Lorna Shore Has A Dark, Controversial Side
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THE DARK SIDE OF LORNA SHORE Feat. Will Ramos - A History To The Hellfire
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I might be wrong but I think they dropped off the tour with Chelsea Grin and Carnifex because they are now going on tour with Bring Me The Horizon. Also, I enjoyed the video.
Was absolutely gutted when I saw they were doing the EU tour with BMTH, we opted to see BMTH in their hometown instead but would have been amazing to see Lorna Shore at the same time.
In the end they didnt go on tour with them. Sadly 😢
At least we had ADTR.
But then there was Poorstacy and Static Dress
Early 2020 I saw the album cover of Immortal and i heard the album and I loved it and I didn't even know there were allegations involved I just thought it was a cool deathcore band with a good vocalist. And then I kinda forgot about them until To The Hellfire released and fell even more in love with them, especially since Will Ramos is an incredible front man
Amazing things to come for them for sure
The allegations were proven false and he really should have touched on this crucial detail.
Mordiez B He shared part of his side of the story with a few ex’s, I don’t think that’s the equivalent of every single allegation being PROVEN false.
@@nightwingx0126 ex's came out saying they were false accusations
@@BobRocksGuitar If that’s true then fair play, but don’t see a source for this anywhere on the internet
It's sucks what happened to CJ, but then again, I'm kind of glad because I feel like Will was the missing piece for that band. Love Will
I just notice one think that CJ and another my fav vocalist Lucca Schmerler (Mental Cruelty)
They are both wonderful vocalists, but they are fired for one reason related to sexual assault, I really delved into the very meaning but found out why they were kicked out and thought it might be a label tactic to kick a member out of the band without their consent? Or im freak which didnt slept for 2 days?
THEY BOTH GOT PR0VED INNOCENT
@@alexchepel8842
"to" CJ? The dude has a bad reputation with everyone in the scene for a reason and even if you discount the sexual assault allegations, he's racist and completely unprofessional. Sure it sucks what happened "with" CJ but "to" him? He's not a victim, he's a dickhead at best and a vile scumbag at worst. He's made his own bed.
Lornashore was sick with Tom there's been 3 vocalists and all 3 have been amazing i don't believe there's a missing piece
@@erdtreeheresey4120 Well yeah but this really got them popular and made their songs really prominent. I really didn't know Lorna Shore because Will. They've always been a good band but Will is just such a good front man for them
I've been a metal fan for 25 years now and very much like old school metal. HOWEVER, I think LS are brilliant. There are so may boomers giving them stick which is not deserved
Close minded boomers hate all things core
I think you might like blackened death core sir. I get the 'dislike' for deathcore even though I'll fight tooth and nail for it, but Blackened Death core just sits on a throne that most people don't even know exists.
do you know what an actual boomer is lmfao
BIG OOF by saying Ramos was influenced by Dan Watson of Infant Annihilator, but Ramos was influenced by Infant Annihilators current vocalist Dickie Allen.
Can't forget about Ramos' band A Wake In Providence. They were really good too.
Heavy Metal Cats was my intro to Lorna Shore! The cats were great, but I was like omg who is this band?!?!!??
I didn’t even know that at the time lmao til just now.
To everyone who read the title and assumed it was an interview delving into Wills history/experience with the band. Will Ramos does NOT appear in the video. It's either click bait or shitty wording.
Unfortunately you assumed incorrectly, if it was an interview it would have said quite literally that. No click bait here, just says in the title what it is.
@@BreakdownMediaYT lmao you said feat. Will Ramos, which would lead anybody with a single braincell to assume he's involved with the video somehow. Definitely clickbait my guy
@@BreakdownMediaYT Yea man, i see anything "featuring" someone, i expect that person to make an appearance. Super clickbaity.
@@BreakdownMediaYT the video was good! but they are def right about assuming will actually showed up for the video. when you put feat anyone that means they themselves actually played a role in the video, rather than reporting about them in the video. whether its clickbait is kinda subjective but I would say it isn't because it was a good video but on the other hand its kind of a clickbait title because it does absolutely lead you to believe he was in the video and he actually wasn't.
Even I thought will was going to show somehow but as it turned out hhe actually did not.
@@parkershields8345 yea, "feat." implies an appearance of some kind. I'm with you.
I love to learn about history, especially with how connected everything is. And there was a lot of good information in this. Ninjen Isu, The Hu band and Alien Weaponry would all be good bands to check out, and Nightwish also of course.
Don’t know if I have the balls to do Nightwish with the backlash I’d get 🤣
Dude, Ninjen Itsu was fucking incredible.
Why'd you skip over their album Flesh Coffin? It's a masterpiece.
Flesh coffins my favourite album
For real, man. I didn't even like deathcore then, and I still don't like deathcore that much, but Flesh Coffin was incredible and doesn't get the love it deserves. Everyone's always going on about CJ... What about Tom, the vocalist who's been on more releases than the other two combined? Lol
It’s hands down their best, I even have the logo tattooed
@@jak3y3 same here
@@jak3y3 ay same got the logo on my hand because the album influenced me that much
Just so you are aware, Currently live Lorna Shore is performing a new song i believe the title is Sun Eater. It was amazing.
We have reacted to it! It’s on our channel!
Guys, it's my 1st time editing with a Mac and I messed up 🤣 so apologies for the extra 2 minutes of a black screen at the end!
If you like this sort of content, hit that subscribe button and let me know in the comments which band you want me to make a video on next
Never mind, I kept looking patiently ...
I really enjoyed these two quiet minutes! 😁
Lorna shore has had me in such a trance since them fuckin metal cats lol
Havent watched the video yet but I just want to say I love CJ
Would love to learn more of the history of UNDEROATH
cj did get lied about tbh, those allegations were later found out to be bs
They actually released the Immortal album before CJ was out of the band!
i believe they kicked him out in december and released the album in January
They didn't, they released the statement in december and delayed the album until january, that's when they released the king ov deception music video alongside a huge statement regarding the likeness of CJ appearing in the said video, CJ was out before the album lol
Yeah, dude did not do the greatest reporting.
@@nicolasbellido7207 those are cj vocals tho...
Man nailed that original Euclid pronunciation
Charlie brought me here im not into reaction videos at all but these mini docs are A1 this type of videos should definitely be your bread and butter
Saw them last friday, will is such a beast. Best metal vocalist in the game imo.
Jus seen them the 15th in detroit will is amazing! Got to meet him too!!
Top 10, not the best. Alex and CJ still higher. So is Tom, Phil, I’m gonna say Kenny, and even what’s his name from Thy art
@@shiftynsm1 that' why i said imo, it's my opinion 😅
@@calamity075 sorry bro, didn’t see the last part
@@shiftynsm1 all cool bro 😉
thanks for this vid. I dont listen to deathcore but man did i go down a deep rabbit hole with this. xD.
You NEED to acknowledge all of those allegations on McCreery were proven false.
Sad that a good chunk of people never heard his side of the story. Dude has an hour plus long video disproving all the allegations but his name was still dragged through the mud and had his career tainted.
Everyone deserves a chance to speak
@@lilcarbomb4639 "Dragged Through The Inferno, so to speak. God Damn is Immortal Disfigurement bringing the heat with that new release, tho.
@@BeardedDubstep that song is ass my guy.
How/when were they proved false? I can only fine articles on his statement saying they were false and articles on the allegations? Can you help? Nothing like "women recanted statement against cj" or anything like that at all
I started out the same, wasn’t too big on metal but I ended up listening to Amity Affliction and it just snowballed from there. Absolutely love Lorna Shore now
You got a long way to go kid
@@masterpimpjr9705 the songs in your metal playlist is literally the same stuff I listen to, so not sure what you mean
Regardless of any of that, Will Ramos is still a better lead vocalist than the other two.
hes good but tom did it before him and is same as good as will
This band reminded me of “The Red Shore” I actually have some of their songs on my Dap. However I just learned by searching them up that 2 members including their main vocalist passed in a tragic tour bus accident. Been outta the loop for a while but still listen to them regardless. Sea of treachery, as blood runs black, elysia, Tbdm ect. I was really hoping to hear some new stuff from them.
You have fact wrong here 7:25 , Will was inspired by Dickie Allen (the second vocalist) not Dan Watson
Nah bullshit, Dickie Allen became non-noname after 2016 after The Elysian Grandeval Galèriarch! Will inspired by Dan Watson in 2014 When he leaved IA
Cj proved his innocence those girls jus wanted to get him in trouble to take his money bcuz he's famous
Dude he's a deathcore vocalist. he's not really raking in the money
She made more money than he did lol
What money? 😂
@@MasterIceyy obviously but idk i feel it wasn't that serious of a thing tbh but who knows
@@Jarettisbored which is crazy
Макрири не виноват! Он снял об этом видео. Она его обвинила, потому что он не ответил ей взаимностью. Хватит распространять ложь.
Рад что на наших просторах есть люди шарющие за эту ситуацию)
Yeah I needed this, thanks!
Dude you should do the history of whitechapel or the acacia strain
Good thing CJ is back with a new band and the song is 🔥
You should check ;
Shadows of intent : from the ruin.. we rise
Alex terrible : bravta/babayaga
We butter the bred with butter : der tag an dem die welt unterging
The amazing cover of linkin park crawling by imminence
Within the ruins : enigma/gods amongs men
We came as romans : dark bloom
Very interesting and focused summary. I liked it!
Thank you! I worked hard to put the video together 😀
It really is unfortunate that CJ did all the work to get LS on the map and signed to a major label, just for Will to get all the credit.
Very true, i've heard that cj didn't even get any of the money that immortal made. So sad
Facts
I'm a CJ fan so I hope he'll be fine
Pretty sure will got credit after his LP... Or EP. Whichever. The 3 song thing
The BAND got credit for the album CJ was the vocalist for, which was still out out even though they had fired CJ right before putting it out . Will didn't take any credit. That's like saying every new replacement singer is an ass for inadvertently enjoying any fame the band and previous vocalist had gained. It's inevitable, to a degree . But again, as in my other comment, will was famous after his work on the 3 song release
Hi, will there be a reaction to the DEVILOOF group??
Never heard of them!
@@BreakdownMediaYT Trust me it's worth it
I'm interested to hear about his time in A Wake in Providence. I love that band, and that's how I first ever heard of Will Ramos
Dude being in a band is real work. It's really hard to tread the line of professionalism and friendship and enjoyment
It’s kinda sad that’s there this trend of angry fans girls who think it’s ok to ruining someone’s life based on false allegations. The scenes does nothing about holding people who use false allegations accountable. There’s literally no accountability at all and everyone goes on with there life like nothing happened. But besides that CJ new band is actually alot better in my opinion. Alex is an OG vocalist but the band isn’t kinda meh
Keep making more of this content!!! I’m already 3 videos deep lol and yesss listen to more of LS❤
Love to hear that thank you 😁 just literally dropped a new vid on the channel!
Update: if anyone doesn’t know, CJ is doing well and I’m really glad it turned out those accusations were false and I only hope that the person who could come up with such a disgusting false accusation making light and fools of actual victims actually got prison time for potentially being able to ruin someone’s life, and no matter what how you feel about CJ two things are very clear, He is Talented and was done dirty and if you don’t believe just look it up cause it’s now all public information. Don’t shoot the messenger/updater, I’m not here to argue lol.
Edit: Great video my man, keep it up🤘🏾
Thanks for the kind words 🙏
Yah but the issue with filing false charges is it's going to be on that dudes background for the rest of his life. You can drop the charges but it will be on the guys background forever. I personally feel if you file false charges that you should go to jail for it but that's just my 2 cents.
@@justinbowen1183 true true and agreed, someone who seeks to ruin another persons reputation, lively hood and status should be jailed, especially for making a mockery of actual victims
@@thyweebhub if he abused her and she filed real charges then that's 1 thing but to file false charges will ruin his life. Good luck finding a job anywhere with domestic violence and grooming ok your background. Iv worked retail for 11 years and I know for fact that Walmart, Kroger, and target wont take you they wont go anywhere after finding all that they wont even ask if the charges were real.
Yeah exactly dude, it was all BS just to ruin his life it wasn't cool. CJ did put out a video explaining it, most people nowadays just jump to conclusions and assume the worse instead of not hearing the other persons side. But yeah I'm happy that CJ can finally move forward now, and not worry about the trolls and bullies of the cruel internet.
2:00 lol that’s exactly how I found them and have been a fan since
Cj is actually innocent. Kind of dumb how they kicked him out of the band for nothing.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Atleast the allegations were never acted upon and came down to the women being angry ex-girlfriends. I think it's important to stay with the idea of innocent until proven guilty. But don't forget how that ended up for LostProphets.
It was that video from 2:00 that got me into Lorna 🤘🏻
I love Will Ramos but for me CJ will always be the greatest Blackened Deathcore vocalist
Man's born with extra 2 layers of false chords, only Alex Terrible can match that
@@kaiserbrutus730 my man Alex isnt Blackened bruh
@@alexr6913 Yeah but he's the only guy that can match CJ's screams in my opinion. Cos the others, though brutal, their screams are cleaner than CJ's. CJ's scream literally sounds like piles of flesh flopping around rather than a human actually screaming.
@@kaiserbrutus730 Alex is still better tbh so
I feel like it's not a case of who does the heavier or the low gutturals or the high screams and screeches, but the actual vocal range which makes CJ such a master of death metal vocals in the current scene of the industry. And tbh, since we're talking about deathcore it's beyond the point to actually say one is better at the gutturals or the other is better at fry screams since at that level they all are required to perform at the very highest standards which I think they all do by their own rights.
It has come to my attention that Tom and CJ, two exceptionally amiable individuals, were subjected to discourteous behavior. Which makes me think the others in Lorna shore were the problem.
How did you forget about A Wake in Providence
shum 12 min video
Nice vid... but whats up with the 2 minutes of black at the end?
Sorry I’m learning to edit with Mac 😅 looks like I left on 2 minutes of emptiness haha
Weird how he didnt mention a wake in providence
killswitch engage
Anything in particular? I (Conal) love Killswitch Engage!
@@BreakdownMediaYT i personally would love to hear about the early Jessie to howard jones, to him coming back in the band. i am also thinking for a song "Signal Fire" which has both singers
U forgot to mention wills other band he did vocals for A Wake In Providence, other than that solid research
CJ is innocent until proven guilty.
He IS innocent
Hes just innocent. But you 100% right
@@ssfghjgghhgrdcbbnmjgddxcggg he released a 30 minute video on it. And him beimg a huge douchebag iant evidence. Also allegations dont make someone guilty.
Innocent! Sing it with me! IN-O-CENT, Blegh!
whitechapel is so goood tho
look into cold as life
I don’t even listen too lorna because of what happened with cj and I knew from the beginning it was all just a bs trap for money and whatever else lorna lost one of the absolutely most deadliest and guttering singers of this era period will is an amazing human being and I don’t hate him I just hate what the “band” did too cj he never deserved any of that
Damn, that’s viral.
Too bad CJ didn't even commit any of these allegations, LS did an Amber Heard on him :(
there wasn't any proof aside from a few allegations by an ex girlfriend of his, so we can't say for sure whether it happened or not
@@aelrecs015 I'm pretty sure he did a video explaining everything and with proof
Yes and no. I think the allegations were indeed crazy exes lying (mostly), but I also think he’s a very toxic person and is 100% guilty of all manners of psychological abuse even without it being alleged.
It is VERY obvious that he has strong sociopathic/narcissistic tendencies.
He oozes pure manipulation and inauthenticity and pathological insecurity. I could see through him literally seconds into watching his video. (Mind you, I had never seen him before and also wasn’t even aware of what was alleged. Totally new to this band and that was the first thing I watched when looking up what happened)
For what was rumoured at the time, the allegations were the scapegoat of lorna to get rid of CJ, many people on the genre said that he is very bad for working and he believes himself as a rockstar, for the moment just rumours, nothing really confirmed
@@nicolasbellido7207 Yeah, I could tell he was a complete narcissist literally seconds into watching his video. It was my first impression, which speaks to how bad it probably gets behind closed doors. That rumor is definitely true.
Cj made a statement on CZcams wich shows cj is innocent
I thought it was Dickie Allen that Will looked up too
You forgot to mention Will did some stuff for A Wake in Providence. Also, CJ has made a response to the allegations and shown screen shots of his conversations. This is what confuses me about your video, you title the video "Lorna Shore Has A Dark, Controversial Side." But then fail the mention the full details of that "dark" period. It's not like you're going to get cancelled for stating the facts. Also, if you are going to make an informational video, then why not state the undeniable truth rather than, "the presenter's personal perspective." You didn't state any opinions as far as I'm aware and you failed to go into full detail about the allegations toward CJ. Idk I guess I'm confused by your entire description.
7:40 ben duerr, phil bozeman
What happened to CJ was bullshit. Immortal is their best work still but Will is also a great vocalist.
Do the vocal history of Dance Gavin Dance
Added to the list. Any particular reason?
@@BreakdownMediaYT theres been three different vocalist, two of which who had some drama related issues, one in particular who was hooked on drugs
Yesssssss
Man that Clickbait is just plain egregious
Might have subbed if not for the blatant Clickbait BS
Bangers m8 bangers
ALLEGED victim.
victim? my guy you clearly didn't do enough research.
CJ IS INNOCENT
Looks like CJ was completely innocent. Imagine that, a woman chasing clout off her ex's success.
Liked the video :)
Appreciate you!
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to be fair he proved his innocence
sucks he got kicked so fast
7:17 "That sound" you are most likely talking about is from the song "Unholy Gravebirth", which has the vocalist Dickie Allen, not Dan Watson. Also it's not a difficult sound to make at all.
Incorrect, they were exploding after the immortal singles came out. Then everyone jumped on the bandwagon and tried to cancel Cj. They didn’t rebrand, the sound comes from Adam and Austin as the primary writers, styles been the same just slowly moved to a more symphonic diminished black metal sound. Always been there and will be even if all the members leave but Adam.
yeah even a bit of research would show that the band had issues with CJ far before immortal came out
are you a death core band
I am deathcore
And not related with music at al...
L. S. S. M.
How about Weezer
PLEASE do Killswitch Engage. Did you do Killswitch already?
Do the band waste.
Listen to Immortal disfigurement its CJs new band. Shits dope
this day and age alot of women fake things. So CJ is innocent until proven guilty.
The allegations were proven false later
Pathetic how u made it look like the allegations against CJ were right
Can’t please everyone
@@BreakdownMediaYT imo its not a matter of pleasing only some people. sexual abuse allegations are really serious and not stating that he had prove against all that damages his reputation further bec for quite a few people it means he was guilty if u dont say in ur vid he proved the allegations to be wrong. which he doesnt deserve if he is innocent. he is a musician so the public perception plays a role in his whole career. so if u make such a vid u should have that in mind imo
@@BreakdownMediaYT that's a POS statement. A innocent man's life is forever destroyed n its a inconvenience to even say the charges were disproven.
Рамос дно. Сиджей отец.
Still prefer cj way more 😀👌
Why did you make it like the allegations agains cj were true?? they were proven false, even one of the girls said that she was lying
Do you have the evidence of this?
@@BreakdownMediaYT nope, i saw her post on facebook. Don't have the page but i think you can find it easly tbh
I think CJ was a better vocalist in Lorna Shore.. Just my own opinion....
He was good but man there going to blow up now with will fronting them! Watch they will be headliners next year!
Wanna be CJ lol. CJ will always fit better. 🤷♀️
This dude tries too hard.
Interesting take
He tries too hard to be a better vocalist? CJ was good but Will is a better vocalist.
@@brandichelse0502 not at all, will is good but cj is incomparable with his range and resonators work
@@lops_stylelops5974 I love both of them but Will Ramos is on the same level as Travis Ryan. His consistency is on point. I'd like to see CJ do a cover of To the Hellfire!!
@@brandichelse0502 Why does he need to do a cover of someone else's song? lol Cj can do everything will can do anyway. The only thing Will does better are highs and Cj does better lows.