P B Plumber Underfloor heating, slim board overlay system

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  • čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
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Komentáře • 83

  • @PBPlumber
    @PBPlumber  Před 3 lety

    Sorry about the poor quality the signal was awful here 😓

    • @atshahco2800
      @atshahco2800 Před rokem

      Hey mate, you located in notts? Do you do work in derby? I am looking to fit UFH in my property, will have to be retrofit.

    • @EliteHydronics.
      @EliteHydronics. Před 8 měsíci

      bloody awful.

  • @PoooShooo
    @PoooShooo Před 2 dny

    lovely living room decor

  • @davidreilly1031
    @davidreilly1031 Před 5 měsíci

    Guys this video reminded me of a job i was working on where this system had been installed on a similar floor but with a cellar below. Anyway I had additional work a few months later, so had to work in the cellar. The home owner was telling me how the builders had had to return to fully insulate the underside of the floor as the warmth from the underfloor heating had caused a massive humidity and damp problem in the cellar. Thermal dynamics means that heat will always move to cold, so as soon as the room is warm the heat will then try to warm the area below the boards. This place was a big old building and the room had a high ceiling. I would suggest when you fit one of these systems to a floorboards with a void below, that you price into the quote to remove enough of the boards to install pir rigid insulation between every floor joist. You might want to install a humidity sensor under a floor beforehand so you can monitor what effect the heating is having to the void climate. You could be creating the perfect conditions for rotting joists and boards.

  • @iancampbell582
    @iancampbell582 Před 3 lety +1

    Marcus is one chilled dude.I wish i could find a plumber with the same relaxed attitude local to me.To help with my work load.

    • @PBPlumber
      @PBPlumber  Před 3 lety

      He’s awesome 😎

    • @lazenbytim
      @lazenbytim Před 3 lety

      Where are you based? I'm in Bristol. Often have customers say to me how chilled I am. lol

  • @griffithsheating
    @griffithsheating Před 3 lety +9

    Virtually every ufh job I do the punter always ends up trying to use the system like rads. Hour in the morning couple of hours at night and then complain it never gets hot enough. They never listen when I tell them how to use the system...

  • @malachy1847
    @malachy1847 Před 3 lety

    Like that 45 Degree Press Elbow at the end of the video creating great pipe geometry for smooth flows, also regarding that radiant underfloor heating system bound to be Game changer in the likes of those Older homes or even second floor level in New building .. Great Upload...

  • @mattpointer8495
    @mattpointer8495 Před 3 lety +1

    Good lad! With the Yorkshire brew bags 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @raheatingservices652
    @raheatingservices652 Před 3 lety

    Nice video PB! Today a Glowworm boiler service, replaced a leaking TRV, fitted a full bore lever ball valve to a upstairs Tank. Rebalanced heating system! Bit quiet, but enjoyable day 👌🏻

  • @jimplimkin4026
    @jimplimkin4026 Před 3 lety +4

    There's a cat up hear! Never seen him yet. Lol he's probably in the floor under the boiler.

  • @samspry9452
    @samspry9452 Před 3 lety

    I agree with you on the nicer looking press fitting pb. They kinda look like old school Yorkshire's

  • @rockandmeatroll
    @rockandmeatroll Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks for showing a real word install :)

    • @PBPlumber
      @PBPlumber  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for watching 🙏🏽

  • @andrewmillwardwatford9410

    More high temperature ufh. You need to design for 55 flow now. At 55 fixed flow you will need to set your manual mixer to under 42c to prevent flow theft from the radiator circuit unless you fit hydraulic separation. If you use a modulating heating control you will need a variable ufh mixing valve.
    A good rule to remember is that with any modulation controls you will need to fit hydraulic separation.
    Low loss headers are one form of hydraulic separation. Three types are in common use. Close coupled tees, low loss headers and plate heat exchangers.
    Hydraulic separation is needed when the flow for the system is greater than the flow of the boiler and in theory this is always the case if fitting ufh.
    Other reasons for using hydraulic separation are:
    1. Boiler flow is greater than system flow.
    2. The residual pump head of the boiler is lower than required for the index circuit of the system.
    3. Total protection from an old contaminated system is required ( plate)
    4. Extra volume is required to reduce cycling ( volumiser and boilers with poor modulation fitted to ufh )
    5. Multiple heat sources being used.
    Each time I see a manifold with a high temperature fixed mixer I know the system will have issues. Not always noticeable but the design fault is already there.
    For good design tips join the face book group for low temperature underfloor heating design and the sister group central heating design.

  • @goodjoeblack5232
    @goodjoeblack5232 Před 6 měsíci

    Hi P B Plumber. How much do you charge per square meter to supply and install underfloor heating. Thanks

  • @kornelk.9417
    @kornelk.9417 Před 3 lety

    Bang on job.. seems MLCP is the way now.. very good.. TH is good like emmeti more regular that K1 tiger Wavin which is a pain but amazing the whistle features if you not press then is whistle but is U profile.

  • @moulesanctuary
    @moulesanctuary Před 3 lety

    Another informative video .. love the press fitting part

  • @aro-rat
    @aro-rat Před rokem

    Excellent video thanks.
    How will the owner feed new pipes in the future for hallway, toilet etc?

  • @ModelGen
    @ModelGen Před 3 lety +1

    just so you know most plastic pipe nowadays are barriered but most pex/ pert/pb pipe use a barrier which are not 100% proof but near as called EVOH. To have non-barrier pipe would be horrendous. But nice video. Also, how do you get on with the boards as not have a conductive surface in the groove so you find the output is reduced?

  • @corbs07
    @corbs07 Před 3 lety +1

    Couple of Qs
    What’s the reason of using non barrier the system going to end up like the first gen hep full of muc ?
    Also sparkies moving the sockets higher ? They might need access under the floor :D

  • @petersmart1999
    @petersmart1999 Před 3 lety +1

    Good morning Petey,missed the live stream, awsome video though! Keep up the good work brother!

    • @PBPlumber
      @PBPlumber  Před 3 lety

      Thanks mihtu 🤜🏽🤛🏽

  • @robsmith1234
    @robsmith1234 Před 3 lety +1

    What is the make of the overlay system?
    Also, what are the fixings to the floor? Is it fixing into floor screed?

  • @gunsey876
    @gunsey876 Před 3 lety +1

    What mlcp do you use and what make is the uf system, nice work

  • @HeathenGeek
    @HeathenGeek Před rokem

    sooo. . . with the wiring for the manifold, would you ever use / have to use a high limit stat on the incoming that would switch the pump off if it went over temp?
    I'm looking some designs just now and most don't have them, though one I'm supposed to wire up has one on it, so like. . just wondering

  • @davidbennett3107
    @davidbennett3107 Před rokem

    Hi PB I'm doing big kitchen dinner media wall refit and considering dropping my ceiling 50 mm and and putting 30mm kingspan in them board over .
    I'm putting underfloor heating in and in my mind thinking this will be expensive but more efficient in the future with less heat loss .
    Any thoughts on this would be must appreciated 👍

  • @TheNorthernmunky
    @TheNorthernmunky Před 3 lety +1

    Can this be tiled on top of? Is there another layer on top or do you carpet on to this?

  • @mattr4135
    @mattr4135 Před 3 lety +1

    What’s the deal with the uf pipe being non barrier????

  • @patricklynch2731
    @patricklynch2731 Před 3 lety

    Hi PB. Q? The boards ye put down for the pipe roots look very helpful. But would them be worth investing in if a builder was doing 50 or more housing estate. Also if you have hot heating water running away from the manifold through a 100M pipe won't the floor furthest away from the manifold be cloder than closer to the manifold leaving uneven heating in the room?
    Thanks 👍

  • @davidb2464
    @davidb2464 Před 3 lety

    Hi Pete, next day, just wondering if you have done this live, or are you going to edit a new vid on this, really good insight into this type of process???

  • @izalman
    @izalman Před 2 lety

    I'm just an old school confident retired engineer /DIYer use yorkies and the odd brass compression fitting. No way I could justify buying the Rems kit, just curious how much (approx) the box and contents (press and all the varous dies) set you back. That said I've over £7k of mechanics hand tools /testers in my garage..

  • @98067100
    @98067100 Před 3 lety

    I don't do any under floor but come across it, how are you not using some barrier pipe. It it's non barrier then there its semi permiable without a membrane like barrier and the system just airates over time just like standard non barrier or as its uf pipe like this red stuff is it a different type??

  • @neilcascarino7908
    @neilcascarino7908 Před rokem

    Where did you get the tea box from with kettle pots etc

  • @robertgreenaway5166
    @robertgreenaway5166 Před 3 lety

    What’s your opinion on having a zone valve on UFH? We’re never told to put them on.

  • @andrewoleary9704
    @andrewoleary9704 Před rokem

    Are you wearing spurs or got the full tactical belt kit on ??? 😂

  • @khatpatsingh123
    @khatpatsingh123 Před 2 lety

    Does the gaps need to be sealed on the joist and the boards ? Which brand boards are these

  • @rockandmeatroll
    @rockandmeatroll Před 3 lety +2

    What fuel is the boiler? what else does it supply in the house?

    • @PBPlumber
      @PBPlumber  Před 3 lety +1

      Gas combi so hot water and radiators

  • @Han-es8qu
    @Han-es8qu Před 3 lety +4

    Without the insulation under the boards, the heat loss into the under the floor cavity will be too high and efficiency will suffer tremendously.!!!!

  • @beexpressplumbing
    @beexpressplumbing Před 3 lety

    What made u fit that particular ufh system. What make is it?

  • @Gary-n
    @Gary-n Před 3 lety

    Thanks PB - perhaps a basic question here but wondering why the previous plumber put the magnacleanse on flow rather than return?

    • @gdr88
      @gdr88 Před 8 měsíci

      because he was lazy

  • @kirkmurray9675
    @kirkmurray9675 Před 3 lety

    Both good Pressfit machines until you try and buy a REMS battery!!! The miluakee ones for the Geberit are an eighth of the price.

  • @copperskills3973
    @copperskills3973 Před 3 lety +1

    No low loss header?

  • @Ben-wb8ki
    @Ben-wb8ki Před 3 lety +1

    Who did you go to or know to source this underfloor system? I know there's alot out there..

    • @PBPlumber
      @PBPlumber  Před 3 lety +1

      Marcus sourced it from Beneath Heat

  • @davidbryce1412
    @davidbryce1412 Před 3 lety

    Mate in your honest opinion what is the best press tool?

  • @SuperWayneyb
    @SuperWayneyb Před 3 lety +2

    I accidentally ordered 12 tape measures instead of 2 from Amazon 😳🤘😂🤘

  • @davidgraham22
    @davidgraham22 Před 3 lety

    What was the blue thing on the boiler

  • @johnhanson6155
    @johnhanson6155 Před 3 lety +1

    Does red pipe get clipped in or does it just push in 👍

    • @PBPlumber
      @PBPlumber  Před 3 lety

      Just pushed in and the floor channel grabs it

  • @kevinisaac9139
    @kevinisaac9139 Před 3 lety

    How do you fix the pipe to the floor

  • @seanmcalister6367
    @seanmcalister6367 Před 3 lety +1

    What kind of floor they puting on top of ufh pipework?

    • @PBPlumber
      @PBPlumber  Před 3 lety

      A wooden floor I believe

    • @seanmcalister6367
      @seanmcalister6367 Před 3 lety

      @@PBPlumber gunna end up higher level than other rooms surely? Oh well handy for you guys 👌

  • @samlowe6814
    @samlowe6814 Před 3 lety

    Ahh I missed the live 😩

  • @edc1569
    @edc1569 Před 3 lety

    Not sure streaming live makes much sense!?

  • @Si_H
    @Si_H Před 3 lety +1

    Must £1000 just in tongs 😳😳😁

  • @MrMadSue
    @MrMadSue Před 3 lety +1

    What’s the best temp to set underfloor heating

    • @MrMadSue
      @MrMadSue Před 3 lety

      Phil

    • @johnward5006
      @johnward5006 Před 3 lety +1

      Flow temp. 45c -55c.
      27-28C for engineered timber flooring.
      Solid timber whole different ball game!
      Air source great for UHF, about 45C.
      If you want to store DHW at reccommend 60C, 365; forget it.
      COP'S ( coefficient of performance)
      The higher the ambient temperature the higher the COP, the lower the ambient temp. the lower the COP.
      So best case COP of 3-1 looks a no brainer!!!
      Even at 3-1 COP, to achieve 3kw for 1kw input at let's say 1KWH is 14pence and NG is 4pence , you do the maths!
      Derek Robins at Tomkat has done a brilliant video on renewable, subscribe he is the business!!!
      UHF like all heating systems, barrier pipe only.

  • @davidb2464
    @davidb2464 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi Pete, my aim is to move into renewables in the long term, but this system looks great as a retro-fit for things like air pumps. What is the heat loss like through the floor boards. What a system. BTW, are the insulated boards easy to get, I live in Timbuctoo, oop's I mean N'Ireland (I think deliveries to Timbuctoo are easier than getting them here), and the system looks quite easy to fit, how did you find it????

    • @iancampbell582
      @iancampbell582 Před 3 lety

      David try Polypipe in Ballyclare.

    • @davidb2464
      @davidb2464 Před 3 lety

      @@iancampbell582 Hi Ian, I'm in Newtownabbey, do you do UFH, if so, maybe I could give you some labour to get a few tips??

  • @pauls826
    @pauls826 Před 3 lety

    That flooring your putting down is like 20mm what’s going on top floor will be well high I’d of subfloored it that’s just me though also how come you put the zone valve close to the manifold I like to fit them next to each other in boiler cupboard not knocking your work it’s neat and good workmanship suppose everyone’s different

  • @timkelly633
    @timkelly633 Před 3 lety

    Why are you adding another bypass? The one in the boiler doesn't care how many zones you've got does it?

  • @MM2009
    @MM2009 Před 2 lety

    you put any decent insulation under the floor planks or its ambient temp just beneath 🤣🤣🤣

  • @yashven-8844
    @yashven-8844 Před rokem

    Hello sir can you have work I need pulmbing work

  • @afzulali7695
    @afzulali7695 Před 3 lety

    Just a update the quality of the video is very low not has Sharp has before

  • @jeanmarciempaszak9972

    Le plancher chauffant est hors du temps maintenant, il y a nettement mieux à présent.

  • @joemurgatroyd333
    @joemurgatroyd333 Před 3 lety

    anyone else seeing low quality

    • @PBPlumber
      @PBPlumber  Před 3 lety +2

      With the standard of our work or the filming? 😅
      The signal is shocking here

    • @PBPlumber
      @PBPlumber  Před 3 lety

      With the standard of our work or the filming? 😅
      The signal is shocking here

    • @joemurgatroyd333
      @joemurgatroyd333 Před 3 lety

      Hahah just picture quality. The works always top standard 👍

    • @stupot_64
      @stupot_64 Před 3 lety +1

      @@joemurgatroyd333 I saw top quality potato vision.

  • @maxnavsa4470
    @maxnavsa4470 Před 3 lety

    I'd rather you upload a video then film a live stream. Really interesting video but unwatchable

  • @ShahedAhmed-er4ih
    @ShahedAhmed-er4ih Před 3 lety

    What make is the UFH material?