Crimewatch UK May 1993
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- Sue Cook and Nick Ross present. Cases include the murder of Doris Shelley in Martlesham, Suffolk, a robbery in which two police officer were shot in Poole, Dorset, a robbery in Exeter and the murder of Richard Miles in Newtown, Stroud, Gloucestershire.
The Richard Miles one is a good reconstruction, another scary man - not quite as bad as the Michael Williams one.
How the hell can you look at an oap and attack her it's beyond me. The horrible bastard of a man.
Delroy Grant raped old women - and men - for years before the police caught him.
Worst thing the BBC did ending this programme it was the only thing worth watching on that channell
NICK DUFFY it was when they changed the format it seemed to lose viewers I still watched it out of loyalty but didn’t really enjoy it. I’m loving these old episodes x
I agree! I didn’t like the new format either but still watched it!
In Australia we have that fucking reality crap ,cant stand the shit
It was dying ever since it stopped being a proper crime information programme like this and became a crime-terminant programme or whatever you call it. If they do bring back it, it needs to completely be like it was back when it started.
It was time . I was a loyal fan but gave up on it about 2011 ish
Why are people starting to give these videos a thumbs down.? If you don't like them don't watch them 🙄
Dean Mobley it gave them nightmares
Lol
Well said dean
Why does that matter?
zahria why does what matter?
Best programme ever I don’t know why they stopped it I’m sure it helped the police catch criminals.
Sure the stats were something like 1 in 20 solved directly by CW, plus the rise of the internet and cctv following our every move lessened the need for the programme
Neither the killing of Mrs Shelley nor the murder of Richard Miles have been solved to this day. None of the murders in in March 93 have been solved. So full marks to CW for trying, but it rarely helped solve murders.
I feel so sad for Richard’s mum, you can tell how broken hearted she is over his murder 🥺
Chick ..how ya doing me darling. I used to bang out the theme tune and the bom bom , bom bom.. l would just start marching bruv up and down on the spot... And l knew about clothes chick ..Fancy going for a jar with a trendy bloke?
On a serious binge of these shows. Thanks redcard!
I hope Redcard74 is okay, he hasn't uploaded anything for about a year.
RIP Dorris Shelly Xx 😢😢
Definitely. Poor old lady. I wonder if she was able to tell police anything as she was alive for some days after she was attacked.
@@mrkipling2201 Possibly? Her cats were so cute I just hope her friend adopted them after Doris died beyond heartbreaking Xx
@@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt agreed 😢😢
15:55 to 16:02 Sierra overload! A regular Sierra, a Cosworth, an Estate and a Sierra police car. Crimewatch bingo full house! 😄
Lol good point. Guess there was very little choice back them.
This was my GCSE year...I remember that everyone and their dog had a Sierra. (Except us...my Dad got a Granada as a company car!) But they were literally everywhere and you started to distinguish between the types of Sierra (cosworth, Sapphire etc...)
@@davewhitehead8601 the Sierra was a good car it was surprisingly quick and coppers also drove them in most forces
A lot of company cars were sierras also.
Sierra’s were very common in the early 90s
Head bags lol! If you didn't have one of those in the day you wasn't in the cool gang at school.
I used to live in Exeter. The Ernest Jones is still there. The high street hasn’t changed much.
41:56 never knew Michael Jackson helped out with Crimewatch
Lol 😂
Heee heee
😂
😂😂😂😂😂
IM DYING 💀
Almost every car in Crimewatch from the episodes 1984 until this one is a Ford Sierra!
Sierra ended in 93, the detroit seirra had already ended I think
And Vauxhall Cavaliers
The Unigate reconstruction features the late Joanne Kenny as the lady in the office, she played Jane Bishop in Grange Hill back in the 1980's. The BBC made great programmes back in the days of Crimewatch, sadly it doesn't anymore.
She also appeared in doctor who story The Curse of Fenric
yep spot on..
I am impressed with the guys who chased the thief!
The robber looks like John Major.
Lol the guy in the balaclava casually waving.
The beginning where you see the 2 blokes running reminds me of the beginning of trainspotting.
What kind of person would attack an elderly lady
Some of these old retro cars, god damn they are beauts, Sierra cosworth lovely
Love Sierra
Do you have any more Crimewatch U.K. episodes?
I am after May 1996.
Their age estimations always seemed way off. There were people who could well have been in their mid 30's, yet they were saying they were in their 20's.
Fkin miss the 90s the asteroid should of hit the earth after 1999.
I always get hungry when the narrators say "ate one ate one ate one".....
Why does Sue ask the cop the same question twice about why he is possibly linking the two attacks on elderly women? Did she forget she had asked it 30 seconds earlier?
@Jane Hibberd It is quite funny watching her & Nick stumbling over words & saying the wrong words-must have been hectic having the producer in your ear, a lot of background noise with the police taking phone calls near you etc.
Was live not recorded so not easy.
Valentine Scoggins is such a brilliant name
James O’Brien is a pretty good name too but I suspect you’re widely known as “Farty Breath”.
Gang, have you given any thought to what we'll do when these run out? I mean seriously?
doesn't bear thinking about lol :)
Write to BBC and ask them to bring back the show with Nick & Sue!! - if not them then their direct descendants! 😂
Start from the beginning again? 🤔
🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ 😔😞
@@strongcoffee7 i might do that, watch them all again in order
The photo fit of the getaway driver looks like an angelic choirboy!
crime is an everyday occurrence and to end these kind of programmes is disappointing as they should be aired at all times to remind the public to be vigilant at all times..especially when these evil people walk with us or among us..
I remember watching this when I was little. The girl out jogging, then seeing the weirdo with long hair in the Richard Miles case made me jump. 😬
Me too! Right out of my skin!!!!!
Those Head sports bags were enormous. You could fit 10 books, 5 folders an entire PE kit and a cricket bat in them.
I had one when I was a kid in the early 90s. We all did
Why is there no Stephen Lawrence episode from this year ?
Racism
I find it strange that Richard Miles' boss would go out looking for him because he was late coming back for lunch. I mean he went home at 1:30PM His mother found him in the back yard at 3:30PM. So just how long did his boss leave it before he hunted for him. The boss saying he went there to look for him covers himself in case his car was spotted there at or near the scene.
Makes you wonder if any illegal insurance work was going on there, scamming insurance companies for larger payouts. Or even working on cars in hit & run crimes. Richard could have been struggling with his conscience with something like that & made a criminal ring take action. 3 older connected men were arrested although 2 of them were released. The third was released for lack of evidence later. Either that or he had a secret lover. It usually Money, sex or drugs.
Yes and there was that man that was having an arguement the walked out where the neighbour saw the back of them before that so could be insurance scam from work a bit yeah bit on hot the boss is looking for him at that time
The Woman in the robbery on the dairy in Poole looks like Joan Kenny who was in Grange hill, who I believe has now passed on, RIP.
You can see why she didn't get much work. RIP think she died of drink
@@alex123case that’s a very crass thing to say about her especially as she has passed on 🤫
Did the coppers horse win the grand national ?
THANKS REDCARD 74 KEEP UPLOADS COMONG IM CRIMEWATCHS UK BIGGEST FAN
38:58 - that's The Undertaker from WWE, if he was a smackhead
Detective Superintendent John Bennett was also in charge of the West case a year later.
Stewart Spaull I spotted that as well
OMG That is Robert Napper at 1:30, look at the mouth and eyebrows. How many people did he actually kill?!
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Frank Havertz u think? Slightly out of character. The hat, the location, the victim (elderly), the lack of sexual assault. He was know for raping and killing mothers, usually with children. I don’t think it was him
It is. There’s another photo fit of him wearing that hat in another crime
There’s a documentary by Professor David Wilson saying it was likely Robert Napper amongst a string of other murders.
He's only been convicted of 3 murders and a string of rapes on Plumstead Common but he has to have been responsible for more. He was schizophrenic so he wouldn't have just stopped but as is already been pointed out, his victims were all young women with children, even one of the murder victims was a kid, so I don't see him killing older women, especially as his motive was always sexual.
What the girl out jogging encountered at about 38:50 gave me a bit of a fright - almost on a par with Highgate Woods Man from the Michael Williams case!
REALLY scary! 😱
yeah, a little freaky , though not quite in the same bracket as the bearded weirdo at Highgate Woods - possibly because we had been forewarned on this occasion by the great Redcard
Brendan Meskell hahah is Michael Williams case the guy that stood there in a daze while the dog barked? I only started watching old crimewatches recently (my earliest memories of crimewatch were mid 90s onwards) so it’s funny to see the comments from all the people scarred from that reconstruction hahah
If he had a stain on his elbow that had to be the killer
Scared the s**t out of me!!! 😬😱
38:54 WHOAAAAA!!!! CRIMEWATCH WERE TRYING TO BEAT "LAMPPOST MAN" FOR SHOCK VALUE THERE, WEREN'T THEY???????
The E-fit in the Shelley murder is a dead ringer of John Cannan...
He wouldn't be interested in old ladies.
you are on fire tonight thanks so much great q videos
Piss off you slag.
@@nathaniliescu4597 Fuck off
@@nathaniliescu4597 Fuck off
@@nathaniliescu4597 Fuck off
@@nathaniliescu4597 You really are a dispiciple piece of shit.
Another stolen Cosworth, was in 1994 I bought mine. At the time it was the most stolen car in the UK, cost of them were cheap because of this but the insurance was eye watering.
One of the quirky things I like checking with these reconstructions is what the result of the local football team was on the weekend of the crime.
For instance, with the Unigate robbery, that day Bournemouth drew 0-0 with Chester City in the old Division 3. How times change....
I checked to see that the first ever episode of Gladiators aired five days before the October 15th 1992 episode of Crimewatch!!!!!! ;*D
Robert Nunn Robert...you need to get out more!
STEJTHEGREATEST You will go on my first whistle
@@tinaxtonycompletely agree! Farty Breath Robert needs to sort his life out.
Richard Miles in Newtown, Stroud, Gloucestershire. was his murder solved ?
no. according to another comment
@@nathaniliescu4597 No one likes you so go away you sad little man.
@@littlemissbumblebee5537 .....we meet again so soon. How unfortunate.
@@littlemissbumblebee5537 ignore him he will soon be put back in the happy home
Some of their efits back in the day were ridiculous! Like anyone would recognise any faces.
Pussy.
You're beautiful x
@@nathaniliescu4597 Clown
@@Gfresh844 yeah no idea what
I was on about or why I typed that.
Curly grey hair, clearly not curly!
Sadly, that murder in Martlesham is still unsolved. I used to live around there and it's a very well known cold case along with a few others from Ipswich.
I think she would have mentioned having visitors or if anyone was bothering her.
I said this in another video but after watching this it has confirmed my opinion: if you’re a police officer and you hear there’s a armed robbery in progress call for back up!
Plus a ford cosworth was rare. £25k for 1 back then and probably now too lol
Try 50 grand my friend now, remember Jimmy nail driving one in Spender early 90s
Just shows how much I know lol
Call for back-up and then WAIT FOR BACK-UP!!!!!!! DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE ALEX MURPHY DID!!!!!!!
rs84 I bought a Cosworth for 12 grand in 1992 from Jimmy Nail. It was always getting pinched thieves just drilled through the central locking on the door to drive it off and steal the wheels. A twat of a car
😂😂😂
Before I watch, I’ve had this episode recommended by YT for the last few weeks but haven’t watched cos I’m watching them in order. Now that I’m finally ready to watch, I hope the really hunky guy in the thumbnail pic hasn’t robbed or murdered anyone! ❤️
Ford Sierras great cars, had one, only wish it was a cosworth!!
Love sierra. Ford in Detroit build their own version
Poor woman 😢
I read that unigate diary was robbed again in 2001 and closed shortly afterwards!
DSI John Bennett was the lead detective 1 year later in 1994 on serial killer Fred West case.
Dear God! Imagine looking up & having that face staring at you! Bloody hell. That bit gave me the freaks! And then they went & showed him again! 😰
Poor Richard, awful 😞 I bet Rusty really missed him so much 😢
His poor mum, she looked absolutely broken. Heartbreaking, just heartbreaking 😢💔
I was at the Kesgrave Hall boarding school in early 1993 (Kesgrave is the next village west, inside the Ipswich by-pass) when Doris Shelley was murdered and I'm amazed that this is the first I've heard of it. Enough psychos there over the years, both pupils and staff. Some of the staff used to drink in the Black Tiles pub in Martlesham and one guy got sacked for taking a bunch of fifth formers for a pint or two or ten there. This was horrific and it's scary that whoever did this could still be out there.
28:41 *REAL* cringe!
And I don't often say that.
A very rare instance of that happening on Crimewatch.
Narcissus bags? Lex Luger?
I'm trying to find the episode where I saw on the photo call wall someone I was working with, they were arrested a few days later for driving away without paying for petrol.
Sue Cook 'he always enjoyed a smoke by the canal...' jokes
Evening all
That damn mask in the robbery where the officers got shot.... !!..🤤🤤🤤🤤😲 I'm about to have nightmares 👹💀☠👻👻👽
A little late but don't have nightmares do sleep well!
28:59 Wow, that was an incredibly nice robber. I thought the citizen was done for.
Valentine Scoggings
Dairies! I remember those-became extinct around the turn of the century.
Hi that dairy is still open but is now ironically a car dealership
Milk
Around the churn of the century
Still exist.
how snobby that fella commenting on a young lad in Sierra 🙄
Too judgemental. I'd say he was jealous. Can you believe a Ford Sierra cost £25,000!!
@@lionelstar8500 yes he didn't exactly appear to be royalty himself.
Increasingly "snobby" seems to just mean noticing things.
@Joe Anderson
There doesn't seem to be anything "snobby" about it.
The [actor's] age, dress, demeanor, lack of ""appreciation"" for the car, all make it seem as if he doesn't "fit" with it.
Spending £25,000 (in 1993) on a car - finance or no - isn't likely to encourage a "taken for granted" approach about such an automobile.
The driver, would be expected to reciprocate with the great amount of money spent to purchase the car, by doing whatever may be necessary, to look after it.
Let's take a more extreme example: eating McDonald's in a Maybach 62 whilst dressed in a JD Sports tracksuit/hoodie.
You spend many, many tens of thousands of your hard earned pounds, on the best quality of materials, clearly being aware of what it is you need to do, in order to generate such wealth - very, very astutely.
You don't just *_physically_* work hard - you also pay very careful attention to _how_ you ensure you earn such money.
You discover what it is that helps others *around* you to earn money for you, and what destroys that possibility.
Dress, what kind of music you listen to, how you communicate, what sort of food and drink you consume...they all contribute to how well both you, and your staff reciprocate with each other in business.
The example I give about the "Maybach McDonald's", epitomises the very opposite of it, and this in turn, would (or _should)_ ring alarm bells to anyone with even the tiniest amount of discernment regarding why such a character profile wouldn't "fit" with such a car.
I hope this clarifies the matter.
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 you what ?
My god is that a Ferrari 308
They would never bring this show back as it was it would uncover to many government cock ups lol 😂😂
Sierratastic!
11:16 more fugly 80s trainers lingering on in the 90s
when you see armed crims using weapons, I always feel angry that the average police cannot carry weapons.
Has Jacqui ever done an episode of CW without stumbling over her words?
Lol have you done an episode of CW ever? 😉
Hatchet-Job is even worse.
Where is Francis Joseph Tierny???
Still in Liverpool, maybe straightened up his act. Someone with identical name also in Liverpool is listed as resigned as company director / property developer in 2004. beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/878vtqbQIvoI_05fec0VGptkrjc/appointments
Mark Bartlett LOL thanks!
39:00 I just looked up at the screen at probably the worst moment possible! Got a little bit of a fright, being honest 😆
That actually scared me too
I think the girl that ran into him on the path was very brave
What the hell is that girl running alone in that field.
@@topbanana4128Braver than me! I jumped out of my skin!
Redcard 74.... the michael williams one ????
december 1988 i think
The wide-eyed, none-speaking, long-haired suspect from the Richard Miles reconstruction in this video was almost as scary as lamppost man!!!!!! If lamppost man was a real person, and not made up, I wish he'd post something online about that incident to set the record straight, and put my mind at ease!!!
@@Corbytown75 November.
Good stuff pal, good stuff.
The Crimewatch Reconstruction School of Acting (Woodentops Branch).
Doris Shelley and richard miles both unsolved to this day
True, sadly.
www.eadt.co.uk/news/suffolk-police-drop-interesting-lead-in-doris-shelley-case-1-5986856
@@janettemohan5056 It would be wonderful if all these cold cases from the eighties and nineties could be solved. We would all love to know who and why they did it.
Joann Kenny at 16.30from Grange Hill
Colin stagg and the railway killers were on nearly every week FFS
Claudia Lawrence kept appearing on the older programmes. They got stuck on her.
not guilty ... but am certainly mesmerised by the antics of those involved
What a name .. valentine scoggins.
Poole My Hometown
Why did they move Bournemouth into Dorset when it was originally in Hampshire?
@@ajs41 It usually for votes.
At the time of the 1974 local government re-organisation, it was considered desirable that the whole of the Poole/Bournemouth urban area should be part of the same county. Bournemouth, therefore, became part of the non-metropolitan county of Dorset on 1 April 1974." Here's a question for you; why ask on CZcams something you could find the answer to within seconds on Google?😅
That act was appalling it moved my hometown Slough into Berkshire from Bucks after nearly 1000 years. Why?
The kidnapping must have been easily solved once they knew it was tuna men. They stick out like a sore thumb, especially in Bedfordshire.
26:27 in: "Do you recognise these markings?" It says "Ninja".
15:26 Jelly. ;*(
Why the hell did he thumb up the milk man guy. Its too over friendly
Stop thief, chase that guy with the gun.
Hi that ‘hero’ seemed pretty irresponsible to me. Should have just let him go.
@@stephenroche4897 Yeah, I mean if he wants to chase a guy with a gun then fine-but telling two other guys to chase them when they have no idea he is packing heat is bloody ridiculous.
40:00 later made famous by the West case
tuff cops
not a mention of trauma. our generation would’ve wanted 3-6 months off for sleep deprivation
They don’t make them like that anymore
30:30. Frank Lampard with ginger hair. 🤣
I was thinking timo werner mixed with frank lampard
The 2 police that got shot at, proper milking it, yea yea ill be off work for around 3 or 4 months lol
At 22:36, that Videofit looks just like a 12 year old kid!! Lol.....damn, he started young, ay?? Lol....Sorry, I know that crime was no laughing matter, but sometimes the world is so ugly, you've gotta laugh to keep from crying. It amazes me at what people will do sometimes, to be able to make a few bucks. Pathetic.
Big frankie tierney there kidda
wheres stephen lawrence murder?
Ha, for all the outpouring over the Bulger case the Lawrence case received little publicity outside of the South East until Nelson Mandela got involved-to the media it was just another crime in a bad area involving a black guy-who the media painted as a criminal /up to no good when in reality he was just an ordinary guy. The cops working the case were corrupt-taking bungs from one of the suspects dad's & many of them were racist. Living in Kent I can remember it being a big story on my regional BBC & ITV news shows, but didn't make any real impact on the national broadcasts until Mandela spoke on it during a UK visit-same thing happened with Damilola Taylor in 2000 initially.
Hi when did Mandela speak on it? I’m from west London and I was 8 at the time and I remember it being a huge deal but like u said it might have been after Mandela spoke on it
@@TheOne-fe8wk They met Mandela a fortnight after the murder, for that time the media outside of London/South East were not remotely interested & even the media in those areas weren't that interested due to the area it happened in & the race of the victim.
Hi well good that Mandela got involved because it has become a historic crime which put a spotlight on Racism in the Uk and since then there has been more of a stigma on racism. Now the Uk express their racism through brexit lol
@@TheOne-fe8wk Ridiculous, grow up and stop watching mainstream media.
the bbc just cuts cuts cuts ,,less and less u get on the bbc ,,but still got 2 pay
They paid Jonathan Ross six million pounds for three years, for a chat show.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 And how much to Gary Lineker?
Finally I get the first comment on one of these videos!
Yeah, and now you are at the bottom!
Red Card have you Got CrImewatCh UK EP'S wIth NiCKy RoSS On?
How stupid that British "Police" aren't armed.
The difference between being a _service_ and a *force*