@@platinumraven118 I mean, under the same logic neither did the video, which i think is the core of the criticism. I think it would be fair to say the chilling is the important part.
@@ijudgeyou9598 Sorbet gets mixed with air, the essence could be trapped in that from the spinning. Not able to reconnect to the ghost because it is trapped in the aura of the holy water. Not to mention the ghosts made enough contact to freeze the liquid itself, not just the jar.
@@platinumraven118But that would mean that a ghost going through you is equivalent to being R worded, it's just not that deep. Passing something through fire will heat it up from the outside in but you'd be wrong to say the fire was inside the thing.
they use tools though. so still questionable (plus demihuman is a social concept anyway, like oni aren’t human but they are not demihuman either because people from the east don’t have the term)
@@user-kg9df7yj4l The creation and use of tools isn't an indication of humanity because real animals in the wild (including species of mammals, birds, fishes, insects, cephalopods) have been observed making and using tools to hunt, groom, fight, communicate etc. Also "demi-human" isn't a social concept in Dungeon Meshi, it's a biological reality ! Demi-humans are cross races between a human race and an animal one and so far all confirmed demi-humans have been mammalian (which isn't the case for Merman / Fishmen). And Ogres (aka Oni) are biologically humans like Elves and Dwarves are, it's only Tall-Men who don't consider them human (probably due to racism and supremacist ideology).
@@moorhsum9755 i mean, we know that at least on the island demihumans are counted as such if they have a different number of bones from humans, not specifically because of animal traits, its kinda of an arbitrary distinguisher that onis just so happen to not have. what really separates a fishman from a cobolt? a mammal mermaid from orcs? i dont think we have that much information to say whether they have their own languages and cultures and such. (i think its also pretty much established in-cannon that everyone in the cast has some concerning views on race, so it makes sense for them to not know) so still pretty iffy to eat in a world where there are potential sentient animals i would not eat a dolphin even if they May not be People
@@user-kg9df7yj4l If you can't eat sentient animals you should probably be vegan because all vertebrate species are sentient and that represents the majority of what we eat. If you meant "sapient", then sure, it's probably better to not eat that...but how does that relate to the topic of Fishmen ? Fishmen did not show proof of sapience. None of the monsters eaten by the group did. The topic was also never about the ethics of eating sapient animals - the only concern raised in the video is about the possibility that eating Fishmen = Cannibalism which would mean they are related to humans. We could debate more about whether there are real differences between demi-human races and human races but that won't answer the question of what Fishmen are. If we come to your answer, which is that "demi-human" is a social construct, it won't suddenly mean Fishmen are also related to humans, it will only makes us question how the previously recognized demi-human races should be categorized. So let's focus more on why Fishmen can't be related to humans rather than what a demi-human is. Let's analyze human and demi-human races and then compare them to the Fishmen. We can't only look at what the character say, we have to consider how Ryoko Kui designed each races. Human races include : Tall Men, Elves, Dwarves, Gnomes, Half-Foot and Ogres / Oni. They all have the same number of bones, limbs, organs, etc. The functioning of their biology is also very minimally differenciated. They can seemingly reproduce with each other, though there is concern over the fertility of mixed offsprings (however they're so rare and their growth is so unpredictable that it's impossible to verify if that's actually true). Frankly, we don't have to spend a lot of time here, they're humans, they're all mostly the same with a few tiny differences here and there. Officially recognized Demi-Humans includes : Orcs, Kobolds, Mermaids and Beast Men. They all share distinctive traits : humanoid bodies with mild biological differences (different number of bones, additional / lesser number of limbs), presence of animal traits (porcine, canine, feline, fish etc), mammalian reproduction and capacity (somewhat) for speech. All except the Mermaids have proven to be sapient. Fishmen obviously do not fit the requirements to be recognized as a human race (biology is completely different) but they also don't fit with the patterns established by the recognized demi-humans : they aren't mammalian and they don't have capacity for speech (complete lack of vocal cords). Of course, unless Ryoko Kui says it herself, we won't know a 100% what each races are but all of the evidence (including Laios' words) points towards Fishmen not being humain.
@@moorhsum9755 i think we may be arguing past each other. 1) this was never really about wether something was cannibalism or not? 2)my argument on demihumans IS shaky, but also i dont think the whole limbs and being mammalian thing is ever brought up in cannon, other than laios using it to argue that demihumans a very far removed biologically from humans (which i'm not arguing against, those very much are fish with thumbs) 3) all that i was saying is that its dubious to eat fishmen, like, ethically? we will probably not agree on this one, cause its kinda a matter of interpretation and personal opinion i really would rather not get stuck on semantics all day, have a nice :)
Two points regarding the parasitic worm: - The reason why Laios got the parasite is because he ate it raw, which is the last thing anyone can do with harvested meat. No one touched it until it was actually cooked, which is the best way to eradicate any parasitic larvae that might still be in the meat. - The taste would probably be like eel, since the cooking method is based on Unagi, which is a dish of grilled eel covered and broiled in tare sauce.
Also he got the parasite that live inside the parasite not the parasite itself. So the parasite(big) is more of an ambushed predators. Also yes irl parasite do have their own parasite
Fruit gushers wouldn't exist if we didn't all secretely want to eat gems! And I have a pretty bad case of insectophobia so that says something as to how tasty gems look
HONESTLY!! i used to get those flavored bug snacks as a kid whenever i went camping cause the camp ground stores always had them and the treasure bugs seemed like that but like. shiny
It may be my autism speaking, but anyone who loves to eat lobster and crab while calling the consumption of insects disgusting confuses me. Like… people worldwide eat them. And cook them in ways that are absolutely delicious!
Since the jewel bug crown was a hive full of eggs that needed to be scooped out, I think you can actually get the same taste and texture from honeycomb! This explains why the jewel bugs were part of the sorbet making process - jewel bug hives are sweet!
Cant wait to see people making their own versions of these meals! I saw one person make a look-alike of the sorbet with gem candies and it looked soooo mouth-watering.
I have to disagree with a lot of your assessments, first of all, mandrake appears to be similar to gobō/edible burdock, which means that the vegetable kakiage would be more akin to diner style hashbrowns with other vegetables mixed in. Secondly, the living armour would be more similar to mussels or oysters than calamari. Thirdly, as some other people have pointed out, the sorbet was just chilled by the ghost and didnt include any ghost essence. Lastly, while I do agree with your assessment on the parasitic worm, I'm surprised you didn't mention how it's supposed to be similar to Japanese grilled eel/kabayaki, since that would make its real world counterpart much more appealing.
Plus, the issue of them being spirits of humans IS brought up later in the series. It was chilled by them, which means there is potentially ghost in them.
i would argue with the assertion that mimic isn’t filling. visually it resembles hermit crab and crab is straight up mostly protein. that stuff fills you up Fast, three to four crab legs would probably be enough even if you spent a lot of energy, and those mimic legs look Huge
I'm SO glad you addressed how mouthwatering Senshi's bread looked. Every time my friends and I watch this show, we wish it was real. It looks like milk bread, too, so it's probably EXTRA soft and fluffy!
Apparently frog legs do actually taste a lot like chicken. Never had it myself so I can't confirm, but they're fairly common in the swampy bits of the southern US. (have had gator though, which does taste a lot like chicken! Just ever so slightly fishy with the texture of very dark meat chicken)
In Singapore, Frog Leg Porridge is pretty common! You're right to say it tastes a lot like chicken. It's like you've shrunken Chicken Drumlets into mini-sized versions of it. I used to be disgusted by the idea until my dad encouraged me to try it. Much to my surprise, now I just think of it as another version of chicken porridge :>
Can confirm the chicken-like quality of frog legs. It’s definitely a different texture but the flavor is similar. I’d say they’re more rubbery than chicken, or just chewier? Very tasty though. Loved eating them as a kid.
Dragon steak would probably taste bad, especially considering the way it was killed and how mature it was…thats some really tough, gamey, stress hormone filled meat right there. :/ It may be very nutritious though, and it’s enough meat to feed a whole town for months. It would probably be really good in a pot roast!
@@dartoney you know what, i have had gator, but I didn't even consider the fact it's lizard meat. The red, tough meat on the show is nothing like any gator I've eaten. That being said, maybe dragon is good fried? (as a southener what isnt)
@@steampunk-llama yah that's what I'm thinking! it looks way too tough on the show. and if i remember right they said the flavor was lackluster too, so maybe some heavy seasonings or a marinade--mmm maybe teriyaki dragon steak?
@@cryxtheace3129 Ooo yeah teriyaki would work really well, esp with some ginger/garlic/chilli added in to give it that extra oomph >:3c I could even see a curry working out too, since the spices used in many of them should help bring out the natural dragon flavour, along with it being an easy bulk meal to help feed multiple people!! I do have to wonder if perhaps using an adolescent would give it a texture closer to other reptiles? Particularly I can see it being at least adjacent to crocodile or alligator in the right conditions to keep it relatively tender, though I also wouldn’t be surprised if it is just naturally tough and gamey given it’s from a massive land based predator. Much to think about 🤔
The parasitic worms look like eel meat are cooked like how the Japanese prepare eel (unagi). A fantasy version of unagi without the bones is worth any danger.
Im pretty certain that parasite was supposed to be some kind of lamprey. Lampreys lack a ribcage and only have a skull and spine. Irl there are parasitic lampreys but they latch onto their hosts from the outside, there isnt any internal lamprey species to my knowledge.
I feel like with the Undine stew with tentacles, the tentacles would have cooked down, creating a whole different flavor profile than if it was eaten raw. Sorta like if you cook garlic, it enhances the flavor of garlic but dies down the bitter taste to it compared to haven eaten it raw.
Should've said you were a picky eater in the beginning. Its obvious based on what you've rated each dish and you're commentary on what makes a dish good. Also, the parasitic worm was suppose to be similar to eel. Eel is my favorite meat and taste exactly how the parasite was described, can't believe it was in D tier.
I can imagine the treasure bugs taste a lot like crawdads and the creamy parts would have the texture of lobster roe. They'd probably taste really good steamed or boiled and with some butter.
Speaking from personal experience frog tastes a lot better than chicken and has a very different texture. So if giant frogs tastes like there smaller counterparts I'd say that it's a 10/10.
Some insight: 1) fruit tart is actually more like a quiche than a pizza 2) mandrake kikiage is extremely similar to indian pakora, which you’re right can be finicky to cook but is amazing done well 3) parasite mirrors eel meat here
@@zanthe_ Welp! Guess I’m gonna have to give it a try after all… It took so much work to get it out of my tumblr feed but looks like it’s gonna come right back real soon lol
Myyyyy goodness! Never in my life have I ever wanted to eat a snacky meal this colourful. Just, look at those treasure bugs! I like bugs, and the fact that those ones are actually edible makes me really want to eat them. I’m sooo going for the treasure bug meals including the sorbet (though it very much resembles colourful ice-cream that looks like that a lot of flavours are packed into it, complete with jewellery that, when placed with the sorbet, looks very much like candy in the shape of jewellery). Besides that, I would really eat a feast of kelpie meat which I think it would be better with a side of fresh bread. This is a really good video on looking at the Dungeon’s meshi and I certainly can’t wait to see part two. I love the anime too!
3:55 I’d say the fruit tart seems to resemble more of a quiche, a sort of savoury custard tart. Presumably it’s simply referred to as “fruit tart” because “quiche” doesn’t translate well to Japanese and back.
Personally imagined the mandrake as being somewhat starchy like a potato, just with a more herbal bitterness to it, so tbh the kakiage gave me the impression of a potato pancake 🤤 IDK what bat tastes like, but the giant bats don't resemble insectivorous bats, but fruit bats. The floor they live on also has an ample amount fruit from carnivorous plants, so I'm guessing it could taste similar to fruit bats irl.
The Treasure Bugsnax, Sorbet, Glazed Parasitic Worm, grilled Kelpie, Tentacle Pasta, Cutlets and the Red Dragon Full Course Meal needs to be in my MOUTH
The scorpion hot pot looks appealing. It is the first dish to start the series with easy to find ingredients. It doesn't much complex like other dish. Just simple yet delicious. It should be in the S tier instead
I mean, the parasite shouldn't be more questionable than any other meat (arguably less so due to it's more controlled environment). It's nowhere near the right size/species to infect a human so Laios getting a second-order parasite from it is more down to really, really bad luck (/rule of funny).
If you want a more orange egg for visual variety, duck eggs might be the way you want to go. The freshly stewed vegetables from the Golem gardens is a tried and tested method. Pull them out of the water when done cooking, get better, and substitute a superior protein, and you'll have a great meal. Corned Beef is a particularly choice protein. And if you add grass fed Irish butter? MMMMM I can't say I've had good experiences with crab legs, but they were cheap buffet fare, so.... Also, lobster used to be easy to screw up and considered peasant food. Then superior cooking techniques for the sea roaches proliferated during WWII when cheap mass food was needed. And then Lobsters suffered a massive population dip and because food for the more well off. The Kelpy grilling seems a bit plain and underexplained for people who aren't experienced. Also maybe slightly overcooked. But in principle, grilling that many tasty looking cuts of meat has me hungry. The Undine Stew is quite possibly the second most creative meal in the first half after the living armor. Just... the idea that you take a water spirit and make it the base for your stew to restore mana is just brilliant. The Red Dragon pizza and steak is potentially the most tantalizing for the allure of dragon meat. Like, that is a feast available only for grand conquerors of dungeons or the most elite who can afford to hire said conquerors. The tail also looks nicely fatty, though I'd rather sear that instead of putting it in a soup.
11:35 in thr USA and Europe most people dislike the idea of eating bugs. However people in asia eat bugs as part of their meals on a daily basis. There's even a name for the practice of eating bugs called entomophagy.
respect to the video using the actual monsters as a factor but i would do this based on real life dish equivalent as well That way you can get the real flavor instead of assumption the ingredients like how some people do(example being marcille) , i have eaten most of these in real life. like the treasure bugs can be simillar to kohakutou and chocolate candy coins. Fruit tart is quiche and even the tree root plant is similar to a real life plant. Obviously oyster are Armour and parasite is eel. So besides what monsters and such are to...i recommend if we do more of these rankings, to go flavor profile and dishes similar to it. I like cooking foods from fiction alot, especially from foodwars and cartoons so this show really made me hungry.
Hey, were you using final fantasy 8 music for some of these? Because that overworld theme just hit's right. When you're talking about food on an adventure.
My CZcams recommendations come in two flavors: Dungeon Meshi and Genshin Impact. Hearing the Port Ormos theme during the Red Dragon Full Course Meal crossed my wires in a way I was not expecting, but it was very cool.
there are actually a number of things that the monsters remind me of from a non-japanese perspective. the mandrake kakiage looks like akara…the living armor look like snails before they’re cooked. i wouldn’t be able to eat the tentacle pasta - i’ve had one too many thoughts about it looking like parasitic worms even before i read the manga 😨
11:21 you’re not the only one, when i was younger i used to take the charms of shoelaces and jewelry and just put it in my mouth during class so i could pay attention
About the Golum meal if you create the Golum core it is subserviant to you as such it would actually be easyer to farm then normal as it takes care of itself and would be docile to you as the golem smith
Something I noticed and really appreciate is what different dishes get made depending on who seems to be in charge? Laios seemingly has led two dishes, those being the barley with seafood (basically porridge) and the "fish and chips" style dish from later. And both seem much simpler and homier to him (presumably European) as opposed to Senshi's more complex tastes, etc
16:20 this is a topic I don't typically like to talk about because people don't usually want to understand what it actually means, but I'll explain in short. No, it isn't cannibalism, it can't be considered cannibalism in any way because you have to be the exact same species or race for it to be cannibalism, a Tallman can eat an Elf and it won't be Cannibalism, a Wood Elf can eat a High Elf and it will not be cannibalism but only if both races of Elf originated from different evolution lines. Like Crocodile and Alligator as just an example of two creatures that won't be cannibals for eating each other.
about wanting to eat the shinys rock candy is amazing for that feeling brake the chunks off the stick and play with the pieces like you would a shiny rock then eat it
The treasure bugs are up there for me, especially just the straight fried ones. The way Chilchuck was scarfing them down was incredibly appealing. I think after that I’d go with the dragon meat.
Mm, the music you got in the background during criteria part... I'm shocked I recognized it, whatever mihoyo's doing, the art and music teams did awesome job.
Props to this show for making me wanna eat treasure-looking bugs. Since Chilchuk thinks they taste like fish, I could imagine that they may be very similar to soft-shelled crab. They have a crispy to crunchy exterior, but meaty on the inside. The chewy necklace I imagine would be like mochi or ricecake. The jewels probably taste like some sort of jam, they appear very candy-like.
My list as a picky eater based purely on if I could eat it (sorry for typos im on my phone at 3am, lets go!): -scorpion hotpot: TRY/YES :this one seems promising, the scorpion seems p lobsters and the slime noodles seem like rice noodles so the odds of at least being able to eat that are decent! I will be touching nothing else in the pot. -fruit tart: MAYBE?TRY :probably a no, but if I picked out all the bits and just had the cake-esk part it could be... alright... possibly...? -basalisk: YES : litterally just chicken. -basalisk omelet: YES/CAVEAT : I could prob eat just the egg part, just cook up the egg part and it's prob fine. Like my brain might be mean about the snake egg aspect but it seems enough like egg powering through seems plausible. -kakiage: NO :bat and veg. No shot. And it's fried weird? Nope. -living armour: GOD NO :its fucking osters and shit! Hell! hell! Begone demon! -vegi boil: YES? : I.. could eat the carrots and potatoes I guess? That'd be fine? -stewed cabbage and spicy chicken: KINDA :I can eat the bread at least ;-; -treasure bug snacks: NO :no shot not a chance in your life am I ever gonna be bringing myself to eat bugs, no mater how aestetically mouthwatering they look in jam (which I also can't eat texturally) truly killing me with the sorbet they look so good but I just can't do it rip in pepperoni. -Boiled mimic: YES :lobster. First real meal in a hot minute. -boiled barley: KINDA : Mimics back on the menu boys! And nothing else :/ -parasitic worm: NO :its slimy and gross! -kelpie grilled meat: TRY/YES :I mean, it's meat. There's a chance I don't like it but there's a higher chance I do. Not eating liver tho. -undine stew: TORN :on the one hand Kellie stew seems so, so good. And if it was just that and veg I'd be all over this. But the tentacles.... like I Def will not eat them and depending on the flavor they give the stew I may not eat it either. Very maybe. -tenticle pasta: MAYBE :Pasta may be my one great love but again! Tentacles! Of unknown flavor and texture! I am fear. -frog coutlets: YES :ah bread, the return of my savior! I could maybe also do the frog coutlets so long as it wasn't placed of the red wine tenticles. It's just like chicken right? Right? ;-; -dragon meat: YES :first time I've ever seen something I 100% beleive I'd try in real life no caveats. That is the most succulent red meat I've ever seen. Like it's def tough so idk how long that enjoyment would last, but it's so worth a try. And wrose case there's decent pizza on the right! Part 1: 9ish (pos 11) meals out of 17. So like, a bit over half? I'd survive at least! (the 3 meals made from treasure bugs were counted as 1. The shakey maybe meals or heavy caveats were tallied as 1/2 meals. The extra 2 pos meals were for the tenticles.)
When they ate the gems, it brought me back to like 2013 when I watched that one episode in MLP when Spike would eat gems, and I wanted to eat them too 😞
i would probably eat treasure bugs if i kept them coin side up or couldn’t see any insect parts because they look so tasty but the bug part really puts me off
the parasite is a parable to grilled bbq eel which is very popular in Japan, i think if you tasted one before you'll appreciate that grilled parasite meal more; and similar to eel in real life, there's also parasites resided in eels, so the preparation is important
15:09 Everything… looks nice. I wanna try every food in this anime…😅 I've actually tried eating monsters too in DnD, but my character didn't have cook's utensils proficiency so my DM just ruled it that I cooked it poorly and ended up being sick later on lol. (This was before I even heard of Dungeon Meshi, mind you… a year or two before the anime even got announced…)
to make sense of this tierlist you need a Master's Degree on what the author likes or not, what's trendy at the moment and what the author feels about the trend. I'll rate this tier list F tier
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The sorbet didn't have ghost essence in it, it's just been chilled from coming in contact with the ghosts.
It may or may not have essence of ghost in it.
The party didn't know for sure and neither do you.
@@platinumraven118 I mean, under the same logic neither did the video, which i think is the core of the criticism. I think it would be fair to say the chilling is the important part.
It is holy water to ward off the ghost; absorbing the essence is contradictory to its function and purpose.
@@ijudgeyou9598 Sorbet gets mixed with air, the essence could be trapped in that from the spinning. Not able to reconnect to the ghost because it is trapped in the aura of the holy water. Not to mention the ghosts made enough contact to freeze the liquid itself, not just the jar.
@@platinumraven118But that would mean that a ghost going through you is equivalent to being R worded, it's just not that deep. Passing something through fire will heat it up from the outside in but you'd be wrong to say the fire was inside the thing.
Fish men aren't demi humans like mermaids, they lay eggs and turn into fry as they grow, they just look humanoid. ← I sound like Laois.
they use tools though. so still questionable (plus demihuman is a social concept anyway, like oni aren’t human but they are not demihuman either because people from the east don’t have the term)
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The creation and use of tools isn't an indication of humanity because real animals in the wild (including species of mammals, birds, fishes, insects, cephalopods) have been observed making and using tools to hunt, groom, fight, communicate etc.
Also "demi-human" isn't a social concept in Dungeon Meshi, it's a biological reality !
Demi-humans are cross races between a human race and an animal one and so far all confirmed demi-humans have been mammalian (which isn't the case for Merman / Fishmen).
And Ogres (aka Oni) are biologically humans like Elves and Dwarves are, it's only Tall-Men who don't consider them human (probably due to racism and supremacist ideology).
@@moorhsum9755 i mean, we know that at least on the island demihumans are counted as such if they have a different number of bones from humans, not specifically because of animal traits, its kinda of an arbitrary distinguisher that onis just so happen to not have. what really separates a fishman from a cobolt? a mammal mermaid from orcs? i dont think we have that much information to say whether they have their own languages and cultures and such.
(i think its also pretty much established in-cannon that everyone in the cast has some concerning views on race, so it makes sense for them to not know)
so still pretty iffy to eat
in a world where there are potential sentient animals i would not eat a dolphin even if they May not be People
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If you can't eat sentient animals you should probably be vegan because all vertebrate species are sentient and that represents the majority of what we eat.
If you meant "sapient", then sure, it's probably better to not eat that...but how does that relate to the topic of Fishmen ?
Fishmen did not show proof of sapience. None of the monsters eaten by the group did.
The topic was also never about the ethics of eating sapient animals - the only concern raised in the video is about the possibility that eating Fishmen = Cannibalism which would mean they are related to humans.
We could debate more about whether there are real differences between demi-human races and human races but that won't answer the question of what Fishmen are.
If we come to your answer, which is that "demi-human" is a social construct, it won't suddenly mean Fishmen are also related to humans, it will only makes us question how the previously recognized demi-human races should be categorized.
So let's focus more on why Fishmen can't be related to humans rather than what a demi-human is.
Let's analyze human and demi-human races and then compare them to the Fishmen. We can't only look at what the character say, we have to consider how Ryoko Kui designed each races.
Human races include : Tall Men, Elves, Dwarves, Gnomes, Half-Foot and Ogres / Oni.
They all have the same number of bones, limbs, organs, etc. The functioning of their biology is also very minimally differenciated. They can seemingly reproduce with each other, though there is concern over the fertility of mixed offsprings (however they're so rare and their growth is so unpredictable that it's impossible to verify if that's actually true).
Frankly, we don't have to spend a lot of time here, they're humans, they're all mostly the same with a few tiny differences here and there.
Officially recognized Demi-Humans includes : Orcs, Kobolds, Mermaids and Beast Men. They all share distinctive traits : humanoid bodies with mild biological differences (different number of bones, additional / lesser number of limbs), presence of animal traits (porcine, canine, feline, fish etc), mammalian reproduction and capacity (somewhat) for speech. All except the Mermaids have proven to be sapient.
Fishmen obviously do not fit the requirements to be recognized as a human race (biology is completely different) but they also don't fit with the patterns established by the recognized demi-humans : they aren't mammalian and they don't have capacity for speech (complete lack of vocal cords).
Of course, unless Ryoko Kui says it herself, we won't know a 100% what each races are but all of the evidence (including Laios' words) points towards Fishmen not being humain.
@@moorhsum9755 i think we may be arguing past each other. 1) this was never really about wether something was cannibalism or not?
2)my argument on demihumans IS shaky, but also i dont think the whole limbs and being mammalian thing is ever brought up in cannon, other than laios using it to argue that demihumans a very far removed biologically from humans (which i'm not arguing against, those very much are fish with thumbs)
3) all that i was saying is that its dubious to eat fishmen, like, ethically?
we will probably not agree on this one, cause its kinda a matter of interpretation and personal opinion
i really would rather not get stuck on semantics all day, have a nice :)
Two points regarding the parasitic worm:
- The reason why Laios got the parasite is because he ate it raw, which is the last thing anyone can do with harvested meat. No one touched it until it was actually cooked, which is the best way to eradicate any parasitic larvae that might still be in the meat.
- The taste would probably be like eel, since the cooking method is based on Unagi, which is a dish of grilled eel covered and broiled in tare sauce.
My guy was really stupid in that moment, i hope he learned from that experience 😔
Also he got the parasite that live inside the parasite not the parasite itself. So the parasite(big) is more of an ambushed predators.
Also yes irl parasite do have their own parasite
@@peika8324 thats messed up
@@MegaMegajennifer There's always a smaller fish, it seems
@@TNUPP12 lol right
I wanna eat the gems I wanna eat the gems I wanna eat the gems I wanna-
Fruit gushers wouldn't exist if we didn't all secretely want to eat gems! And I have a pretty bad case of insectophobia so that says something as to how tasty gems look
You must really like gummies.
There are crunchy crystals made from agar jelly👍
@@edwardhisse2687 Kohakutou, you can make them yourself.
SAMEEEE
Finally, someone who gets that the treasure bug snacks were really interesting not repulsive
its like a nice take on Mimic sub-species, and the ecology is nice.
P R O T E I N
HONESTLY!! i used to get those flavored bug snacks as a kid whenever i went camping cause the camp ground stores always had them and the treasure bugs seemed like that but like. shiny
It may be my autism speaking, but anyone who loves to eat lobster and crab while calling the consumption of insects disgusting confuses me. Like… people worldwide eat them. And cook them in ways that are absolutely delicious!
@@belisauriusfish9406 oysters are snails as well
16:55 To be fair, he didn't make a SMALL mistake... He ate it raw!
I want to eat the treasure bugs so incredibly bad it almost hurts
Bro go cook up some shrimp and mantis i heard mantis is tasty and shrimp tastes good
Same. It's so crazy looking I HAVE to try it
Closest thing is chocolate gold coins 😂
Since the jewel bug crown was a hive full of eggs that needed to be scooped out, I think you can actually get the same taste and texture from honeycomb! This explains why the jewel bugs were part of the sorbet making process - jewel bug hives are sweet!
This makes the Jewel Bug Burgers more of a Sloppy Joe, which I think is perfect.
Cant wait to see people making their own versions of these meals! I saw one person make a look-alike of the sorbet with gem candies and it looked soooo mouth-watering.
Where id love to see
link please 🥺
I have to disagree with a lot of your assessments, first of all, mandrake appears to be similar to gobō/edible burdock, which means that the vegetable kakiage would be more akin to diner style hashbrowns with other vegetables mixed in. Secondly, the living armour would be more similar to mussels or oysters than calamari. Thirdly, as some other people have pointed out, the sorbet was just chilled by the ghost and didnt include any ghost essence. Lastly, while I do agree with your assessment on the parasitic worm, I'm surprised you didn't mention how it's supposed to be similar to Japanese grilled eel/kabayaki, since that would make its real world counterpart much more appealing.
This guy probably only eats fries and burgers
@@kneerow3 Ah yes. Burdock and oysters. Famous burger ingredients.
Plus, the issue of them being spirits of humans IS brought up later in the series. It was chilled by them, which means there is potentially ghost in them.
i would argue with the assertion that mimic isn’t filling. visually it resembles hermit crab and crab is straight up mostly protein. that stuff fills you up Fast, three to four crab legs would probably be enough even if you spent a lot of energy, and those mimic legs look Huge
I'm SO glad you addressed how mouthwatering Senshi's bread looked. Every time my friends and I watch this show, we wish it was real. It looks like milk bread, too, so it's probably EXTRA soft and fluffy!
Apparently frog legs do actually taste a lot like chicken. Never had it myself so I can't confirm, but they're fairly common in the swampy bits of the southern US. (have had gator though, which does taste a lot like chicken! Just ever so slightly fishy with the texture of very dark meat chicken)
I've had lots of frog legs. It's like a chicken wing!!! ❤
The texture is much chewier, the taste is yea, mini chicken legs
In Singapore, Frog Leg Porridge is pretty common! You're right to say it tastes a lot like chicken. It's like you've shrunken Chicken Drumlets into mini-sized versions of it. I used to be disgusted by the idea until my dad encouraged me to try it. Much to my surprise, now I just think of it as another version of chicken porridge :>
I love frog legs
Can confirm the chicken-like quality of frog legs. It’s definitely a different texture but the flavor is similar. I’d say they’re more rubbery than chicken, or just chewier? Very tasty though. Loved eating them as a kid.
Dragon steak would probably taste bad, especially considering the way it was killed and how mature it was…thats some really tough, gamey, stress hormone filled meat right there. :/ It may be very nutritious though, and it’s enough meat to feed a whole town for months. It would probably be really good in a pot roast!
Yeah it’d def be best as a stew based meal ingredient!! Lots of slow cooking to tenderise it and whatnot
You sound like you have never eaten a reptile before
@@dartoney you know what, i have had gator, but I didn't even consider the fact it's lizard meat. The red, tough meat on the show is nothing like any gator I've eaten. That being said, maybe dragon is good fried? (as a southener what isnt)
@@steampunk-llama yah that's what I'm thinking! it looks way too tough on the show. and if i remember right they said the flavor was lackluster too, so maybe some heavy seasonings or a marinade--mmm maybe teriyaki dragon steak?
@@cryxtheace3129 Ooo yeah teriyaki would work really well, esp with some ginger/garlic/chilli added in to give it that extra oomph >:3c
I could even see a curry working out too, since the spices used in many of them should help bring out the natural dragon flavour, along with it being an easy bulk meal to help feed multiple people!!
I do have to wonder if perhaps using an adolescent would give it a texture closer to other reptiles? Particularly I can see it being at least adjacent to crocodile or alligator in the right conditions to keep it relatively tender, though I also wouldn’t be surprised if it is just naturally tough and gamey given it’s from a massive land based predator. Much to think about 🤔
11:38 eating riches lmao 5yr old me relates. Choked on a number of earrings.
Glad I'm not the only one who feels like that
The tart was more of a quiche than a pizza.
The parasitic worms look like eel meat are cooked like how the Japanese prepare eel (unagi). A fantasy version of unagi without the bones is worth any danger.
Im pretty certain that parasite was supposed to be some kind of lamprey. Lampreys lack a ribcage and only have a skull and spine. Irl there are parasitic lampreys but they latch onto their hosts from the outside, there isnt any internal lamprey species to my knowledge.
I feel like with the Undine stew with tentacles, the tentacles would have cooked down, creating a whole different flavor profile than if it was eaten raw. Sorta like if you cook garlic, it enhances the flavor of garlic but dies down the bitter taste to it compared to haven eaten it raw.
Its so funny to me that the "Eating monsters is GROSS" vibes are so strong in your final ranking.
i think he would find a fast friend in marcille
"Its like a very thick pizza"
So like a fritata essentially?
oh so that's the name, haven't tried one for a while
I was thinking a quiche or fritatta.
i just looked up fritata. why didnt tim hortons call it that instead of omelet bites?
@@MegaMegajennifer Because, being Canadian they're afraid of anything that isn't English or French.
@@pathfindersavant3988 no we're not
Someone actually made the tart, and if I remember right it came out...not very good.
Turns out Pepper skins don't really work as effective crust.
Maybe some other fruit/vegetable skin?
@@flyingorange2482 potato may work do to starch
Should've said you were a picky eater in the beginning. Its obvious based on what you've rated each dish and you're commentary on what makes a dish good.
Also, the parasitic worm was suppose to be similar to eel. Eel is my favorite meat and taste exactly how the parasite was described, can't believe it was in D tier.
I can imagine the treasure bugs taste a lot like crawdads and the creamy parts would have the texture of lobster roe. They'd probably taste really good steamed or boiled and with some butter.
Speaking from personal experience frog tastes a lot better than chicken and has a very different texture. So if giant frogs tastes like there smaller counterparts I'd say that it's a 10/10.
I felt doxxed when you talked about the gems because you nailed my feeling on it
I've been waiting for this since it was announced! I love dungeon meshi 🎉
Some insight:
1) fruit tart is actually more like a quiche than a pizza
2) mandrake kikiage is extremely similar to indian pakora, which you’re right can be finicky to cook but is amazing done well
3) parasite mirrors eel meat here
The funger reference lmao!
Man, The algorithm has been pushing this anime onto me for a while now, and I’m not sure why?? On all apps basically!
Cause its good (and popular right now)
@@zanthe_
Welp! Guess I’m gonna have to give it a try after all… It took so much work to get it out of my tumblr feed but looks like it’s gonna come right back real soon lol
Dat Scorpion Mushroom Hot Pot looks like Lobster Hot Pot
Myyyyy goodness! Never in my life have I ever wanted to eat a snacky meal this colourful. Just, look at those treasure bugs! I like bugs, and the fact that those ones are actually edible makes me really want to eat them. I’m sooo going for the treasure bug meals including the sorbet (though it very much resembles colourful ice-cream that looks like that a lot of flavours are packed into it, complete with jewellery that, when placed with the sorbet, looks very much like candy in the shape of jewellery). Besides that, I would really eat a feast of kelpie meat which I think it would be better with a side of fresh bread.
This is a really good video on looking at the Dungeon’s meshi and I certainly can’t wait to see part two. I love the anime too!
This anime goes insane
3:55 I’d say the fruit tart seems to resemble more of a quiche, a sort of savoury custard tart. Presumably it’s simply referred to as “fruit tart” because “quiche” doesn’t translate well to Japanese and back.
Bro I was eating my breakfast while watching this yet im still drooling.
Personally imagined the mandrake as being somewhat starchy like a potato, just with a more herbal bitterness to it, so tbh the kakiage gave me the impression of a potato pancake 🤤 IDK what bat tastes like, but the giant bats don't resemble insectivorous bats, but fruit bats. The floor they live on also has an ample amount fruit from carnivorous plants, so I'm guessing it could taste similar to fruit bats irl.
The Treasure Bugsnax, Sorbet, Glazed Parasitic Worm, grilled Kelpie, Tentacle Pasta, Cutlets and the Red Dragon Full Course Meal needs to be in my MOUTH
The scorpion hot pot looks appealing. It is the first dish to start the series with easy to find ingredients. It doesn't much complex like other dish. Just simple yet delicious. It should be in the S tier instead
I mean, the parasite shouldn't be more questionable than any other meat (arguably less so due to it's more controlled environment). It's nowhere near the right size/species to infect a human so Laios getting a second-order parasite from it is more down to really, really bad luck (/rule of funny).
"Mom, what's that guy doing?"
"Stay away from him. He's a shiny rock addict."
If you want a more orange egg for visual variety, duck eggs might be the way you want to go.
The freshly stewed vegetables from the Golem gardens is a tried and tested method. Pull them out of the water when done cooking, get better, and substitute a superior protein, and you'll have a great meal. Corned Beef is a particularly choice protein. And if you add grass fed Irish butter? MMMMM
I can't say I've had good experiences with crab legs, but they were cheap buffet fare, so.... Also, lobster used to be easy to screw up and considered peasant food. Then superior cooking techniques for the sea roaches proliferated during WWII when cheap mass food was needed. And then Lobsters suffered a massive population dip and because food for the more well off.
The Kelpy grilling seems a bit plain and underexplained for people who aren't experienced. Also maybe slightly overcooked. But in principle, grilling that many tasty looking cuts of meat has me hungry.
The Undine Stew is quite possibly the second most creative meal in the first half after the living armor. Just... the idea that you take a water spirit and make it the base for your stew to restore mana is just brilliant.
The Red Dragon pizza and steak is potentially the most tantalizing for the allure of dragon meat. Like, that is a feast available only for grand conquerors of dungeons or the most elite who can afford to hire said conquerors. The tail also looks nicely fatty, though I'd rather sear that instead of putting it in a soup.
11:35 in thr USA and Europe most people dislike the idea of eating bugs. However people in asia eat bugs as part of their meals on a daily basis. There's even a name for the practice of eating bugs called entomophagy.
I aint watched dungeon meshi yet, i will watch this video one day
Welp, looking forward to the day you do lol
I was so thrown off by the genshin bg music during the criteria part of the vid lmaooo
Yes!!!!!! Delicious in dungeon food !!!!! It's all so delectable!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Never thought I'd live to see the day a Nigerian can't handle spice... Love the video man!
respect to the video using the actual monsters as a factor but i would do this based on real life dish equivalent as well
That way you can get the real flavor instead of assumption the ingredients like how some people do(example being marcille)
, i have eaten most of these in real life. like the treasure bugs can be simillar to kohakutou and chocolate candy coins. Fruit tart is quiche and even the tree root plant is similar to a real life plant. Obviously oyster are Armour and parasite is eel. So besides what monsters and such are to...i recommend if we do more of these rankings, to go flavor profile and dishes similar to it. I like cooking foods from fiction alot, especially from foodwars and cartoons so this show really made me hungry.
Hey, were you using final fantasy 8 music for some of these? Because that overworld theme just hit's right. When you're talking about food on an adventure.
My CZcams recommendations come in two flavors: Dungeon Meshi and Genshin Impact. Hearing the Port Ormos theme during the Red Dragon Full Course Meal crossed my wires in a way I was not expecting, but it was very cool.
I gotta say I’m mostly interested with the assorted bug snacks, mostly because I’ve been wanting to try real world insect dishes for some time.
So, you in chat: Who here wants to see an official Delicious in Dungeon cookbook? Besides me, that is.
Yes🥹
there are actually a number of things that the monsters remind me of from a non-japanese perspective. the mandrake kakiage looks like akara…the living armor look like snails before they’re cooked. i wouldn’t be able to eat the tentacle pasta - i’ve had one too many thoughts about it looking like parasitic worms even before i read the manga 😨
11:21 you’re not the only one, when i was younger i used to take the charms of shoelaces and jewelry and just put it in my mouth during class so i could pay attention
About the Golum meal
if you create the Golum core it is subserviant to you
as such it would actually be easyer to farm then normal as it takes care of itself and would be docile to you as the golem smith
I don’t care what it took to make it. I am eating all of this and I’m not stopping till end up like Falin
Something I noticed and really appreciate is what different dishes get made depending on who seems to be in charge? Laios seemingly has led two dishes, those being the barley with seafood (basically porridge) and the "fish and chips" style dish from later. And both seem much simpler and homier to him (presumably European) as opposed to Senshi's more complex tastes, etc
Your problem is that you are afraid when it comes to new food.
No matter what you say, you are D-tier because you are afraid.
I disagree with so many of these
16:20 this is a topic I don't typically like to talk about because people don't usually want to understand what it actually means, but I'll explain in short.
No, it isn't cannibalism, it can't be considered cannibalism in any way because you have to be the exact same species or race for it to be cannibalism, a Tallman can eat an Elf and it won't be Cannibalism, a Wood Elf can eat a High Elf and it will not be cannibalism but only if both races of Elf originated from different evolution lines. Like Crocodile and Alligator as just an example of two creatures that won't be cannibals for eating each other.
"Reminds me of the time someone ate a bat and the whole world got traumatized" I laughed harder than I should have at that.
i imagine the parasite meat tasting like unagi...,, i love unagi so much, great video :3
I miss delicious in dungeon thursdays
Hey!!
Parasites aren’t FULLY off the table, there’s still some parasitic fungi that people do eat irl as a delicacy!
iirc the gem treasure bugs are described as having an 'almost fruity flavor' by the cast, so the sorbet would come out like a fruit sorbet.
about wanting to eat the shinys rock candy is amazing for that feeling brake the chunks off the stick and play with the pieces like you would a shiny rock then eat it
The crown gives me honeycomb vibes. I really want to eat it!
that bread really does look so so good. all the food in this looks insanely good, even the stuff i wouldnt personally eat. (like the living armour)
BREAD! BREAD! BREAD! BREAD! BREAD! BREAD! BREAD! BREAD!
The treasure bugs are up there for me, especially just the straight fried ones. The way Chilchuck was scarfing them down was incredibly appealing.
I think after that I’d go with the dragon meat.
Personally the man eating plant tart is closer to a quiche, being mostly egg and the savoury flavour
I just can't get over the fact that the tentacles look like bananas once peeled.
Mm, the music you got in the background during criteria part... I'm shocked I recognized it, whatever mihoyo's doing, the art and music teams did awesome job.
Props to this show for making me wanna eat treasure-looking bugs.
Since Chilchuk thinks they taste like fish, I could imagine that they may be very similar to soft-shelled crab. They have a crispy to crunchy exterior, but meaty on the inside. The chewy necklace I imagine would be like mochi or ricecake. The jewels probably taste like some sort of jam, they appear very candy-like.
17:33 bro, D tier for that is criminal
can't wait for the human and worg bones rating hope its an A I was drooling when I saw it
XD
My list as a picky eater based purely on if I could eat it (sorry for typos im on my phone at 3am, lets go!):
-scorpion hotpot: TRY/YES :this one seems promising, the scorpion seems p lobsters and the slime noodles seem like rice noodles so the odds of at least being able to eat that are decent! I will be touching nothing else in the pot.
-fruit tart: MAYBE?TRY :probably a no, but if I picked out all the bits and just had the cake-esk part it could be... alright... possibly...?
-basalisk: YES : litterally just chicken.
-basalisk omelet: YES/CAVEAT : I could prob eat just the egg part, just cook up the egg part and it's prob fine. Like my brain might be mean about the snake egg aspect but it seems enough like egg powering through seems plausible.
-kakiage: NO :bat and veg. No shot. And it's fried weird? Nope.
-living armour: GOD NO :its fucking osters and shit! Hell! hell! Begone demon!
-vegi boil: YES? : I.. could eat the carrots and potatoes I guess? That'd be fine?
-stewed cabbage and spicy chicken: KINDA :I can eat the bread at least ;-;
-treasure bug snacks: NO :no shot not a chance in your life am I ever gonna be bringing myself to eat bugs, no mater how aestetically mouthwatering they look in jam (which I also can't eat texturally) truly killing me with the sorbet they look so good but I just can't do it rip in pepperoni.
-Boiled mimic: YES :lobster. First real meal in a hot minute.
-boiled barley: KINDA : Mimics back on the menu boys! And nothing else :/
-parasitic worm: NO :its slimy and gross!
-kelpie grilled meat: TRY/YES :I mean, it's meat. There's a chance I don't like it but there's a higher chance I do. Not eating liver tho.
-undine stew: TORN :on the one hand Kellie stew seems so, so good. And if it was just that and veg I'd be all over this. But the tentacles.... like I Def will not eat them and depending on the flavor they give the stew I may not eat it either. Very maybe.
-tenticle pasta: MAYBE :Pasta may be my one great love but again! Tentacles! Of unknown flavor and texture! I am fear.
-frog coutlets: YES :ah bread, the return of my savior! I could maybe also do the frog coutlets so long as it wasn't placed of the red wine tenticles. It's just like chicken right? Right? ;-;
-dragon meat: YES :first time I've ever seen something I 100% beleive I'd try in real life no caveats. That is the most succulent red meat I've ever seen. Like it's def tough so idk how long that enjoyment would last, but it's so worth a try. And wrose case there's decent pizza on the right!
Part 1: 9ish (pos 11) meals out of 17. So like, a bit over half? I'd survive at least!
(the 3 meals made from treasure bugs were counted as 1. The shakey maybe meals or heavy caveats were tallied as 1/2 meals. The extra 2 pos meals were for the tenticles.)
I REALLY want to try the bug coins. Fried fish-like snacks are amazing
17:02 Watching how they cooked it I imagined the worm to taste more like eels tho lol
When they ate the gems, it brought me back to like 2013 when I watched that one episode in MLP when Spike would eat gems, and I wanted to eat them too 😞
Came (don't be dirty lol) for the food, stayed for Marcille
i would probably eat treasure bugs if i kept them coin side up or couldn’t see any insect parts because they look so tasty but the bug part really puts me off
With both being anthropods, I'd assume the scorpion would taste closer to Crab or Lobster than any scaled fish sort of seafood
Honestly, I don’t like bugs. I’m afraid of it but those treasure bugs moly I’d eat those in a heartbeat, dude.
Personaly i would love to try either the dragon or the parasite most.
the parasite is a parable to grilled bbq eel which is very popular in Japan, i think if you tasted one before you'll appreciate that grilled parasite meal more; and similar to eel in real life, there's also parasites resided in eels, so the preparation is important
Wait, I thought living armor mollusks creates their own iron shells to form the armor?
15:09 Everything… looks nice. I wanna try every food in this anime…😅
I've actually tried eating monsters too in DnD, but my character didn't have cook's utensils proficiency so my DM just ruled it that I cooked it poorly and ended up being sick later on lol. (This was before I even heard of Dungeon Meshi, mind you… a year or two before the anime even got announced…)
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to make sense of this tierlist you need a Master's Degree on what the author likes or not, what's trendy at the moment and what the author feels about the trend.
I'll rate this tier list F tier
Wouldn't the man eating plant fruit tart be more akin to a quiche than a pizza?
I'm fairly certain scorpion (in-universe, at least) would taste like lobster. Lobsters ARE basically giant bugs, after all
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Oh, fun fact about real giant squid: they are full of ammonium, so Dungeon Meshi hit it right on the nose. They *would* taste absolutely disgusting 😔
Fear and hunger x Dungeon meshi might look wierd at first but it honestly makes sense lol
3:45 it's a quiche, would recommend
I thought about it for a little bit, what would a chimera taste like? would it taste different to everyone who tries it? would it even be safe to eat?
i would kill for red dragon pizza. it looks so tasty good lord
Frog is actually quite tasty! Its generally somewhat fish-like but its good when done right
That parasite meat basically is eel meat irl, it soft, meaty and kinda fatty, Japanese grilled eel tastes very yummy
if this bread guy hasnt watched yakitate japan i'll be disappointed, its peak bread anime
fear and hunger mentioned!!!