I am always armed when I boondock. I train regularly and hold a Concealed Carry Permit. Also spent years in the military, some as armed Law Enforcement. I am not a threat to anyone but refuse to be a victim.
Four years ago, I did the same training that police get for learning the right way to shoot (slightly shorter version), and went through various testing skills by instructors who are Sherrif Deputies. It was awesome! I found out I enjoy shooting at targets and that I am a really good shot. Guys in my class couldn't believe it was my first time with a 98% score. 🤗 Having said that, I also have not practiced since then, and that's key for anyone carrying, especially remembering safe handling. So, next week I'm going back for a refresher, will finally apply for my CCW permit, but also schedule some practice sessions. It's legal to carry in my state, but I want a higher level of confidence, and the permit is accepted in 35 states which is good for my long trips next year. I don't want to be a victim, either, especially of my own gun.
Love that you guys are bringing attention to this subject! Being aware of our surroundings is basic, but looking out for fellow campers is a good idea as well. Great work as always on this sensitive subject for some, thanks again Grand Adventure!
As you're new to boondocking, as we mentioned in the video, don't let this affect your impression of dispersed camping. This was a random, one-off event. However, we figured what's a few bucks for some extra peace of mind?
I thought of you back then because I knew within hours that this couple was missing and then found they were found near where you had been. Facebook is far-reaching and I have family in NH near the Butler’s family.
@@kimsargeant8126 during the investigation we were in communication with their son. Our hearts go out to the Butlers' family and friends, this was such an unnecessary tragedy. We had looked at the site for their camp at "The Bowl" and would have likely taken that spot for ourselves, had it not been already occupied. It was one of the best spots along that entire stretch of beach.
Onion layers. Driveway motion sensors then cameras finally well armed. The further out you can’t detect a problem coming the better. Set the driveway motion detectors in natural choke points. Then a layer of cameras so you can observe the problem approaching. Hopefully you will never have to use the inner most circle.
One of the things that is happening in America . Is most of the people are above 50. And you have to realize your vehicles have your state tags . And people who are looking to do something to you look for those out of state tags . Regardless of how many people say they never have any of these things happen are usually not paying much attention as they are having fun . I wish that those who make the doors on Rv ‘s made them where you could lock the screen then the door from the inside like a house . And I wish they would do better on the windows . The security is awful . Glad to see your video.
Great video and I agree with your take on things. Cameras (and even signs warning of cameras in use) are huge in that they take away the element of surprise and can provide evidence if needed. Anyone with a brain would move on. Situational awareness of what is going on outside also gives you the minute or two you need to grab...whatever. What one has/does in that situation, once trouble is at the door...is entirely personal.
Thanks for reminding us of the importance of security. I keep curtains closed so preditors can't look in. I had a "beware of the dog" sign on one RV that I owned. AND I try to stay away from people.
Wow Marc, good work. That would have rattled me a little. We use the blink cameras both at home and on the road. Another important video. Thanks again Continue to be safe.
The subject of personal protection and safety should not be a political issue. It is a God given right. Glock makes very nice security cameras, they come in different price ranges and calibers. Thank you for this video.
Trickey subject well done! The only thing I'll add is if there is someone near you, even boondocking, check them out and make friends. Come right out and ask them to keep an eye on your camp. Most are more than willing to exchange the favor. Boondocking Neighborhood Watch.
I hadn't heard they found that pairs killers. That event shook this community like nothing I've seen. So glad, and so glad to see what you use for security!! Thanks!
That incident hit much, much too close to home for our comfort, Candie. Last I heard the case had yet to be adjudicated, but they finally added murder charges last month: www.unionleader.com/news/crime/two-indicted-in-texas-for-the-murder-of-rumney-couple
Marc, I could almost guarantee you that this maniac had caused you and Patricia out as well as all of the other campers in that campground. The thing, that I think made the biggest difference to me was Zoe. She may have saved your lives. The killer didnt know if she was attack trained or not and why go thru the trouble of fighting off a dog when there were other people there that were alot more vulnerable and easier to take down. Zoe deserves a bone or a toy or something for her efforts. Pay attention to her if you are pulling into an area she doesn't seem to like, or she isnt her usual self please pay attention to her and move. Dogs know people better than we know people. Be safe, take care.
Tom made a similar comment, Helen. Zoe may well have been a factor, we'll never know. But as for a toy or bone...trust us, she's already well pampered! LOL Appreciate your thoughts.
I commented on your other video about camping theft, you had so many good ideas about how to store things, and lock everything up so I am going to buy this stuff. I would like to say, thank you for all those ideas because I wanted a trailer but haven't had way to get a trailer, plus the cost, but I love all of those ideas on locking everything up, and the supplies, as you know, I hope you're the one who made that other video because I like to say a big thank you for sharing.
Our pleasure, Roxanne. FYI, should you wish to set up a camera system, the cameras featured in this video are no longer available in the style shown, so we've since shifted over to the Wyze ecosystem: czcams.com/video/LdsIkmuT3B8/video.html
Mark - I purchased one of the Hiseeu cameras but found two serious flaws with it. 1st - The camera must be connected to a wi-fi network to work. Being in range of a cell tower will not connect the camera to your cell phone, unless you also have wi-fi at the cameras location. 2nd - Although the camera has a SD Memory card, it will not record unless it is connected to wi-fi. I have confirmed this with the company via numerous e-mails. As an added note, the camera has no indicator of the battery life, and, when charging the camera it has no way of informing you that it is fully charged. Therefore, if the batteries are dead the camera will not function and you may not know that it isn't working. Thanks P.S. Are you aware of any cameras that will connect to a cell phone when no wi-fi is available???
Great feedback, KC. Thanks for sharing that. We always have WiFi in our trailer because of the nano router we're using in conjunction with our Visible phone czcams.com/video/VrigHuE6igw/video.html . Even if we're out of cell range, the camera is still connected to the router, as is our phone, so a) the camera has a WiFi signal to connect to (even if it lacks Internet), and b) we still get motion notifications over the LAN. But no, we haven't tried to look for a camera that will connect to a phone directly without a network. That's because that cheap nano router always provides a network.
Padre Island is my home. Very sad that people commit terrible crimes. Have camped on that beach so many times with no problem, but now always armed. Enjoy your channel much, have my own too, but still building it up. It's just my name for the name of the channel. Hope to one day yall out there somewhere traveling. Michael
Hope to see you out there too, Michael! And it will be our pleasure to check out your channel. We in no way felt unsafe or insecure while we were camped on your island; it was only afterward when we learned of the situation with the Butlers, we had already moved on to Rockport, then Canyon Lake, and we were actually in New Mexico when word first reached us. You have a beautiful home area that you should be justifiably proud of. We were active in the North Padre Islanders FB group while this was all coming together, and the sense of community and dedication among islanders to address this issue truly left us impressed.
I can’t believe that you actually met the killer. But I’m not surprised that you are not capitalizing on it like I know other channels would. I do want to get security cameras. You are a trusted voice so I will show this to Larry. Thank you so much for honest reviews. I agree. Let’s not get political in this great RV community. Alice
Thanks Alice! We waited to do this episode on purpose, as we didn't want to appear that we were trying to capitalize on the Butlers' misfortune in any way. When we had another security camera, that seemed like a good time to explain *why* we suddenly have a penchant for using security cameras. Our meeting with the suspect was pure chance. When we arrived on Padre Island, with overnight lows in the 80s we knew that we had to wait for a cold front before boondocking on the beach, so we set up in the Padre Balli County Park campground to have hookups for a/c. Our goal, though, was beach boondocking, so we took a drive on the beach to scope out the situation. It was there that we saw the suspect's Utah tags, so that gave us a reason to pull over to discuss where the high tide line had been, etc.
I go into Canada often and to gun free zones all over the US so I can't carry a gun. BUT for $46 I bought a flair gun from Walmart. I'm fully confident that a hot flare into a bad guy... or even as a warning shot would save my money, property AND my virginity!
Thanks for this video. It definitely was an isolated event. What I think about is a mechanical breakdown while traveling, and never knowing what dangers may be around the area in which you are stranded. So much crime happens because of opportunity, and elderly folks like me are easy targets if our transportation becomes disabled. Maybe law enforcement will come to the rescue.....maybe not.
That's a great point, Thomas. I'd think that much of that risk could be mitigated somewhat by avoiding driving through urban areas so the possibility of breaking down in a "bad area" is greatly reduced.
We are looking at video security cameras for our home and RV now. I like your approach in this video and how you handled the 2nd amendment portion as well. Keep it up and keep on enjoying like. Well done.
Always take precautions even while you are having fun. If you need to be blissfully unaware of danger then you are a danger to others and should be avoided.
Good question. We've since switched over to Wyze, and their outdoor battery cam would certainly work in that scenario as long as there's a router in the middle.
That’s crazy Marc! Knowing you were that close to a potential killer. Thought about you guys after I heard the story of the couple because I remembered you video of Padre Island. Stay safe bro!
Thanks Marc for sharing a lot of good advice and common sense. There is some real evil out there. Anyone with tattoos like that does not think like I do and would not be someone I would want to be around. Sterotyping, maybe. I call it recognizing patterns which we all do in many aspects of daily life. I read a little bit about the Butlers. They seemed like several RVer CZcamsrs I follow. What a terrible thing to happen to them. Life seems so unfair at times. I was boondocking a few years ago when law enforcement took down an escaped prisoner in a forest camp ground about 3 miles from me. He had murdered a retired RV couple in New Mexico, burnt the trailer with the couple's bodies inside and stole the truck. When captured, he said he was sorry he decided not to kill the forest service person that recognized him. I have been in several situations where with hind sight, could have been ugly. Always be aware.
Much of Williams' body art was hidden by clothing and hair when we spoke with him. I've got to be honest, I've known some pretty heavily tatted-up people over the years. It may be hard to picture now, but I'm a product of the punk music scene of the 80s. 😎 That's why when others pointed to this guy, I dismissed it as stereotyping. Then we saw the border photo and I instantly realized that they were right.
@@GrandAdventure Punk Rock Marc ... Has a nice ring to it! That guy had quite a rap sheet. When reading about the Butlers, I saw a police shot showing his body art. His whole upper body was near solid ink. Somehow he must of spent thousands on that. He was definitely out there. After consistently seeing photos in the news of violent gang members inked from the top of their head on down it is not much of a leap to wonder about anyone you see like that. I am sure there are some folks like that which are fine but my guess is it is out of the norm. It raises red flags with me. I am extremely glad you and Mrs GA are fine and I can see why that incident can cause you to stop and think. I am back in Quartzsite right at the moment surrounded by safe Canadians! I was in Lake Havasu where I got a secure lockable generator box mounted to the back of the trailer for the Champion. It worked out well. No more lugging generators around. I get lazier every year.
This is not a political answer, but this needs to be said. I was born and raised in a border state, and as a former LEO, I can tell you that being armed at all times is a necessity. The police won’t get there in time to save you, if you have a signal to call them at all. Ya the camera can provide evidence, but your possibly already injured or dead. I won’t allow my family to go through that. Take it for what it is you do what you want.
James, we've been able to use both of them both with Wi-Fi present and also on a local LAN. However, when over a local LAN you of course lose the cloud storage capability.
Our pleasure. It uses Wi-Fi. You can create a Wi-Fi network with a USB-powered nano travel router even if you don't have an Internet source, but then you can only access the cameras locally.
Have you ever looked into Pepper Guns.....they can go where ever you go. Watch the TCP pepperball videos. Just saying incase your afraid of guns and you don't need a permit. I hope you don't mind I posted this to you.
Don't mind whatsoever. We have no adversity to real guns, either, we just don't feel like posting in a public forum whether or not we carry ourselves. Thanks for your suggestion!
If you are a good person ..Arm yourself !!!!! we need them to protect the herd .Cops are not the only source . Good people armed has always been the best way to go .................
Just so you know, we fully support a person's 2nd Amendment right to legally carry. Whether or not someone chooses to exercise that right is, as far as we're concerned, a personal decision beyond the scope of what we wanted to address in this video.
It's a network camera, so yes it utilizes Wi-Fi. However, we use a nano travel router in the rig so it will provide visibility on a mobile device via Intranet, or remote access if there's an Internet connection available.
To be honest, it's just a matter of following the instructions provided with the camera, and a little bit of networking. However, our preferred camera in this video is no longer available in the same form, and we have since switched over to Wyze.
Great info. I've been looking at cameras for the RV. I wish I could find one that is hard to steal. They should have a mechanism that you could connect a small cable and lock to secure it to the mount.
Excellent point. However, by the time someone were to take it a) you'd be aware that something was going on, thanks to the notification; and b) you'd have a terrific shot of the culprit on your phone.
That's a terrifying story! We bought these (Hiseeu) cameras when you first introduced them and we love them! We haven't taken them camping yet (just at home) but we are going to soon!
James, first off, 99% of the time we have Internet via our Visible phone/nano router setup that we explain in our Episode 117 czcams.com/video/VrigHuE6igw/video.html . A cell phone booster (either Episode 39 czcams.com/video/sRMMyiu1WIg/video.html or Episode 136 czcams.com/video/eX4OowkC6AE/video.html ) helps to provide signal when we're in fringe areas. As a result, it's been well over a year since we've camped without Internet, and our living situation requires that we have cell signal to be able to work from the RV. Even in incredibly remote areas we've had service, and we're very anxious for the launch of SpaceX's Starlink service later in 2020 which will provide worldwide satellite Internet, eliminating those few dead spots that we can't camp in now. Starlink promises simple setup, sufficient speed and reasonable cost. We'll see if they deliver on those promises, but I don't put anything past Elon Musk. So we must confess that we haven't yet used either camera, the Hiseeu or the Litmor, without Internet. But in theory, even if we're outside of cell data range, both the camera and phone are networked together via the nano router that we shared in Episode 117 as part of our Internet solution. That network may have no Internet if we're outside cell service range, but they're still on the same LAN.
Mark...I wanted to share your video where you got stuck after it rained heavy. My son lives out your way and I thought he would enjoy it. I can't remember the title or date...can you help?
The ones that do not require an Internet connection can communicate with your mobile device over a LAN created by a nano router; however, as we always have Internet anywhere (thank you Starlink!) we've since converted over to Wyze Outdoor cameras czcams.com/video/LdsIkmuT3B8/video.html
So if you were to use only one of the cameras, which one would it be? The litmor has a weird mount and can't be mounted like an arlo with a universal mount.
Interesting question, Jaz. While the features are essentially the same, we'd have to give the nod to the Hiseeu with its low-profile magnetic mount. When the camera is off the mount, it's rather aerodynamic for driving. And that magnet is *strong*. We've actually forgotten to take it down once and drove a full tank of gas, before stopping to pump more and noticing the camera up there, still on the mount. It survived a couple of hours at 75 mph.
Thank you for the security video. I’m not sure that I understand how it works. You boondock in out of the way locations. How is the camera sending video to your phone without internet.
First off, 99% of the time we have Internet via our Visible phone/nano router setup that we explain in our Episode 117 czcams.com/video/VrigHuE6igw/video.html . A cell phone booster (either Episode 39 czcams.com/video/sRMMyiu1WIg/video.html or Episode 136 czcams.com/video/eX4OowkC6AE/video.html ) helps to provide signal when we're in fringe areas. As a result, it's been well over a year since we've camped without Internet, and our living situation requires that we have cell signal to be able to work from the RV. Even in incredibly remote areas we've had service, and we're very anxious for the launch of SpaceX's Starlink service later in 2020 which will provide worldwide satellite Internet, eliminating those few dead spots that we can't camp in now. Starlink promises simple setup, sufficient speed and reasonable cost. We'll see if they deliver on those promises, but I don't put anything past Elon Musk. So we must confess that we haven't yet used either camera, the Hiseeu or the Litmor, without Internet. But in theory, even if we're outside of cell data range, both the camera and phone are networked together via the nano router that we shared in Episode 117 as part of our Internet solution. That network may have no Internet if we're outside cell service range, but they're still on the same LAN.
Your need to do what works do yourself, my wife and I when we were young lived in a apartment next to a guy who turned out to be a serial killer. (Yes and he truly the nicest guy) so I don’t take chances any more and make sure we are safe at all times. He killed 4 women and one I beloved called 911 but they were to late, we may have gotten lucky.
@@scoop2591 thanks so much. It was a little too close for comfort. FYI we've made some changes to our camera setup that we'll explain in tomorrow night's new episode.
I'm a uk citizen and think if I lived and rv'd in America/canada I would consider the 2nd ammendment my god given right to a CCW. There's too many loons and downright nasty evil people lurking around nowadays even if it's no fault of their own because of mental health issues you can NEVER be too careful and mindful of your surroundings AND people watch always ! Being aware is the key to safety and if your spidey senses start tingling, move on 😉👍
I remember msgn you guys to be careful out there before finding out the Butlers were deceased. So scary and I didn’t know you talked to the guy! I am getting cameras and motion lights because of that situation ,you can never be too safe.
That's pretty much our perspective, Janina. And yes, we remember that messaging! It's disturbing, but not truly frightening to us as it was such a random event, we can't let it affect how we camp or the way we run our lives.
Grand Adventure agreed its not stopping me just makes me more aware! I have always been safe but a refresher never hurts. And being Military I have been around the world. Danger can happen anywhere.
Excellent video as always. I feel very sorry for those people. Were now dealing with heavy population, so there's part of the problem. I will be getting a sprinter van eventually and you can bet it will have serious security measures. I also will have weapons . Years ago you go anywhere and be safe, no more.
I definitely respect your opinion, William, and you're a valued viewer. I'm not sure that I agree that things are worse now than before, though. Crime statistics just don't back that up. In today's information age, I think that we just hear about these things more. Think about it -- 20 or 30 years ago, the story of the Butlers would not have spread beyond the South Texas Coast and central New Hampshire.
My security starts with a good dog. My next line is a shot gun and a Colt 1911 45. Don't forget to register the 45 when entering most States. I also have air horns that are commonly used on boats. In a confined space it will shock any intruder at over 120 dbs.
Everybody's got their own methods, and that dog is going to help give you some advance notice. Plus yep, that air horn will momentarily shock anyone! I think the point, and one which you obviously understand, is to be prepared in some way to handle a situation on your own instead of relying upon someone else to come to your rescue.
Sonofagun, you're right. Thanks for letting us know, Chuck. Hopefully it's just a temporary stock issue as Southwire is still making both the 34830 and 34850 rvpower.southwire.com/products/surge-protection/ .
Yes, this is new footage, Gord. We're also going to share a new camera that we're using (and give one away), discuss the details of that Texas incident and why it left us a bit rattled, and explain what effect that's had on how we approach our camping.
@@GrandAdventure I totally understand how you're left a bit rattled. It's a real lousy aweful feeling from such a close encounter. I think crime is a real issue this country needs to address much more strictly ASAP.
Not necessarily. We don't yet know prosecutors' theory of how they were killed. If someone gets a jump on you, no weapon will necessarily do any good. For example, I could be carrying a bazooka around but that doesn't mean a sniper can't shoot me in the head.
I disagree Marc most criminals look for a weak opportunity in ones defense. This is not war where criminals are hiding in a snipers nest to take you out. Generally when criminals have a notion a person is armed and ready they will move on to the next weak link to bring harm. I like your cameras (this keeps you on the ready) and I also believe in being armed (to defend yourself and family). This is our American history to defend ourselves and our property. If you run from the idea of being armed then you are only setting yourself for dome and misery.
@@jefferygreene9722 I think you've stated your position well, but you're making some unsupported assumptions about my position on being armed. Just saying. 😉
There's NOTHING WRONG w/re-examining our beliefs and thoughts. This Butler's murders were horrid! And to be honest, its scared my family as we prepare to go on the road.
Don't let it do that. If you do, you're just another victim. Respect it, don't fear it. Carry on your lives as you would have otherwise; just let it make you more aware.
A lot of awfully negative world views showing up here. I’d suggest you all get outside, do some traveling, and find some good in this world because there’s still plenty of it despite what the TV might tell you.
Very sorry you experienced such an event in Texas. It's absolutely unnecessary. So, your cameras will store the motion video in the cloud, accessible from wherever you have internet? Or recording stored only inside the cameras? I was telling my neighbor about our auto robbery attempt and she tells me in Mexico and other South American countries they kidnap Americans for ransom fairly often.
You can opt for a cloud storage service with either camera, for a fee. We did not avail ourselves of that service with either camera. However, even without cloud storage, clips are stored in two locations: in the camera, and on your phone when you get the notification. So there is secondary remote storage.
@@GrandAdventure Excellent! I'm using the Ring battery cameras with thin long charge cord into the house. With just one battery pack they seem to last more than a month. They hold 2. Other security camera services are way more than 10 dollars a month, so right now I'm ok with it, especially after actually seeing the 2 creeps in our driveway at 3am. Plus, if cameras stop working or get stolen Ring gives free new one at the 10$ per month rate. I'm just not sure right now about when camping how we're going to get wifi.
@@Hundert1 Excellent. Sounds like you've got those Ring cameras working for you, and that's terrific. If I were you, dealing with the issue in your driveway, I'd have my place secured like Fort Knox. ;) As for Internet while camping, we use a cheap phone through Visible for uncapped, unthrottled, unlimited data for $25/month, along with a 5V DC USB-powered nano router. We explain all of that in this episode: czcams.com/video/VrigHuE6igw/video.html At the time that video was filmed Visible was $40/month, but you can now get it down to $25/month through their Party Pay program.
@@GrandAdventure hahaha Fort Knox ✔👍Thanks much Grand Adventure! I'm really not into pets, but I'm considering getting a silent non barking vicious attack dog and keeping it in the garage away from us so I can open the door from my remote while still in bed. I've never felt so violated and will never forget this incident. I opened my window and yelled GET OUTTA HERE. They took off, but I realized they could have been real crazy and shot me. I mean what is next? Will I awake and find strangers actually in my house? Or watch my front door being kicked down before my very eyes!
@@Hundert1 I understand your feeling of violation, and I'm sure that I'd feel the same way if I were in your shoes. However, as a dog lover myself, if I may implore you: please don't get a dog for that reason. It's really not fair to the dog. If you want a dog for the love and companionship that a dog and its owner share, that's wonderful! And you get the fringe benefit of an animal that puts the security of its "pack" above all other things. But getting a dog for security only, and keeping it locked up in the garage, only ensures that you'll have one miserable and psychologically scarred dog on your hands.
While I understand your reluctance to comment on arming yourself I don't understand how you could consider the Bill of Rights a political statement. The Bill of Rights are the first 10 Amendments to our constitution and the most basic freedoms and rights that we think of today in the United States. One could say that our constitution spells out our nonpolitical rights in relation to our government. However, you may want to view risk it is far greater per square mile or population density in the wild than in the center of New York City.
Shep, I don't disagree with anything you've stated above. That said, we go to great pains to avoid anything on the channel that could be deemed controversial, and whether right or wrong, the fact remains that some folks in this country deem gun rights to be a controversial subject. That's why we took the tack that we did.
BRW...your POINTS like cameras/motion detection etc....make PERFECT SENSE! I also want to say...Your camera work is PHENOMENAL! If u get a chance...I'd so APPRECIATE it if u could check out our channel and give us ANY CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK...u think might help improve our work. Unfortunately, all we have to work w/right now are our Samsung s50 phones.:(
Our apologies that we just found this comment for the first time. We'll definitely check you out, although we feel poorly qualified to provide constructive feedback. Before we even look, though, the best advice we can give is that every video needs to tell a story. That doesn't mean that your shots need to be planned or scripted. Rather, once you're done shooting an area, or a topic, go back through your clips and ask yourself, "What story do I want to tell?" Then arrange your timeline to tell that story -- from premise, through progress or execution, to conclusion. The channels we like to watch, the channels that we subscribe to ourselves, are very good at telling that story, and that's why we enjoy watching them.
"exercise your second amendment rights". I loved that one. True. You're a Trump supporter ! I can feel it.:-) Because Dems want to take away your 2a, Rep's. don't ! Cheers from Belgium. PS. Great video ! Very informative ! PS #2 : DieGoogleDie says : "if there's a guy with elaborate neck tattoos nearby, don't chat with him, leave the area." Also true ! I agree.
Hi Roger About 90% of all Americans, democrats and republicans, want common sense gun laws. Your right… reps won’t change laws because they are so bought by NRA that they won't represent their own constituents. I don’t think the general public needs to own military type weapons, bump stocks or large capacity mags. I have owned pistols and shotguns for 40 yrs. I travel with my S&W 38. I am a democrat.
Beach bum I agree with you wholeheartedly. There’s a reason why civilians cannot own/procure “claymore mines”-Military M18 anti personnel mines to protect their rig when boondocking. Can you imagine someone placing M18,s around their campsite with trip wire triggered to stop intruders and lose pets. This same reason why I believe civilians do not need military style rapid fire assault weapons for their self defense.
If you knew us in person, you'd realize that we, too, are as non-PC as they come. 😎 But just to share where we're coming from, we avoid anything political in GA as we really can't see much point in pissing off 50% of our potential audience. It's a conscious decision that we made way back at GA's inception. We figure, there are plenty of other places out there that people can vent their political frustration, rather than on an RV travel channel. And we fully support your choice to exercise your Second Amendment rights.
So you'er an infomercial for a useless security camera. The reason why it's useless is because it's improperly used, by everyone. The proper use of a security camera is as a force multiplier. Since you can only see what's in front of you, you need to see in areas not in front of you. You put up cameras. You have to watch the camera feed in real time so you can see the threat in real time, so the threat can be addressed in real time. Real time means as it's happening. If you have a recording of what happened, but you can't tell, who, did what. How many times have you seen a video of a crime, but can't see the criminals face? To prevent theft, I lock up my stuff when not using it. Because I refuse to be a victim. I have a dog. I carry a handgun with reload, knife, OC spray, & a handheld flashlight. I have a shotgun near by. I take my safety & the security of my property seriously. I thought about this before something bad happened. I don't take security advice from someone that only thinks about security after something bad happened.
Smart not to dive into the gun debate. I will say that unless you have the same killer instinct of the truly hardened criminal the hesitation to use deadly force could make having a gun a hazard. Just my opinion and why I don't arm myself.
I am always armed when I boondock. I train regularly and hold a Concealed Carry Permit. Also spent years in the military, some as armed Law Enforcement. I am not a threat to anyone but refuse to be a victim.
Four years ago, I did the same training that police get for learning the right way to shoot (slightly shorter version), and went through various testing skills by instructors who are Sherrif Deputies. It was awesome! I found out I enjoy shooting at targets and that I am a really good shot. Guys in my class couldn't believe it was my first time with a 98% score. 🤗
Having said that, I also have not practiced since then, and that's key for anyone carrying, especially remembering safe handling. So, next week I'm going back for a refresher, will finally apply for my CCW permit, but also schedule some practice sessions. It's legal to carry in my state, but I want a higher level of confidence, and the permit is accepted in 35 states which is good for my long trips next year. I don't want to be a victim, either, especially of my own gun.
I really appreciate your calm and rational approach to this subject, without the usual gun bravado.
Love that you guys are bringing attention to this subject! Being aware of our surroundings is basic, but looking out for fellow campers is a good idea as well. Great work as always on this sensitive subject for some, thanks again Grand Adventure!
Appreciate that, Tom! Situational awareness may be basic, but it's sometimes amazing to us how often it's lacking.
Wow!
That’s something else. Very sorry for the loss of this couple.
Thanks for posting this video, especially for us newbies to Boondocking.
As you're new to boondocking, as we mentioned in the video, don't let this affect your impression of dispersed camping. This was a random, one-off event. However, we figured what's a few bucks for some extra peace of mind?
I thought of you back then because I knew within hours that this couple was missing and then found they were found near where you had been. Facebook is far-reaching and I have family in NH near the Butler’s family.
@@kimsargeant8126 during the investigation we were in communication with their son. Our hearts go out to the Butlers' family and friends, this was such an unnecessary tragedy. We had looked at the site for their camp at "The Bowl" and would have likely taken that spot for ourselves, had it not been already occupied. It was one of the best spots along that entire stretch of beach.
Onion layers. Driveway motion sensors then cameras finally well armed. The further out you can’t detect a problem coming the better. Set the driveway motion detectors in natural choke points. Then a layer of cameras so you can observe the problem approaching. Hopefully you will never have to use the inner most circle.
One of the things that is happening in America . Is most of the people are above 50. And you have to realize your vehicles have your state tags . And people who are looking to do something to you look for those out of state tags . Regardless of how many people say they never have any of these things happen are usually not paying much attention as they are having fun . I wish that those who make the doors on Rv ‘s made them where you could lock the screen then the door from the inside like a house . And I wish they would do better on the windows . The security is awful . Glad to see your video.
It’s crazy that someone arming themselves to protect there family is “POLITICAL” But thanks for the info
Why is that crazy?
@@PS987654321PS I left that comment a year ago I have no idea what I was talking about sorry
Yes...we must take all precautions. Peace of mind enables us to relax and enjoy our adventures. Excellent topic! 😉🇨🇦
Thank you Marian!
Great video and I agree with your take on things. Cameras (and even signs warning of cameras in use) are huge in that they take away the element of surprise and can provide evidence if needed. Anyone with a brain would move on. Situational awareness of what is going on outside also gives you the minute or two you need to grab...whatever. What one has/does in that situation, once trouble is at the door...is entirely personal.
Couldn't have said it better ourselves.
Mark, you handle this topic very well. Thank you
Thank you Barbara!
Thanks for reminding us of the importance of security. I keep curtains closed so preditors can't look in.
I had a "beware of the dog" sign on one RV that I owned.
AND I try to stay away from people.
Wow Marc, good work. That would have rattled me a little.
We use the blink cameras both at home and on the road.
Another important video.
Thanks again
Continue to be safe.
Thank you Mark! Happy that Blink is working out for you.
The subject of personal protection and safety should not be a political issue. It is a God given right. Glock makes very nice security cameras, they come in different price ranges and calibers. Thank you for this video.
It shouldn't be a political issue, but in today's era it definitely is.
If your not home who pulls the trigger
I prefer Canik; better trigger
Oh God did not carry a gun
Got to watch this whole video this morning . Great job Marc
Thanks JT!
Trickey subject well done! The only thing I'll add is if there is someone near you, even boondocking, check them out and make friends. Come right out and ask them to keep an eye on your camp. Most are more than willing to exchange the favor. Boondocking Neighborhood Watch.
Great suggestion, TR -- thank you.
I hadn't heard they found that pairs killers. That event shook this community like nothing I've seen. So glad, and so glad to see what you use for security!! Thanks!
That incident hit much, much too close to home for our comfort, Candie. Last I heard the case had yet to be adjudicated, but they finally added murder charges last month: www.unionleader.com/news/crime/two-indicted-in-texas-for-the-murder-of-rumney-couple
@@GrandAdventure and we'll wait to see what the jury thinks
@@duckiegirl58 We can only hope that they get it right.
Marc, I could almost guarantee you that this maniac had caused you and Patricia out as well as all of the other campers in that campground. The thing, that I think made the biggest difference to me was Zoe. She may have saved your lives. The killer didnt know if she was attack trained or not and why go thru the trouble of fighting off a dog when there were other people there that were alot more vulnerable and easier to take down. Zoe deserves a bone or a toy or something for her efforts. Pay attention to her if you are pulling into an area she doesn't seem to like, or she isnt her usual self please pay attention to her and move. Dogs know people better than we know people. Be safe, take care.
Tom made a similar comment, Helen. Zoe may well have been a factor, we'll never know. But as for a toy or bone...trust us, she's already well pampered! LOL Appreciate your thoughts.
I didnt see Tom's comment or I wouldn't have doubled up. Is Zoe a chocolate lab? Maggie (also a great dog, RIP) was a golden retriever?
Appreciate your information, looking forward to your next video.
Thank you Gary! We look forward to bringing that next episode to you.
Sobering when such a horrific crime is that close.
That's the right descriptor.
I commented on your other video about camping theft, you had so many good ideas about how to store things, and lock everything up so I am going to buy this stuff. I would like to say, thank you for all those ideas because I wanted a trailer but haven't had way to get a trailer, plus the cost, but I love all of those ideas on locking everything up, and the supplies, as you know, I hope you're the one who made that other video because I like to say a big thank you for sharing.
Our pleasure, Roxanne. FYI, should you wish to set up a camera system, the cameras featured in this video are no longer available in the style shown, so we've since shifted over to the Wyze ecosystem: czcams.com/video/LdsIkmuT3B8/video.html
Mark - I purchased one of the Hiseeu cameras but found two serious flaws with it.
1st - The camera must be connected to a wi-fi network to work. Being in range of a cell tower will not connect the
camera to your cell phone, unless you also have wi-fi at the cameras location.
2nd - Although the camera has a SD Memory card, it will not record unless it is connected to wi-fi.
I have confirmed this with the company via numerous e-mails.
As an added note, the camera has no indicator of the battery life, and, when charging the camera it has no way of informing you that it is fully charged. Therefore, if the batteries are dead the camera will not function and you may not know that it isn't working.
Thanks
P.S. Are you aware of any cameras that will connect to a cell phone when no wi-fi is available???
Great feedback, KC. Thanks for sharing that. We always have WiFi in our trailer because of the nano router we're using in conjunction with our Visible phone czcams.com/video/VrigHuE6igw/video.html . Even if we're out of cell range, the camera is still connected to the router, as is our phone, so a) the camera has a WiFi signal to connect to (even if it lacks Internet), and b) we still get motion notifications over the LAN.
But no, we haven't tried to look for a camera that will connect to a phone directly without a network. That's because that cheap nano router always provides a network.
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Love ya Chris! Thanks so much.
Padre Island is my home. Very sad that people commit terrible crimes. Have camped on that beach so many times with no problem, but now always armed. Enjoy your channel much, have my own too, but still building it up. It's just my name for the name of the channel. Hope to one day yall out there somewhere traveling. Michael
Hope to see you out there too, Michael! And it will be our pleasure to check out your channel. We in no way felt unsafe or insecure while we were camped on your island; it was only afterward when we learned of the situation with the Butlers, we had already moved on to Rockport, then Canyon Lake, and we were actually in New Mexico when word first reached us. You have a beautiful home area that you should be justifiably proud of. We were active in the North Padre Islanders FB group while this was all coming together, and the sense of community and dedication among islanders to address this issue truly left us impressed.
wow! A startling close call! We've been following the Padre Island case, and already picked up some Reolink cameras for our own RV.
Great minds think alike. Thanks for sharing, LW!
I can’t believe that you actually met the killer. But I’m not surprised that you are not capitalizing on it like I know other channels would. I do want to get security cameras. You are a trusted voice so I will show this to Larry. Thank you so much for honest reviews. I agree. Let’s not get political in this great RV community. Alice
Thanks Alice! We waited to do this episode on purpose, as we didn't want to appear that we were trying to capitalize on the Butlers' misfortune in any way. When we had another security camera, that seemed like a good time to explain *why* we suddenly have a penchant for using security cameras. Our meeting with the suspect was pure chance. When we arrived on Padre Island, with overnight lows in the 80s we knew that we had to wait for a cold front before boondocking on the beach, so we set up in the Padre Balli County Park campground to have hookups for a/c. Our goal, though, was beach boondocking, so we took a drive on the beach to scope out the situation. It was there that we saw the suspect's Utah tags, so that gave us a reason to pull over to discuss where the high tide line had been, etc.
Refusing to be a victim is not political. But when liberals feel uncomfortable they call it political! Hard truths are more important than feelings!
Yes, you do have to have safety measures in place while camping
Best to err on the side of caution, Roxanne, although we don't let it rule us.
Yes, I understand, but if it was me, It probably would of me.
Wanted to let you know that I have a 2007 trailblazer,almost like the one maybe you had, but I love it!!!!!
I go into Canada often and to gun free zones all over the US so I can't carry a gun.
BUT for $46 I bought a flair gun from Walmart. I'm fully confident that a hot flare into a bad guy... or even as a warning shot would save my money, property AND my virginity!
Terry, I can see that being potentially disastrous if fired inside, but whatever works for you. Be safe out there.
Good idea
Great idea. I can do that too.
Thanks for this video. It definitely was an isolated event. What I think about is a mechanical breakdown while traveling, and never knowing what dangers may be around the area in which you are stranded. So much crime happens because of opportunity, and elderly folks like me are easy targets if our transportation becomes disabled. Maybe law enforcement will come to the rescue.....maybe not.
That's a great point, Thomas. I'd think that much of that risk could be mitigated somewhat by avoiding driving through urban areas so the possibility of breaking down in a "bad area" is greatly reduced.
Yep. There need's to be a gps function that avoids high crime areas. Lol.
Great video great advice I wish you could have shown how you mounted it on the trailer
Thanks so much! We merely stuck the mount to the side of the trailer using 3M's outdoor double-sided mounting tape.
It is not that it is unlikely to happen but that if it does happen you can survive it.
That's a good thought, but we're still of the belief that it's extremely unlikely to happen.
We are looking at video security cameras for our home and RV now.
I like your approach in this video and how you handled the 2nd amendment portion as well.
Keep it up and keep on enjoying like.
Well done.
Thank you so much! For home use, check out the Wyze cams for both quality and value. We're really impressed with ours.
Good video Marc! Glad that you stepped back and reevaluated your safety measures! Didn't see the video description on my cell, but I'll look on my PC.
Thanks Rod! On mobile, the description is there, you just have to tap the little downward-facing triangle to display it.
Always take precautions even while you are having fun. If you need to be blissfully unaware of danger then you are a danger to others and should be avoided.
always maintain your situational awareness, but we also can't drive ourselves crazy with fear of every potential problem that could happen, either.
I think you mean "precautions".
@@nightlightabcd Lol yes corrected it.
New sub, investigating security for our minivan camper trips coming this spring, thanks for sharing ;)
You bet! We are thrilled to have you along, thank you for joining.
What security camera would be best for a 2 person tent and transmitting video to my phone?
Good question. We've since switched over to Wyze, and their outdoor battery cam would certainly work in that scenario as long as there's a router in the middle.
That’s crazy Marc! Knowing you were that close to a potential killer. Thought about you guys after I heard the story of the couple because I remembered you video of Padre Island. Stay safe bro!
It was a bit nuts, Chris! Thanks so much for your thoughts.
That’s why I always pack heat in my RV.
Thank you Marc, I support you. Sorry for the drama last year. Gonna buy a camera through the link.
Appreciate that! I believe that you'll be happy with either one.
Thanks Marc for sharing a lot of good advice and common sense. There is some real evil out there. Anyone with tattoos like that does not think like I do and would not be someone I would want to be around. Sterotyping, maybe. I call it recognizing patterns which we all do in many aspects of daily life.
I read a little bit about the Butlers. They seemed like several RVer CZcamsrs I follow. What a terrible thing to happen to them. Life seems so unfair at times.
I was boondocking a few years ago when law enforcement took down an escaped prisoner in a forest camp ground about 3 miles from me. He had murdered a retired RV couple in New Mexico, burnt the trailer with the couple's bodies inside and stole the truck.
When captured, he said he was sorry he decided not to kill the forest service person that recognized him. I have been in several situations where with hind sight, could have been ugly. Always be aware.
Much of Williams' body art was hidden by clothing and hair when we spoke with him. I've got to be honest, I've known some pretty heavily tatted-up people over the years. It may be hard to picture now, but I'm a product of the punk music scene of the 80s. 😎 That's why when others pointed to this guy, I dismissed it as stereotyping. Then we saw the border photo and I instantly realized that they were right.
@@GrandAdventure Punk Rock Marc ... Has a nice ring to it!
That guy had quite a rap sheet. When reading about the Butlers, I saw a police shot showing his body art. His whole upper body was near solid ink. Somehow he must of spent thousands on that. He was definitely out there. After consistently seeing photos in the news of violent gang members inked from the top of their head on down it is not much of a leap to wonder about anyone you see like that. I am sure there are some folks like that which are fine but my guess is it is out of the norm. It raises red flags with me.
I am extremely glad you and Mrs GA are fine and I can see why that incident can cause you to stop and think.
I am back in Quartzsite right at the moment surrounded by safe Canadians! I was in Lake Havasu where I got a secure lockable generator box mounted to the back of the trailer for the Champion. It worked out well. No more lugging generators around. I get lazier every year.
@@bruceh3786 yup, we've been known to run our genny from the bed of the truck. LOL! Enjoy Quartzsite, Bruce!
Thanks for the video it’s good equipment good reminder and very much worth watching
Thank you Susan!
Great video, as always stay safe...
Thank you, Lonny, and you do the same!
Marc, Got the Litmor. Works great. Thank you. Rich G.
Great to hear Rich!
This is not a political answer, but this needs to be said.
I was born and raised in a border state, and as a former LEO, I can tell you that being armed at all times is a necessity.
The police won’t get there in time to save you, if you have a signal to call them at all. Ya the camera can provide evidence, but your possibly already injured or dead. I won’t allow my family to go through that.
Take it for what it is you do what you want.
We appreciate your viewpoint. We also don't necessarily disagree; we just prefer to keep our CCP status private.
@@GrandAdventure I understand that. I also Appreciate the video and your reply. Glad people can still have civilized conversations.
@@HoofPrintsDR So true.
Great, but sad post! Thanks for the update and the tips!
Indeed it is. Our hearts go out to the family of the Butlers.
I would have liked to understand the network connectivity necessary for these two cameras.
James, we've been able to use both of them both with Wi-Fi present and also on a local LAN. However, when over a local LAN you of course lose the cloud storage capability.
Thanks for the info. Is that camera connected via wifi or Bluetooth? I was wondering if there's no wifi signal how would that be connected?
Our pleasure. It uses Wi-Fi. You can create a Wi-Fi network with a USB-powered nano travel router even if you don't have an Internet source, but then you can only access the cameras locally.
Do you need wifi to run?
Or does it need it's own cell plan?
You need WiFi supplied locally or via your own router, or at least LAN to view locally.
Have you ever looked into Pepper Guns.....they can go where ever you go. Watch the TCP pepperball videos. Just saying incase your afraid of guns and you don't need a permit. I hope you don't mind I posted this to you.
Don't mind whatsoever. We have no adversity to real guns, either, we just don't feel like posting in a public forum whether or not we carry ourselves. Thanks for your suggestion!
If you are a good person ..Arm yourself !!!!! we need them to protect the herd .Cops are not the only source . Good people armed has always been the best way to go .................
Just so you know, we fully support a person's 2nd Amendment right to legally carry. Whether or not someone chooses to exercise that right is, as far as we're concerned, a personal decision beyond the scope of what we wanted to address in this video.
Does your security camera require blue tooth or any connection services?
It's a network camera, so yes it utilizes Wi-Fi. However, we use a nano travel router in the rig so it will provide visibility on a mobile device via Intranet, or remote access if there's an Internet connection available.
Wow... that's quite the story. I didn't remember that from earlier. Very unnerving to have been that close.
Gord
Gord, this is the first time on the channel that we've explained our proximity to those events.
@@GrandAdventure Thanks, Marc, for explaining that. I didn't think I would forget such an account. Nice to know I'm not losing my mind.
Gord
Humans worst threats have always been other humans! Noting has changed!
Awesome channel thank you
With awesome viewers, thank you!
Can you please tell us if you had the drawing for the Litmor Battery Camera and if so, who won? Thanks.
The drawing has just concluded, stay tuned for an announcement regarding the winner.
Cool, my camping security is the sound of round chambered
How to completely connect? Camera to ? Then cell phone.
To be honest, it's just a matter of following the instructions provided with the camera, and a little bit of networking. However, our preferred camera in this video is no longer available in the same form, and we have since switched over to Wyze.
Great info. I've been looking at cameras for the RV. I wish I could find one that is hard to steal. They should have a mechanism that you could connect a small cable and lock to secure it to the mount.
Excellent point. However, by the time someone were to take it a) you'd be aware that something was going on, thanks to the notification; and b) you'd have a terrific shot of the culprit on your phone.
@@GrandAdventure Very true. Happy Travels.
Grand Adventure I agree. But don’t you think you could have both? A terrific shot and a camera that it’s not so easy to steal.
@@BuckyBuck1000 absolutely.
The odds of being murdered are definitely much higher than being struck by lighting.
Still willing to take those chances, Todd.
That's a terrifying story! We bought these (Hiseeu) cameras when you first introduced them and we love them! We haven't taken them camping yet (just at home) but we are going to soon!
It was definitely unsettling, Lori. Glad that you're pleased with the Hiseeu camera as well, and yep -- camping season is right around the corner!
If you are out boondocking and you leave, how does your cameras hook up to the Internet to alert your phone?
We keep a cellular-powered network running at all times in our trailer, which we explain here: czcams.com/video/VrigHuE6igw/video.html
I bought two of the Hiseeu cameras. Thanks Marc.
Excellent, Rob! I think that you'll be very happy with those, as we're very pleased with ours.
Looks like a nice camera, But, Does it work and sent video to your phone in remote areas where there's No WiFi?
James, first off, 99% of the time we have Internet via our Visible phone/nano router setup that we explain in our Episode 117 czcams.com/video/VrigHuE6igw/video.html . A cell phone booster (either Episode 39 czcams.com/video/sRMMyiu1WIg/video.html or Episode 136 czcams.com/video/eX4OowkC6AE/video.html ) helps to provide signal when we're in fringe areas. As a result, it's been well over a year since we've camped without Internet, and our living situation requires that we have cell signal to be able to work from the RV. Even in incredibly remote areas we've had service, and we're very anxious for the launch of SpaceX's Starlink service later in 2020 which will provide worldwide satellite Internet, eliminating those few dead spots that we can't camp in now. Starlink promises simple setup, sufficient speed and reasonable cost. We'll see if they deliver on those promises, but I don't put anything past Elon Musk.
So we must confess that we haven't yet used either camera, the Hiseeu or the Litmor, without Internet. But in theory, even if we're outside of cell data range, both the camera and phone are networked together via the nano router that we shared in Episode 117 as part of our Internet solution. That network may have no Internet if we're outside cell service range, but they're still on the same LAN.
Mark...I wanted to share your video where you got stuck after it rained heavy. My son lives out your way and I thought he would enjoy it. I can't remember the title or date...can you help?
Hahaha! Sure thing: czcams.com/video/M1o_wqTSZIg/video.html
how do they work without wifi?
The ones that do not require an Internet connection can communicate with your mobile device over a LAN created by a nano router; however, as we always have Internet anywhere (thank you Starlink!) we've since converted over to Wyze Outdoor cameras czcams.com/video/LdsIkmuT3B8/video.html
So if you were to use only one of the cameras, which one would it be? The litmor has a weird mount and can't be mounted like an arlo with a universal mount.
Interesting question, Jaz. While the features are essentially the same, we'd have to give the nod to the Hiseeu with its low-profile magnetic mount. When the camera is off the mount, it's rather aerodynamic for driving. And that magnet is *strong*. We've actually forgotten to take it down once and drove a full tank of gas, before stopping to pump more and noticing the camera up there, still on the mount. It survived a couple of hours at 75 mph.
@@GrandAdventure thank you. I was leaning towards that one as well because of the magnetic mount. Thank you
@@yankeesusa1 anytime.
Thank you for the security video. I’m not sure that I understand how it works. You boondock in out of the way locations. How is the camera sending video to your phone without internet.
First off, 99% of the time we have Internet via our Visible phone/nano router setup that we explain in our Episode 117 czcams.com/video/VrigHuE6igw/video.html . A cell phone booster (either Episode 39 czcams.com/video/sRMMyiu1WIg/video.html or Episode 136 czcams.com/video/eX4OowkC6AE/video.html ) helps to provide signal when we're in fringe areas. As a result, it's been well over a year since we've camped without Internet, and our living situation requires that we have cell signal to be able to work from the RV. Even in incredibly remote areas we've had service, and we're very anxious for the launch of SpaceX's Starlink service later in 2020 which will provide worldwide satellite Internet, eliminating those few dead spots that we can't camp in now. Starlink promises simple setup, sufficient speed and reasonable cost. We'll see if they deliver on those promises, but I don't put anything past Elon Musk.
So we must confess that we haven't yet used either camera, the Hiseeu or the Litmor, without Internet. But in theory, even if we're outside of cell data range, both the camera and phone are networked together via the nano router that we shared in Episode 117 as part of our Internet solution. That network may have no Internet if we're outside cell service range, but they're still on the same LAN.
Another informative video! Thanks for sharing! I may miss y'all for a few weeks. Leaving the ATL! Moving this weekend!
We're going to miss you, Miss Tracy! Where are you headed?
@@GrandAdventure I am headed to SC!
We have a national park near by...Congaree.
@@TheTracystella safe travels, and we look forward to catching up once you get settled in.
@@GrandAdventure thank you Marc! I'm driving a U Haul myself...a 15 footer! I'm going to pretend it's an RV and make it my own Grand Adventure!
@@TheTracystella love it!!
Your need to do what works do yourself, my wife and I when we were young lived in a apartment next to a guy who turned out to be a serial killer. (Yes and he truly the nicest guy) so I don’t take chances any more and make sure we are safe at all times. He killed 4 women and one I beloved called 911 but they were to late, we may have gotten lucky.
Waaayyy too close to home, Austin!
YIKES ! So glad to know you and your family were never hurt.
@@scoop2591 thanks so much. It was a little too close for comfort. FYI we've made some changes to our camera setup that we'll explain in tomorrow night's new episode.
Thanks for the info
Our pleasure, Mike & MJ!
Best use a portable electric bear fence for camping.
Why do you say "down below"? What is the difference between down and below?
I'm a uk citizen and think if I lived and rv'd in America/canada I would consider the 2nd ammendment my god given right to a CCW. There's too many loons and downright nasty evil people lurking around nowadays even if it's no fault of their own because of mental health issues you can NEVER be too careful and mindful of your surroundings AND people watch always ! Being aware is the key to safety and if your spidey senses start tingling, move on 😉👍
I remember msgn you guys to be careful out there before finding out the Butlers were deceased. So scary and I didn’t know you talked to the guy! I am getting cameras and motion lights because of that situation ,you can never be too safe.
That's pretty much our perspective, Janina. And yes, we remember that messaging! It's disturbing, but not truly frightening to us as it was such a random event, we can't let it affect how we camp or the way we run our lives.
Exactly, but we must be extra keen, alert and precautionary.
Grand Adventure agreed its not stopping me just makes me more aware! I have always been safe but a refresher never hurts. And being Military I have been around the world. Danger can happen anywhere.
@@janina8559 so true. IMO you have a healthy perspective, be safe and have fun out there!
Excellent video as always. I feel very sorry for those people. Were now dealing with heavy population, so there's part of the problem. I will be getting a sprinter van eventually and you can bet it will have serious security measures. I also will have weapons . Years ago you go anywhere and be safe, no more.
I definitely respect your opinion, William, and you're a valued viewer. I'm not sure that I agree that things are worse now than before, though. Crime statistics just don't back that up. In today's information age, I think that we just hear about these things more. Think about it -- 20 or 30 years ago, the story of the Butlers would not have spread beyond the South Texas Coast and central New Hampshire.
There's always been bad guys in the world
Throw away the key for these two. Thanks for your info.
Here's a tip: if there's a guy with elaborate neck tattoos nearby, don't chat with him, leave the area.
When others mentioned the guy on the beach from Utah, I downplayed those comments as stereotyping. Turned out that they were right.
I agree. Spot on. Leave the areas asap.
Not political, all family safety…. Cops can’t be everywhere, period
True of course, Bill. However, we've discovered the hard way that some folks will interpret anything as controversial.
My security starts with a good dog. My next line is a shot gun and a Colt 1911 45. Don't forget to register the 45 when entering most States. I also have air horns that are commonly used on boats. In a confined space it will shock any intruder at over 120 dbs.
Everybody's got their own methods, and that dog is going to help give you some advance notice. Plus yep, that air horn will momentarily shock anyone! I think the point, and one which you obviously understand, is to be prepared in some way to handle a situation on your own instead of relying upon someone else to come to your rescue.
@@GrandAdventure I'm a 65 year old newbie. 3 years of planning. End of this year? Pray for ducks in a row.
@@jimc.6127 I can see those ducks lined up from here! 😉
omg!!!!
Yeah Bonnie, that one hit a little too close to home.
Glock 19 and my Rosary. The 1-2 punch.
I have a sign. My dog has a gun and refuses to take his medicine.
nice
Rats! Surge gaurds 30 and 50 amp no longer available on amazon.
Sonofagun, you're right. Thanks for letting us know, Chuck. Hopefully it's just a temporary stock issue as Southwire is still making both the 34830 and 34850 rvpower.southwire.com/products/surge-protection/ .
Marc, I know you covered this matter earlier. But is this new footage on your experience with these devices?
Gord
Yes, this is new footage, Gord. We're also going to share a new camera that we're using (and give one away), discuss the details of that Texas incident and why it left us a bit rattled, and explain what effect that's had on how we approach our camping.
@@GrandAdventure Very interesting, Marc. I look forward to it. Gord
@@GrandAdventure I totally understand how you're left a bit rattled. It's a real lousy aweful feeling from such a close encounter. I think crime is a real issue this country needs to address much more strictly ASAP.
Carrying a 25 auto,would have saved them.wow
Not necessarily. We don't yet know prosecutors' theory of how they were killed. If someone gets a jump on you, no weapon will necessarily do any good. For example, I could be carrying a bazooka around but that doesn't mean a sniper can't shoot me in the head.
I disagree Marc most criminals look for a weak opportunity in ones defense. This is not war where criminals are hiding in a snipers nest to take you out. Generally when criminals have a notion a person is armed and ready they will move on to the next weak link to bring harm. I like your cameras (this keeps you on the ready) and I also believe in being armed (to defend yourself and family). This is our American history to defend ourselves and our property. If you run from the idea of being armed then you are only setting yourself for dome and misery.
@@jefferygreene9722 I think you've stated your position well, but you're making some unsupported assumptions about my position on being armed. Just saying. 😉
Somebody's scared.
be armed if can.. get a dog for early warning!
There's NOTHING WRONG w/re-examining our beliefs and thoughts. This Butler's murders were horrid! And to be honest, its scared my family as we prepare to go on the road.
Don't let it do that. If you do, you're just another victim. Respect it, don't fear it. Carry on your lives as you would have otherwise; just let it make you more aware.
@@GrandAdventure Oh, we will! NOTHINGS STOPPING hubbs & I!
A lot of awfully negative world views showing up here. I’d suggest you all get outside, do some traveling, and find some good in this world because there’s still plenty of it despite what the TV might tell you.
Love it, Murray! So true. Well said.
I agree 100%… loots of goodness out there
Guns first, cameras second.
Very sorry you experienced such an event in Texas. It's absolutely unnecessary. So, your cameras will store the motion video in the cloud, accessible from wherever you have internet? Or recording stored only inside the cameras? I was telling my neighbor about our auto robbery attempt and she tells me in Mexico and other South American countries they kidnap Americans for ransom fairly often.
You can opt for a cloud storage service with either camera, for a fee. We did not avail ourselves of that service with either camera. However, even without cloud storage, clips are stored in two locations: in the camera, and on your phone when you get the notification. So there is secondary remote storage.
@@GrandAdventure Excellent! I'm using the Ring battery cameras with thin long charge cord into the house. With just one battery pack they seem to last more than a month. They hold 2. Other security camera services are way more than 10 dollars a month, so right now I'm ok with it, especially after actually seeing the 2 creeps in our driveway at 3am. Plus, if cameras stop working or get stolen Ring gives free new one at the 10$ per month rate. I'm just not sure right now about when camping how we're going to get wifi.
@@Hundert1 Excellent. Sounds like you've got those Ring cameras working for you, and that's terrific. If I were you, dealing with the issue in your driveway, I'd have my place secured like Fort Knox. ;)
As for Internet while camping, we use a cheap phone through Visible for uncapped, unthrottled, unlimited data for $25/month, along with a 5V DC USB-powered nano router. We explain all of that in this episode: czcams.com/video/VrigHuE6igw/video.html At the time that video was filmed Visible was $40/month, but you can now get it down to $25/month through their Party Pay program.
@@GrandAdventure hahaha Fort Knox ✔👍Thanks much Grand Adventure! I'm really not into pets, but I'm considering getting a silent non barking vicious attack dog and keeping it in the garage away from us so I can open the door from my remote while still in bed. I've never felt so violated and will never forget this incident. I opened my window and yelled GET OUTTA HERE. They took off, but I realized they could have been real crazy and shot me. I mean what is next? Will I awake and find strangers actually in my house? Or watch my front door being kicked down before my very eyes!
@@Hundert1 I understand your feeling of violation, and I'm sure that I'd feel the same way if I were in your shoes. However, as a dog lover myself, if I may implore you: please don't get a dog for that reason. It's really not fair to the dog. If you want a dog for the love and companionship that a dog and its owner share, that's wonderful! And you get the fringe benefit of an animal that puts the security of its "pack" above all other things. But getting a dog for security only, and keeping it locked up in the garage, only ensures that you'll have one miserable and psychologically scarred dog on your hands.
While I understand your reluctance to comment on arming yourself I don't understand how you could consider the Bill of Rights a political statement. The Bill of Rights are the first 10 Amendments to our constitution and the most basic freedoms and rights that we think of today in the United States. One could say that our constitution spells out our nonpolitical rights in relation to our government. However, you may want to view risk it is far greater per square mile or population density in the wild than in the center of New York City.
Shep, I don't disagree with anything you've stated above. That said, we go to great pains to avoid anything on the channel that could be deemed controversial, and whether right or wrong, the fact remains that some folks in this country deem gun rights to be a controversial subject. That's why we took the tack that we did.
It is a sad day when a country's constitution is considered controversial. @@GrandAdventure
@@shep5556 We completely agree on that.
BRW...your POINTS like cameras/motion detection etc....make PERFECT SENSE! I also want to say...Your camera work is PHENOMENAL! If u get a chance...I'd so APPRECIATE it if u could check out our channel and give us ANY CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK...u think might help improve our work. Unfortunately, all we have to work w/right now are our Samsung s50 phones.:(
Our apologies that we just found this comment for the first time. We'll definitely check you out, although we feel poorly qualified to provide constructive feedback. Before we even look, though, the best advice we can give is that every video needs to tell a story. That doesn't mean that your shots need to be planned or scripted. Rather, once you're done shooting an area, or a topic, go back through your clips and ask yourself, "What story do I want to tell?" Then arrange your timeline to tell that story -- from premise, through progress or execution, to conclusion. The channels we like to watch, the channels that we subscribe to ourselves, are very good at telling that story, and that's why we enjoy watching them.
@@GrandAdventure Thank u for that. That makes PERFECT sense!
"exercise your second amendment rights". I loved that one. True. You're a Trump supporter ! I can feel it.:-) Because Dems want to take away your 2a, Rep's. don't ! Cheers from Belgium. PS. Great video ! Very informative ! PS #2 : DieGoogleDie says : "if there's a guy with elaborate neck tattoos nearby, don't chat with him, leave the area." Also true ! I agree.
We won't tell. 🤫 Thanks Roger!
Hi Roger About 90% of all Americans, democrats and republicans, want common sense gun laws. Your right… reps won’t change laws because they are so bought by NRA that they won't represent their own constituents.
I don’t think the general public needs to own military type weapons, bump stocks or large capacity mags. I have owned pistols and shotguns for 40 yrs. I travel with my S&W 38. I am a democrat.
Beach bum I agree with you wholeheartedly. There’s a reason why civilians cannot own/procure “claymore mines”-Military M18 anti personnel mines to protect their rig when boondocking. Can you imagine someone placing M18,s around their campsite with trip wire triggered to stop intruders and lose pets. This same reason why I believe civilians do not need military style rapid fire assault weapons for their self defense.
Arm yourself
I going to tell you. I'm NOT politically correct. Im packing when driving my car and when I'm in my RV....
If you knew us in person, you'd realize that we, too, are as non-PC as they come. 😎 But just to share where we're coming from, we avoid anything political in GA as we really can't see much point in pissing off 50% of our potential audience. It's a conscious decision that we made way back at GA's inception. We figure, there are plenty of other places out there that people can vent their political frustration, rather than on an RV travel channel. And we fully support your choice to exercise your Second Amendment rights.
So you'er an infomercial for a useless security camera. The reason why it's useless is because it's improperly used, by everyone. The proper use of a security camera is as a force multiplier. Since you can only see what's in front of you, you need to see in areas not in front of you. You put up cameras. You have to watch the camera feed in real time so you can see the threat in real time, so the threat can be addressed in real time. Real time means as it's happening. If you have a recording of what happened, but you can't tell, who, did what. How many times have you seen a video of a crime, but can't see the criminals face? To prevent theft, I lock up my stuff when not using it. Because I refuse to be a victim. I have a dog. I carry a handgun with reload, knife, OC spray, & a handheld flashlight. I have a shotgun near by. I take my safety & the security of my property seriously. I thought about this before something bad happened. I don't take security advice from someone that only thinks about security after something bad happened.
Smart not to dive into the gun debate. I will say that unless you have the same killer instinct of the truly hardened criminal the hesitation to use deadly force could make having a gun a hazard. Just my opinion and why I don't arm myself.
As we said in the video, we believe that one's decision whether or not to carry is one of personal choice. And you've made yours.