Can I Teach an Old Truck a New Trick With Modern FOX Shocks? | Chargezilla vs Andre's Pit!
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#electric #chargezilla #project - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Andre: The interior is a little loud!
Fox guy: What?
Andre: What?
I know!! 😂😂. I am someone who doesn’t generally retain patina. As I saw them putting the box back 9n the frame in the rehash at the beginning, I was saying,, nooooo, finish it, spray the front of t(e box and at least the back of the cab so they don’t have to come off again,,,,,, hahaha. If it was me, the bodywork would be perfect at the same time. They had the pieces off so it would have been easy to do. I’m not complaining though. This is THEIR build and THEIR budget. I am just here for the ride!!
This is a Great Series. I don't watch a lot of long videos but everything about this truck is interesting, the old things and the new. Thanks for providing so much information about it and the process that got it to this point. I can't even imagine what all you had to organize from everyone to make this happen. Great Video
You are most welcome. Thank you for watching!
@@TFLEV This is next level !!!
That fox guy who has probably driven everything was pure smiles driving that. Bet a new raptor wont even get that reaction from him
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'll take a raptor you can keep your electric clown cars
@@B86432 sounds like a plan 👍
@@B86432you’ll eventually reach an age where the shiny new stuff doesn’t make you smile as much as the old stuff.
Back in the day the fenders and beds were tough and the frames were weak. Back in the day the steering column was strong and would stab you through the chest while the lack of head rests would allow your noggin to crush itself though the back window. Everything in life is a trade off!
A lot of the ride issues are related to stiff springs, heavy tires and a very supple frame… you can see the frame moving around a lot. A stiffened chassis with some bracing would help with wheel control.
Go to Alcan spring in grand junction and get custom springs for that rig.
Those springs are shot and you guys should try to replace them, probably with some lighter duty with a little more of a lift.
At 11:48 if you slow down the play back speed you can see with that little drop the bump stop slams into the frame (its already too close because the springs are tired and lost any arc they had). You can also see that this has happened so much that its bending the frame.
Spot on, I was going to say the same thing. It's a waste of time spending time and resources on multi-thousand dollar dampers and tuning if the base set up is not correct. Parabolic leaf springs would do wonders for this truck, then have the Fox guys tune the dampers correctly. I get these guys are having a ball with all their projects, but I find that so much of what they do is in the wrong order....
Agreed. I mentioned something similar.
The same thing happened on my dad's '94 F150. When I got the truck I replaced the springs and it made the truck feel like a new vehicle. To me anyway 🙂
@@davemeise2192 - that’s your primary source of feedback when contacting the road!! New suspension and bushings tighten up the drive on any vehicle to feel like new!! Glad it was a positive result for ya!!
I agree, to put all the energy into the shocks it's seems crazy not to do something with the springs!
Thanks, Andre! Looking forward to more Chargezilla updates.
Love this series. Andrey is so great to watch and the conversion is beautiful! Thank you for showing an EV path for these classics.
Where is David?? Haven’t seen him a a vid for a while. Hope all is good. Ahhhh now I see him in the sneak peek at the end!! Hurrah!
Thank you for watching. David is all good. David will be in the next Chargezilla video and many more.
@@TFLEV - I think it was mentioned that he will be building out the interior on the Ram 2500 camper!! Can’t wait for that either!! You fellas have found some great ways to fill in while waiting for new products to come available in the automotive world!! It’s definitely been fun this season!
Well done Andre! What a fantastic video of how a shock operates and how the factory tunes them. Plus we get to see that famous off road test course and your awesome driving skills. ❤
You guys definitely need to add lockers to both differentials and test the whole course.
I had no idea you guys were doing this this is the first time I've seen it, this is probably the coolest thing I know of on CZcams holy cow this is incredible
The E100 is the most interesting series you guys have done. I know no one wants to hear it, but this is the future of hot rodding.
Never thought I’d say it but Andre is the second best presenter on TFL, second only to Tommy. Love seeing Andres videos
Great series. Love the deep dive. I'm guessing that the test drives in this vid were to gather the data for a new set of Fox shocks. Looking forward to seeing the after mods video.
The test drives in this video were to tune the current shocks on the truck.
I like the old E100,, a lot!! Watching the setup underneath, the leaf springs there are pretty much done!! They could use a re-arching to get them back to where the suspension is not into the bump stops when empty. The frame is actually bent where the bump stops hit from the past and as such there’s even that much more suspension travel that has been lost. It will give the old truck about 2.5 - 3” more height, but it can handle that even with the tires it has on it. Might give it a better stance overall. It’s a little low in the rear. If doing the rears, TFL, you really need to tackle the fronts as well. No need to purchase new springs if there’s a local place that does the re-arching. Where I live, we have been using the same shop (3 different owners) for decades. They do great work. We are in Canada unfortunately!! 😂😂.
Looking great!! Not sure if you still have the truck, or access to it, but the springs really are tired. I am suggesting a cheaper alternative to full replacement for ya. The budget is always a factor!!!
Andrey on the logs had me laughing so hard!!! 😂😂😂 He’s hilarious!!
Important to mention that the spring holds the weight while the shock controls how fast the spring bounces in both directions. Spring reacts to force(weight) while shock reacts to velocity, or the speed of the bump. High-speed means sharp bump frequency like washboard and potholes. Low speed means widely-spaced rolling hills and jumps.
Great truck and great video series!
14:47. Rippin..Rippn!!!! Yeah!!! Awesome burn out!! Right on Andrey!!! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Five star show Andrey!!! Enjoy the day!!
Burn out!
@@TFLEVThanks TFL!! You guys are Awesome
It's a 1:1 scale RC offroad 😅... fun vid
Oh Wow! such a cool build! I am building a 65 F250 4x4 myself! Cheers!
That truck is sweet! Very capable seems like.
Love this ...great stuff!!!
I have been waiting so long for this video!
Those shocks are crazy
You should travel long trip with this truck but have a generator on it for extended range and see how far you can get with the fuel compared if the fuel was used to move the vehicle.
It needs a bit of undercarriage protection if you want to get really fun off-road but I still like it a lot
How is progress with the shield build inside?
My 89 sidekick engine is on its last leg. Would love to do an EV conversion, but I worry it would be too small for a battery unless I pull out the back seat
How they any plans soon like for David and help to work on the courses. 2.0 upgrades.
Put low range in it, take it to Moab, and challenge the Hummer EV. That would be interesting!!
Heck yea!
Andrea you are the best you were born for this shit 👍
Thank you. Much appreciated.
Nice
I had a 77 orange Ford half ton with straight six, one truck I wish I never would've sold...
The treck bed looks like it got put on crooked and it's driving me crazy
Love this series
I would love to turn my 1998 GMC 2500 extended cab 8ft bed into a E2500.😎👍👍
Great series!
Thank you for watching.
What's going on with the bed seems it is not installed correctly
It's the new trend called the Colorado slip! JK 😂
This is an old truck from 1965. The frame is twisting a bit.
Chargezilla😂
That's what you your loaf of bread van needs Andre shocks and it will 4x4 better 😉
Heck yea!
Why didn’t you use Ford EV motors for this truck?
It’s a perfect application for those motors
Because those motors were not available to us. This is a LegacyEV kit.
Way to save an old truck and make it usable again!
If only every time you buy fox shocks the people come from fox to tune them
That truck is so cool that it is almost a crime not to re-paint and cherry it out, come on!
Natural patina shows its character and history!
@@marcbee1234 Call it what you want but that truck cherried out would be the ultimate!
Is it ok for the rear end to twist like that with torque?
It's OK if it doesn't explode!
@@TFLEV We shall see 🤣😭
In the vertical plane, I mean.
Yeah, the shocks won't bottom out as the bump stops (which are like 2 inches from the frame) will hit first.
Why not fix that for a little more travel?
So true. They may not be fully aware of it until now. I have made a suggestion, as well as yourself and many others. You make a lot of sense as there’s just only so much travel left in those tired old springs and it’s no where near what the shocks themselves have left. Whatever they do will create some lift, 2.5 - 3”, but even with that the tires are large enough. The bump stops have hit hard enough to bend the frame where they are hitting,,, !!! 😂😂. That’s some weight!! Heh heh.
Love the idea of this series but guys all that exposed high voltage bussing and fuses is not fitting of a professional build that's just dangerous.
Looks like the body isn't bolted tight to the frame when Andre went over the logs or they didn't replace the body mount's. Really don't look like a quality build.
I wouldn't really call it a build at this point sounds like they are probably getting this stuff done for free or next to free.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You guys need to partner with a mini reactor development company and forever power that thing so you can actually keep it going in cold weather. 🥶
Tesla Batteries aka: Panasonic batteries.
HAVE A BEAUTIFUL SUNDAY EVERYONE ✌️
For $40K you could just about restore that truck with a nice V8 upgrade.
The guys who built this are completely chumps. Low pinion front axle with closed knuckles and drums. On a truck that makes that much power. Should of put modern leaves with shackles in it.
how do u guys not wear kidney belts to support ur backs with all the off roading that you do? save ur backs.
1st of all I want to say I love this channel it's my favorite, I think all you guys do a hell of a job bringing us great content & testing, with that being said I'm disappointed. In my opinion y'all ruined a nice old classic truck, I would love to have it just so I could take all that electric stuff out & put a 300 back in the way it's suppose to be, but that's just me.
Again love the channel, I look forward to watching all of your episodes.
Lol
Thank you for the feedback!
Rather see a 500hp 5.0 Coyote in that truck that burns ⛽️
"needs lower gear capability" Before you turned it into an EV it had a granny 1st gear that gave it that. Guess this was not a good change after all.
I think they were waiting for the transfer case with low range, I thought it was just out of stock or something at the time of the build. Will be way more versatile with that hi/low range. Although I think it would have been cooler if they kept the manual transmission in it. Would only have to use the clutch to change gears in motion, but not starting and stopping.
You lost me at converted to electric.
no thanks ... waste of time
Yes, your comment was a waste of time. They've already made the conversion.
I don't give a flying f••k
@@kennethjinkins8967 then why keep responding?
Elon Musk has bought GM for $65billion. Big changes for GM coming.
Funny. He can't afford to keep his current companies running without selling Tesla stock.