so I don’t know how comfortable it would be if I was to sleep on my side. Additionally, I’m easily comfortable anywhere. I once slept in my kayak so what may be uncomfortable for someone like my husband, I would be completely ok. My husband would not, in any way, be comfortable in this pad. This pad is good for people who don’t need a lot of comfort.
I‘ve got the mat a few year ago but Branded differently. I‘m Pretty happy with it, it slept really comfy and didn‘t leak although my dog stepped on it a lot. I like it for the weight and I like in for hiking in the Summer!
When I need facts about any camping gear,I check here first.Great content.Semper Fi.
Hey Luke , I just bought this for 20 bucks on eBay( I avoid Amazon) . Im taking this Spain for my Camino , as my other one is 28oz. Klymit. I've slept on this pad several times let's see how long it lasts . Happy 2024 to you and your family
Just started my return! Thanks for the information.😊
i just bought this last week, and there were no good video reviews on this item, im happy you did a video on it. im returning it, thank you, thank you
Being a non minimalist car camper, the $14.97 walmart queen air mattress will give you a good nights sleep. And yes I do know that TOGR is more for the backpackers. Luke dose an excellent job in helping me hold down the overall vehicle weight of my four wheeler. Also TOGR has saved me time and money in getting the right gear the first time.
This is what I like about this channel, someone who hasn’t been bought off by anyone or any company but who still gives a fair and reasoned analysis of a product.
I've had it a few years and taken it out a few times. I haven't done intense testing or anything but, coming from someone who never owned a sleeping pad and just used a piece of foam: it's significantly more comfortable and easier to carrier. Most comfortable nights sleep I've had in a tent. I cannot compare it to more premium pads. For what I spent I think it was certainly worth the money.
I have a re-label and agree. Pretty decent! Not the best, absolutely not the worst and way better than the old foam pads. Especially considering size, weight and price.
For $40 I dig this pad quite a bit. I agree they are way overzealous with their marketing, but that aside its well worth the $40. I bring my shortened Thermarest closed foam pad when hiking and I just throw this in the pack as a bonus. On top of a foam pad its total luxury for cheap, doubles my R value and adds some air cushion, even better in a hammock. That aside and the reviews aside, its the best selling pad because its 40 bucks, its that simple. And if you trash it you get a new one. My only con is its loud as hell.
I have this pad. It's very comfortable for me, especially if I put a closed cell foam pad under my upper body. I haven't had any leaks yet. My main complaint is that it won't stay under me. I wake up and it's either by my side or the only part of me is still on it; my head & shoulders. I guess I move around too much during sleep. I thought I could fix it by, putting it inside my sleeping bag. That finally helped. It's really good for sleeping in my car too.
I’ve seen a couple of backpackers here on YT recommend this pad as a decent budget option. I almost picked one up for my son (14) because he only likes to camp/backpack in the summer and doesn’t need a pad with a high R-value. I’m glad I passed on this one.
If it's only for the summer then this is not bad because a kid doesn't need a lot of thickness in the pad and the R rating doesn't matter in the summer. This is not a bad pad, just a little over rated and not good for cold conditions. Anyways what pad did you went with? I hope you didn't spend 150$+ on a professional pad for a kid lol unless you're rich.
Ice Queen: This IS a decent pad. I've slept well on it. It should take care of your son. It's quite good enough. If someone wants a pad that is 3 or 4 inches thick, it will be more expensive.
I have this pad and used it several times in all seasons, I use it in conjunction with a sleeping bag with a bivy, so I dont lose too much heat from the low R rating. I paid 27 bucks for it a few months back, they had a great coupon on Amazon. Its a good budget pad. Some reviewers who are accustomed to a lot better gear will not like it. Its kind of like going from a Mercedes then renting a Ford, while it does the same thing, its just not the same.
*Sleepingo!* Auto correct got me again! Tried to edit the original reply to correct that but YT kept "failing to post"....
@@paladin11C40 Wow that was a steal! Yea for 27$ you can't do better than this! then when you have more money and experiment you can upgrade what you need. This is the best way to go.
Unfortunately, I bought my stuff in a hurry and tried to get middle of the line/good gear right off the bat because I may have to camp in cold climate and because I need smaller gear to carry in a backpack. I went with a 100$ Hammock Gear Pad that has 4 R Rating and 2.5 Inches and packs really nicely and a Econo Quilt that's not economical at all!!! but it's really good 20c rating and packs small for around 200$. My tent is a Greycliff 2, I can't find ANY reviews on it but it's the best I could find for the price (175$) and very similar to the Lynx 2 but with more mesh.
Also, I do like the ease of deflating it, compared to my thermorest pad.
As far as Amazon reviews, whenever I leave a bad review on a product, it magically never shows up in the review section
I actually received a request once on a negative review I made asking me to edit the review. The company even sent me the preferred wording. As a result, do not trust any reviews and do outside research. This is for Amazon or any other company.
@@ebeavis1991 oh wow, that's shady! the worst I've seen is when the package arrives with a note saying "send us a screenshot of your 5-star review and we'll send you these accessories". The ones that do that, I get the accessories and then immediately update my review to the actual feelings about the product (and a note that they "bought" my review)
Thanks for the review, I am 205 lbs, & my girlfriend is 230 lbs, we won't even think of getting these.
So I bought this pad and used it a few times... and I have to say, I like it for ONE purpose: hammock camping. This thing isn't rigid and so it conforms to the shape of my hammock and works great for hammock camping to give some insulation and comfort (though I prob wouldn't use just on its own in temps below 60 or so... (I usually sleep with a 40º bag) lower than that, I'd add an underquilt to the hammock to sleep more comfortably). I went and picked up a Big Agnes Q-Core insulated pad for tent camping as I do tend to be a side-sleeper sometimes. This pad was much thicker and comfier for ground sleeping and had a higher R-Value as well for lower temps. It's good to test out your gear and know which works best for certain applications!
Just saw the news about the insane amount of flooding in the NC, mountains. I hope you guys are OK. PLEASE STAY SAFE!
I had two outdoorsman labs, they both started leaking about 3 years after I bought them. One was barely ever used, and the other was used almost 1-2x weekly. I never could find the leaks, I think it was near the valve. There is no lifetime warranty with them.
I've been using this for 3 years. Obviously not designed for winter. I have no problems with it. I am a side sleeper and haven't had any issues. They are now under $30. Its a good buy for a casual.
I bought one of these as a "beginner" pad. It was fine for six nights, then started leaking in the middle of the 7th night. Luckily I had a Thermarest z-lite foam pad under that, otherwise I would have been really cold (the Sleepingo does have *some* R-value because I would feel the cold whenever I slipped off the pad, which was often). The company sent me a replacement, but I went on to buy myself a much thicker/warmer Big Agnes pad. I'd say that this pad is fine for a beginner who's trying to get together a bunch of gear without spending too much: it's cheap and it's light. It can get someone like me out in the woods, and eventually they can upgrade.
Ultralight, comfortable, cheap...pick two.
And comfort is relative.
"there's nothing sleek about this, they didn't reinvent the wheel here."
Dunno why but that made me laugh out loud.
They should've drawn a pair of sunglasses on the pouch lol
I have this, a different brand, which I got from aliexpress for $20. Bought it for my son for summer camping as it is small and light. Works really well for that purpose, and would buy again.
Candor & honesty is why I watch your channel, Luke. Strength & honor.
My wife and I live in southwest Washington state. We play in the cascade mountains. We have been on trail with the outdoorsman lab version for the past three years. We have had no issues and we like them. Of course they are not the best of the best but, they are good enough for us. If mine will ever give up the ghost, I will get a nicer one. But until then........
I'm afraid, I have to agree with you. I have owned one for 2 years. And, I have always found it comfortable. I weigh 220 lbs. And am strictly a side sleeper. I simply blow it up firmer. I should note however, that I do prefer a much firmer mattress. I basically only need padding for my hips. So, I might not be the best example.
I do agree with you on the deceptive advertising. Had I known that, at the time, I would have chosen another product.
Bought 2 in 08/2018 , used both at least 30 trips and have had zero problems with them.
I purchased this pad earlier this year. Used it several times camping/backpacking. I loved the price and actually found it fairly comfortable as a side sleeper. Took good care it, always being careful to not puncture it. However it only lasted for five trips. Never fun to wake up in the middle of the night with your hips digging into the ground because all the air has leaked out. Definitely not planning to purchase another, looking a higher quality pad in the near future.
Im 200lbs and sleep on my side. Thank you for your review i will try and find somerhing better.
I bought this in January of 2022 and have taken it on several camping trips! It is great for a budget pad!! Budget being the key word. If you can't afford a better pad , like me, then this will do fine!! Have used it on several camping trips this year with no issues.
Thanks for the review! I will be passing on this sleeping pad for two reasons - I am 6’6” and weigh 210 pounds. I have all my gear picked out except for the sleeping pad. I am concerned about weight (as any backpacker should be). I am also concerned about comfort. My budget for a pad is $50-150.
i have one these and I honestly have zero problems with it. i dont use it for hiking and camping but I do use it for sleeping outdoor in a tent or even in the car. it blows up nice, it folds up nice. Kind of noisy and if I put it in a sleeping bag it doesn't move.145 pounds, sleep on my back and sometimes my side, no problems at least if this is on a cot. On the ground side sleeping is tough unless you have something really thick.
I'm a side sleeper..and I have this pad..I weigh 215 lbs. So far I really like this pad.
I’ve had this for 3 years, never a issue, love it! Use it year around!
I was a dumb dumb and bought it. I only use it in the warm weather. It is fairly comfortable and light. It just deflates overnight several times. 3 or 4 times a night refill my air pad.
We’ll!!! During my break time at work(construction job)I lay down on sheets of drywall and I sleep like a baby,now I imagine if I had one of these to take to work so I can rest during my break lol
Hope you’re doing well Luke. I did enjoyed your review, but wished I had seen this video before purchasing the ‘Sleepingo’ sleep pad. I’m a side sleeper and it felt like an uneven bubble wrap. I actually thought it lost air, or failed to inflate all the way, but neither were the case. I admit, I was one of those who based the purchase on the number of reviews, second the size and third the cost. Keeping it for my daughter, who still has sleep-overs with her girlfriends. Now researching sleeping cots instead, for my car camping adventures. Drift safe Brutha!
Thank you!! Wow, you cut through the BS and make it very clear about what this product is, and what it isn't.
Sleepingo's compact pad offers great support and easy deflation, fitting backpacking needs. The slippery surface causes slight slippage in the sleeping bag. Noisy cells affect sleep, lowering the rating.
Had one. Used it twice... It has practically no R-value. I froze my butt off in 50° temps with my 20° down quilt. There are just too many gaps in the pad that have no air. I learned quickly, DON'T skimp out on your sleep system unless you're always camping in warm summer temps. I ended up waiting for a sale and picked up a Therm-a-rest Xlite Women's, because it seemed to have the highest R-value for the weight of all the pads I looked at.
THANK YOU!! We have been thinking about getting this pad for our camping and this says it all!! Thank you!! Say Hi to Susie for me!! Hugs🥰
I use the Teton XXL Camp Pad...It's 9 lbs., every bit of 82" long, 38" wide and a Full 2 1/2" thick all the way around...It cost $100...Is Seriously water repellant with a canvas cover and tie loops at each corner for a cot...I'd rather spend 2x as much and carry an extra 8 pounds for added comfort and protection...And I weigh 280 lbs!!!
I prefer to carry my bed with me. 130 lbs. Comfort is great. Decided to bring the house too. Its a great shelter camping 👍
Canvas cover n tie loops? Cot? R u carrying the cot too? Please elaborate
😂 while you’re at it load up the 12 man canvas tent.
I'm sorry, but I can't leave this one alone. You have never backpacked in your life have you? When you say carry, I assume you're referring to carrying it to your car. Probably a Subaru...
@@Stonepotwaffles It has them if you want to tie them down if you use a cot...What's the issue??
I have this pad. I’m 50yrs old (the ground is not my friend) and I weigh around 300lbs, so I thought that’d be a good test for it. Honestly, if it’d stay underneath me, it would be tolerable. It’s so slippery that I can’t stay on it for more than an hour or so at a time, and if you’re not on a dead level spot, forget about it. I even tried it inside my sleeping bag. It still ended up on top of me. I did use it on one night that dipped into the 30’s as a wind break at the end of my tarp shelter. It worked great for that. I’m gonna buy something thicker, wider, and heavier, and more expensive, like I should have to begin with.
I own one of these pads. I weigh around the vicinity of 180lbs. My butt was on the ground the entire night, basically. I may as well have slept on a folded mat/blanket because it would have been the same.
It's a cheap pad. I myself regret the purchase but for anyone who is lighter than I am, it probably works just fine. Another issue was that I would slide around on it a bit, but that was a problem solved with a thin towel under the pad itself to keep it from moving out from under me.
I have this pad and I like it. Im a side sleeper too. 5 foot 9 190lbs. No leaks so far.
It’s scary because it gives a novice hiker the idea that they are prepared. Cheap junk. With Amazon, I research what I’m buying first, then buy from them if I like the deal. I like prime shipping, so I do buy from Amazon a lot, just not based on the ratings.
I originally bought this and it leaked the second time I took it out. Maybe I got a lemon, but I returned it with no hassle and bought the Klymit version, which I love and have purchased 3 now.
tháts why I started reading ony negative reviews, and judging for myself if the negatives apply to me if at all, saved me alot of hassle :)
Thank you. We are surrounded by liars and so many lie that there is not even a 2nd thought about it. If we are gonna get better at all lying needs to end.
Hi from Syracuse NY brother and thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures and your family and everyone else
Most reviews on any website are ridiculous. I was looking recently for hiking attire...reviews were all over the map. For one article of clothing, reviews were "fits true to size", "fit is small...get a size up", "fit is a little big...may want to go a size down". WTF.
This is true. But I think it’s because a lot of people really don’t know what size they are. I have a friend who is 5’ 8” and 115lbs. He wears a large t-shirt. He’s a small all day long. The large looks like a tent on him but he likes it.
Hey Luke and Susan hope y'all are doing well much love your way be safe have a wonderful week💝❤💜💙💚💛
Thank you for this video. I never knew they inflated reviews like that. Makes since. Think from now on I'll look to reviews on youtube instead of amazon
I've had one of the other labels. Used it in a pinch and it was minimal. It lives in my emergency pack if I need to insulate from cold ground.
solid review. i've used the outdoorsmanlab since 2018 and have had only 1 rough night of sleep (below 0 in Banff). no real complaints especially if i paid only $22 for it!
There's a special place in hell for scammers. Thanks for exposing that crap.
For about 20.00 more I bought a Klymit Static V...very glad i did
Used this pad on my appalachian trail hike this year. Planned on using it until it started leaking, it never leaked after 5.5 months of daily use. I wouldn't use it in cold weather, but it sure beats a foam pad.
I inherited two of these pads. Found that when doubled up, it's comfortable enough.
I have not used this yet but purchased it along with a bunch of other gear to start Motorcycle camping... Then I searched reviews on YT and found yours which I was happy to see as I started following your channel a few months ago :).
I purchased this without too much worry due to the fact that I will be using it on a small cot so will not be directly on the ground. I am just getting too old for that. Not intentional, but my cot, this pad and my sleeping bag (also one you have reviewed) are all some shade of green.
I am a little conflicted as I almost think it should go back on principle, but on the other hand, for the price, it is probably good enough for my needs, and because I will not be directly on the ground. Edit: I went to return it on Amazon and it is non returnable due to hazmat regulations??? That is not reassuring. Looked at other brands return eligibility (Exped for example) and did not see the same warning.
I also bought a Lone Rider Moto tent... I was leaning strongly towards getting one before I found your review, but it helped seal the deal (got it on Black Friday, so saved a bit on it at least). Fits my bike well of course, but I also wanted a tent I can stand in. Can't wait for slightly warmer temps to start my weekend adventures!
Mine came in yesterday. At 285# laying on my side, my hip didn't touch the floor. I'll put it to the test 10 days.
All the biggest brand are going away from amazon because of the reliability of the reviews, amazon should take more seriously fakes reviews. Great video over all, i was looking for a cheap sliping pad and now im even more confused :D
I’ve used an Intey brand I got off Amazon a year ago for around $30. I’ve used it in a hammock and tent. I’m a side sleeper and I can say it’s pretty ok. I got a sleepingo a couple weeks ago based on reviews and positive videos. I won’t use it by itself, but together with the intey? Chef’s kiss. They are the same size and weight. Worth the extra space they take up in my pack.
I really wish Amazon would stop ranking products based on reviews. In theory it sounds like a good idea but it hasn't worked in practice for years and they just won't let it go.
I bought a back up camera for my motorhome on Amazon, works great but they told me if I gave them a positive review they'd send another for free. I like the camera so I did and got two cameras.
Deception lowers the level of communication. Honesty is an important value, and contributes to a healthy society, healthy communication, and healthy relationships.
Remeasure the dimensions of the pad uninflated. In the early days of inflatable pads companies had a hard time gagging the width and length of the pad when it was inflated vs. uninflated. Big Agnes had an early version that was 20 inches wide when uninflated but inflated was only 16 inches wide. They had to go back and redesign the pad.
I know this is an older video-- algorithm is weird-- thanks for sharing and discussing the deception. I agree that alone should be concerning and a reason to avoid them. You said at one point side sleepers need 3in minimum, I thru-hiked AT last year and CDT this year (daily vlogs from each) and I have always slept on a 2.5in mat very comfortably as a side sleeper. Just a heads up for future reference. Love the channel, been checking it off and on for a while now!
I have to admit it's a little funny going straight from "I wouldn't recommend this product because they faked the reviews to game the algorithm" to "don't forget to comment, like, and subscribe to help me game the algorithm." The world we live in today.
But at least his honest.. for now..😏
I'll have to use fakespot in the future, because I was definitely swindled by the reviews of this product. I bought one for my camping trip and boy was it uncomfortable!
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I have this sleeping pad and I have not had any problems with it. I am also a side sleeper and weigh 175 lbs. I put it in my sleeping bag and I put a sleeping bag liner. The last time I used it in early November in Northern Arizona I slept very well.
A fact about rough camping is.....you will never be 100% comfortable and will just have to suck it up. I did 22 years in the military as a foot soldier and the gear we were issued was top notch....but still had plenty of nights being really uncomfortable...thus sucking it up!
Always had Thermarest (trail large). Still do. No huffin and puffin, it blows itself up while i drink coffee...well, maybe a couple puffs to get it tight. This video made me laugh....out loud.
Disclaimer, I only hammock camp and I live in Hawaii, but I've had this pad for about 2 years and have used it probably close to 100 times. I have had absolutely no problems with it at all. It provides plenty of padding for me, helps with keeping me warm without needing an underquilt, has never punctured and is pretty light weight. I wouldn't use it with a tent, but for a hammock, I love it.
i never considerd buying/useing this product before and this honest review will keep me from buying this product thanks for the heads up
I am a 6+ footer with 24 inch shoulders and can side sleep comfortablyon my Klymit Static V...the first time on a hardwood floor. Good review as always.
Good review. Always questioned Amazon reviews, thank you for letting your viewers about FakeSpot. Really appreciate your honesty and advice.